No law and order,in our country.

[soulman101]

Bring back the panda cars,bring back the birch and bring back hanging. That's coming from a so called leftie.
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/sandwell/great-barr/2017/08/02/watch-menacing-bikers-pull-wheelies-and-stunts-on-busy-a34-in-great-barr/

[talkSAFT]

Some pillock in Westminster came up with the idea of using Statistics to measure Crime, and then reward the Constabularies who produced good comparative results. The result is that Chief Constables massage the crime figures in order to qualify for their bonuses, and furthermore the Public don't even bother reporting crime any more because the Police haven't got the resource to send 2 constables round to investigate. Westminster thinks everything's fine and dandy, and they even try telling us that crime figures are down! Everyone knows that the streets aren't safe - we don't want some complacent tw*t telling us we're wrong.

We clearly need many more Bobbies on the beat, and even when we get the excuse that Bobbies are spending all their time filling in Human Rights forms, it's no excuse.
SPEND MORE MONEY on Law and Order!
And make sentences a lot harder, because there doesn't seem enough disincentive to commit crime. Daft kids are growing up seeing that they can pretty well do what they like.
And Prisons should be a lot more unpleasant than they obviously are. Why are Prisoners beating up Prison Officers? Put the b*stards in Solitary - that way they can't misbehave.
I'm not going to get political about this, but why can't we throw much more money into Law & Order INSTEAD of throwing money away on the 0.7% Foreign Aid fiasco (where we're ploughing money into African Dictators' pockets).

[WBA1955]

Never'had'any'of'this'in'Dixon'of'Dock'Green's'day


Evenin'all':)

[mickd1961]

Had a call from my daughter from our works site in Dudley today.

One of my small units was going up in f kin flames due to the local junior arsonists.

On this ocaission the little C N U T S have done me a favour because the insurance is probably worth more to me than the old unit but that's not the point.

There's no respect for property and for what people have worked for anymore and not enough coppers on the beat to deal with the scum.

The fire brigade were top notch though as always and arrived in minutes....too feckin efficient to be honest,another ten minutes and the old shack would've been obliterated which would've saved my demolition costs!!

[WBA123]

You say not to make it political, but it is really isn't it.

Most people on this site voted Tory, when it was obvious Labour would have put more money into public services such as policing.

Most people on here voted in favour of Brexit, when it is obvious in the next decade we will have a poorer economy for it, meaning less cash in the coffers for public services.

The bed is made, now we have to lie in it.

Everyone is aware that the Tories look only after themselves and their friends, that why most public services are on their knees. Including the prisons, where young criminals should be rehabilitated. There are more drugs, extremism and violence in our prisons than ever before which means criminals come out and just commit crime time and time again. This in turn just creates more crime, its like a never ending cycle.

But as long as most of the electorate believe the Sh!te they are reading in the toerag press, then the top Tory MP's are okay with their cash stuffed away in their tax havens and the everyday person will suffer the consequences. They don't give a sh!t about nurses or firemen or soldiers or police officers or teachers. These are the people who are the backbone of our country...

But hey don't forget, Corbyn once had a meeting with the IRA....Pffff

[Leicesterbaggie]

And Corbyn promised to do away with tuition fees and scrap those who had already paid them. Then he comes out with 'I didn't realise the enormity of the problem'. Don't you think he should have done before making all those promises to the young of this country who voted for him in their droves. If he did know, then he was telling an outright lie. Choose which option you want! This is the man you want to lead our country. Oh by the way, he didn't attend the Passchendale tribute ceremony. He was on a cycling holiday in Croatia. Theresa May managed to interrupt her holiday to attend.

[kettering_baggie]

WBA123, you seem to believe that everyone who voted Tory or voted for Brexit are delusional. You, though, are just as delusional. Do you seriously believe the lies of Corbyn, McDonnell & co? Labour had no chance of delivering on their election promises and anyone who believed that rubbish, is, quite frankly, stupid. Brexit, if it does happen, will be the biggest mistake this country has made for a very long time and most of the population do not understand the implications. As for our political parties, at least the LibDems want to stop Brexit but as for Labour and the Tories, neither deserve our votes. Those two main parties consist of a majority of EU membership supporting MP's, yet few of them have the courage of their convictions to vote against Brexit; they should remember that this country is a parliamentary democracy and not one run on the results of binary referenda.

