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great_fire
04-07-2016, 11:38 AM
Heard a lot of stuff about how the Welsh team is actually English and investigated, here is the squad:

Hennessey- Bangor
Ward- Wrexham
Fon Williams - Penygroes (Wales)
Richards - Wrexham
Davies - Neath
Gunter - Newport
Collins - Newport
Chester - Warrington
A. Williams - Wolverhampton
Taylor - Ruthin (Wales)
Allen - Carmarthen
Edwards - Pontesbury (Shropshire)
Ledley - Cardiff
Ramsay - Caerphily
Vaughn - Abergele (Wales)
J. Williams - Pembury (Kent)
King - Barnstable
G. Williams - Milton Keynes
Robson-Kanu - London
Cotterill - Cardiff
Church - Amersham (Bucks)
Bale - Cardiff
Vokes - Southhampton

So that's 14 out of 23 who are Welsh, the squad is therefore 61% Welsh.

As for the team who beat Belgium, 8 out of the starting line-up were Welsh, so that's 73% Welsh.

Out of the 14 players who played against Belgium, 9 out of 14 were Welsh, so that's 64% Welsh.

The 3 scorers against Belgium were all born in England, therefore 0% Welsh.

So there you have it, the Welsh tean are more Welsh than people are saying, certainly more so than a lot of ROI teams over the years.

John2
04-07-2016, 12:16 PM
It is also based on the simplistic assumption that nationality is determined solely by country of birth.

What if you moved to the US where your child was born and raised to be a passionate England fan. They've supported the England national team, and become good enough at sport that they get to choose between the US and England - they choose the latter, despite never having lived there. Isn't that their choice and how it should be?

Whilst some of the Wales players no doubt supported England and would have chosen the England team given the option, there are others who will have been born in England but identify more with Wales.

fc_miller
04-07-2016, 02:18 PM
Kari would be Swedish on this basis.
How does this work for immigrants and their children born in England?

fc_miller
04-07-2016, 02:26 PM
How about these 'English' players
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_England_international_footballers_born_out side_England