Stevie May...

[braggyowl]

Hit the post YET AGAIN...


He's been very, very unlucky up to now in the scoring department but he's still a young un and I strongly believe he'll come good sooner, rather than later.

Can't fault him for his effort and running (although sometimes his first touch let's him down).

It's frustrating...More for him than us I reckon, but next season watch this lad knock the goals in. :)

[Ginger_Potts]

He'll come good.
I reckon he believes in his self.
Fingers crossed Braggy.

[Bluestripe]

Credit to him also for choosing the right club...wheat & chaff XD XD XD

[Donald_Valley]

Don't stop believing and one day you might even convince yourselves.

What a waste of money. But you don't care cos you've got loads now.

[PeteWaller]

Jealousy is a funny old thing. For me, May will undoubtedly come good. Simply, he gets the chances to score which means his brain anticipates where he should be. He has a number of scoring chances in most games. If he didn't have chances to score it would be different. No brainer for me, an excellent signing and one I wished we had secured

[braggyowl]

Don't stop believing and one day you might even convince yourselves.

What a waste of money. But you don't care cos you've got loads now.


You're just yet another bitter Rotherham fan...You ought to take a leaf out of Pete's book..Someone who actually knows what he's on about.

How many times have you seen Stevie May play this season btw?

[Katchouro]

Ally McCoist and Kris Boyd couldn't cut it in England so not surprised to see Stevie 'one season' Wonder struggle so badly.

To pay 7 figures for him on the back of a few goals in the league that Lyle Taylor terrorised was madness. We bought McNulty for a fraction of that and right now in terms of ability there isn't a cigarette papers worth of difference between the two.


It's looking like Gray will be losing his Head Coach position soon. This transfer will most likely be his biggest regret.

[braggyowl]

Rubbish!

Stevie will come good.

Think you could, and I stress, could be right about the other bit though if results don't pick up.

[hirstyboywonder]

Ally McCoist and Kris Boyd couldn't cut it in England so not surprised to see Stevie 'one season' Wonder struggle so badly.

To pay 7 figures for him on the back of a few goals in the league that Lyle Taylor terrorised was madness. We bought McNulty for a fraction of that and right now in terms of ability there isn't a cigarette papers worth of difference between the two.


It's looking like Gray will be losing his Head Coach position soon. This transfer will most likely be his biggest regret.

Didn't know £800,000 amounted to 7 figures. Would we have been much better off paying nearly double that for a full-back who was less than insp***tional in the recent defeat at Gillingham?

[Katchouro]

Not rubbish at all braggy. From what I’ve seen of May and the reports I’ve heard he just isn’t fit for the purpose he was bought for. Gray thought he was getting a lethal finisher but instead he’s bought a carthorse who has replaced quality for workrate and has all the subtlety of a baby elephant in sight of goal.
McNulty, though his pee is still green, is a better natural finisher than May. As their careers unfold I’ll be proven right on this.
The 7 figure deal you had to put together for May’s signature was ludicrous. With his contract running out he was worth no more than a 200k gamble. I’m afraid to tell you that Steve Evans has done a number on Wednesday, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had little interest in May but saw an opportunity to waste your entire spending kitty from the Antonio deal on this lame duck. Evans is as canny as he is obese.

Re the boywonder’s petulant, and repeated, attack on Brayford. Very poor. Brayford is a quality player and a quality human being …

[braggyowl]

It's all about opinions Katch...Mine is that May will come good and we'll be reverting back to this post when he starts knocking em in.

McNulty a better natural finisher than May...More rubbish, as we will find out!
They are leagues apart for a start so you shouldn't even be comparing them...But time will tell.

As for the fat bloke down the road...It p!ssed him off so much that we got Stevie he nearly ended up doing a Mr. Creosote and was fit to burst with his beetroot red face in anger...Just one more cracker eh.

I also heard a rumour that he put a cheeky bid in for our Steve during the JTW..

[Rotherhamowl10]

[quote="Katchouro"]Not rubbish at all braggy. From what I’ve seen of May and the reports I’ve heard he just isn’t fit for the purpose he was bought for. Gray thought he was getting a lethal finisher but instead he’s bought a carthorse who has replaced quality for workrate and has all the subtlety of a baby elephant in sight of goal.
McNulty, though his pee is still green, is a better natural finisher than May. As their careers unfold I’ll be proven right on this.
The 7 figure deal you had to put together for May’s signature was ludicrous. With his contract running out he was worth no more than a 200k gamble. I’m afraid to tell you that Steve Evans has done a number on Wednesday, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had little interest in May but saw an opportunity to waste your entire spending kitty from the Antonio deal on this lame duck. Evans is as canny as he is obese.

