STAND BY OUR MANAGER

[matlosmokie1990]

Not posted on here for a while but always have a wee read when work allows

Not seen a league game this season due to international work commitments however alway looking for the score week in week out and am as big a club fan as anybody.

Reading through recent posts its hard to read the critisism Mr Sheerin is taking here for a bad half a season. Think back to the crap we were a custom to watching in years and managers gone by and this guy took a job where we had been relegated had no players and built a team who won the league in fantastic style hammering the Montrose tinks to do so and then the following season being runners up to a good Cowdenbeith side who couldent beat us over 4 fixtures.
Then a mid table finish last year with the latter stages of a domestic cup and also the draw at parkhead and very unlucky to loose 1 0 in the replay. all in i think it is fair to say mr sheerin has been a great sucess at the club and deserves another season no matter which division we play next

[broathrbest]

Totally agree some fans have very short memories pre sheerin it was dire win loose or draw , so lets get behind team and less negativity and crap hurled from the terraces , happy new year to all lichties

[AFC1320]

Great post matlo, any "supporter" shouting for Paul Sheerin's head does not have a clue imo.
The time to reflect on the season is at the end of it and I am convinced PS/SP after getting a few new signings will get us further up the league.

I have not agreed with all his signings as I never thought we had a big enough pool at the start of the season or enough height in our team but after what PS/SP has done for our club they deserve a chance to get us back on track and also something which is sadly lacking in football a bit of LOYALTY.

Support the Red Lichties and Happy New Year.

[timlichtie]

You only have to look at recent managerial changes in the SPFL to see that it's a big gamble. PS deserves our support to get things going again.

[Mr_Refhater]

Have to disagree with the above comments guys. I've been to every single game this season, home and away, and there has been very little to remain positive about. In light of poor result followed by poor result, not to mention the sad state of performance levels. Especially from key players! I've serious misgivings as to whether he can turn things around? The signs in recent weeks have not been encouraging. Time and again we have crumbled in the face of adversity. I'm seriously concerned he has run out of ideas and anticipates, in desperation, vast improvement via transfer window signings?

It's not that I want him to lose his job. It's just that I'm bewildered as to why he hasn't. He has a considerable mountain ahead of him to climb, and I still despite everything hope he conquers it!

[matlosmokie1990]

I just cant see personaly why he should be removed even if we are relegated we are never going to chase promotion every year we will always be an up and down club due to lack of support home and away which therefor means less funds than your Ayr uniteds Queen of the souths who have a massive average support compared to the lichties. We dont like unloyal players who jump ship to other clubs never mind other Angus clubs which then brngs us to a couple turn coat managers through the years ( Mr Weir) we have a loyal man who really want Arbroath to do well and do well for himself and his team so lets get behind that no matter what the outcome is at the end of the season !!!!1 SMOKIES AND WINE all the best today lads

[housecaptain]

Fellow Lichties I do not know how to highlight quotes from previous postings but as one who has criticised P.S. I suppose I qualify as being considered as dis-loyal.
I have attended Gayfield since 1950 left Arbroath in 1965,worked in Glasgow and Edinburgh and never
waivered in my support of my home town team.Freedom of speech is something I believe is called democracy.
However I plead guilty as accused.
Due to my alcohol content I will not be at Methil on Thursday.As I have said before the club is greater than any individual.

[Mr_Refhater]

we will always be an up and down club due to lack of support home and away

Personally I don't think we should be a "down" club! In comparison to the other Angus clubs our home and away attendances have been rather impressive, in my personal opinion.

Both Brechin and Forfar have been in this division longer than us since their respective promotion/relegation. Yet, at this rate we'll be back in the bottom tier and they most likely won't. We shouldn't be a "down" club. We should be better than your East Fifes and Airdires. They - East Fife and Airdrie - are seriously struggling to put together competitive performances. Yet, we are stuck in this mire because of seriously appalling performances of our own. There is only one person to answer for this in my opinion: Paul Sheerin. The bottom line is that it comes down to the manager for poor form. As 'housecaptain' says: the club is greater than any individual.

