Tom Anderson...

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I think we have found the answer to our need for another centre half.

Local lad, dying to wear the shirt, been out on loan, got the experience and earned his place in the EPL squad. Great stuff! :D

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[CaspertheClaret]

Good stuff and well done Tom. (See ya later BT!!!)

[oldcolner]

Was good last night v PNE and got the full 90 mins.
Well done Tom

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Good stuff and well done Tom. (See ya later BT!!!)

Looking forward to it Casper!

[thedonz]

There's optimism and blind optimism

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Jeez donzy! We need to meet up again pal and then I can talk a bit of sense into you!

These lads are professional footballers with all of their careers in front of them.

Do you honestly think the likes of Anderson are not going to give it all they have got when they get the opportunity?

Long and Tarkowski will be doing their very utmost to keep hold of that shirt once they have it, of that I am certain.

...and having watched professional football for 58 years I think they are both good enough to play at the top table of English football.

No good moaning about lack of players breaking through our youth ranks unless we give our youngsters like Tom Anderson a chance?

Wetherspoons - Saturday? :D

[sinkov]

There's optimism and blind optimism

And then there's lunacy, if Tom and Kevin are the answers then we're asking the wrong questions. Sometimes when I read a thread I check the date, to make sure it's not April 1st. This is one that required a check.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Crikey Moses sinkov! We have an Eire international along with Tarkowski and a kid on the verge of a major breakthrough.

How good does it have to get?

[CaspertheClaret]

How is O'Neill shaping up - I know he is a midfielder but there was high hopes for this lad at the beginning of last season

[The Bedlington Terrier]

He is behind Westwood, Brady, Gudmundsson, Arfield, Defour, Hendrick, Marney & Ulvestad and he can only benefit from that!

[sinkov]

Crikey Moses sinkov! We have an Eire international along with Tarkowski and a kid on the verge of a major breakthrough.

How good does it have to get?

The kid's 24 in September BT, he's been with us since he was in nappies and he's still nowhere near the first team. If he keeps developing at this rate it's a toss up which he'll get first, his PL debut or his old age pension.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Squads are built in layers sinkov. I hope he can break through this season, just to disappoint one or two on here. :(

[sinkov]

Squads are built in layers sinkov. I hope he can break through this season, just to disappoint one or two on here. :(

Who are the one or two who will be disappointed BT, or are you making that up ? I for one will be delighted if Tom breaks through into the first team this season, while also being very surprised, so who are you talking about ?

I can remember Tom starting centre-half for us in that pre-season game at Accy when we went 3-0 down inside 10 minutes. At 3pm Sean was sat relaxed in the sunshine, all shirtsleeves and smiles, at 3.10 he was prowling the touchline and looking ready to explode.
I thought that might have been the end of Tom, but no he's still here, so who knows. It's a long shot though isn't it realistically at his age, good luck to the lad, but history is against him making it with us now.

[Altobelli]

Squads are built in layers sinkov. I hope he can break through this season, just to disappoint one or two on here. :(

I'm sure BT's comment was aimed at myself for one of the two Sinkov.

It makes me sound negative about prospects already here, not to mention the lack of "marquee" signings.

Regardless of what folk on here think nothing could be further from the truth.

I have carried Burnley Football Club on my back like a hump for years through thick and thin (mostly thin), and nothing will ever change that, I'm not a lover of Football but I do Love Burnley Football Club.

I speak as I find whoever that may upset or anger, as in last season, I was wrong with my prediction of Burnley being lucky to survive, survive they did but with a few very bad games and a few more with terrible performances, mostly IMO it was predictable and painful to see.

I'm all for players coming through the ranks and I know you have to blood these players, O'Neil for one was one to watch, when he came into the team it was because BFC had no one else to turn to, he did a reasonable job with what they asked him to do but he hardly stood out and changed games.

Anderson who could be good is maybe at the same junction as O'Neil was, still raw and not used to the cut and thrust of Premier League.