Re the boywonder’s petulant, and repeated, attack on Brayford. Very poor. Brayford

[Katchouro]

May has the quality and anyone who has watched him regularly can see that.

Bwahahahahah



His goal scoring record last season

In the Scottish Premiership. Just to put that into context Barry Robson, a mid 30s player who could barely moved left the Lane to go to Aberdeen and became one of the players of the season. It's an unbelievably poor standard up there.



you end up looking stupid

If anyone should know about looking stupid it's this guy. You swore blind the Mammadov takeover wold happen over a period of months and shouted down anyone who correctly disagreed with you.

I'm surprised after that farce you don't question your own judgment and defer to my, more than not, correct readings of the game.

[aussieowl]

May has the quality and anyone who has watched him regularly can see that.

Bwahahahahah



His goal scoring record last season

In the Scottish Premiership. Just to put that into context Barry Robson, a mid 30s player who could barely moved left the Lane to go to Aberdeen and became one of the players of the season. It's an unbelievably poor standard up there.



you end up looking stupid

I'm surprised after that farce you don't question your own judgment and defer to my, more than not, correct readings of the game.

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It's not hard to be correct when the right answers are as fluid as you make them...moved more goalposts than the ground keeper at Graves Park..;)

[banno]

i don't bother reading katch anymore he's gone all bitter and twisted since we beat them to promotion.
may has been our main attacking threat this season (barring the odd game from helan) and just needs a bit of luck to get a bit of a run going. most of the people that slate him haven't seen him play and are just looking at his goal figures (which can't be argued with and are poor).
i'm looking for big things from him next season, he needs to work on his speed and maybe his strength a bit but i'm sure he knows that already.

[Rotherhamowl10]

May has the quality and anyone who has watched him regularly can see that.

Bwahahahahah



His goal scoring record last season

In the Scottish Premiership. Just to put that into context Barry Robson, a mid 30s player who could barely moved left the Lane to go to Aberdeen and became one of the players of the season. It's an unbelievably poor standard up there.



you end up looking stupid

If anyone should know about looking stupid it's this guy. You swore blind the Mammadov takeover wold happen over a period of months and shouted down anyone who correctly disagreed with you.

I'm surprised after that farce you don't question your own judgment and defer to my, more than not, correct readings of the game.[/quote]

You mean by judging players you've 'apparently'

[braggyowl]

i don't bother reading katch anymore he's gone all bitter and twisted since we beat them to promotion.
may has been our main attacking threat this season (barring the odd game from helan) and just needs a bit of luck to get a bit of a run going. most of the people that slate him haven't seen him play and are just looking at his goal figures (which can't be argued with and are poor).
i'm looking for big things from him next season, he needs to work on his speed and maybe his strength a bit but i'm sure he knows that already.



Now that's what I'm talking about mate, well said and agree with the lot...Especially the "Katch...Phrase"...It's good, but it's not right..Roy Walker would be proud of him.

Stevie WILL start knocking em in and is worth every penny we paid for him..Simple as that really.

[braggyowl]

May has the quality and anyone who has watched him regularly can see that.

Bwahahahahah



His goal scoring record last season

In the Scottish Premiership. Just to put that into context Barry Robson, a mid 30s player who could barely moved left the Lane to go to Aberdeen and became one of the players of the season. It's an unbelievably poor standard up there.



you end up looking stupid

If anyone should know about looking stupid it's this guy. You swore blind the Mammadov takeover wold happen over a period of months and shouted down anyone who correctly disagreed with you.

I'm surprised after that farce you don't question your own judgment and defer to my, more than not, correct readings of the game.[/quot

[Katchouro]

So has May slipped below Keane, Bus and Nuhiu in the pecking order? Says it better than I could, Gray quite rightly has no faith in him.

BTW have the two balls landed that got skyed by Nuhiu landed yet? He makes me smile.


Seems strange that Madine and Lavry have been sent out on loan when both of them could offer you more than the misfiring May.

[braggyowl]

The "ball landed" jibe is truly cringeworthy Katch mi owd spunk bubble...You know as well as anyone that that honour belongs to Simmo...In yet another play off final DEFEAT...;)

[Ginger_Potts]

That Braggy , can probably never be beaten,the end to that season.
But if these Bacon Wearing Pork Pies don't get promotion this season it will be close...The Cup Specialist's. Q;D
:D & I ,like you,will pee pee my pants laughing...

[braggyowl]

Yep, we're gonna have to get some big nappies for that day Ginger! XD XD

[Rotherhamowl10]

So has May slipped below Keane, Bus and Nuhiu in the pecking order? Says it better than I could, Gray quite rightly has no faith in him.

