Club in crisis?

[GHO]

Loans against the stadium soon up for repayment.

One new face (injured goalkeeper)

Fall in season tickets

No home shirts for sale (complaints of poor quality of those sold)

No shorts for the team (never mind for sale)

No away kit

Self-imposed transfer embargo?

Well run club?

[Rotherhamowl10]

At least you've stopped saying 'we' I suppose.

Club in crisis about to have new owners...

As for the kit manufacturers - the club don't make the kits petal ;)

[GHO]

Club in crisis about to have new owners...

Would you put your house on it?






As for the kit manufacturers - the club don't make the kits petal ;)

Surely dis-satisfied customers will return to the point of sale.

[SallyKate]

And the sun is shining - people are smiling - yet the prophet of doom and gloom still sees the dark side. Welcome back Katch - Bless.

[redgreggie]

life goes on...

we had Megson
things looked promising under him for a while
then he was discarded

then we got Jones
and things went into orbit
and we pipped our local rivals for promotion
then things went sour
and Jones was discarded

Gray was given the job
soon got to grips with things
without making massive personnel changes he turned us into a decent team
what kind of season will he have this time round?
no-one knows

before all this the club was in utter turmoil
most of which was caused by throwing massive amounts of money at things

Mr Mandaric came in and tried putting us on a sound financial footing.
to achieve this he had to keep a tight reign on spending
this wouldn't endear him to the fans that clamour for better players at the club
it would serve as a form of 'derision' to fans of the other local clubs who just want to ridicule...usually to deflect their ire away from the pittiful position their own club is in

so Mr Mandarics' stewardship of our club has been adm***ble
we

[redgreggie]

as Supertramp once said...Crisis, what Crisis.
















ray...in Batley.

[Rotherhamowl10]

Club in crisis about to have new owners...

Would you put your house on it?






As for the kit manufacturers - the club don't make the kits petal ;)

Surely dis-satisfied customers will return to the point of sale.[/quote]

It was only week that you were questioning what was happening at RC Lens, now that's over and done with, it's back to SWFC.

As Gary Barlow says 'have a little patience'-all will come good. You can then move on to finding another subject to put your negative spin on.

The fault with the kit lies with the manufacturer - what do you suggest the club does? That's business. The product you sign up for is not always the product you receive.

[aussieowl]

Loans against the stadium soon up for repayment.

One new face (injured goalkeeper)

Fall in season tickets

No home shirts for sale (complaints of poor quality of those sold)

No shorts for the team (never mind for sale)

No away kit

Self-imposed transfer embargo?

Well run club?

Not tired of impersonating GreyHairedOwl yet then Katch?..;)

[helmut_rooster]

Loans against the stadium soon up for repayment.

One new face (injured goalkeeper)

Fall in season tickets

No home shirts for sale (complaints of poor quality of those sold)

No home shirts for sale(never mind for sale)

No away kit

Self-imposed transfer embargo?

Well run club?

Rah Rah Rah!!!

One new face: Going through a takeover, things like this get held up even a clown like you knows that.

Fall in season tickets: Happens when the price goes up dunnit.

No home shirts for sale: An error from our supplier and spunk all to do with the club, google Sondico Oldham/Yeovil for more details.

No away kit: Always delayed till after the home kit you should know that from the amount of stalking of our great club you do.

Self-imposed transfer embargo? er no, see first point re-takeover flower.

Well run club?: yes, remind us against which division your team is in peaches >:)

[Katchouro]

Not tired of impersonating GreyHairedOwl yet then Katch?..;)

Not you as well aussie. You do make yourselves look silly believing I'm every 'antagonist' on this board.

Not that GHO is an antagonist, he's actually making pertinent points and raising genuine concerns about a potentially disastrous embarrassing upcoming season for you.


The OP is informative to me as I didn't know the Sondico kit situation. All sounds very bush league and unprofessional. Even Strafford brokered a deal for a quality kit manufacturer.

[redgreggie]

personally I don't give a flying ph*ck who produces our kit, as far as I'm concerned they can go out b0llock naked as long as their bodies are painted in those wonderful blue and white stripes...and we keep playing the good football that we did last year...and we keep getting the results as good as we did last season.

it's the results that matter...not the kit producer...not the owner...just the result, oh, and the league that we are in...not bothered about the premier league...but do get a wee bit concerned when we drop to the depths below the CHAMPIONSHIP!

























ray...in Batley.

[Katchouro]

In that case Ray in 12 months time I expect you to be concerned.


You can't be so blasA© about these matters. The sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier is reflected in other ways the club is being run.

[GHO]

Loans against the stadium soon up for repayment.

One new face (injured goalkeeper)

Fall in season tickets

No home shirts for sale (complaints of poor quality of those sold)

No home shirts for sale(never mind for sale)

No away kit

Self-imposed transfer embargo?

Well run club?

Rah Rah Rah!!!

One new face: Going through a takeover, things like this get held up even a clown like you knows that.

Fall in season tickets: Happens when the price goes up dunnit.

No home shirts for sale: An error from our supplier and spunk all to do with the club, google Sondico Oldham/Yeovil for more details.

No away kit: Always delayed till after the home kit you should know that from the amount of stalking of our great club you do.

Self-imposed transfer embargo? er no, see first point re-takeover flower.

