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MoreThan50Years
02-01-2014, 10:14 AM
Things are no longer looking good for us.

After the run of consecutive wins came to an end on Boxing Day, and now the unbeaten run came to an end yesterday, we have the daunting prospect of two consecutive drubbings to follow. Firstly Chelsea will be far too strong for us to live with, no matter which team they turn out, and then Leicester will run up a hat full against us as they have on the last two occasions.

We need to strengthen the team at left back where Craig Forsyth is not the answer, centre half if we can’t extend the loan of Michael Keane (David Moyes has indicated that he is going to recall loanees) and provide cover at Centre Forward where Chris Martin is on 4 yellow cards.

What is equally worrying is the injury to Craig Bryson, and the decline in form of Jamie Ward and even more so that of Will Hughes. Ward can no longer take a corner or free kick, he doesn’t seem to be able make runs and set up chances from them, and gives the impression that he’s only playing for

RockApeRam
02-01-2014, 11:13 AM
I cannot believe how negative this post is! We have lost ONE game! By a team that basically fouled bit and kicked their way to three points, and I might say allowed to do so by the referee!

Yes Chelsea are expected to win, but they will let us play of that there is no doubt, so I for one am hopeful the Rams will make a good account of themselves!

There is no reason whatsoever why Derby cannot get a result at any club in the championship, it's no fluke we are fourth, Derby are a decent side!

Your pessimism may well be more relevant in 6 weeks time as our run of fixtures between now and then will no doubt shape the remainder of the season!

Fester, burrnley, Blackburn, QPR all to come in that period!

Cheer up we could be mid table obscurity;D

tomsdubs
02-01-2014, 11:29 AM
We lost one game. Chelsea will be too strong for us? Well who would have ****ing thought that, thanks for your awesome insight.

sheeeeeeeeeep
02-01-2014, 11:31 AM
So when we get a run of 7 straight wins and 8 wins and a draw in 9 games we are not allowed to be optimistic, but as soon as we lose one game the bubble has burst and we are in trouble?

Oh and Keane has signed till the end of the season today.

Edit: Keane extended only till end of January, but we are negotiating a fee with spurs over Dawkins permanent transfer.

Ozderby23
02-01-2014, 11:37 AM
You have to be trying to wind someone up - one loss and the end of the world is nigh. Trying to think positive but in such a negative post all I can say is you can't really be a Derby supporter.

Rapid
02-01-2014, 11:51 AM
[quote="MoreThan50Years"]Things are no longer looking good for us.

After the run of consecutive wins came to an end on Boxing Day, and now the unbeaten run came to an end yesterday, we have the daunting prospect of two consecutive drubbings to follow. Firstly Chelsea will be far too strong for us to live with, no matter which team they turn out, and then Leicester will run up a hat full against us as they have on the last two occasions.

We need to strengthen the team at left back where Craig Forsyth is not the answer, centre half if we can’t extend the loan of Michael Keane (David Moyes has indicated that he is going to recall loanees) and provide cover at Centre Forward where Chris Martin is on 4 yellow cards.

What is equally worrying is the injury to Craig Bryson, and the decline in form of Jamie Ward and even more so that of Will Hughes. Ward can no longer take a corner or free kick, he doesn’t seem to be able make runs and set up chances from them

Southstandup
02-01-2014, 12:28 PM
We have lost one game in a long while! Get a grip.

Been a long time since posts like this and lets hope they end soon we deserved a draw. Rub our selfes down and move on now.

I think we have been given very generous fixtures over the last few weeks the next few weeks well see what we are really made of. Hopefully we pick up a few points :).

AngryRam
02-01-2014, 12:36 PM
Jan is/was always going to be a tough month for us.. No surprises there.
There will always be ups and downs over a season so I am not slashing my wrists yet.. We need to remember what the outlook was under Clough and I was seriously on the 'At Risk' register then..

Said it before, if we finish anywhere in the play off zone, I will be happy. At least I go to games and come away half happy now. Are we a top two team??? No bleedin way..
>:(

Rattea
02-01-2014, 01:10 PM
[quote="MoreThan50Years"]Things are no longer looking good for us.

After the run of consecutive wins came to an end on Boxing Day, and now the unbeaten run came to an end yesterday, we have the daunting prospect of two consecutive drubbings to follow. Firstly Chelsea will be far too strong for us to live with, no matter which team they turn out, and then Leicester will run up a hat full against us as they have on the last two occasions.

We need to strengthen the team at left back where Craig Forsyth is not the answer, centre half if we can’t extend the loan of Michael Keane (David Moyes has indicated that he is going to recall loanees) and provide cover at Centre Forward where Chris Martin is on 4 yellow cards.

What is equally worrying is the injury to Craig Bryson, and the decline in form of Jamie Ward and even more so that of Will Hughes. Ward can no longer take a corner or free kick, he doesn’t seem to be able make runs and set up chances from them

sheeeeeeeeeep
02-01-2014, 01:29 PM
[quote="Rattea"]Things are no longer looking good for us.