Blooding players is great but you have to have exceptional players around these who are breaking into the first team, our exceptional player is now plying his trade with Everton and the ones that are left are prone to mistakes, novices themselves or still learning their trade.

A Doom monger I am not, I just find it frustrating that we seem to be relying on novice players maybe coming through along with players who are not good enough (Arfield for one) to compete in the so called best League in the World when we have money to strengthen properly.

[Primitive]

A Doom monger I am not, I just find it frustrating that we seem to be relying on novice players maybe coming through along with players who are not good enough (Arfield for one) to compete in the so called best League in the World when we have money to strengthen properly.

And yet when we sign players like Walters and Bardsley who have proved over a number of years that they are good enough to compete in the PL you complain that they won't improve the team much.

[Altobelli]

It improves the squad somewhat but not the team which is what we need, and as I said its a like for like with Walters getting Boyd's place and Bardsley cover for Lowton, and again like I said and you have no doubt read but not retained, they are not long term, just a supposedly quick fix which may look good but IMO is not.

[oldcolner]

It improves the squad somewhat but not the team which is what we need, and as I said its a like for like with Walters getting Boyd's place and Bardsley cover for Lowton, and again like I said and you have no doubt read but not retained, they are not long term, just a supposedly quick fix which may look good but IMO is not.

I'm not sure what you are looking for, is it a big splash of cash or a big name in the way that Joey provided for a short time. I doubt we will ever want to splash big money when players of Walters Calibre can be had for much less and offer ability experience and improvement on what we had. Are there many Irish marquees around as that seems to be the trend.
The plan is to develop youngsters I presume given the Barnfield development but we need stop gap experience and a stronger back up squad.
I thought Anderson looked good at Preston, but what he will be like against teams like Chelsea I don't know. It will be interesting to see if he gets the nod on Saturday, as Sean must have been giving him the chance to fit the mould he has for this year. Maybe Tarks will be fit and replace him. He deserves his chance in my view.

[sinkov]

I expect the comments were aimed at you and me both Alto, but they're wide of the mark. I'll be happy if Tom makes it in the PL, not disappointed. Same with Gray, I don't rate him as a PL striker and I'd be happy to see the back of him, but if he stays and bangs in 15-20 goals, well happy days, I'll have been proved wrong but will I be disappointed, will I feck.

[Altobelli]

I'm not sure what you are looking for,

Not the earth Colner.

How long have we known Michael Keane was going ? And yet we have not replaced him, the old retort on here and seemingly from the Club at the moment is "We'll be O.K. with what we have in Mee, Tarky, Long and Anderson".

How many times has it been said our forward need some proper service ? Have we purchased a creative midfielder or tricky winger to improve this ? NO.

And our forwards, not one of them is potent even when they do get chances, have we improved our attacking options ? IMO No.

Maintaining Premier status is our main priority, with the exception of Jack Cork maybe, I don't see much improvement on our team which is a crying shame as we have money in the Bank, I don't want the world, I don't want to throw the sink at it, but I do want some players who would address what I have written above, failing that I see another season of a few good games like the one's against Liverpool, Everton, Palace etc but the majority being mediocre or well below par which would mean another lack lustre season.

[oldcolner]

Not the earth Colner.

How long have we known Michael Keane was going ? And yet we have not replaced him, the old retort on here and seemingly from the Club at the moment is "We'll be O.K. with what we have in Mee, Tarky, Long and Anderson".

How many times has it been said our forward need some proper service ? Have we purchased a creative midfielder or tricky winger to improve this ? NO.

And our forwards, not one of them is potent even when they do get chances, have we improved our attacking options ? IMO No.

Maintaining Premier status is our main priority, with the exception of Jack Cork maybe, I don't see much improvement on our team which is a crying shame as we have money in the Bank, I don't want the world, I don't want to throw the sink at it, but I do want some players who would address what I have written above, failing that I see another season of a few good games like the one's against Liverpool, Everton, Palace etc but the majority being mediocre or well below par which would mean another lack lustre season.