Well run club?: yes, remind us against which division your team is in peaches >:)[/quote]

Is

[aussieowl]

Not tired of impersonating GreyHairedOwl yet then Katch?..;)

Not you as well aussie. You do make yourselves look silly believing I'm every 'antagonist' on this board.

Not that GHO is an antagonist, he's actually making pertinent points and raising genuine concerns about a potentially disastrous embarrassing upcoming season for you.

[/quote]


Just a bit of fun Katch, I have no idea really.

One thing I am certain of though, our grey haired friend isn't & never has been an Owl, that much the pair of you DO have in common.

[Rotherhamowl10]

In that case Ray in 12 months time I expect you to be concerned.


You can't be so blasAi about these matters. The sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier is reflected in other ways the club is being run.

Enlighten me on 'the sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier'?

[helmut_rooster]

Loans against the stadium soon up for repayment.

One new face (injured goalkeeper)

Fall in season tickets

No home shirts for sale (complaints of poor quality of those sold)

No home shirts for sale(never mind for sale)

No away kit

Self-imposed transfer embargo?

Well run club?

Rah Rah Rah!!!

One new face: Going through a takeover, things like this get held up even a clown like you knows that.

Fall in season tickets: Happens when the price goes up dunnit.

No home shirts for sale: An error from our supplier and spunk all to do with the club, google Sondico Oldham/Yeovil for more details.

No away kit: Always delayed till after the home kit you should know that from the amount of stalking of our great club you do.

Self-imposed transfer embargo? er no, see first point re-takeover flower.

Well run club?: yes, remind us against which divisio

[GHO]

Tom lees signed yesterday, fee undisclosed meaning payment made.

Next...

Lees was available on a free the day before.

[roseylee]

lees went for nothing, cellino is saving on the wages thats all, there was no transfer fee whatsoever.

when he plays for you next season, you will find out the reason why. ;D

[SallyKate]

In that case Ray in 12 months time I expect you to be concerned.


You can't be so blasA© about these matters. The sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier is reflected in other ways the club is being run.

Ohhh Katch I would be careful about comparing how clubs are run to their kit sponsor.

Just look at your little shirt provider. Constantly criticized in reports at the UN for employing child slave labour as a policy, banned throughout colleges in the US for it exploitation of workers in the third world, regularly outed for its shameful continual breaches of the UN standards and moral codes regarding child labour,highlighted by Save the Children as the prime example of a ethically bankrupt company with no regards for local labour and more and more and more. YOU call yourself a Socialist KAtch?. Don't make me laugh.

Wear your shirt with shame.

[SallyKate]

Loans against the stadium soon up for repayment.

One new face (injured goalkeeper)

Fall in season tickets

No home shirts for sale (complaints of poor quality of those sold)

No home shirts for sale(never mind for sale)

No away kit

Self-imposed transfer embargo?

Well run club?

Rah Rah Rah!!!

One new face: Going through a takeover, things like this get held up even a clown like you knows that.

Fall in season tickets: Happens when the price goes up dunnit.

No home shirts for sale: An error from our supplier and spunk all to do with the club, google Sondico Oldham/Yeovil for more details.

No away kit: Always delayed till after the home kit you should know that from the amount of stalking of our great club you do.

Self-imposed transfer embargo? er no, see first point re-takeover flower.

Well run club?: yes, remind us against which divisio

[helmut_rooster]

lees went for nothing, cellino is saving on the wages thats all, there was no transfer fee whatsoever.

when he plays for you next season, you will find out the reason why. ;D

6-0

Bonjour!

[Katchouro]

In that case Ray in 12 months time I expect you to be concerned.


You can't be so blasAi about these matters. The sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier is reflected in other ways the club is being run.

Enlighten me on 'the sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier'?[/quote]

Procuring the services of and signing a contract with a company that has failed to provide supplies in a fit time, deliver on quality or seemingly sought any fan feedback on their designs and colour choices reads as sloppy to me.

Surprised you even had to ask.





One thing I am certain of though, our grey haired friend isn't & never has been an Owl, that much the pair of you DO have in common.

You're acting like you're unaware of the glass half full supporter - you know them and I know them. GHO prefers to devote his time to con

[Katchouro]

In that case Ray in 12 months time I expect you to be concerned.


You can't be so blasA© about these matters. The sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier is reflected in other ways the club is being run.

Ohhh Katch I would be careful about comparing how clubs are run to their kit sponsor.

Just look at your little shirt provider. Constantly criticized in reports at the UN for employing child slave labour as a policy, banned throughout colleges in the US for it exploitation of workers in the third world, regularly outed for its shameful continual breaches of the UN standards and moral codes regarding child labour,highlighted by Save the Children as the prime example of a ethically bankrupt company with no regards for local labour and more and more and more. YOU call yourself a Socialist KAtch?. Don't make me laugh.

Wear your shirt with shame.[/quote]

Like a schoolboy in

[SallyKate]

Lol Kathch - I don't hate Martel I like her. In fact I Don't hate anyone. Hate is such a misused word. Just simply posting what I get sent Katch. Either way with the take over it makes no difference to me.

