ST Assaulted

[offshore_arab83]

Heard this last night in snug, in papers today

Maybe that £4m selling price has just came down....

[dundeeunitedfc83]

Shocking if true, canna be doing that fs

[thefutureistangerine4]

Heard this last night in snug, in papers today

Maybe that £4m selling price has just came down....

This unfortunately is fake news. It was the other way round.

I was part of the group that was involved in this incident. The group was called Wagner and friends and we had the sponsors table hospitality package. The guy Paul Anderson who booked Wagner for last derby was the match sponsor for last nights game (did the half time draw). There was 14 of us sitting together 3 rows behind ST in the Directors box.

When the game was over we headed back to lounge area for after drinks etc. One of the guys in our group was walking down the corridor towards the lounge. He started looking at his phone not realising ST was directly behind him. ST must have thought that the guy was taking a picture of him or something as he got really irate and grabbed the guy. there was a brief scuffle which resulted in ST falling to the floor (it was handbags tbh). He was with his son and wife I think.

Our group was then escorted to our room and none of us were allowed to leave as police were then involved. Eventually we were all allowed to leave and we heard that our guy was the one being charged. Not one of our group were asked for a statement as to what had happened. It seems the police were only interested in ST and his family's account of the incident. ST was completely in the wrong. It was not all Dundee fans in the group there was me and two other united fans and we are all pretty clear that ST was the instigator.

[offshore_arab83]

So no one punched he's pus then? ☹️

[TerryTheTerror]

Sake future, you keep with some dubious characters. :)

[offshore_arab83]

Shame future wasn't caught up in the skirmish...

Can see the headlines 'Future assaulted by united supremo, will never stick up for him again on footy mad!'

Future was quoted as saying 'all the times I've stood up for Stephen, all the times I told myself Stephen is the answer and it's not his fault and it's all the big bad posters and moderators from Mad who ban me, it's all their fault'

😂

[jjaflup22]

However no matter who was in the right and who was in the wrong it's just another day of cr@p headlines and embarrassment for the club.

[offshore_arab83]

However no matter who was in the right and who was in the wrong it's just another day of cr@p headlines and embarrassment for the club.
Agree JJ

If what future says is true and nae reason to doubt him, it's another case of ST playing the victim. 'Look at me, feel sorry for me'

[Arab 8010]

Canna believe there is a group of guys going about calling themselves Wagner and friends, minter

[TerryTheTerror]

Canna believe there is a group of guys going about calling themselves Wagner and friends, minter

Exactly, adults too? :?

[dundeeunitedfc83]

Was your lad wagner at the game last night you bunch of weirdos

[GFLower]

So no one punched he's pus then? ☹️


According to the Tele a man has now been charged with assault.

[thefutureistangerine4]

Was your lad wagner at the game last night you bunch of weirdos

I have stuck up for ST in the past but cannot back him on this one. there was the tiniest of scuffles which he initiated and then went crying to the police about. For once I feel sorry for a blue nose as this guy getting charged really should have made a complaint to the police. Instead he brushed it off and its now him in the dock. Shocking from ST and his family who cannot have been truthful too.

As far as the company I keep I was getting a free five course meal, and a free ticket. No brainer! ;D

[thefutureistangerine4]

According to the Tele a man has now been charged with assault.

there was no punches thrown. shirts grabbed and ST fell over and looked a bit stupid in front of his family. Police only interested in hearing his side of the story. There was 14 of us kept in a room whilst they interviewed ST and his family. Police never asked any of us for a statement.

[Chick A Saw]

I have stuck up for ST in the past but cannot back him on this one. there was the tiniest of scuffles which he initiated and then went crying to the police about. For once I feel sorry for a blue nose as this guy getting charged really should have made a complaint to the police. Instead he brushed it off and its now him in the dock. Shocking from ST and his family who cannot have been truthful too.

As far as the company I keep I was getting a free five course meal, and a free ticket. No brainer! ;D

I dont care what team the lad supports, but if its true that he was not the instigator, then if there are witnesses to this then you need to be gettin doon the road and speaking to the police!

[thefutureistangerine4]

This is absolutely the case. I advised the lad last night to make his own complaint as I thought this is what would happen due to the high profile of the 'victim'. What should have happened is that the whole thing should have been dismissed last night. It was absolutely minor.

The poor guy is getting slated now all over the media for 'assaulting' ST when that absolutely never happened.