[mickd1961]

WBA123, you seem to believe that everyone who voted Tory or voted for Brexit are delusional. You, though, are just as delusional. Do you seriously believe the lies of Corbyn, McDonnell & co? Labour had no chance of delivering on their election promises and anyone who believed that rubbish, is, quite frankly, stupid. Brexit, if it does happen, will be the biggest mistake this country has made for a very long time and most of the population do not understand the implications. As for our political parties, at least the LibDems want to stop Brexit but as for Labour and the Tories, neither deserve our votes. Those two main parties consist of a majority of EU membership supporting MP's, yet few of them have the courage of their convictions to vote against Brexit; they should remember that this country is a parliamentary democracy and not one run on the results of binary referenda.

Very well put Kets.

"Neither Labour or Tories deserve our votes".....how true.

I voted Brexit because I foolishly believed there was a plan in place,if I'd realised how inept the Tories were in this regard I'd have voted to stay in.

There are two places to lay the blame imo.......Cameron for being so weak and insipid when trying to get us a better deal and those European w a n k e r s who would not give some ground on immigration.

I continue to ask one simple question of people who believe in free movement but I never get a straight answer so I'll ask it again on here.

We are a small island and our nett gain in human bodies is around 250,000 per year....fact!

One day,maybe a couple of hundred years from now we will have an extra 50 million people in the UK at that rate.

At some point immigration rules will surely have to change so here's the question.......if not now,at what point will immigration have to stop purely because we have to sleep standing up due to lack of space?

At some point we run out of room...simple mathematics tells you that.

So either manage immigration properly now or stop it almost completely in the next 50-200 years?

[That lad Smiffy]

You say not to make it political, but it is really isn't it.

Most people on this site voted Tory, when it was obvious Labour would have put more money into public services such as policing.

Most people on here voted in favour of Brexit, when it is obvious in the next decade we will have a poorer economy for it, meaning less cash in the coffers for public services.

The bed is made, now we have to lie in it.

Everyone is aware that the Tories look only after themselves and their friends, that why most public services are on their knees. Including the prisons, where young criminals should be rehabilitated. There are more drugs, extremism and violence in our prisons than ever before which means criminals come out and just commit crime time and time again. This in turn just creates more crime, its like a never ending cycle.

But as long as most of the electorate believe the Sh!te they are reading in the toerag press, then the top Tory MP's are okay with their cash stuffed away in their tax havens and the everyday person will suffer the consequences. They don't give a sh!t about nurses or firemen or soldiers or police officers or teachers. These are the people who are the backbone of our country...

But hey don't forget, Corbyn once had a meeting with the IRA....Pffff

There is an alternative to austerity , it's called socialism.
Just look at Venezuela.

[WBA1955]

I'don't'think'Corbyn'said'he'was'scrapping'the'deb t'students'owed,he'did'say'didn't'know'it'was'that 'much.What'he'said'was'he'would'scrap'tuition'fees 'so'everyone'would'be'able'to'a'good'education,not 'just'the'Nigel's,Archibald's'and'Cuthberts.Just't he'Tory'press'twisting'words'again,to'deflect'the' fact'that'Theresa'has'gone'back,on'ALL'of'her'prom ises.
Keep'reading'The'Sun'and'Mail.Theyre'sure'to'be'ri ght.:P

[holmleighchris]

300,000 more people permanently moved to Britain than left Britain last year. This was the lowest figure for around 9 years. So close to 3 million more people plus their offspring that have been born here now reside here. All needing to use the NHS. Many needing money off social security. Many needing schooling. Some need police help, some are criminals who end up in jail.Yet we continually cut back on the funding of these things.
We have to assume those among the 3 million that are working are paying tax. Most will buy VAT rated products thereby putting more money into the Country's coffers.
What has happened to the money saved by these cuts and the extra money generated by the immigrants?

[soulman101]

On the M54 today https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2017/08/03/like-something-from-fast-and-furious-as-sports-cars-race-down-m54-hard-shoulder---with-video/

[mickd1961]

On the M54 today https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2017/08/03/like-something-from-fast-and-furious-as-sports-cars-race-down-m54-hard-shoulder---with-video/

What a bunch of absolute cretins!

No regard for the a safety of other people.

Driving like that should carry a mandatory ten year prison sentence purely for being an utter C NUT.

[BaggieBlood]

Do you really consider yourself a leftie Soulman?

