Today's Greet

[stewarty27]

Scotland's Union Dividend

Share O Trident costs ...£200 M
Contribution to England only H2O... £90 M
Contribution to London Sewage system £300M
Contribution to Westminster refurbishment ..£250M
Contribution to London Cross Rail £450 M
Share of UKs £1.6 Trillion debt..£300 Billion
Contribution to the House of Lords £650 M

Total 12. 390 Billion

[noahrab]

Scotland's Union Dividend

Share O Trident costs ...£200 M
Contribution to England only H2O... £90 M
Contribution to London Sewage system £300M
Contribution to Westminster refurbishment ..£250M
Contribution to London Cross Rail £450 M
Share of UKs £1.6 Trillion debt..£300 Billion
Contribution to the House of Lords £650 M

Total 12. 390 Billion

Them basturd English.

And you believe that shyte XD XD XD

Plenty figures...but nothing when asked how an iScotland's balance sheet would look going forward.

Standard.

[JackSnakes]

Them basturd English.

And you believe that shyte XD XD XD

Plenty figures...but nothing when asked how an iScotland's balance sheet would look going forward.

Standard.

£12bn better off by the looks of it...

[noahrab]

£12bn better off by the looks of it...

Wee stuarty needs to learn to count.

He's got us owing 300billion as part of the UK's debt.

[Taintedice]

The economic argument for independence would have been clearer in 1999 but Scots were happy with the Toytown Parliament and the opportunity was lost. Never going to happen now.

[JackSnakes]

The economic argument for independence would have been clearer in 1999 but Scots were happy with the Toytown Parliament and the opportunity was lost. Never going to happen now.

Not sure if full independence is that wonderful an idea to be honest.
I would personally prefer full fiscal autonomy - all the money Scotland makes, Scotland keeps and Scotland spends.
I would still pay into a combined armed forces, combined postal service, health service, DVLA etc but in every other case, all Scotland spends is what Scotland earns.

[Taintedice]

Full independence is a wonderful idea but has there ever been a precedent where the population were doing ok for themselves and then risked it all by going it alone. Scotland needs the rUK market, can you imagine if there was to be a different currency, Scotland would be drained as most folk would send their money to rUK banks.

[stewarty27]

Wee stuarty needs to learn to count.

He's got us owing 300billion as part of the UK's debt.

Sorry Paddy its actually Westminsters Debt, On record they have taken full responsibility for that (keep up min) Scotland could walk away from that if we were a bunch O C***ts like you keep referring to us. But fairs fair even with our share of that debt. We'd still be better off. Our GDP is better !! look it up you wee flat nosed squat man :O

[stewarty27]

The economic argument for independence would have been clearer in 1999 but Scots were happy with the Toytown Parliament and the opportunity was lost. Never going to happen now.

Wee steps at a time. The scottish people are on a journey. Lies are now being exposed, The economic argument is still strong ! and that ultimately will persuade the Scottish people. WE ARE A WEALTHY COUNTRY that's a fact check it oot min.

[noahrab]

Sorry Paddy its actually Westminsters Debt, On record they have taken full responsibility for that (keep up min) Scotland could walk away from that if we were a bunch O C***ts like you keep referring to us. But fairs fair even with our share of that debt. We'd still be better off. Our GDP is better !! look it up you wee flat nosed squat man :O

So if an iScotland started with 300BILLION of debt.......we'd still be better off XD XD XD

[Taintedice]

Wee steps at a time. The scottish people are on a journey. Lies are now being exposed, The economic argument is still strong ! and that ultimately will persuade the Scottish people. WE ARE A WEALTHY COUNTRY that's a fact check it oot min.it's too late now, the oil has been squandered, too many English are living in the country. They are not going to vote for independence, perhaps the polish will down to Engxit. The numbers will never be on the side of independence. You can't ignore that people living in scotland voted No by 55-45, you can't.

[JackSnakes]

it's too late now, the oil has been squandered, too many English are living in the country. They are not going to vote for independence, perhaps the polish will down to Engxit. The numbers will never be on the side of independence. You can't ignore that people living in scotland voted No by 55-45, you can't.

Considering that for most of my lifetime it has been about 75-25 against, it is understandable that the indies believe their support is increasing. It is hard to argue

[Bodie80]

it's too late now, the oil has been squandered, too many English are living in the country. They are not going to vote for independence, perhaps the polish will down to Engxit. The numbers will never be on the side of independence. You can't ignore that people living in scotland voted No by 55-45, you can't. Great post and very true Taintedice :)
Unfortunately the SNP are ignoring the 55% and going on with their separatist agenda instead of running the country to the best of their ability, chunts :mad:

[Bodie80]

Considering that for most of my lifetime it has been about 75-25 against, it is understandable that the indies believe their support is increasing. It is hard to argue It reached its peak and is now on the slide :)
I was reading yesterday that Ruth Davidson and Theresa May are now more popular than Sturgeon which is not surprising as people are now seeing her for what she really is. Very pleasing :)

[JackSnakes]

It reached its peak and is now on the slide :)
I was reading yesterday that Ruth Davidson and Theresa May are now more popular than Sturgeon which is not surprising as people are now seeing her for what she really is. Very pleasing :)

You should stay away from followfollow...

[stewarty27]

it's too late now, the oil has been squandered, too many English are living in the country. They are not going to vote for independence, perhaps the polish will down to Engxit. The numbers will never be on the side of independence. You can't ignore that people living in scotland voted No by 55-45, you can't.

Taintedice. Scotland has a very diverse economy and fantastic potential. Even without oil we are a very viable country. I agree the oil resources has been squandered. But they say there is up to 40 year of oil left. there are massive fields west of Shetland untouched the Clyde estuary. And the whole point of Indy is to be able to manage our own economy and do it better.

The English living here did mainly vote No but they can be persuaded but we must get our arguments right this time. Sure there are also the land of hope and glory types who will stand alongside the rule Brittania hun. but in the greater scheme of things they are a small minority.

Nobody is ignoring those who voted no in 2014. But thing have changed significantly and many who did vote no are feeling they have been betrayed and conned. You cant expect to tell a whole Nation a load of bullsh1t as better together did and then renege on almost every single one of the promises. If people of Scotland are happy and excepting of that then they really don't deserve Independence.

[Taintedice]

The polls aren't changing, whether people really care about broken promises or not, the people who could be persuaded to change to Yes need to be convinced on the basics like currency and what relationship iScotland would have with rUK. I can't believe many Scots care that much about the EU, bunch oh whanks that they are.

[noahrab]

The polls aren't changing, whether people really care about broken promises or not, the people who could be persuaded to change to Yes need to be convinced on the basics like currency and what relationship iScotland would have with rUK. I can't believe many Scots care that much about the EU, bunch oh whanks that they are.


Good post.

Dafties like wee stuarty think things like currency and the economy don't matter.