[Arabs4ever]

Nothing surprises me about Police Scotland these days. Just like that missing man for a month? No one think about searching his house? As they are the "Police" they think they are something special. Pity they don't listen to the public and their insistence that they are always right makes you really hate them.

[huntedbyafreak]

If someone he's been charged and your a witness I don't think speaking about incident on a message board is the done thing as far as the law goes tbh.

[thefutureistangerine4]

Shame future wasn't caught up in the skirmish...

Can see the headlines 'Future assaulted by united supremo, will never stick up for him again on footy mad!'

Future was quoted as saying 'all the times I've stood up for Stephen, all the times I told myself Stephen is the answer and it's not his fault and it's all the big bad posters and moderators from Mad who ban me, it's all their fault'

😂

Slight misrepresentation of my opinions offshore. I am not a fan of ST. I think he is unpleasant. I also think he has made some bad decisions. I just don't accept the over simplified pantomime villain of how he is portrayed on this forum by certain posters. I also think that until there is an alternative option with the means to improve us that we should try our best to stay united as a club. That to me seems a logical position to take.

[thefutureistangerine4]

I am not a witness but I was part of the group and have spoken to 3-4 eye witnesses and completely believe their story as they relayed it to me within seconds of the incident. We were all locked in a room for 20 mins whilst ST and family gave their version to the police. After that the police were not interested in any other accounts. None of the other witnesses were interviewed.

There is absolutely no legal issue with me commenting on a forum. Is it fair that social media is filled with false accounts about this Dundee fan assaulting ST and people calling for him to be jailed etc when it is a complete fabrication by ST?

[huntedbyafreak]

I am not a witness but I was part of the group and have spoken to 3-4 eye witnesses and completely believe their story as they relayed it to me within seconds of the incident. We were all locked in a room for 20 mins whilst ST and family gave their version to the police. After that the police were not interested in any other accounts. None of the other witnesses were interviewed.

There is absolutely no legal issue with me commenting on a forum. Is it fair that social media is filled with false accounts about this Dundee fan assaulting ST and people calling for him to be jailed etc when it is a complete fabrication by ST?

Fair dos.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see if the Procurator Fiscal decides to proceed

[Dirtdaawg]

Slight misrepresentation of my opinions offshore. I am not a fan of ST. I think he is unpleasant. I also think he has made some bad decisions. I just don't accept the over simplified pantomime villain of how he is portrayed on this forum by certain posters. I also think that until there is an alternative option with the means to improve us that we should try our best to stay united as a club. That to me seems a logical position to take.

This comment makes too much sense and is too logical for this message board. Please take your sane views elsewhere.

[LSArab]

This is really serious stuff. If what future says is true then Wagner and mates group should go to a station and give statements.

It's not about whichever club people support but there is a situation here where police are involved and the proper processes should be followed before anyone jumps to conclusions

[Hoofballer]

This is really serious stuff. If what future says is true then Wagner and mates group should go to a station and give statements.

It's not about whichever club people support but there is a situation here where police are involved and the proper processes should be followed before anyone jumps to conclusions


Absolutely.

The future is tangerine4 is bang on with what happened.

Popped a line on the "Tonight" post last night having heard what happened, typical that ST managed to get us even more negative press for his actions - totally out of order what he did and to then to tell porkies to the police !

Hoping that this accusation shall be defended and the witnesses are able to provide the police with statements with what really happened in court.

ST not going to look good again!

[Whitfieldarab]

What's SmedDUm got to say about the incident?

Surely he was at the Stephen Thompson & friends table :o

[huntedbyafreak]

In the future there will be no due legal process and arrests, charges, trials and convictions will be carried out on the internet

[SmedDUm]

What's SmedDUm got to say about the incident?

Surely he was at the Stephen Thompson & friends table :o

Eh wiz greetin behind the goal :(

[LSArab]

Worth remembering the great wee Jim's time as chairman ended because of an alleged assault.

Slight different circumstances though...

[offshore_arab83]

This comment makes too much sense and is too logical for this message board. Please take your sane views elsewhere.

I think its pish

[shedboy71]

In the future there will be no due legal process and arrests, charges, trials and convictions will be carried out on the internet

XD

[Jedi u-Knighted]

Nothing surprises me about Police Scotland these days. Just like that missing man for a month? No one think about searching his house? As they are the "Police" they think they are something special. Pity they don't listen to the public and their insistence that they are always right makes you really hate them.

