This cancer wonder drug.

[Buc]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3361800/We-t-afford-new-cancer-wonder-drugs-warns-NICE-Watchdog-rules-revolutionary-treatment-shrink-tumours-months-not-available-England-Wales.html


I'd love the NHS to be able to afford to give everyone the drug they need to live a life free of pain free of cancer .

But as my R/A specialist says R/A alone giving everyone the drug to make their life pain free would indeed bankrupt the NHS .

As he says it's prioritising.
Unfortunately.

I often feel that drug companies overcharge but obviously they have an important role to play especially with an aging population worldwide.
What do you lads think

[Pacman1903]

I will agree drug companies are a rip off.

On the subject of shrinking tumours.Mrs Pacs read alot on Brocolli doing the same sort of thing. She passes what she reads on to me.There have been alot of people who have eating a bowl of brocolli soup for lunch and have brocolli with every meal for a month or more and their tumours have shrunk significantly up to 60 odd percent, in some cases making them operable when they werent before. Some of the stuff ibread was quite amazing. Seeing MRIs/xrays of before and after was incredible.

Its high in sulphorofane which other veg have (kale, cauliflower) but brocolli is very high in it and it increases your bodys protective enzymes. An amazing wee plant

[Buc]

One thing if you are wealthy you can buy the drug . Maybe once we have all this expensive drugs that will cure everything and everyone

If you have the funds you will live to fight another day.

[Buc]

I will agree drug companies are a rip off.

On the subject of shrinking tumours.Mrs Pacs read alot on Brocolli doing the same sort of thing. She passes what she reads on to me.There have been alot of people who have eating a bowl of brocolli soup for lunch and have brocolli with every meal for a month or more and their tumours have shrunk significantly up to 60 odd percent, in some cases making them operable when they werent before. Some of the stuff ibread was quite amazing. Seeing MRIs/xrays of before and after was incredible.

Its high in sulphorofane which other veg have (kale, cauliflower) but brocolli is very high in it and it increases your bodys protective enzymes. An amazing wee plant

Glad I enjoy broccoli soup one of my favourites.

Yes indeed veggies are amazing food for the body the greener the better. But as we have an aging population cancer will become more to the fore .
And yes a good diet is a key to longer life .
Red meat is another that can pass on certain cancers like bowel cancer

[Pacman1903]

Glad I enjoy broccoli soup one of my favourites.

Yes indeed veggies are amazing food for the body the greener the better. But as we have an aging population cancer will become more to the fore .
And yes a good diet is a key to longer life .
Red meat is another that can pass on certain cancers like bowel cancer

Red meat is another thing that Mrs Pac knows alot about. It can cause bowel cancer among others. That is a fact but the amount you would have to eat on a weekly basis would be very high. Alot of people scare monger about it but in reality its not as bad as made out. Obviously there are people in this world who live off burgers everyday. They would be susceptible to it but other things too if thats the way they choose to eat. Each to their own though.

I have red meat once a week. More of a fish and chicken hoos. But i eat healthy, not especially deliberate. I eat what i enjoy. Just lucky i and the family enjoy healthy things. Its the booze that lets me down

Another superfood cancer battler is sweet tatties. Which is fine by me as we eat alot of them

But back on topic, you are correct, we are in an ageing population and it must be a nightmare for the already underfire NHS. I have sympathy with them. Actually did a project partly on this in 4th year modern studies and that was 17 years ago so can only be worse a generation on

[Buc]

Red meat is another thing that Mrs Pac knows alot about. It can cause bowel cancer among others. That is a fact but the amount you would have to eat on a weekly basis would be very high. Alot of people scare monger about it but in reality its not as bad as made out. Obviously there are people in this world who live off burgers everyday. They would be susceptible to it but other things too if thats the way they choose to eat. Each to their own though.

I have red meat once a week. More of a fish and chicken hoos. But i eat healthy, not especially deliberate. I eat what i enjoy. Just lucky i and the family enjoy healthy things. Its the booze that lets me down

Another superfood cancer battler is sweet tatties. Which is fine by me as we eat alot of them

But back on topic, you are correct, we are in an ageing population and it must be a nightmare for the already underfire NHS. I have sympathy with them. Actually did a project partly on this in 4th year modern studies and that was 17 years ago so can only be worse a generation on

The NHS is a massive hole that money pot can never be filled.

[kb_don]

The Daily Mail is obsessed with things that cause cancer, prevent cancer and both cause and prevent cancer.

Someone's tried to document it here:
http://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/

[Buc]

The Daily Mail is obsessed with things that cause cancer, prevent cancer and both cause and prevent cancer.

Someone's tried to document it here:
http://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/

That's a very good link .

[scobiemacd]

The Daily Mail is obsessed with things that cause cancer, prevent cancer and both cause and prevent cancer.

Someone's tried to document it here:
http://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/

Can you imagine how much cum would be flying in the Daily Mail office if they could print the headline " ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS CAUSE CANCER "

[donsdaft]

Why do people always take the most disgusting stuff in the world and then pretend it's good for you?

Broccoli for f'uck sake?

If humans were supposed to eat vegetables then nature would have made them fine.

Fruit, yes, good to eat.
Vegetables, f'uckin disgusting.
In particular, brassicas.
Not for human consumption

[ragnarok]

Why do people always take the most disgusting stuff in the world and then pretend it's good for you?

Broccoli for f'uck sake?

If humans were supposed to eat vegetables then nature would have made them fine.

Fruit, yes, good to eat.
Vegetables, f'uckin disgusting.
In particular, brassicas.
Not for human consumption

Actually the fact that our stomach can digest such a wide range of foods suggests that we've evolved to eat just about anything that can be eaten. The reason veggies are bowfing is that when you're scraping by on just enough food to survive as our prehistoric ancestors did, you have better things to do than sit around munching on vast quantities of low calorie foods all day. If they'd had easy access to rowies and scotch pies we might have evolved somewhat differently.

Although apparently there have been studies into an all meat diet and the subjects didn't show any adverse effects.

[Buc]

Actually the fact that our stomach can digest such a wide range of foods suggests that we've evolved to eat just about anything that can be eaten. The reason veggies are bowfing is that when you're scraping by on just enough food to survive as our prehistoric ancestors did, you have better things to do than sit around munching on vast quantities of low calorie foods all day. If they'd had easy access to rowies and scotch pies we might have evolved somewhat differently.

Although apparently there have been studies into an all meat diet and the subjects didn't show any adverse effects.


These studies weren't sponsored by the farmers association..:)

Anything is possible similar with the sugar findings back in the 60s if I mind right Coke a cola was involved we that one.

[Buc]

I realise it's now known but here's a we read about the scientific results

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1113415810/sugar-industry-corruption-091316/

[Buc]

As for red meat here's the advice from the NHS

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/red-meat.aspx

Mind you I'm not telling anyone what to eat each to their own.

[Oslo_Don]

The NHS is a massive hole that money pot can never be filled.

The NHS is one of the greatest things Britain has ever achieved. It's ***** that adequate funding is available, whether through increased NI or Tax. We must avoid a private health care at all costs.

I live in the US and have serious health issues. I am fortunate that my employer has fantastic health insurance, so I get all the excellent care I need. But not everybody is so lucky. Many people in my situation here get a much lower standard of care; including not getting the same care options as me. As my doctors tell me, if they can't afford the medication then they won't get the treatment. They will be treated to keep them alive though. In the UK everybody gets the required care, it's a fantastic system.