Speaking of hate - the only thing I hate is hate itself. (My psychologists says that's acceptable)

Oh and I hate tomato sauce - I can't bear to even look at it; memories of a sauce related accident as a child maybe?(My psychologist says I have issues on that one - I wonder if both your personalities agree?)

Regarding the shirts I just thought I would reply to your banter and as a Trot you'de be interested. Go on love - boycott the shirt and support ans still your and exploited children at the same time. I know you have it in your heart.

SKT xxxx

PS I am not a Trot - though Trotter was a good servant for Wednesday (So I am told - even I am not that old) - I'm an Anarchist - or Anti Christ whichever you prefer. Must be my rather crazy but still alluring eyes.

Trot - Trot - Tr

[aussieowl]

[/quote]



One thing I am certain of though, our grey haired friend isn't & never has been an Owl, that much the pair of you DO have in common.

You're coming across a wee bit NKT aussie.

[/quote]

I wouldn't know, I read it only sparingly.

GHO should write a book, he could call it One Shade Of Grey...do libraries have a doom & gloom section.

[braggyowl]

In that case Ray in 12 months time I expect you to be concerned.


You can't be so blasAi about these matters. The sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier is reflected in other ways the club is being run.

Enlighten me on 'the sloppy way the club has handled the kit supplier'?[/quote]

Procuring the services of and signing a contract with a company that has failed to provide supplies in a fit time, deliver on quality or seemingly sought any fan feedback on their designs and colour choices reads as sloppy to me.

Surprised you even had to ask.





One thing I am certain of though, our grey haired friend isn't & never has been an Owl, that much the pair of you DO have in common.

You're acting like you're unaware of the glass half full supporter - you know them and I kn

[sexypistol]

I see some things never change on here, GHO is as negative as ever. Katch still talks a load of rubbish (but granted he does have entertainment value...sometimes;D ) And if we lose our first two league games of the season we will probably see Wmlee or whatever he posts as now coming on calling for Gray's head.

[GHO]

Opening game in 4 days time. No fans will be wearing the new away kit as nobody knows what it looks like yet. The club is losing out on thousands of pounds of merchandise sales.

Our Head Coach sounded depressed this morning on the radio, explaining how 3 or 4 players who had agreed to sign have now signed for other clubs.

With the loans against the stadium due soon, let's hope that the Chairman has a Plan B.

[SallyKate]

You forgot to mention it's raining GHO. Oh me oh my - this world is so bleak. God in heaven or Satan in hell - take me now and deliver me from the grey deep depressive abyss that is GHO's meaningless existence.

Cheer up cheeky cheery chops. It could be worse. Happy smiles please. Say cheeeeeeeeeeese.

SKT xxxx

[Positive_Blade59]

You forgot to mention it's raining GHO. Oh me oh my - this world is so bleak. God in heaven or Satan in hell - take me now and deliver me from the grey deep depressive abyss that is GHO's meaningless existence.

Cheer up cheeky cheery chops. It could be worse. Happy smiles please. Say cheeeeeeeeeeese.

SKT xxxx

This morning
I woke up with this feeling
I didn't know how to deal with
And so I just decided to myself
I'd hide it to myself and never talk about it
And didn't I go and shout it
When you walked into the room.

"I think I love you!" :heart: :heart: :heart:

[Katchouro]

So you're going into a fresh season with the unprolific Madine and Nuhiu as the only two specialist strikers in your squad.

But you're all getting a buzz on for this Leeds reject Lees to even care.

[aussieowl]

So you're going into a fresh season with the unprolific Madine and Nuhiu as the only two specialist strikers in your squad.

But you're all getting a buzz on for this Leeds reject Lees to even care.


All?...only thing I'm getting a buzz about is the new season like I always do.

[GHO]

Plan B? - view external link (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-weds/sheffield-wednesday-antonio-on-the-brink-of-owls-exit-1-6769496)

[Katchouro]

All?...only thing I'm getting a buzz about is the new season like I always do.


Penny for your thoughts on Antonio to Forest? And the state of your squad in general?


It's a time of year when you should be recruiting not selling. What message does this send out to the collective fanbase if Antonio is sold to service Mandaric's debt?

[aussieowl]

All?...only thing I'm getting a buzz about is the new season like I always do.


Penny for your thoughts on Antonio to Forest? And the state of your squad in general?


It's a time of year when you should be recruiting not selling. What message does this send out to the collective fanbase if Antonio is sold to service Mandaric's debt?[/quote]

I'd rather Antonio stayed but if he goes he goes, it won't upset me...as for what message it sends, I don't know, people can & do read what they like into these things.

The squad is thin but that's nothing new, it's been that way for 14 years, again it doesn't bother me too much, we'll get by with loans etc, if the takeover actually goes ahead then maybe we'll do something before the window closes or in January...as you can probably tell I don't pay too much attention to all the 'meltdown' stuff, the football on the pitch is really all I'm inte

[hirstyboywonder]

All?...only thing I'm getting a buzz about is the new season like I always do.


Penny for your thoughts on Antonio to Forest? And the state of your squad in general?


It's a time of year when you should be recruiting not selling. What message does this send out to the collective fanbase if Antonio is sold to service Mandaric's debt?[/quote]

I've been away for a while but it seems things have not gone well for us in the past week or so.