What aload of sh#te.!!

[DerryJungle]

Worth remembering the great wee Jim's time as chairman ended because of an alleged assault.

Slight different circumstances though...

Unless Thompson's attacker dropped a couple million out his pocket in the scuffle, he's going nowhere.

[LSArab]

Couple million??? £4 million??? For a loss making Scottish championship club.

No wonder no one wants to buy if that is the price demanded

[GUNBOAT]

This unfortunately is fake news. It was the other way round.

I was part of the group that was involved in this incident. The group was called Wagner and friends and we had the sponsors table hospitality package. The guy Paul Anderson who booked Wagner for last derby was the match sponsor for last nights game (did the half time draw). There was 14 of us sitting together 3 rows behind ST in the Directors box.

When the game was over we headed back to lounge area for after drinks etc. One of the guys in our group was walking down the corridor towards the lounge. He started looking at his phone not realising ST was directly behind him. ST must have thought that the guy was taking a picture of him or something as he got really irate and grabbed the guy. there was a brief scuffle which resulted in ST falling to the floor (it was handbags tbh). He was with his son and wife I think.

Our group was then escorted to our room and none of us were allowed to leave as police were then involved. Eventually we were all allowed to leave and we heard that our guy was the one being charged. Not one of our group were asked for a statement as to what had happened. It seems the police were only interested in ST and his family's account of the incident. ST was completely in the wrong. It was not all Dundee fans in the group there was me and two other united fans and we are all pretty clear that ST was the instigator.

I did tell you that Mr Thompson was a horrible person but you and others backed him to the hilt,FACT.I hope the Dee in the dock gets aquitted,maybe the Wagner sponsor can stop wasting his money on a lousy singer and hire his mate a decent lawyer to show Thompson up for the liar he is.

[SmedDUm]

Why would Stephen Thompson become 'really irate' because a guy directly in front of him 'started looking at his phone'?
Could be carnage in the Overgate if ST was to walk the length.

[thefutureistangerine4]

I did tell you that Mr Thompson was a horrible person but you and others backed him to the hilt,FACT.I hope the Dee in the dock gets aquitted,maybe the Wagner sponsor can stop wasting his money on a lousy singer and hire his mate a decent lawyer to show Thompson up for the liar he is.

I have been consistent in my view that I am not a fan of ST. I dont think he is a particularly nice man. I also do not recall 'backing him to the hilt'. What I have said if you were to review my comments in the past is that until we have a credible alternative it is completely pointless and damaging to slate him and attempt to force him out. i am not sure if you are capable of seeing that view as anything other than an endorsement of him but that is due to your own blinkers rather than an accurate representation of my views.

[TerryTheTerror]

Why would Stephen Thompson become 'really irate' because a guy directly in front of him 'started looking at his phone'?

Who knows but I agree this seems pretty unlikely. Also, I know someone who was sitting right behind the directors box for the match and they tell me this wagner group were being arseholes throughout the match....

[thefutureistangerine4]

Who knows but I agree this seems pretty unlikely. Also, I know someone who was sitting right behind the directors box for the match and they tell me this wagner group were being arseholes throughout the match....

Much as I would like to agree with you as they have been winding me up constantly since the derby this is just not the case Terry. ST was sitting in the very front row. The wagner group were at least 5 rows back and had zero interaction with ST and there was absolutely no problems. The scuffle only broke out in the corridor on the way back to the board rooms etc. ST would have no way of knowing who the guy was. Only he will know why he reacted the way it did but he may have thought the guy was taking his picture or videoing him and did not like it (i dont know). He then grabbed the guy (who up to that point did not even reason it was ST behind him).

As far as your friend who claims the wagner group were being 'arseholes'. What does he mean by that. It was a row of 14 people in suits one of which with a child. 3 of them were united fans. I would be the first to tell you if anyone in that group was being an arsehole and other than them being irritatingly smug about winning the game they were being no more an arsehole than any of the other Dundee Fans in the stadium. Fake news Terry...

[TerryTheTerror]

They were generally being a pain in the arse I understand, standing up and blocking the view of folk behind them (for no good reason) for instance.