BTW have the two balls landed that got skyed by Nuhiu landed yet? He makes me smile.


Seems strange that Madine and Lavry have been sent out on loan when both of them could offer you more than the misfiring May.

Jumping the gun again...

Keane and Bus are new editions and it's all about finding a partnership. I've not seen enough of Bus to comment, but Keane looked good. unfortunately he looks like he won't play again this season due to his injury.

Lavery and Madine need games so it makes sense for them to be out online.

[braggyowl]

You're wasting your time typing a sensible response to Katch Roth...He doesn't do sensible.

[Rotherhamowl10]

You're wasting your time typing a sensible response to Katch Roth...He doesn't do sensible.

Can only try to educate :)

It's hard to be sensible when your judgement is heavily clouded by your hatred for a rival team - to the point that you end up spouting idiotic predictions.

In Katch's world, you should judge all players after seeing them play a couple of times, and then compare them to a player you see play every week...

[millavanilla]

Well goals ratio to quids, i reckon he scored a valuable one for us tonight...free of charge...!..well done stevie...i knew youd come good...x x x

[braggyowl]

Having to rely on The Wednesday to keep you up..Whatever next...


Well done Stevie, plenty more to come..Number one post says it all.

Can't wait til next season.

[mahatmafoot]

He's c**p.

[braggyowl]

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

[Ginger_Potts]

Aye Braggy,
We need a afternoon snooze at our age.
So Katchapoopoo has his use for once.

Give a shout Sat for me mate,I'm on me Jollies.
Monday press conference ...fingers crossed.
& Stevie May will come good...no prob.

[Ginger_Potts]

Why do I keep mixing Katchapoopoo & Mahatma*** up every time,cos they are both aresholes ?
:D :D :D :D XD

[mahatmafoot]

You should change your first to P**s" matches your feeble writing efforts

[braggyowl]

Aye Braggy,
We need a afternoon snooze at our age.
So Katchapoopoo has his use for once.

Give a shout Sat for me mate,I'm on me Jollies.
Monday press conference ...fingers crossed.
& Stevie May will come good...no prob.


Will do Ginger...Enjoy your hols mate. :)

[mahatmafoot]

Monday Press Conference, if con man Mandrake can fool you, I'm sure the new Ladyboys will. Wonder what amount of profit he made on his fooling you dumbheads over the last few years. Totally deluded.

[braggyowl]

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[mcbrewer]

Monday Press Conference, if con man Mandrake can fool you, I'm sure the new Ladyboys will. Wonder what amount of profit he made on his fooling you dumbheads over the last few years. Totally deluded.Manderic did exactly what he said he would if he made a profit good luck to him


...and lets not mention game changing investment shall we unless a quid is game changing in the lower leagues because the only money that your Poundland Prince has sanctioned is the money from Maguire and the cup runs .
Just think next season you'll have the most expensive full back in the lower leagues... game changing indeed

[Katchouro]

Rov, put that massive online ego of yours to one side and admit what's clearly obvious. May is not Championship standard.


He'll be back in the SPL within 18 months.

[Rotherhamowl10]

Rov, put that massive online ego of yours to one side and admit what's clearly obvious. May is not Championship standard.


He'll be back in the SPL within 18 months.

yep, our joint second top scorer is not good enough...

As I've said previously, I watch him every week and can see what he's capable of.

Talking about SWFC player's you've written off, McGugan looked happy picking his February player of the month award up the other night XD

[Katchouro]

A goal every 5 games for a player brought in to be a goal poacher. About £200k for each goal it works out at.

That sounds like failure to me but Rov thinks its worthy of a ballon d'or win. :s

[braggyowl]

If you read post number one again it mentions Stevie knocking em in next season, which he will do.

The lad has got a bright future at Hillsborough to look forward to.

How's your million pound plus player going on Katch by the way...You know, the one they call the beard...Seems a waste of money to me tbh but that's just my opnion like.

Two defeats on the trotters for you boys as well to clubs that your fans consider "tin pot"...Not looking good at your end is it mate! ;)

Barnsley are looking good for promotion this season now...Might have a small wager on them winning the play offs and your shower not even making them.

Your car park will be bursting with oinkers if that happened wouldn't it Katch! XD

[Katchouro]

If you read post number one again it mentions Stevie knocking em in next season, which he will do.

That makes me think of that American saying - 'wish in one hand, **** in the other and see which one get's filled first'.

You don't pay a million quid for hope. If the Thai is going to invest in the squad and presumably Gray will be gone next season I wouldn't be surprised if May is shipped out on loan somewhere.


He's just not very good braggy. He looks like a very poor man's David Speedie instead of the goal poacher you thought you were buying.