I think Sean has said he's looking for two more
Dyche said: “We’re still only carrying about 19 outfield wise. “A perfect scenario is two in every position and a couple of young lads who are pushing. “We’re nearly there, but we’re not quite there. “We’re getting back into good shape, we’re looking at a few options and seeing if we can make them happen.”

http://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/football/clarets/dyche-not-done-yet-after-bardsley-signs-in-at-turf-1-8672194

I think Taylor looked the part at Preston, as did Jack Cork, and Walters
I thought Brady Joey BG and Defour are creative, if they get the chance.
Not yet sure about Hendricks and agree with you on Andre. I see West Ham have sold Fletcher to Boro leaving a slot for a centre forward so maybe he will still be off.
I agree we need a fast and tricky winger, and wonder if Aygei will come good as a striker. He only got a few minutes at Preston but looked a handful.
Let's see what FOrest can do - hope Darikwa doesn't show us what we are now missing!

[sinkov]

OC, West Ham have just spent £40m on Hernandez and Arnautovic, I don't think Gray will still be on their shopping list, if he ever was.

Alto, you put Long and Anderson on your list of our CBs for the PL. Sean isn't daft, he lives in the real, harsh world of PL football, not the Alice in Wonderland, fantasy world of football forums. He knows Long and Anderson are nowhere near the level we need to prosper in the PL. He'll bring in another CB, Long will be 4th choice and Anderson will be back out on loan. Don't worry about our defence, it will be sorted, and it won't be Long or Anderson who are sorting it.

[Altobelli]

I mentioned Long and Anderson as we have not got much more Sinkov, even with a fresh CB coming in the back up is not great, so if injuries or suspensions which Mee likes a booking and also Tarky can be a loose cannon sometimes we'd be a bit lightweight.

I too don't see Gray departing for West Ham with their new recruits, but you never know, if he does stay I hope he proves me and others wrong and improves a great deal as I'd like to eat my words.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

OC, West Ham have just spent £40m on Hernandez and Arnautovic, I don't think Gray will still be on their shopping list, if he ever was.

Alto, you put Long and Anderson on your list of our CBs for the PL. Sean isn't daft, he lives in the real, harsh world of PL football, not the Alice in Wonderland, fantasy world of football forums. He knows Long and Anderson are nowhere near the level we need to prosper in the PL. He'll bring in another CB, Long will be 4th choice and Anderson will be back out on loan. Don't worry about our defence, it will be sorted, and it won't be Long or Anderson who are sorting it.

I will have to fall out with you on this one sinkov! Long and Anderson might not be Bobby Moore or Rio Ferdinand but they are honest professionals and both of them are as hard as nails.

If SD did not think they have it in them, they would have been despatched by now. Like you say, I'll leave it with someone who knows what they are talking about! :confused:

[sinkov]

I will have to fall out with you on this one sinkov! Long and Anderson might not be Bobby Moore or Rio Ferdinand but they are honest professionals and both of them are as hard as nails.

If SD did not think they have it in them, they would have been despatched by now. Like you say, I'll leave it with someone who knows what they are talking about! :confused:

Well they're both still here I'll give you that, and Long has even worked his way up to being our No4 choice at centre-half, but it's taken him seven years. Two seasons ago when we were in the Championship Dyche loaned him out to D1. So clearly he doesn't rate him that highly.

Tom has been a feature of pre-season friendlies for years now, but so were Wes Fletcher, Alex McDonald, Alex-Ray Harvey, Steven Hewitt etc, Tom has outlasted them all but he's still no nearer breaking through than when he was a ****ager, and that's a long while ago now.

You can talk them up all you want BT, I'm certainly not intending to knock either of them, but if you start talking about them as PL starters then I'm just bringing some reality to bear. Honest and hard they may, decent lads the pair of them I'm sure, but Premier League players, not yet, Long has an awful lot to prove, and not even close in Tom's case.

[bpgburn]

Long out to Northampton for the season, wouldn't be surpised if Anderson will be loaned out again also. Shame but neither anywhere near PL Standard.