[goodlordmurphy]

On the M54 today https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2017/08/03/like-something-from-fast-and-furious-as-sports-cars-race-down-m54-hard-shoulder---with-video/

At the end of the comments it said Police are calling for information...surely they have it there in front of their eyes....can they not stop, rewind and blow up the madmen or women to take number plates.

[holmleighchris]

At the end of the comments it said Police are calling for information...surely they have it there in front of their eyes....can they not stop, rewind and blow up the madmen or women to take number plates.

I think a jail term is in order, along with a lengthy driving ban and a massive fine. Blowing them up seems a little over the top.

[goodlordmurphy]

I think a jail term is in order, along with a lengthy driving ban and a massive fine. Blowing them up seems a little over the top.

I see what you mean hlc but there are more than one way to blow up...some of them quite enjoyable.....:) :)

[stripes39]

I'don't'think'Corbyn'said'he'was'scrapping'the'deb t'students'owed,he'did'say'didn't'know'it'was'that 'much.What'he'said'was'he'would'scrap'tuition'fees 'so'everyone'would'be'able'to'a'good'education,not 'just'the'Nigel's,Archibald's'and'Cuthberts.Just't he'Tory'press'twisting'words'again,to'deflect'the' fact'that'Theresa'has'gone'back,on'ALL'of'her'prom ises.
Keep'reading'The'Sun'and'Mail.Theyre'sure'to'be'ri ght.:P

Labour's manifesto committed to abolish tuition fees and Corbyn verbally talked about wiping student debt. John McDonnell and Corbyn both backtracked on this pledge to eliminate fees (after all the students had voted) stating that it was an 'ambition' to eliminate fees. It was the sheer cost of it that caused them to backtrack on their manifesto pledge which brings to mind that old addage that if anything appears to good to be true it usually is.

Just today, The Centre for Policy Studies (CPS) said Labour’s flagship general election education policies would result in poorer non-graduates effectively subsidising students who then go on to earn thousands of pounds more every year and that picking up these education costs would effectively slap a 2.8% income tax rise on the taxpayer.

[Albionic68]

I see what you mean hlc but there are more than one way to blow up...some of them quite enjoyable.....:)

I think blowing them up may be more of a deterrent GLM.

But if you'd like to try stopping them by using the other method the ball's in your court so to speak :O XD ;D .

[WBA123]

WBA123, you seem to believe that everyone who voted Tory or voted for Brexit are delusional. You, though, are just as delusional. Do you seriously believe the lies of Corbyn, McDonnell & co? Labour had no chance of delivering on their election promises and anyone who believed that rubbish, is, quite frankly, stupid.

You can't say it was Lies, they will not have the chance to prove if their economic argument would have worked or not. However it goes without saying we would have a fairer society for most people to live in. You Sir have to question why the print media are so keen for you to vote in favour of brexit and the Tories.

I don't agree with everything Labour says or does, but I do detest the Tories and yes I can't understand why anyone would vote in favour of the Cons or Brexit. Unless you wield lots of influence or wealth and want more of it.

[Leicesterbaggie]

I'll tell you why I vote Tory and that is because I don't want a Marxist prime minister who appears to abhor everything that being British stands for. If he had his way we'd end up like Venezuala, whose leader he idolises. Look what a mess they are in! There was nothing wrong with the Labour Party until we had to endure Tony Blair, who was further to the right than the Tory party and now Jeremy Corbyn, who is so far to the left that he makes Marx look like a moderate.

[stripes39]

You can't say it was Lies, they will not have the chance to prove if their economic argument would have worked or not. However it goes without saying we would have a fairer society for most people to live in. You Sir have to question why the print media are so keen for you to vote in favour of brexit and the Tories.

I don't agree with everything Labour says or does, but I do detest the Tories and yes I can't understand why anyone would vote in favour of the Cons or Brexit. Unless you wield lots of influence or wealth and want more of it.

The Print media were not all in favour of Brexit by any stretch. They were split between Remain and Leave. The Mail on Sunday, The Guardian, The FT, The Times, The Mirror and The Observer all carried editorials asking people to vote Remain. Then we have the BBC who clearly were in favour of Remain. Labours problem was that no one knew if they were for Remain or Leave. Even their own ministers seemed clueless yet many Labour strongholds voted Leave so traditional Labour (and Tory) heartlands played a key role in the vote.