[banno]

If you read post number one again it mentions Stevie knocking em in next season, which he will do.

That makes me think of that American saying - 'wish in one hand, **** in the other and see which one get's filled first'.

You don't pay a million quid for hope. If the Thai is going to invest in the squad and presumably Gray will be gone next season I wouldn't be surprised if May is shipped out on loan somewhere.


He's just not very good braggy. He looks like a very poor man's David Speedie instead of the goal poacher you thought you were buying.[/quote]





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[Katchouro]

You can just type 'bellend'. eg - banno the bellend likes polishing bellends.


I find your use of capital letters and over use of the enter key a little ostentatious me owd. ;)

[braggyowl]

If you read post number one again it mentions Stevie knocking em in next season, which he will do.

That makes me think of that American saying - 'wish in one hand, **** in the other and see which one get's filled first'.

You don't pay a million quid for hope. If the Thai is going to invest in the squad and presumably Gray will be gone next season I wouldn't be surprised if May is shipped out on loan somewhere.


He's just not very good braggy. He looks like a very poor man's David Speedie instead of the goal poacher you thought you were buying.[/quote]



Come off it Katch, he's a top class player and you know it...Next season he'll be banging the goals in just for the fun of it.
Like I've said, he's got a great future to look forward to at Hillsborough.

You're just a ****y bit p!ssed because Barnsley are gonna steal your place in the play offs...It's always been your weak spot K

[banno]

You can just type 'bellend'. eg - banno the bellend likes polishing bellends.


I find your use of capital letters and over use of the enter key a little ostentatious me owd. ;)





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[Rotherhamowl10]

Cult hero Brayford signs for £1 million and you ship in goals left, right and centre against poor sides...

I suppose he is now useless going by Katch's logic?

Coming from someone who dismissed McGugan as useless, I'd keep quiet on judging rival teams players I've seen play a couple of times...

[Katchouro]

Coming from someone who dismissed McGugan as useless.

Someone's pants are on fire. I said he was a luxury player and you were fine in central midfield as it is ... considering you lose as much as you win with him in the side and his work rate is poor I'm correct. Give him a comfy contract and then find out just what a luxury he is.


As for the Beard ... couple of sloppy displays but class always shines through and before long he'll be swashbuckling down the right proving why he's the most expensive signing currently playing in Sheffield.

And May's still garbage.

[banno]

Coming from someone who dismissed McGugan as useless.

Someone's pants are on fire. I said he was a luxury player and you were fine in central midfield as it is ... considering you lose as much as you win with him in the side and his work rate is poor I'm correct. Give him a comfy contract and then find out just what a luxury he is.


As for the Beard ... couple of sloppy displays but class always shines through and before long he'll be swashbuckling down the right proving why he's the most expensive signing currently playing in Sheffield.

And May's still garbage.[/quote]




the most expensive maybe, however he wouldn't get in our side.
money well spent XD XD XD XD
what a set of tails you support :)
one thing i'm sure we will agree on, THE WEDNESDAY look like being the dominant force in sheffield for a long long time !

[PeteWaller]

Coming from someone who dismissed McGugan as useless.

Someone's pants are on fire. I said he was a luxury player and you were fine in central midfield as it is ... considering you lose as much as you win with him in the side and his work rate is poor I'm correct. Give him a comfy contract and then find out just what a luxury he is.


As for the Beard ... couple of sloppy displays but class always shines through and before long he'll be swashbuckling down the right proving why he's the most expensive signing currently playing in Sheffield.

And May's still garbage.[/quote]

Millers will have im then Katch!

[braggyowl]

"and May's still garbage" ffs Katch...Desperate posting yet again.

And Pete...You now know why I don't post on your board as often don't you mate.


Some proper keyboard warriors int ther..XD XD

[Rotherhamowl10]

Coming from someone who dismissed McGugan as useless.

Someone's pants are on fire. I said he was a luxury player and you were fine in central midfield as it is ... considering you lose as much as you win with him in the side and his work rate is poor I'm correct. Give him a comfy contract and then find out just what a luxury he is.


As for the Beard ... couple of sloppy displays but class always shines through and before long he'll be swashbuckling down the right proving why he's the most expensive signing currently playing in Sheffield.

And May's still garbage.[/quote]

You labeled him as a 'waste of a signing', yet he's probably one of the signings of the season for us!

His work rate is poor? Again, how can someone who doesn't regular see him play possibly say such a thing?

He's top priority for me in the summer and his second spell with us has really impressed me.

[Katchouro]

Gray proclaiming that May should have 12/13 goals instead of the paltry meagre pathetic 7 he's managed.