[ectolichtie]

Am not sure "Fergie" could get a win with this squad, the manager deserves to get through the transfer window and see if he can save this season, if not, then at the end of the season a decision may need to be made

[Mr_Refhater]

the manager deserves to get through the transfer window and see if he can save this season, if not, then at the end of the season a decision may need to be made

Not sure he "deserves" that ectolichtie. Considerable damage as already been done this campaign. However, I understand that now we've reached this crucial stage - the January transfer window - he must be given the chance to turn it around. Therefore this window is of monumental importance to the rest of our season.

If we do go down he should lose his job in my opinion. It would be time for a change, as he was given his chance and failed.

[FIFELICHTIE]

If Fergie couldn't get a win with this squad then therein lies the problem. If the squad isn't good enough then there is only one man to blame.

Many of Sheerins signings have been very poor. Yes, there have been some successes notably wee Josh but how many players have wee signed only for them to spend most of their time sitting in the stand ?

I certainly won't forget the league winning team and the quality of football played. Undoubtedly, the best I have seen in over thirty years of supporting the Lichties. However, the past couple of seasons have been a very different story. Last season was inconsistent at best. Yes some good results and performances such as the Celtic games but generally fairly average. This season has just been dire !

If there were any signs of improvement then I would probably be in favour of giving Paul more time. Unfortunately, it's the opposite and we are on a very steep decline and descent to the bottom league. Think it's time to say thanks for the memorie

[ectolichtie]

Am off, appears the "lynch mob" is out

[Mr_Refhater]

Well said FIFELICHTIE!

[Mr_Refhater]

[quote="ectolichtie" is out[/quote]

Not at all ectolichtie. Just very hard to remain positive really!

[ectolichtie]

Nah the "lynch mob" and been sniping since the summer, if the manager walks, a successor? The 1st one to mention Colin Cameron should be banned from this forum

[Mr_Refhater]

[quote="ectolichtie" and been sniping since the summer[/quote]

Fair enough comment ectolichtie. Certainly no me. His position should never have been in question at the start of the campaign, even within the first few months. Every manager should be given adequate time to make amends.

[FIFELICHTIE]

Ecto if your lynch mob comment was aimed at me then you are very wrong. I actually seldom post on here because the merest hint of criticism of Sheerin constructive or not is met with not a true fan, disloyal and other such nonsense.

People's opinions will differ but that doesn't make eiither more or less valid. Everyone has their own thoughts and people should be able to express them without being ridiculed etc. Isn't that the whole point of a forum ?

At the end of the day everyone posting on here should want what's best for the club. They just might not agree on how to achieve it.


P.s. Thanks Mr Refhater.

[ClashCityRocker]

Still 17 games to be played - thats 51 points.

We are only 5 points behind Brechin and we have still to play them twice ( starting next week ).

Based on East Fife's performance today, they will soon get dragged into the relegation zone.

Brechin, Forfar and East Fife are all just points away from Arbroath.

We need to win our next home games against Brechin and Stenhousemuir and stop losing goals.

A few good, decent signings in January and we can stop this bad run of results.

[AFC1320]

Well said C.C.R.,

As you said 51 points to play for and it is up to Mr Sheerin to go out and buy 4/5 correct players to get us out the position we are in, he knows he is under pressure but as I said before the AFC Board and us fans surely owe him a bit of loyalty and his objective is (after the board give him the funds)to keep us in this division at the seasons end, if he fails to do this then yes that is the time to ask serious questions.

In Sheerin we trust.

[Arbroath1]

Boy o Boy, busy busy forum regarding our MANAGER. Been on holiday over festive period just back and first game will be the Derby vs Brechin. Have been keeping track of the results and what i have noticed is we are getting beat (yes) but the defeats are always by the odd goal etc. As PS has said we maybe just need our luck to change, what i will say is Scott M not the answer for me, too many mistakes this season as i have stated in previous comments on this forum. Agree with AFC1320 Regarding a lightweight squad, we are definitely missing 4 or 5 seasoned pros not youngsters however if funds not available and guys from west coast etc not willing to travel up to angus what can Sheerin do. Trying not to repeat mysef but i did state after the Montrose cup game and later on in the season against the likes of Ayr United where we were blown away, i believe we are punching above our weight in this division with the squad we had. Losing Brian Kerr and Ricky Little were maybe bigger blows than we