[ahlltanyirhide]

Much as I would like to agree with you as they have been winding me up constantly since the derby this is just not the case Terry. ST was sitting in the very front row. The wagner group were at least 5 rows back and had zero interaction with ST and there was absolutely no problems. The scuffle only broke out in the corridor on the way back to the board rooms etc. ST would have no way of knowing who the guy was. Only he will know why he reacted the way it did but he may have thought the guy was taking his picture or videoing him and did not like it (i dont know). He then grabbed the guy (who up to that point did not even reason it was ST behind him).

As far as your friend who claims the wagner group were being 'arseholes'. What does he mean by that. It was a row of 14 people in suits one of which with a child. 3 of them were united fans. I would be the first to tell you if anyone in that group was being an arsehole and other than them being irritatingly smug about winning the game they were being no more an arsehole than any of the other Dundee Fans in the stadium. Fake news Terry...

You've already said you didn't see what happened, so stop being a phukkin fishwife and spreading gossip. State what you've seen and shut the phukk up

[thefutureistangerine4]

You've already said you didn't see what happened, so stop being a phukkin fishwife and spreading gossip. State what you've seen and shut the phukk up

So hold on this whole thread is full of opinions from people who have no idea what happened and my view is completely dismissed although I am the only person on here that actually spoke to one of the people involved. Its unfortunate what this forum has become. Apologies for passing on the info I had from being there. I will retire from this convo and leave you guys to your mutual self pleasuring.....

[blackandtangerine]

You've already said you didn't see what happened, so stop being a phukkin fishwife and spreading gossip. State what you've seen and shut the phukk up

Any word on this big news yet??

[TerryTheTerror]

It's probably in the same place as 'the letter'. :P

[Whitfieldarab]

So hold on this whole thread is full of opinions from people who have no idea what happened and my view is completely dismissed although I am the only person on here that actually spoke to one of the people involved. Its unfortunate what this forum has become. Apologies for passing on the info I had from being there. I will retire from this convo and leave you guys to your mutual self pleasuring.....

Agree with you 100%.

Altan way out of order.

[blackandtangerine]

It's probably in the same place as 'the letter'. :P
😁

The letter was fact tho as the contents were true as you later found out.

I think the other bloke was just havering though.

[ahlltanyirhide]

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The letter was fact tho as the contents were true as you later found out.

I think the other bloke was just havering though.

I agree b&t :P

[ahlltanyirhide]

Agree with you 100%.

Altan way out of order.

Aye right

[Whitfieldarab]

Aye right

I know one of the Utd supporters in that group and he's said the same as Future.

Fish wife.

Aye right.

By the way I don't know who future is.

[Wullie]

By the way I don't know who future is.



I believe the children are our are future, teach them well and let them lead the way.

[Whitfieldarab]

I believe the children are our are future, teach them well and let them lead the way.

:o

[ahlltanyirhide]

I know one of the Utd supporters in that group and he's said the same as Future.

Fish wife.

Aye right.



By the way I don't know who future is.

On ya go Whitters, listen to sh*te often enough and you'll believe the sh*te sure enough, that's what all the gossipmungers do

[Whitfieldarab]

On ya go Whitters, listen to sh*te often enough and you'll believe the sh*te sure enough, that's what all the gossipmungers do

Nae bother Tanners. I always believe the sh*te you post. ;D

[Hoofballer]

No, you're not, check back the thread, I'm with you on this one. Your information is good with what aledgedly happened and who the wronged party actually is.

Police have "defendant's" statement and witnesses, either they or the PF shall likely decide now what's next with this and counter complaint.

ST is the one who put his version out in public and hopefully the truth will receive the same level of media attention once court case or removal of complaint.

We can all stop debating then and just judge the actions of the individual proved to be in wrong.

[huntedbyafreak]

Who goes to a Derby with their Dee mates?

Bizarre

[ahlltanyirhide]

Nae bother Tanners. I always believe the sh*te you post. ;D

:heart:

[offshore_arab83]

I like this thread

[huntedbyafreak]

I like this thread

It's proper car crash stuff.

"My mate said"

"Well I've heard this"

"He was looking at his phone"

"Trying to take a photo"

It's phucking LOLz

[PortugueseFrank]

To be frank,

This is a minter all around. On absolutely all sides.

The procurator fiscal will likely drop the whole thing.

It’s in best interests of all sides that this embarrassment is dropped.

ST should hope it does get binned as regardless of outcome he’ll end up looking stupid as ****.

Compete sideshow.

[ahlltanyirhide]

To be frank,

This is a minter all around. On absolutely all sides.