He's rubbish - even McBrewer thinks so.

[braggyowl]

Meanwhile over at crappy down town bum hole stain negative Nige is getting stick from every angle from the fickle piggy's.

Your fans are turning against him Katch...I've told you many times he's taking you nowhere...

You aren't going up this season because you're not good enough.
If you do manage to finish in the play offs, you will give us our seasonal laugh at you once again.
There is so so so much wrong at your club Katch..But hey, you keep thinking Stevie May's a rubbish player if it makes you feel better.


oops almost forgot...UP THE TYKES.

A proper Yorkshire club that haven't spent millions on rubbish defenders with beards. >;)

[PeteWaller]

I'm waiting and hoping that we at RUFC can get him. Let's hope Wednesday spend big dosh that makes him superfluous to requirements. I know he's bought a house in the area so all the settling in pains are history. This lad will come good and I would love him at NYS.

How's life in League 1 mate?

And before you say it, no we are not going down to join you ;D ;D

[braggyowl]

Katch is only jealous Pete cos they paid more for a crap defender with a very ugly looking beard than we did for a top notch striker in Stevie boy.

Chuffin ell Pete looks like you could be playing our reserves next week!
Two more injuries yesterday...Palmer got stretchered off and Will Keane went off..Both ended up on crutches I heard. :blue:

That's Palmer, Keane, Semedo and Zayatte out with Glenn Loovens who's out for the season along with Sergiu Bus.

Really hope we recall Lavery back from Chezzy as cover up front.

Still think Stevie's gonna get the winner though mate. ;D

[PeteWaller]

Katch is only jealous Pete cos they paid more for a crap defender with a very ugly looking beard than we did for a top notch striker in Stevie boy.

Chuffin ell Pete looks like you could be playing our reserves next week!
Two more injuries yesterday...Palmer got stretchered off and Will Keane went off..Both ended up on crutches I heard. :blue:

That's Palmer, Keane, Semedo and Zayatte out with Glenn Loovens who's out for the season along with Sergiu Bus.

Really hope we recall Lavery back from Chezzy as cover up front.

Still think Stevie's gonna get the winner though mate. ;D

We don't like playing reserves Braggy. When we played Bournemouth in the FA Cup, they put out their reserves and gave us a good spankin.

We blew it against Wigan who were a poor team but their two free kicks were excellent and now we are back in the drop pot. Should have been well clear but watching Rotherham Braggy is just like watching England, I tell ya

[hirstyboywonder]

Gray proclaiming that May should have 12/13 goals instead of the paltry meagre pathetic 7 he's managed.

He's rubbish - even McBrewer thinks so.

Gray is right, May has mid some sitters and been unfortunate a few times - like the effort that hit the inside of both posts and didn't go in.

He still has plenty to prove in my opinion but if he can have a good finish to the season and get into double figures then it will have been a decent crack at his first season at this level.
You would love the opportunity for any of your players to get the cance to score 7 goals in the Championship, shame they have only helped you to win 1 in 6 in the 3rd division as you watch Bristol and Preston disappear over the summit.

Are you surprised how quickly the fans (and the manager) have turned on the bearded icon?

[braggyowl]

Should be a good game Pete, whoever plays.

It'll be nice for our lads to actually play on grass rather than summert that resembles Blackpool beach tbh mate. :)

[Katchouro]

Are you surprised how quickly the fans (and the manager) have turned on the bearded icon?

Very surprised. The people I go/sit with at the games haven't turned and neither have those I chat with. "John was as poor as anyone" hardly counts as a turn from our gaffer does it? If you want an example of a manager turning just look at how disgracefully Laws treated his captain Richard Wood when he turned on him over not resigning his contract.

Who are these 'fans' you're referring to? I do hope you're not forming opinions based on five or six Bladesmadders. My buddy Rov has pulled me up for similar behaviour.



But then again the Boy Wonder might be right, after all his interest in, and knowledge of, all things Blades related isn't far off that of my own.

[PeteWaller]

At least that's being fixed for next season Braggy.

Funny, as a fan, I don't really understand why yours and other pitches e.g. Blackpool and last night at Reading are so bad With the things available today, you'd think that would be a thing of the past and only seen on old Match of the Days clips. Obviously more to it than that, probably drainage issues.

Would be embarrassing to lose big style to our near neighbours on Saturday but if we go 2 up I still wouldn't rule out a loss.

We shall see ..

[Rotherhamowl10]

At least that's being fixed for next season Braggy.

Funny, as a fan, I don't really understand why yours and other pitches e.g. Blackpool and last night at Reading are so bad With the things available today, you'd think that would be a thing of the past and only seen on old Match of the Days clips. Obviously more to it than that, probably drainage issues.