I expected to come home to find a nice new away kit to have a gander at. We haven't even officially released what it looks like never mind put it on sale and we should be wearing it on Saturday.

As for Antonio, I like him as a player and think we would be better off as a team with him.
He was absolutely dreadful for the final few home games of last season and his injury record isn't great so getting up to £2M for him might be good business providin

[SallyKate]

A 5 minute fairy tale for Wittle Katch and Mr Grey Hair.

Once Upon a Time in a Land called ‘Obsessed’, lived a lonely little boy called Katch, who apart from his imaginary friend Grey Hair, had no friends at all. (Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)

Every single day it was the same. Katch and Grey Hair would play alone, just them, no one else, until it was time for bed and sweet dreams of rainbows, kittens and a poor runaway Poundland Price far - far away. (Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr so sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet)

Now although Katch loved Grey Hair - and Grey Hair loved Katch – Mommy Katch soon became concerned about her son’s narcissistic psychosis, and the fact Grey Hair wasn’t real at all. So after thinking for a while what she could do, she decided, as all nice Mommy’s would, to tell Katch it was time he strode out in to the big wide blue yonder world and find some other, and more importantly, real friends. (What a nice Mommy she is - blessssssssssssss)

At first Katch didn

[Edwyn_Chevans]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the irony.

[ormester]

obssesed lol look in a mirror sally


is it today mm what gets me is you lot think youre going to get a the wad of cash and spend it on stevie may ben marshall you really think youll see that money . lol utbfto

[GHO]

lees went for nothing, cellino is saving on the wages thats all, there was no transfer fee whatsoever.

when he plays for you next season, you will find out the reason why. ;D

Our Head Coach has confirmed this rendering Helmut's rather condescending post incorrect.

[Katchouro]

A strange week that's seen me nodding in agreement with Russel Brand, Sayeeda Warsi and now hirstyboywonder.


Just listened to an 'explosive' episode of football heaven dominated by disillusioned Wednesdayites. The beleaguered Serbian chairman gave an interview as did the buzzing Antonio who revealed that the takeover shenanigans are having a detrimental effect on the team, he was keen on the move and that you all really took to him (is he sure about that?).

Mandaric sounded like a man with the weight of the world on his shoulders. He thinks your squad is ready bar a striker or two - who is he trying to kid? What a insipid answer he gave when asked for an update on the takeover, he sounds like a man who knows that it ain't happening.

We still don't know the fee paid for Antonio but we do know that Reading will receive 25% of it.



braggy, Rov - any thoughts on these new revelations. Are you still confident that Mammadov will own the club?

[Owler]

Loans against the stadium soon up for repayment.

One new face (injured goalkeeper)

Fall in season tickets

No home shirts for sale (complaints of poor quality of those sold)

No shorts for the team (never mind for sale)

No away kit

Self-imposed transfer embargo?

Well run club?

I never understand what your point is, you're just about wrong on everyone.

Self imposed transfer embargo?? XD XD XD

I've never seen such rubbish posted.

[braggyowl]

I have...The post above yours.

[banno]

All?...only thing I'm getting a buzz about is the new season like I always do.


Penny for your thoughts on Antonio to Forest? And the state of your squad in general?


It's a time of year when you should be recruiting not selling. What message does this send out to the collective fanbase if Antonio is sold to service Mandaric's debt?[/quote]





I'm on my hols and probably don't know all the facts but I can't honestly believe we've sold our best player so close to the beginning of the season.
Its not what you do when there's a multi million pound takeover going through.
Like I say, I probably don't know all the facts but from where I am I'm not happy.

[Rotherhamowl10]

[quote="Katchouro"]A strange week that's seen me nodding in agreement with Russel Brand, Sayeeda Warsi and now hirstyboywonder.


Just listened to an 'explosive' episode of football heaven dominated by disillusioned Wednesdayites. The beleaguered Serbian chairman gave an interview as did the buzzing Antonio who revealed that the takeover shenanigans are having a detrimental effect on the team, he was keen on the move and that you all really took to him (is he sure about that?).

Mandaric sounded like a man with the weight of the world on his shoulders. He thinks your squad is ready bar a striker or two - who is he trying to kid? What a insipid answer he gave when asked for an update on the takeover, he sounds like a man who knows that it ain't happening.

We still don't know the fee paid for Antonio but we do know that Reading will receive 25% of it.



braggy, Rov - any thoughts on these new revelations. Are you still confident that Mammadov will own t

[SallyKate]

obssesed lol look in a mirror sally


is it today mm what gets me is you lot think youre going to get a the wad of cash and spend it on stevie may ben marshall you really think youll see that money . lol utbfto


I looked in the mirror and it tells me I'm not the fairest of them all. but I alraedy knew that.

Was of money; who said that. Not I said Sally.

SKT

xxxx

PS: the Poundland Prince - what a big spender - not.

Hu'fgs xxxx

[Katchouro]

Good honest post from banno and a reasonably debated post by Rov - is the mojo returning.


I think we're all looking forward to the Mandaric statement tomorrow. He needs to give us something more than the 'it's being sorted, be patient' angle - unfortunately I think that's what we're going to get. When the Head Coach is coming out with statements that he's 'frustrated' and 'disappointed' this close to the start of the season that's not good.