After the run of consecutive wins came to an end on Boxing Day, and now the unbeaten run came to an end yesterday, we have the daunting prospect of two consecutive drubbings to follow. Firstly Chelsea will be far too strong for us to live with, no matter which team they turn out, and then Leicester will run up a hat full against us as they have on the last two occasions.

We need to strengthen the team at left back where Craig Forsyth is not the answer, centre half if we can’t extend the loan of Michael Keane (David Moyes has indicated that he is going to recall loanees) and provide cover at Centre Forward where Chris Martin is on 4 yellow cards.

What is equally worrying is the injury to Craig Bryson, and the decline in form of Jamie Ward and even more so that of Will Hughes. Ward can no longer take a corner or free kick, he doesn’t seem to be

roger_ramjet
02-01-2014, 03:06 PM
My New Year's Resolution has been to ignore Ratposts so I will not rise to the bait, unless it's Warfarin. I urge everyone to do the same and see who holds out the longest.

So... you are quite right Ratty.

swaledale
02-01-2014, 03:17 PM
I will second that!

Back to topic - not long ago the excuse from our then managers lips would ahve been what do you expect against an ex prem team with parachute payments - so it was refreshing to hear McClaren's honest assessment after the match.

Anyone who really thought we were invincible and that form wouldn't drop at sometime was in cloud cuckoo land. The current coaching team have done wonders with the current squad plus the shrewd acquisition of a couple of quality loans.

Whilst there has been some hype about Hughes, it was experienced knowlegeable people in football who were praising his quality not just Derby fans, but give the guy a break he is young, has been ill and has played a lot of football every player even Messi and Rooney have poor form!!!

southernram22
02-01-2014, 04:28 PM
we are all entitled to our view but I would much rather lose one game be fourth have wisdom/keane/bamford in our shirts than sit mid table looking over our shoulders and trying to bring someone we have never heard of in on loan.and if we win half our second half games will be in play offs

WhatsGoinOn
02-01-2014, 06:28 PM
As each game has passed, me and the old work buddies have been saying things like, we should get a point in this match, we might be lucky to scrape a win here, we will defo lose this match.

Each time we kept winning, picking up points none of us expected.

What we have done is bought ourselves a little cushion!

There is no way on this earth we will make automatic promotion this year, not with teams like Leicester, QPR and dare I say it, Forest about.

We have very tough months in January and Feb to come, I can only see a point here and maybe 3 points against Yeovil and Bournemouth.

As long as come the end of Feb we are still in the top 6, we should be in a position to push for a defo top 6 place.

McLaren excites me no end, we have almost secured all of our loan signings and it is only 2nd Jan, as well as signing Bamford.

If McLaren can then bring in one or two more gems, which I expect, we could be in for a cracking second half of the season.

At the beginning of this season the t

ramspride
02-01-2014, 08:02 PM
Light the blue touch paper and stand back!!!!!

You have hit on a number of issues that some on here will not have questioned.

1. Performances have been great because we are invincible and not because we have been playing less able opposition. That is it and can not be questioned. we will even thump cChelsea by 10 they will have you believe.

2. The current management can do no wrong. Nothing the do or say is wrong even if it results in the loss of points or is clear to a blind man.

3. The holy grail Will Hughes is the best footballer known to man. Everything he does is sublime and Pele, Messi and co just sit at home and wonder if they could ever aspire to such heights. To say otherwise is heresy and you will be either burnt at the stake or censored and called every under the sun for saying otherwise!

""I do wonder if some people actually watch the games?""

But simply I dont know if you can say the bubble has burst as was there ever really one. the next few games I think

swaledale
02-01-2014, 10:43 PM
I don't think many on here do!!

beano2
03-01-2014, 01:49 PM
Too harsh to mention bubbles bursting. More of a disappointing setback. We were going to lose at some point and this may help us to refocus for Chelsea.

Rattea
03-01-2014, 02:02 PM
[quote="ramspride"]Light the blue touch paper and stand back!!!!!

You have hit on a number of issues that some on here will not have questioned.

1. Performances have been great because we are invincible and not because we have been playing less able opposition. That is it and can not be questioned. we will even thump cChelsea by 10 they will have you believe.

2. The current management can do no wrong. Nothing the do or say is wrong even if it results in the loss of points or is clear to a blind man.

3. The holy grail Will Hughes is the best footballer known to man. Everything he does is sublime and Pele, Messi and co just sit at home and wonder if they could ever aspire to such heights. To say otherwise is heresy and you will be either burnt at the stake or censored and called every under the sun for saying otherwise!

""I do wonder if some people actually watch the games?""

But simply I dont know if you can say the bubble has burst as was the

Rapid
03-01-2014, 04:23 PM
[quote="Rattea"]Light the blue touch paper and stand back!!!!!