Would be embarrassing to lose big style to our near neighbours on Saturday but if we go 2 up I still wouldn't rule out a loss.

We shall see ..

Our pitch has been neglected financially. A couple of the groundsman walked in the summer because they were fed up with the lack of financial support.

[braggyowl]

Yeah we'll see Pete...Owt can happen in these games mate.
And yeah Roth you who could blame them tbh..
The floods didn't help neither with the under soil heating etc..There must be miles of pipes under there that were affected...No wonder it's gonna cost a fortune to put right.

[ParkgateMiller]

As for the fat bloke down the road...It p!ssed him off so much that we got Stevie he nearly ended up doing a Mr. Creosote and was fit to burst with his beetroot red face in anger...Just one more cracker eh? ...


Ha! Well, we know someone fit to burst with a Vimto face in anger ... so there Braggy me owd china!

[braggyowl]

I'll be laughing later on today though Parkgate...Hopefully. :)

[ParkgateMiller]

Hope you're wrong Braggy!

PS

Stevie who?

UTM

[Katchouro]

With May's departure to PNE I think it's fair to say this is another one I called right. The May signing was an abject failure - a gamble that Gray got wrong.

Hindsight is a powerful tool but rov and braggy's comments on this thread are hilarious. They couldn't have been more wrong if they tried.

[braggyowl]

nobody's perfect.

Apart from you of course.

If May had been given more of a chance, you'd have looked like you always do on here.Thick as fck!

He'll score for fun at Preston....Let's wait and see.

[Rotherhamowl10]

If I remember correctly that 'hindsight' of Katch's claimed that paying £800k for May was madness and that he is worth no more than 200k - But Preston have just paid us a reported initial fee of 800K with a number of future add-ons (up to £2 million reported in the link).

Looks like you've been a bit premature (not for the first time eh?) in patting yourself on the back with this one Katch....

As for May, time will tell if he has the quality to succeed in this league - which I believe he will. Sadly, he didn't fit in to CC plans but we've got a good deal for him.

By the way, I see Marc McNulty is no longer in the first team squad for SUFC, you know, the striker you claimed to be better than May - wonder why Preston didn't offer the blades £800k + considering he's 'apparently' a much better play than May....

[Katchouro]

If May wants to succeed at Championship level braggy he'll need to revaluate his playing style. He approached games during his time with Wednesday as a straight up battle with his centre back ... and he just didn't have the right level of physicality to be able to perform, your average Championship centre back would be rubbing his hands together in preparation of bullying May for 90 minutes. Now with the right coaching he could turn out to be half decent striker, but you have to wonder whether he has the right amount of guile and intelligence of say a Billy Sharp to really get 15+ goals a season at Championship level.


Now on to rov ... and I don't even know where to start with post 68. You'd have to have had a lobotomy to think that PNE will end up paying £2 million for May, that's crazy talk. Who exactly is leaking these transfer figures? The same person lying about the Hooper corporate box demand? As for McNulty, I said he's a better natural finisher, which I still mainta

[aussieowl]

"but you have to wonder whether he has the right amount of guile and intelligence of say a Billy Sharp to really get 15+ goals a season at Championship level."

Billy Sharp has only ever averaged 10 goals a season at Championship level....I think Stevie May will better that by the time he's finished...good luck t'lad anyway, I'd have liked to seen more of him at ours.

[Rotherhamowl10]

What have I got wrong? I rate a player, which I have seen play a lot more than yourself, and I believe he has a lot of promising potential (as do professionals in the game such as Strachan, Grayson and Evans).

You've written him off (after just one season), pretty much because of your hatred for the team he played for. Now your claiming to have been right on May because we've sold him? Despite us selling him for £800k + (remember saying we had massively overpaid for him?) and to another Championship club - a league you stated he wasn't good enough to play in.

RE: £2 million fee - http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/done-deal-preston-sign-scotland-international/

It would be stupid for me to comment further on McNulty as I've never seen him play. Just wondered why PNE signed May when you claimed McNulty was a better option? SUFC must have been rejecting bids left, right and centre on deadline day for the lad....

As for egos, they come no bigger than your own Katch - despite me

[Katchouro]

Billy Sharp averaged 0.4 goals a game in the Championship, May averaged 0.2 goals per game. These include substitute appearances so their goal to minutes ratio would be more favourable. On the basis of Sharp playing 40 games a season he would likely score between 16 and 20 goals considering his average.


Well if it's on footballleagueworld.co.uk it must be true. Stop digging rov, instead of taking counsel from me and others who criticised May and questioned whether he would make it in a Wednesday shirt you made outlandish predictions. You were wrong, I was right - you should be used to that by now.