I don't anticipate the takeover going ahead. Credit where credit's due the big man GHO called it right from the start. As an asset SWFC isn't worth 60 million euros - that always had to bring into question the validity of the Mammadov bid.

[hirstyboywonder]

Good honest post from banno and a reasonably debated post by Rov - is the mojo returning.


I think we're all looking forward to the Mandaric statement tomorrow. He needs to give us something more than the 'it's being sorted, be patient' angle - unfortunately I think that's what we're going to get. When the Head Coach is coming out with statements that he's 'frustrated' and 'disappointed' this close to the start of the season that's not good.


I don't anticipate the takeover going ahead. Credit where credit's due the big man GHO called it right from the start. As an asset SWFC isn't worth 60 million euros - that always had to bring into question the validity of the Mammadov bid.

What's all this 'we' business?

Not sure what exchange rate you are working on but the bid was 50 million Euro not 60 million.

[Katchouro]

An antagonistic and divisive post from pinthirsty there.


We can all agree he's let himself down.

[Edwyn_Chevans]

For the alleged (50m Euros what was MM actually selling?

The stadium, the training facilities, everything not nailed down?

Some folks have had their pants pulled down.

[Rotherhamowl10]

Good honest post from banno and a reasonably debated post by Rov - is the mojo returning.


I think we're all looking forward to the Mandaric statement tomorrow. He needs to give us something more than the 'it's being sorted, be patient' angle - unfortunately I think that's what we're going to get. When the Head Coach is coming out with statements that he's 'frustrated' and 'disappointed' this close to the start of the season that's not good.


I don't anticipate the takeover going ahead. Credit where credit's due the big man GHO called it right from the start. As an asset SWFC isn't worth 60 million euros - that always had to bring into question the validity of the Mammadov bid.

I agree, I think the statement will go down the 'be patient' angle - but that's not an issue for me if that's what we have to do in order for it to go through.

There's also the chance that MM has had enough and called it off - if that's the case we ca

[Katchouro]

Can't wait to read GHO's thoughts on this latest Mandaric statement.

[aussieowl]

Can't wait to read GHO's thoughts on this latest Mandaric statement.

Glutten for punishment are we, besides what could he possibly say that he hasn't said before...:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

[Edwyn_Chevans]

Can't understand why GHO gets so much flak.

He's the only one poster on here that tells it as it is.

The unusual suspects must secretly adore him, though too macho to admit.

Ain't that right kid!

[aussieowl]

I can tell you exactly why he gets flak.

He purports to be a Wednesday fan but yet he never has anything positive to say, he makes some valid points but they're always negative, always doom & gloom, never a good word about anything to do with the club...if we ever have any success again we won't see him for dust.

Wednesday fan my ar5e.

[Owler]

I can tell you exactly why he gets flak.

He purports to be a Wednesday fan but yet he never has anything positive to say, he makes some valid points but they're always negative, always doom & gloom, never a good word about anything to do with the club...if we ever have any success again we won't see him for dust.

Wednesday fan my ar5e.

My thoughts too, the away kits is launched, we've got some shorts for home kit,:) we've just spent 800K on a player and for takeover, whether it goes ahead or not Milan wouldn't abandon us.

We've got a terrific manager who's bringing in some good young players and along with youngsters coming through from academy.
As shown yesterday he's injected a great team spirit in to players.
We've got a lot to look forward too.

[Katchouro]

Altered it for ya fella.



Milan wouldn't abandon his investment he managed to carpetbag.

[banno]

Loans against the stadium soon up for repayment.

One new face (injured goalkeeper)

Fall in season tickets

No home shirts for sale (complaints of poor quality of those sold)

No shorts for the team (never mind for sale)

No away kit

Self-imposed transfer embargo?

Well run club?






maybe it will affect the team in september?
hello gho?
hello?
gho, where are you?

well run club?
i suppose immitation is the highest form of flattery :)

[Katchouro]

GHO at his prophetic best.

It's all going very, very wrong for the want away Serb and his head coach. No money, no entertainment and no hope.


Lights are currently on amber, they turn to red if Evans' merry Millers turn you over.

[Rotherhamowl10]

GHO at his prophetic best.

It's all going very, very wrong for the want away Serb and his head coach. No money, no entertainment and no hope.


Lights are currently on amber, they turn to red if Evans' merry Millers turn you over.

Yep, 16 games into the season and sat in 14th place in the Championship...

[Katchouro]

Rov sticking his fingers in his ears and chanting 'Trust in Milan' over and over again.


Wednesday are in crisis, you're in denial.

[aussieowl]

'crisis'...XD XD XD

It's football, not life in the middle east.

[GHO]

The club's poor commercial performance highlighted in July is now affecting performance on the pitch, with our head coach desperate for a loan signing to turn things round.

The sale of our most-prized asset is affecting our team who haven't managed to score a goal from open play in League matches at Hillsborough all season.

The advertising of a corrupt regime on our shirts is a stain on the club, made worse by the fact that we haven't received a penny for it.

[Owler]

The club's poor commercial performance highlighted in July is now affecting performance on the pitch, with our head coach desperate for a loan signing to turn things round.

The sale of our most-prized asset is affecting our team who haven't managed to score a goal from open play in League matches at Hillsborough all season.

The advertising of a corrupt regime on our shirts is a stain on the club, made worse by the fact that we haven't received a penny for it.