You have hit on a number of issues that some on here will not have questioned.

1. Performances have been great because we are invincible and not because we have been playing less able opposition. That is it and can not be questioned. we will even thump cChelsea by 10 they will have you believe.

2. The current management can do no wrong. Nothing the do or say is wrong even if it results in the loss of points or is clear to a blind man.

3. The holy grail Will Hughes is the best footballer known to man. Everything he does is sublime and Pele, Messi and co just sit at home and wonder if they could ever aspire to such heights. To say otherwise is heresy and you will be either burnt at the stake or censored and called every under the sun for saying otherwise!

""I do wonder if some people actually watch the games?""

But simply I dont know if

triz
03-01-2014, 04:42 PM
he really does have zero self awareness doesn't he

AngryRam
03-01-2014, 04:59 PM
This thread has gone right off topic.. :blue:
If we are resorting to pettiness get BStand on here and I can join in.. >:)

Apart from the title, the OP has some valid points.. Were we as good as our form/results suggested? No.. We had a good run of winnable games and took advantage, sometimes by luck.

We now have a run of very difficult games and I always had Wigan in there.. We could quite easily go 4 or 5 without a win.

We need to start to put 90 mins of football together before we are considered automatic promotion contenders.. We still have long periods in games where we are not just on the back foot but really rocking. Let's be honest we were lucky to get out of Huddersfield with a point from being in a VERY strong position.

It is all still work in progress.. Lets see how we cope with a set back. I was looking forward to Chelsea on Sunday but now I fear another loss there and then Fester, we could be 3 losses on the trot.

Not panicking though. Will Hughes is better than that

triz
03-01-2014, 06:40 PM
Every good run comes to an end, now we get to see how good this team really is. If we bounce back in our next league game that'd be a huge positive and top 6 would seem pretty a lot more likely.If we can keep a bit of consistency the skies the limit because we haven't had that in about 6 years

nickyd63
03-01-2014, 06:55 PM
[quote="Rattea"]Things are no longer looking good for us.

After the run of consecutive wins came to an end on Boxing Day, and now the unbeaten run came to an end yesterday, we have the daunting prospect of two consecutive drubbings to follow. Firstly Chelsea will be far too strong for us to live with, no matter which team they turn out, and then Leicester will run up a hat full against us as they have on the last two occasions.

We need to strengthen the team at left back where Craig Forsyth is not the answer, centre half if we can’t extend the loan of Michael Keane (David Moyes has indicated that he is going to recall loanees) and provide cover at Centre Forward where Chris Martin is on 4 yellow cards.

What is equally worrying is the injury to Craig Bryson, and the decline in form of Jamie Ward and even more so that of Will Hughes. Ward can no longer take a corner or free kick, he doesn’t seem to be

ramspride
03-01-2014, 07:28 PM
[quote="Rattea"]Light the blue touch paper and stand back!!!!!

You have hit on a number of issues that some on here will not have questioned.

1. Performances have been great because we are invincible and not because we have been playing less able opposition. That is it and can not be questioned. we will even thump cChelsea by 10 they will have you believe.

2. The current management can do no wrong. Nothing the do or say is wrong even if it results in the loss of points or is clear to a blind man.

3. The holy grail Will Hughes is the best footballer known to man. Everything he does is sublime and Pele, Messi and co just sit at home and wonder if they could ever aspire to such heights. To say otherwise is heresy and you will be either burnt at the stake or censored and called every under the sun for saying otherwise!

""I do wonder if some people actually watch the games?""

But simply I dont know if

Greasley
03-01-2014, 08:49 PM
I find it amusing that, apparently, we've been fortunate, in winning games, whereas when other teams do it, nothing's mentioned.

Huddersfield away, QPR only drew 1-1 there, Burnley lost 2-1, with fester only beating them 2-1 at fester, but, hey-ho, we were lucky!!

Barnsley away, QPR beat them by 2 goals, fester, Burnley & us beat them by a goal, but, we were lucky?

The thing with this league is you need to win, wether it's playing beautiful or ugly!!

I don't think any run of games can be classed as winnable, if so, how could Sheff Wed beat fester, Donny turn over QPR?

AngryRam
03-01-2014, 09:31 PM
I find it amusing that, apparently, we've been fortunate, in winning games, whereas when other teams do it, nothing's mentioned.

Huddersfield away, QPR only drew 1-1 there, Burnley lost 2-1, with fester only beating them 2-1 at fester, but, hey-ho, we were lucky!!

Barnsley away, QPR beat them by 2 goals, fester, Burnley & us beat them by a goal, but, we were lucky?

The thing with this league is you need to win, wether it's playing beautiful or ugly!!

I don't think any run of games can be classed as winnable, if so, how could Sheff Wed beat fester, Donny turn over QPR?

So we wernt lucky holding on against Huddersfield?
What's other teams results got to do with it?

Dont follow you here mate.
>:(