[Rotherhamowl10]

I see you've totally ignored the questions I put to you, AGAIN! You would make an excellent politician, Katch - ignore the questions and solely focus on the point you think you've got right, then just keep repeating it to 'move the goal posts' away from your mistake.

You asked where it was REPORTED, I showed you where it was REPORTED - Never did I say it was fact or true. You really need to concentrate when reading my posts, you're just making stuff up and claiming I've said things I haven't. Desperation at its finest.

So you was right on McNulty, right on May not been worth more than 200K and now you're claiming Sharp would score more goals than May in the Championship based on average goals per Championship appearance, despite Sharp playing a lot more games than May. Brilliant XD

As I said, you'd make a great politician - I'm sure the monster raving loony party would suit you perfectly!

[Katchouro]

The stats I have provided show that Sharp (dependant on variables) would score more in the Championship than May. I think even Stevie's Mam and Dad would agree.

What you've done wrong rov is jump in with both feet making a premature judgement - just like you did with McGugan. And then being too rigid to alter your stance when all the evidence points to you being wrong.

Learn from your mistakes and be a little patient next time - and take notice of what your pal Katch is saying, he won't steer you wrong.

[PeteWaller]

PNE have got a good in IMO. I don't really think he could have come to us Millers having turned us down. SE would eventually have given him pay back and a good few of our fans would also have found it difficult to take. Having said that, most fans have taken to Mattock, Buxton and because of lack of game time less so to Maguire, so maybe May could have settled. Problem I see for May joining us is our hoof ball style of play would never suit him. Doesn't suit me either but seems we are stuck with it presently. With PNE I see May going from strength to strength. Definitely a channels man and with the strike force PNE having, he will blossom. Hope he does coz he always appeared to give a full shift when played.

[braggyowl]

spot on Pete.

If he's a regular starter for Preston the goals will come.
The amount of times he made loads of space for himself with us, and then not get passed too was very frustrating.
He seemed as if he was too intelligent for a few of our players and you could see it got to him when the ball wasn't delivered.
he was also very unlucky on a number of occasions, frequently hitting the bar and post.

imo Preston have got one hell of a player that will only get better and better...Just a pity he never really got going with us due to the lack of game time.

I wish him all the best..He's still only young and he's got a good future to look forward too.

[Katchouro]

That's a glowing appraisal for a player with such a poor record for Wednesday bragster. You make him sound like a young Batistuta. Are you saying that players like Maguire, Lee and McGugan lack the intelligence to play with May?

The Wednesday boo boys aren't as kind as you and they'll give him pelters when he visits the Sty. Ear plugs at the ready if he scores.

[aussieowl]

"The Wednesday boo boys aren't as kind as you and they'll give him pelters when he visits the Sty. Ear plugs at the ready if he scores."

I don't think he'll get heaps from those who like to boo, he was well respected & always put a shift in when he played, as braggy says he was also unlucky, he must have hit the woodwork more than any other striker in the division...it also depends on his reaction if he scores against us, if he gives it a large in front of our fans then yes he'll definitely get it back, if he does what Kenwyne Jones has always done then he won't.

[Katchouro]

We'll see aussie. He seemed to provide effort and endeavour but more than a few just didn't take to him because of his poor scoring record - it's those that will be doing the booing.


Speaking of strikers, you've been critical of him in the past - harshly so imo, but big well done to Wayne Rooney, cracking achievement for England to become the out and out top goal scorer.





Edit; just read your post on Bladesmad aussie - seems you're still not a fan of Wazza. Very harsh to not just give the guy unconditional praise tonight.

[aussieowl]

Yes maybe I should have just said well done & left it at that, I was going to but it was really my admiration of Bobby Charlton that pushed me to post what I did.

Rooney deserves the plaudits, 50 goals in 107 games is pretty good going, even if penalties don't count..;) ....yer see, I'm doing it again, I just can't seem to lavish young Wayne unconditionally, don't know why for sure, maybe I just think he's a bit of a tosser, plus that awful Scouse accent, why are there two Scouse accents...there's the one like Gerrard's & Rooney's that grate on the teeth, then there's the Beatles accent which is quite charming, any idea?

PS...no really, very well done Wayne...

[Katchouro]

I don't know how much of that is actual jest aussie. You never miss a chance to have a dig at Rooney, and you're not alone - much of the praise he's getting is through gritted teeth. Ray from the Batcave dedicated a full thread to what a toerag Rooney is and the opinion of him is always mixed on Bladesmad.

With Rooney it's going to be a case that you don't realise what you've got until it's gone. He's the most complete attacking player I've seen in an England shirt. I've a feeling Rooney might be one of the star performers in France - I won't tempt fate by saying we can win the thing, but reaching the semis is a very achievable target.