Bloody hell are you still spouting your rubbish on here?

I still think you're something to do with a previous lot that run club into ground and can't live with it.

You're on wrong message board for this, come over to owls talk and reveal yourself.

This message board is more for banter with fans from other clubs.

[GHO]

The club's poor commercial performance highlighted in July is now affecting performance on the pitch, with our head coach desperate for a loan signing to turn things round.

The sale of our most-prized asset is affecting our team who haven't managed to score a goal from open play in League matches at Hillsborough all season.

The advertising of a corrupt regime on our shirts is a stain on the club, made worse by the fact that we haven't received a penny for it.

Bloody hell are you still spouting your rubbish on here?

I still think you're something to do with a previous lot that run club into ground and can't live with it.

You're on wrong message board for this, come over to owls talk and reveal yourself.

This message board is more for banter with fans from other clubs.[/quote]

The previous regime that were hounded out after finishing 9th in the Championship, attracting 24000 fans every gam

[hirstyboywonder]

The club's poor commercial performance highlighted in July is now affecting performance on the pitch, with our head coach desperate for a loan signing to turn things round.

The sale of our most-prized asset is affecting our team who haven't managed to score a goal from open play in League matches at Hillsborough all season.

The advertising of a corrupt regime on our shirts is a stain on the club, made worse by the fact that we haven't received a penny for it.

Bloody hell are you still spouting your rubbish on here?

I still think you're something to do with a previous lot that run club into ground and can't live with it.

You're on wrong message board for this, come over to owls talk and reveal yourself.

This message board is more for banter with fans from other clubs.[/quote]

The previous regime that were hounded out after finishing 9th in the Cham

[Katchouro]

Schoolboy error from the boywonder - he forget to mention 'threatening legal action against a terminally ill fan'. That usually gets trotted out in the lazy bullet point poison against DA.


I see Rov is still giving this thread a wide birth, far too interested trying to score cheap points against United than going toe to toe with GHO on his legitimate concerns about Mandaric.

Concerns I'd hazard a guess the boywonder shares, in part at least.

[hirstyboywonder]

Schoolboy error from the boywonder - he forget to mention 'threatening legal action against a terminally ill fan'. That usually gets trotted out in the lazy bullet point poison against DA.


I see Rov is still giving this thread a wide birth, far too interested trying to score cheap points against United than going toe to toe with GHO on his legitimate concerns about Mandaric.

Concerns I'd hazard a guess the boywonder shares, in part at least.

Mandaric rescued us from the trap door which the regime that GHO likes to write so fondly about left us hanging over the edge of when they ran off rather than staying to try and sort things out, that will never be forgotten.

There are issues that need to be addressed though some on the non-football side such as catering - we are stuck with after others before the current regime messed things up.

I would wager that a fair amount of fans at most clubs have aspects of how their Chairman run

[Katchouro]

Will you concede now that they could have handled matters better?

Of course they could have. Right from the off I wanted our relationship severed with him as soon as the verdict was reached.

I also think the latest statement was a disgrace, both in tone and content. Extremely disappointed with the club on that matter.


But sense, as it often does, appears like it will prevail. Rumours are that Evans' won't be offered a contract - much to the chagrin of many at S6.

[GHO]

For those who thought a couple of early season wins made everything alright, this will make pretty grim reading: - view external link (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-weds/sheffield-wednesday-owls-losing-6-million-a-year-with-worse-to-come-warns-chairman-milan)

[Rotherhamowl10]

For those who thought a couple of early season wins made everything alright, this will make pretty grim reading:

Calm down GHO...we've seen it!

It's pretty grim reading for every club in the football league, as nearly every club is losing money. If you're worried about the financial situation at SWFC, then you'll not sleep when you analyse the rest.

Given that the last three seasons the losses have been around this magnitude, then why would you be surprised?

The game is on its ass and the big golden Premiership carrot is dangling in front of all Championship clubs...with clubs making big losses and chairman offering to cover them.

If clubs can't cover their own costs through commercial revenue, tickets and sponsorship, then there is only one way football at this level is going.

The biggest financial burden on clubs is wages. Saw someone post on Owlstalk that 'only' 5k per week works out at £260,000 a season - not including bonuses.

[Katchouro]

You're haemorrhaging £6 million a year and it's the FA's fault?


You've lost the plot rov.

[GHO]

Given that the last three seasons the losses have been around this magnitude, then why would you be surprised?






Last year's loss was £3.9m.

The figure leaked to the press would be an increase of 53.84%. Do you now accept that the matters I raised in July have played a big part in this?

[Rotherhamowl10]

You're haemorrhaging £6 million a year and it's the FA's fault?


You've lost the plot rov.

Struggling to find where I said that :? Might want to start reading my posts rather than trying to point score all the time.

GHO - I can't pretend to know why the losses have increased, you'll have to ask MM...or wait for the annual report (I'm sure you will).

[GHO]

GHO - I can't pretend to know why the losses have increased

But surely you must accept that the issues I raised in July have impacted upon them.

[braggyowl]

You've gotta laugh at double standards Katch.

The way he "likes" GHO's posts because he thinks he's a "sensible poster".

Yet on their board the most sensible poster of them all, Lendegoey, doesn't seem to have any "likes" from Katch.