The procurator fiscal will likely drop the whole thing.

It’s in best interests of all sides that this embarrassment is dropped.

ST should hope it does get binned as regardless of outcome he’ll end up looking stupid as ****.

Compete sideshow.

I mind years ago, a lad was assaulted in Dundee, the case went to court where the Sheriff was commenting on what happened, the Sheriff stated "I read here that the victim was hit by a razor", "what kind of a razor was used in this cowardly attack", the PF replied "a rubber eraser sir" much to the amusement of all present. Turned out the lad had been hit with one of those jumbo rubbers, nearly knocked the boy out though, so probably not funny during the event! a wee bit like being a middle aged man, attending a fitba match with his wife and child, and being confronted by a baying mob of pissed up **** stains. Amusing to some when they hear about it, but probably not to those on the receiving end.

FTD4life scummy bastirds

[deebuster]

to Summarise
Feck the Dee
Feck Wagner and his fan club
Feck Stephen Thompson
Feck abody on this thread

;D

[Otm_Shank]

I know one of the Utd supporters in that group and he's said the same as Future.

Fish wife.

Aye right.

By the way I don't know who future is.

Is this a poem?

[Whitfieldarab]

Is this a poem?

It's a rap. Get with the times. It's more Professor Green than Dr Dre though.:D

[Otm_Shank]

It's a rap. Get with the times. It's more Professor Green than Dr Dre though.:D

Lol word

[shedboy71]

Not judging anyone - but why the phuck are arabs involved in the freak show that is Friends of Wakner ?????

[TerryTheTerror]

Not judging anyone - but why the phuck are arabs involved in the freak show that is Friends of Wakner ?????

The mind boggles, even for free. :?

[ahlltanyirhide]

It's a rap. Get with the times. It's more Professor Green than Dr Dre though.:D


Professor G? nae danger, it's mair Honey G

[ahlltanyirhide]

Not judging anyone - but why the phuck are arabs involved in the freak show that is Friends of Wakner ?????

Indeed, and then come on here giving it the "I was there, my funster pal is innocent" enough to give ya the dry boak so it is

FTD4life

[blackandtangerine]

To be frank,

This is a minter all around. On absolutely all sides.

The procurator fiscal will likely drop the whole thing.

It’s in best interests of all sides that this embarrassment is dropped.

ST should hope it does get binned as regardless of outcome he’ll end up looking stupid as ****.

Compete sideshow.
He already is stupid as ****.

[huntedbyafreak]

Not judging anyone - but why the phuck are arabs involved in the freak show that is Friends of Wakner ?????

Incredible

[Logie_Arab]

http://www.scotsman.com/regions/dundee-tayside/****ager-extorted-dundee-united-owner-stephen-thompson-1-4536022/amp

[Whitfieldarab]

http://www.scotsman.com/regions/dundee-tayside/****ager-extorted-dundee-united-owner-stephen-thompson-1-4536022/amp

Fishwife

[Logie_Arab]

Fishwife

Ken

[ahlltanyirhide]

Fishwife

:D

[RaysRedEye]

I mind years ago, a lad was assaulted in Dundee, the case went to court where the Sheriff was commenting on what happened, the Sheriff stated "I read here that the victim was hit by a razor", "what kind of a razor was used in this cowardly attack", the PF replied "a rubber eraser sir" much to the amusement of all present. Turned out the lad had been hit with one of those jumbo rubbers, nearly knocked the boy out though, so probably not funny during the event! a wee bit like being a middle aged man, attending a fitba match with his wife and child, and being confronted by a baying mob of pissed up **** stains. Amusing to some when they hear about it, but probably not to those on the receiving end.

FTD4life scummy bastirds

Cool story bro.

So you were there then and witnessed the pissed up **** stains? or are you spreading gossip and being a ****ing hypocrite? Jumbo rubbers that can knock folk out, Aye?

[ahlltanyirhide]

Cool story bro.

So you were there then and witnessed the pissed up **** stains? or are you spreading gossip and being a ****ing hypocrite? Jumbo rubbers that can knock folk out, Aye?

Jumbo rubbers were the *******s back in the day, don't even know if they are still available? but if they are I'd be up for launching one at your coupon just to test the theory out

[RaysRedEye]

Jumbo rubbers were the *******s back in the day, don't even know if they are still available? but if they are I'd be up for launching one at your coupon just to test the theory out

:D