Believe, aussie - Believe. Ashes + Rugby World Cup + Euros

[aussieowl]

I think what it comes down to is this, yes I think Rooney is a great player, not world class but certainly the best option England have as a striker & has been for some time, do I think he deserves credit for the 50 goals?, yes I do, it's a great achievement especially as he's not always played the striker role BUT, yes the dreaded but & there always is one with Rooney...he's a nob, at least that's how he comes across, of course I don't really know what he's like but he certainly gives off a being a prat vibe...I want him to do well for England because I want England to do well, I hope he scores the winner in a major final but I just can't warm to him, it's like somehow he doesn't deserve to be that good, of course he might wholly deserve everything he's got, it's just the impression I've got of him that's all.

As for him being a star performer in France I'll have to disagree, just can't see him doing it when it matters, something will upset him & his game will suffer, again, hope I

[Katchouro]

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You're in good company aussie. Bladesmad favourite Curtis seemed apoplectic that Rooney had broken the record.

Listen, I don't think Rooney is human being of the year, but he's a quality footballer. And for all the criticism he gets he'd be a starter for most national teams, I can only think of Argentina and Uruguay where he might be on the bench. All the European nations, including the World Champions would have him in the starting line up.

When the likes of Vardy and Lambert are getting caps we should hope Rooney keeps playing as long as possible - he's just 18 games away from breaking Shilton's record.

[aussieowl]

I don't think anyone would doubt he's a quality footballer, certainly the best England can muster, however, you must have a different perception than me of what it means to be world class, he's had three goes at the world cup now & has failed in all of them, world class players, even in mediocre teams like England tend to shine on the biggest stages, Rooney tends to stuff up.

I DO hope he keeps playing as long as possible, simple reason he's the best we have, maybe others will come up to the plate, players like Kane, early days for him yet though.

Talking of being world class, I don't think England have ANY that fit that bill, you need at least one in the right position & most likely three to have any real chance of lifting one of the two trophies that mean something for us...in all honesty I can't see England ever again winning the world cup, we should have won it in 1970 had Ramsey not taken off Bobby Charlton to 'save' him for the semi.

[Katchouro]

We had a great chance in 1990 as well. But a 40 year old goalkeeper on the decline cost us, mind you Woods would have been worse - David Seamen should have been established as the number one going into the tournament, but for sentimental reasons Robson stuck with Shilton.

'World class' is one of those terms that is liberally used and very objective. Rooney has a sack full of domestic trophys, International caps/goals and three European Cup final campaigns ... he's the real deal aussie. By your standards we can't judge Best, Litmanen, Giggs, Billy McNeill, Weah, Raul, Wynton Rufer, Ibrahimovic ect as world class - and Ronaldo hasn't been pulling up any trees in recent tournaments either. It's granted that Big Tri Dellas is world class but how many more from that 2004 Greek side? The Danish 1992 squad? Even the Germany 96 winners? International football is about the team and how it gels together, play to Rooney's strengths and support him and he'll perform. In Spain, with all t

[aussieowl]

I think you're right about it being the team & gelling together but more often than not a team that wins the big tournaments have world class players in it, as for Greece 2004, I think the 1970's Owls team would have won it with the luck they had.

I thought before I'd finished typing the last reply that you'd throw Giggs & Best at me & I suppose I set myself up for it, I suppose that whatever certain players might have won with any team they can still be judged subjectively, fans opinions vary greatly in spite of medals hanging off any players neck & leaving out my tarnished view of Rooney as a human being I really don't think he's the full article, something is missing.

I may be living in some kind of football time warp which doesn't allow for modern footballers, well, Messi aside that is but, players like Best & Charlton just don't exist in British football anymore...in more recent times we've had players like Scholes, Beckham & Ashley Cole who I would say were world class but

[Katchouro]

The Best and Giggs left and right, a staple of the 'world class' debate.

Rooney is in that elite group of international footballers. Other than that England are struggling, but some players have potential - Shaw could emerge as an accomplished attacking left back, Stirling if he can improve his decision making and delivery is a tremendous prospect, Hart is looking the best he's looked since he first became City's number one and Sturridge, provided he can avoid injury, is a striker who'll score against the best of defences.

A big problem we have in England is integrating young players into starting lineups ... something they do much better in Europe, particularly Germany. All their under 21 players are club first teamers and new first teamers like Hector and Bellarabi, two players you wouldn't class as world class are key players at their clubs and can just slot into the Germany team.

I'll pick on Chelsea here, Jacob Mellis played at the Lane today, a player than when he w