Is it because Len always tells the truth about United but every post he makes gets slagged from a pig (pardon the pun) to a dog by the total nob sacks on there I wonder.

Oh, by the way, I see the latest ex pat to run off from the piggery is the famous hooligan singer :O

Suppose they could always blame it on their Chairman...Afterall, he started all this running out on em in the first place didn't he! ;)

[Katchouro]

rov, you outlined the problems as you see them in terms of Wednesday's finances, and football finances in general, and then your parting shot was to challenge the FA to get it 'sorted' - suggesting that Wednesday's financial problems are down to them not 'sorting' it. Which is ludicrous.

What are your thoughts on the shirt sponsorship nonsense Mandaric has overseen this season? How much has that cost Wednesday? Shirt sponsorship is simple house keeping Mandaric has no excuse for getting wrong.



You're confused braggy (not for the first time), I've liked plenty of Uncle Leonard's posts over the past year or so, there isn't much I disagree with him re the Evans debacle.

Len's an opinionated poster who gets people's backs up, just like GHO. But Footymad is all the richer for their participation.

[braggyowl]

He gets people's backs up alright, most of your board want to kill him!

Confused am I...Right you are then Katch...If you say so. XD

[braggyowl]

haha I see they're getting very excited over on your board Katch about possibly signing YET ANOTHER one of our rejects, COG..

How the mighty (yeah right) have fallen eh mate. ;)

[Katchouro]

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure as they say. You have an ex Blade fullback most of you seem fond of who was shown the back door by United for not being up to standard.


I will say this about O’Grady though, if he can produce the form he showed for the majority of his time at Barnsley he’s not only better than the striking options at the Lane but he’s also a better striking option than anything you have. May, Madine, GTF, Nuhui – an in form O’Grady gets the #9 shirt over all of them in my opinion.

Massive dropped b0llock by Jones to let him leave.

[Rotherhamowl10]

rov, you outlined the problems as you see them in terms of Wednesday's finances, and football finances in general, and then your parting shot was to challenge the FA to get it 'sorted' - suggesting that Wednesday's financial problems are down to them not 'sorting' it. Which is ludicrous.

What are your thoughts on the shirt sponsorship nonsense Mandaric has overseen this season? How much has that cost Wednesday? Shirt sponsorship is simple house keeping Mandaric has no excuse for getting wrong.



You're confused braggy (not for the first time), I've liked plenty of Uncle Leonard's posts over the past year or so, there isn't much I disagree with him re the Evans debacle.

Len's an opinionated poster who gets people's backs up, just like GHO. But Footymad is all the richer for their participation.

"While there is clubs willing to take huge losses, the rest have no other option but to spend beyond their means.

It's time the F

[braggyowl]

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure as they say. You have an ex Blade fullback most of you seem fond of who was shown the back door by United for not being up to standard.


I will say this about O’Grady though, if he can produce the form he showed for the majority of his time at Barnsley he’s not only better than the striking options at the Lane but he’s also a better striking option than anything you have. May, Madine, GTF, Nuhui – an in form O’Grady gets the #9 shirt over all of them in my opinion.

Massive dropped b0llock by Jones to let him leave.



Tbh I have to agree with the last line...Jones did drop a b0llock with COG..He seemed to be at his fittest when he got rid.
Although we'll always have fond memories of him scoring that cracker against your lot with the header that seemed about 25 yards out...Not all bad then eh. >;)

[Katchouro]

I was questioning the lack of action by the FA to sort out the mess that is football in general.

And by extension apportioning blame on the FA for Wednesday's financial mismanagement. Which I repeat, is ludicrous.



As for the shirt sponsorship, what do you want MM to do? The deal was signed and the sponsor didn't pay up - how is that MM fault?

It's not what I want, but what you should demand! Mandaric didn't perform his due diligence - amateurish.



Don't understand why people compare players (not to mentions ones they never see play) when they are totally different types of players.

Football message board rov, discussion is the currency. The four players I mentioned are comparable to COG.



The COG talk is all moot though as it seems we don't have a pot to pee in to cover the loan fee and Hyypia i

[hirstyboywonder]

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure as they say. You have an ex Blade fullback most of you seem fond of who was shown the back door by United for not being up to standard.


I will say this about O’Grady though, if he can produce the form he showed for the majority of his time at Barnsley he’s not only better than the striking options at the Lane but he’s also a better striking option than anything you have. May, Madine, GTF, Nuhui – an in form O’Grady gets the #9 shirt over all of them in my opinion.

Massive dropped b0llock by Jones to let him leave.

At the time Jones dropped COG and subsequently got rid of him I would have agreed with you, he was in form and effective. He didn't finish last season in great form though and despite playing in most of Brighton's games he has scored less goals that May, Nuhiu and Madine.

[Rotherhamowl10]

I was questioning the lack of action by the FA to sort out the mess that is football in general.

And by extension apportioning blame on the FA for Wednesday's financial mismanagement. Which I repeat, is ludicrous.



As for the shirt sponsorship, what do you want MM to do? The deal was signed and the sponsor didn't pay up - how is that MM fault?

It's not what I want, but what you should demand! Mandaric didn't perform his due diligence - amateurish.