[oldcolner]

Long out to Northampton for the season, wouldn't be surpised if Anderson will be loaned out again also. Shame but neither anywhere near PL Standard.

Not seen that yet.
Is that to give Sean a lift home?
Or maybe vice versa!

[Supersub6]

Just to avoid confusion, it is Chris Long who has been loaned to Northampton ----NOT Kevin Long.

[oldcolner]

Just to avoid confusion, it is Chris Long who has been loaned to Northampton ----NOT Kevin Long.
That makes more sense.
Sean can keep tabs on him too!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I am totally amazed Chris Long is still with us...

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[oldcolner]

Cobblers - he's off again!
That's the Long and short of it!;D

[thedonz]

Decent scoring record for Brentford in the Championship , albeit not over a long period . This seems a step backwards to me

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Decent scoring record for Brentford in the Championship , albeit not over a long period . This seems a step backwards to me

...and to me donzy. Surely he should have gone to a Championship club? :confused:

[Black Country]

Probable suspensions or injuries will require another CB. We will not go into the new season with what we have never mind if good enough.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Probable suspensions or injuries will require another CB. We will not go into the new season with what we have never mind if good enough.

I would love it if either Anderson or Whitmore can/could prove themselves to be good enough! :D

[sinkov]

Probable suspensions or injuries will require another CB. We will not go into the new season with what we have never mind if good enough.

We had 4 last season, I can't imagine Sean intends to go with 3 this season, so the cheque book will be out. Someone good enough to push Mee and Tarko for their place I would hope, and why not, we have the money.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

We had 4 last season, I can't imagine Sean intends to go with 3 this season, so the cheque book will be out. Someone good enough to push Mee and Tarko for their place I would hope, and why not, we have the money.

When you start sinkov there is simply no stopping you! You remind me a lot of our old dog, he just keeps on chewing the same old bone! :rolleyes:

[Altobelli]

When you start sinkov there is simply no stopping you! You remind me a lot of our old dog, he just keeps on chewing the same old bone! :rolleyes:

Then they (BFC) should give us a different kind of bone to chew...........

[sinkov]

When you start sinkov there is simply no stopping you! You remind me a lot of our old dog, he just keeps on chewing the same old bone! :rolleyes:

And there was me thinking it was you who wouldn't let go of the bone BT, mentioning Anderson .........yet again. But that's one bone you really can stop chewing, let me know when he makes it at Championship level, then we can possibly ponder his PL prospects.

Or maybe you're not on a wind-up BT, you really are serious and you don't think we're going to sign a CB, you think we're going with Mee, Tarko, Long and Anderson. OK fair enough, it just never occurred to me that Sean had gone completely off his tree.

[Supersub6]

Then they (BFC) should give us a different kind of bone to chew...........

alto --you can chew as many different bones as you want, however, at the end of the day, none of us has any influence at all.
However, if it helps you to get through life, just keep chewing. ;D

[Altobelli]

alto --you can chew as many different bones as you want, however, at the end of the day, none of us has any influence at all.
However, if it helps you to get through life, just keep chewing. ;D

I'll keep knocking on the door Sub and asking the same questions until I get the right answer(s).

[sinkov]

I'll keep knocking on the door Sub and asking the same questions until I get the right answer(s).

We've got our answer Alto, Kevin Long and Tom Anderson apparently.

[Supersub6]

Ah well --each to his own.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYr7I4gOSXk

[oldcolner]

We've got our answer Alto, Kevin Long and Tom Anderson apparently.
Neither got a sniff at Forest so maybe not!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Tarkowski and Mee got undone yet again on the near post and that is alarming the s hi t out of me! :s

[wmdave_b]

Charlie Taylor came on for Mee and played centre half yesterday, so its hard to see KL or TA getting much game time.
Tarks was undone by McKays pass which effectively too him out of the game, and didn't get back in time. Other than that he had a good solid game, he has a superb pass in his locker.