Pitch Problems

[tHeArAb]

The greens on golf courses used to have worm casts on them until the greenkeepers decided to get rid of the worms.
This resulted in the greens suffering from thatch with golf clubs having to thousands of pounds every year needle tinning and hollow tinning the greens to help with the drainage of the greens.

Solid tining golf greens is a process that has happened for a long time, and will continue to happen, regardless of worm activity. Worm specific pesticides have been banned for years. Worms are everywhere, including golf greens. Greenkeepers now use what is called a 'switch' to remove casts every morning.

[Returnofrros]

Spoke to the guy who did undersoil heating today.

Blitz the undersoil heating was his reply.

[Dodbroon]

I enclose an article from the Dundee Football Club website dated 17th May 2023 which states that the pitch is being relaid. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/work-underway-on-new-pitch/
It does not state that the pitch is being reseeded.
It would take about a year for a football pitch to be reseeded and the grass to grow before it was fit for a football match to be held on it without wrecking the pitch.

Last close season Dens was reseeded not returfed. There are articles online stating that it is possible with the right care, fertilisation, cutting and maintenance to play on a newly seeded pitch after 4 to 6 weeks. This is extreme but 6 to 8 weeks is common practice. 8 to 10 weeks for best results. It's a football pitch not a golf green. Even on a golf course I would expect different growing periods to produce decent fairways as opposed to greens. It's difficult for me to agree with a couple of Arabs on our site especially the way I was treated on theirs but there's no getting away from facts. Like a lot of your posts, though, you dont let the facts get in the way of a good argument🤔.

[tHeArAb]

Last close season Dens was reseeded not returfed. There are articles online stating that it is possible with the right care, fertilisation, cutting and maintenance to play on a newly seeded pitch after 4 to 6 weeks. This is extreme but 6 to 8 weeks is common practice. 8 to 10 weeks for best results. It's a football pitch not a golf green. Even on a golf course I would expect different growing periods to produce decent fairways as opposed to greens. It's difficult for me to agree with a couple of Arabs on our site especially the way I was treated on theirs but there's no getting away from facts. Like a lot of your posts, though, you dont let the facts get in the way of a good argument🤔.

Spot on mate.

Also, at no point in that article does it say the pitch is being 'relaid'.

[islaydarkblue]

Spoke to the guy who did undersoil heating today.

Blitz the undersoil heating was his reply.

Is it possible that the gas fired undersoil heating pipes which are filled with water are now leaking. This coupled with the lack of maintenance of the land drains underneath the Dens Park pitch has caused the playing surface to become waterlogged every time there is heavy rain.

[islaydarkblue]

Solid tining golf greens is a process that has happened for a long time, and will continue to happen, regardless of worm activity. Worm specific pesticides have been banned for years. Worms are everywhere, including golf greens. Greenkeepers now use what is called a 'switch' to remove casts every morning.

Using a ‘switch’ to remove worm casts every morning is nothing new.
When I joined Downfield Golf Club in 1966 I remember the green keepers switching the greens every morning to get rid of the worm casts.
In the 1980’s the green keepers used to cut the greens every morning using a sit on mover which was quicker and less tiring.
I do not know if this is still done as I have not been a member of Downfield Golf Club since 2005.

[BCram]

After the conclusion of the 22/23 season the playing surface at the Kilmac Stadium was dug up and a new pitch is currently being installed

Direct quote from the information posted by the club.

[tHeArAb]

Using a ‘switch’ to remove worm casts every morning is nothing new.
When I joined Downfield Golf Club in 1966 I remember the green keepers switching the greens every morning to get rid of the worm casts.
In the 1980’s the green keepers used to cut the greens every morning using a sit on mover which was quicker and less tiring.
I do not know if this is still done as I have not been a member of Downfield Golf Club since 2005.

Correct, and going back to your previous post, "greens on golf courses used to have worm casts on them until the greenkeepers decided to get rid of the worms"....switching was the process until pesticides were introduced. Pesticides have now been banned and the switch is now being used again.

[tHeArAb]

After the conclusion of the 22/23 season the playing surface at the Kilmac Stadium was dug up and a new pitch is currently being installed

Direct quote from the information posted by the club.

Yeah, it's a terribly misleading statement tbh.

[ROMA84]

Is it possible that the gas fired undersoil heating pipes which are filled with water are now leaking. This coupled with the lack of maintenance of the land drains underneath the Dens Park pitch has caused the playing surface to become waterlogged every time there is heavy rain.

Undersoil heating pipes are very sturdy and the only joints should be at each end of main supply and return pipes unless any pipes have had to be repaired due to puncture by machinery or hand tools.