Don't understand why people compare players (not to mentions ones they never see play) when they are totally different types of players.

Football message board rov, discussion is the currency. The four players I mentioned are comparable to COG.



The COG talk is all moot though as it seems we don't have a p

[Katchouro]

So to summarise rov, the skinny of what you're saying is that football's ills are down to the FA / Football League not imposing a minimum wage.

It's not happening anytime soon - so Wednesday are left to make sure that revenue coming in is at least in the same ball park as the outgoings. Mandaric is failing at this simple economic principle. You need to accept this and stop excusing his poor Chairmanship.




As for your claim that Nuhiu is a better player than O'Grady. I don't know you rov but I'd wager YOU'RE a better player than Nuhiu. Sticking a lamppost just outside the D would wield the same success as giving Nuhiu a game.

[banno]

So to summarise rov, the skinny of what you're saying is that football's ills are down to the FA / Football League not imposing a minimum wage.

It's not happening anytime soon - so Wednesday are left to make sure that revenue coming in is at least in the same ball park as the outgoings. Mandaric is failing at this simple economic principle. You need to accept this and stop excusing his poor Chairmanship.




As for your claim that Nuhiu is a better player than O'Grady. I don't know you rov but I'd wager YOU'RE a better player than Nuhiu. Sticking a lamppost just outside the D would wield the same success as giving Nuhiu a game.






yet nuhiu is a championship regular and ogrady (as much as i liked him while with us due to his commitment) looks likely to have to drop to the 3rd div to get a game.
kinda makes your arguement sound a bit silly...

as usual. ;)

as for football clubs keeping a grip of there outgoings, remind us

[GHO]

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure as they say. You have an ex Blade fullback most of you seem fond of who was shown the back door by United for not being up to standard.


I will say this about O’Grady though, if he can produce the form he showed for the majority of his time at Barnsley he’s not only better than the striking options at the Lane but he’s also a better striking option than anything you have. May, Madine, GTF, Nuhui – an in form O’Grady gets the #9 shirt over all of them in my opinion.

Massive dropped b0llock by Jones to let him leave.

At the time Jones dropped COG and subsequently got rid of him I would have agreed with you, he was in form and effective. He didn't finish last season in great form though and despite playing in most of Brighton's games he has scored less goals that May, Nuhiu and Madine.[/quote]

O'Grady has barely started a game this

[hirstyboywonder]

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure as they say. You have an ex Blade fullback most of you seem fond of who was shown the back door by United for not being up to standard.


I will say this about O’Grady though, if he can produce the form he showed for the majority of his time at Barnsley he’s not only better than the striking options at the Lane but he’s also a better striking option than anything you have. May, Madine, GTF, Nuhui – an in form O’Grady gets the #9 shirt over all of them in my opinion.

Massive dropped b0llock by Jones to let him leave.

At the time Jones dropped COG and subsequently got rid of him I would have agreed with you, he was in form and effective. He didn't finish last season in great form though and despite playing in most of Brighton's games he has scored less goals that May, Nuhiu and Madine.[/quote]

[aussieowl]

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure as they say. You have an ex Blade fullback most of you seem fond of who was shown the back door by United for not being up to standard.


I will say this about O’Grady though, if he can produce the form he showed for the majority of his time at Barnsley he’s not only better than the striking options at the Lane but he’s also a better striking option than anything you have. May, Madine, GTF, Nuhui – an in form O’Grady gets the #9 shirt over all of them in my opinion.

Massive dropped b0llock by Jones to let him leave.

At the time Jones dropped COG and subsequently got rid of him I would have agreed with you, he was in form and effective. He didn't finish last season in great form though and despite playing in most of Brighton's games he has scored less goals that May, Nuhiu and Madine.[/quote]

[Katchouro]

So to summarise rov, the skinny of what you're saying is that football's ills are down to the FA / Football League not imposing a minimum wage.

Ooops, school boy error, I meant 'maximum wage'. Something that I can't see happening in my lifetime, and certainly not in Jimmy Hills.


@banno, try and stay on topic, there's a good chap. ;)

[banno]

So to summarise rov, the skinny of what you're saying is that football's ills are down to the FA / Football League not imposing a minimum wage.

Ooops, school boy error, I meant 'maximum wage'. Something that I can't see happening in my lifetime, and certainly not in Jimmy Hills.


@banno, try and stay on topic, there's a good chap. ;)[/quote]






tut tut, you should know by now that i don't do requests ;)
btw you do talk utter b0ll0x

[Rotherhamowl10]

So to summarise rov, the skinny of what you're saying is that football's ills are down to the FA / Football League not imposing a minimum wage.

It's not happening anytime soon - so Wednesday are left to make sure that revenue coming in is at least in the same ball park as the outgoings. Mandaric is failing at this simple economic principle. You need to accept this and stop excusing his poor Chairmanship.




As for your claim that Nuhiu is a better player than O'Grady. I don't know you rov but I'd wager YOU'RE a better player than Nuhiu. Sticking a lamppost just outside the D would wield the same success as giving Nuhiu a game.

The FA haven't done enough to control clubs over spending. They are the regulatory body who should be questioning clubs on why they are making MASSIVE losses. All they've been bothered about is how much they can milk out of sponsors for the Premiership.

I believe the FFP should prevent clubs overspe