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appac
06-06-2014, 05:26 PM
Watching the D Day tributes and it has struck me what a dignified and respectful bunch the remaining veterans really are, it does make me think though what they must think 70 years on when they look at the state of our once proud country, immigration is rife kids getting stabbed in the streets, kids with no respect for themselves let alone anyone else. they must think why did so many fall for what we have today, a government that has no respect for the born and bred people of this country, yet give everything to the free loading benefit scrounging vagrants from other country's, the veterans are from an age where they cared and where proud of their country this is why so many went to war and never returned, long may they be remembered and respected, OUR country will never be like they knew it back then,

baggieal
06-06-2014, 06:20 PM
Watching the D Day tributes and it has struck me what a dignified and respectful bunch the remaining veterans really are, it does make me think though what they must think 70 years on when they look at the state of our once proud country, immigration is rife kids getting stabbed in the streets, kids with no respect for themselves let alone anyone else. they must think why did so many fall for what we have today, a government that has no respect for the born and bred people of this country, yet give everything to the free loading benefit scrounging vagrants from other country's, the veterans are from an age where they cared and where proud of their country this is why so many went to war and never returned, long may they be remembered and respected, OUR country will never be like they knew it back then,

Could not agree more! Well said!! Immigration should be controlled by a points system like the USA. YES to skilled people which the

Withers
06-06-2014, 07:17 PM
I can`t add too much more. Agree with everything that has been said and I know from talking to people that more and more are thinking along the same lines. Governments, past and present, have all talked the talked but done very little. Yes, there is room for compassion but not at the expense of our people.

bongosdad
07-06-2014, 08:56 AM
The county wouldn't run without immigrants. I wonder what our overseas posters think on the issue as there immigrants too. This also creates a stronger gene pool in the UK.

TrianonDave
07-06-2014, 09:26 AM
Very political and I will keep my personal view to myself on immigration but I often wonder what would happen if another world war did happen? just who would give their lives up for this country?

Anyway, we who do share these lands owe the brave men and women of all religions colours and creeds who fought for the good of this land and peace against a wicked man in Hitler!

I find it hard to hear some of the stories of the landings and the sacrifice given by young men from many shores all for the cause, I will have great pleasure watching all the old films over this weekend.

We can never thank these people enough!:heart:

ozfan
07-06-2014, 11:36 AM
Come on England grew fat on plundered booty for hundred's of years. You know the piper must be paid. ;D

D-day. Wow. I couldn't fathom being in that first wave up the beach or what life may have been like had it failed.

Nushworth
07-06-2014, 12:51 PM
D-day and the storming of the beaches of Normandy is indeed beyond comprehension in terms of it's brutality, bloodshed and the sheer bravery of the men involved. I simply could not imagine putting myself in a position where i know it is probable that i will be killed or injured. Incredible.

On the immigration point I have to go with Bongo. So many companies rely on them simply because they cant the Brits to do the job. I think you'll find there are more British benefit scroungers than there are from the EU. Blaming immigrants for the ills if the country us akin to Hitler blaming the jews for the ills of Germany...and we're back the D-day. I think its fair to say a peaceful Europe working in partnership economically, socially and politically is actually exactly what the men of d-day gave up their lives for.

baggieal
07-06-2014, 03:12 PM
D-day and the storming of the beaches of Normandy is indeed beyond comprehension in terms of it's brutality, bloodshed and the sheer bravery of the men involved. I simply could not imagine putting myself in a position where i know it is probable that i will be killed or injured. Incredible.

On the immigration point I have to go with Bongo. So many companies rely on them simply because they cant the Brits to do the job. I think you'll find there are more British benefit scroungers than there are from the EU. Blaming immigrants for the ills if the country us akin to Hitler blaming the jews for the ills of Germany...and we're back the D-day. I think its fair to say a peaceful Europe working in partnership economically, socially and politically is actually exactly what the men of d-day gave up their lives for.

So go with the USA system - you need a job to enter, then if you are not working, you go home. Immigrants should earn the ri

dazzyo-villa
07-06-2014, 09:58 PM
Good post to an extent appac, agree with some but also agree with nush that we've got enough benefit scrounging lazy scum bags of our own.. Jeez I see it when ever I pick my lad up from school and I only live in a village.

Green_Villan
08-06-2014, 12:03 AM
immigration/emmigration? Same thing. Shouldn't be an issue, "home culture" of wherever you are should be observed and respected, apart from that:
If you ***** us with a pin, don’t we bleed? If you tickle us, don’t we laugh? If you poison us, don’t we die? And if you treat us badly, won’t we try to get revenge?



In fact maybe we should qoute Shakespeare to Randy... UTV

Green_Villan
08-06-2014, 12:05 AM
Why is ***** starred?

stateside
08-06-2014, 02:54 AM
D-day and the storming of the beaches of Normandy is indeed beyond comprehension in terms of it's brutality, bloodshed and the sheer bravery of the men involved. I simply could not imagine putting myself in a position where i know it is probable that i will be killed or injured. Incredible.

On the immigration point I have to go with Bongo. So many companies rely on them simply because they cant the Brits to do the job. I think you'll find there are more British benefit scroungers than there are from the EU. Blaming immigrants for the ills if the country us akin to Hitler blaming the jews for the ills of Germany...and we're back the D-day. I think its fair to say a peaceful Europe working in partnership economically, socially and politically is actually exactly what the men of d-day gave up their lives for.

So go with the USA system - you need a job to enter, then if you are not worki

stateside
08-06-2014, 02:55 AM
Why is ***** starred?

Because it means the same as ****

appac
08-06-2014, 01:27 PM
Immigrants who work and contribute to the system I have no issues with at all, it's the likes of the somarlians who come over her have 5,6 kids ect and have no intention of supporting them via the working system, why should they when the powers that be give it them for free, this country will in years to come regret the open border policy that's happening now as the English people born and bred will be in the minority, England is now the dumping ground for the crap of the world because they now have more rights than we will ever be afforded again, and get priority in benefits,housing, and free medical treatment, England a Muslim state sounds daft now but will it in 20 years time?

MissWinnie
09-06-2014, 01:19 PM
I guess the fact that we are all able to freely debate the issue of immigration and criticise the government means that the service men's sacrifices were not entirely in vain. As Oz said, the consequences of the mission failing are unimaginable ...

My own disappointment is the way in which that generation were/are treated as elderly citizens - left to freeze to death in winter as they can't afford the fuel bills, denied certain life improving medical treatments as they are deemed too old etc. Once essential to the future of this country - now deemed expendable. :blue:

A great aunt of mine was a nurse who went out there in the aftermath of D Day to care for the injured soldiers. I remember asking her about it when I was a child. All I got were light hearted quips, which were soon followed by a haunted look in her eyes. I never asked her again ...