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oldcolner
21-08-2017, 07:38 AM
Andre watch out!
CPS issues new guidelines covering hate crimes and now includes homophobic, racist, religious tweets or posts. It also covers those who retweet or forward offensive posts.

The Bedlington Terrier
21-08-2017, 08:14 AM
BIG BROTHER really is watching over us all now. How come they never seem to find your average, run of the mill, radicalised Muslim?

You know the ones? They slaughter by the van load, defenceless pedestrians who are just going about their daily business.

This clown has a lot to answer for...

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ClaretinBudapest
21-08-2017, 08:47 AM
BIG BROTHER really is watching over us all now. How come they never seem to find your average, run of the mill, radicalised Muslim?

You know the ones? They slaughter by the van load, defenceless pedestrians who are just going about their daily business.

This clown has a lot to answer for...



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Just doing what he was paid and still being paid for now.Him and even more so his paymasters-you know the ones that will make him immune from prosecution for the rest of his life for his services to the agenda.

The Bedlington Terrier
21-08-2017, 08:54 AM
It sickens me to the stomach CiB. :(

sinkov
21-08-2017, 10:23 AM
Hey BT, you'd better watch out, besides wanting to drown all Tories at birth, you were also expressing a strong desire to grab me by the neck and extinguish all signs of life. Fortunately I'm very forgiving, I won't tell anyone, but best be careful, there are some right ****s out there, not all good natured like me. ;D

oldcolner
21-08-2017, 11:52 AM
It sickens me to the stomach CiB. :(

Good old Al Campbell was part of the circus too. He seemed to be commentating on our Chelsea game on Clarets Player. Fortunately he didnt seem to say much of note. No doubt he got some readies to ease his old age.

The Bedlington Terrier
21-08-2017, 11:56 AM
I only forgive him because he supports Burnley...

Turfmoorspirit
21-08-2017, 03:20 PM
Andre watch out!
CPS issues new guidelines covering hate crimes and now includes homophobic, racist, religious tweets or posts. It also covers those who retweet or forward offensive posts. Phuck em !

Norder
21-08-2017, 04:19 PM
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this is only the beginning....just wait and see whats going to happen when they bring in their new 5g Network - they'll be prosecuting us for our dreams....the one's they give us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRhISwY42nQ

:mad:


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;D

Deadlydave
21-08-2017, 05:23 PM
Well I am giving up on bothering voting as you can't have what you vote for anyway. If your not a progressive then you can't be in power that's your future plus a good dose of sharia law. Cultural Marxism has won the day even in America now. . Tory's just a bunch of state mad progressives; no difference from the rest. It's like watching a theatre only the actors change not much else. I done with it.

oldcolner
21-08-2017, 06:00 PM
This isn't party politics.

The CPS exists to ensure that wrongdoers are brought to justice, victims of crime are supported and that people feel safer in their communities.
It
Advises the police on cases for possible prosecution
Reviews cases submitted by the police for prosecution
Where the decision is to prosecute, determines the charge in the more serious and complex cases
Prepares cases for court
Presents those cases at court

http://www.cps.gov.uk/yourcps.html

Deadlydave
21-08-2017, 06:10 PM
This isn't party politics.

The CPS exists to ensure that wrongdoers are brought to justice, victims of crime are supported and that people feel safer in their communities.
It
Advises the police on cases for possible prosecution
Reviews cases submitted by the police for prosecution
Where the decision is to prosecute, determines the charge in the more serious and complex cases
Prepares cases for court
Presents those cases at court

http://www.cps.gov.uk/yourcps.html

You happy with the State deciding who is charged for what hate crime they decide is worthy of their attention. Highly dangerous in a free society.

oldcolner
21-08-2017, 06:18 PM
You happy with the State deciding who is charged for what hate crime they decide is worthy of their attention. Highly dangerous in a free society.

You misunderstand it's origins.

It is an independent authority here are

Facts about the CPS

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is the principal prosecuting authority for England and Wales.
Established as an independent body in 1986 to prosecute criminal cases, we work closely with the police and other investigators to advise on lines of inquiry and decide on appropriate charges or other outcomes, in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors. CPS prosecutors prepare cases for court and present cases in both the magistrates' courts and the higher courts.
The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) is the head of the CPS and operates independently, under the superintendence of the Attorney General. As a government minister, the Attorney is accountable to Parliament for the work of the CPS.
The CPS consists of: 14 geographical Areas across England and Wales; three Casework Divisions; our CPS Direct service, our CPS Proceeds of Crime and a Headquarters.
A Chief Crown Prosecutor (CCP) leads each Area and is responsible for the provision of a high quality prosecution service. Deputy Chief Crown Prosecutors (DCCP) and Area Business Managers (ABM) assist the CCPs.
The three specialist casework divisions are: the Specialist Fraud Division (which also incorporates Welfare Rural & Health), the Special Crime & Counter Terrorism Division and the International Justice and Organised Crime Division. They deal with challenging cases that require specialist experience, including the prosecution of cases investigated by:
National Crime Agency
UK Border Agency
Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs
Department for Work and Pensions
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Department of Health and
Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency
We are committed to delivering a high quality prosecution service, as expressed in our casework quality standards – while responding to the needs of the victims and witnesses of crime; being open and answerable to the wider public we serve; and offering excellent value for money.
In March 2016 we employed a workforce of approximately 5,461 staff (full time equivalent), comprising 2,131 frontline prosecutors (of whom 302 are Crown Advocates) and 2,970 legal caseworkers and support staff (of whom 197 are Associate Prosecutors). Over 93% of our people work at delivering our frontline prosecution service.

The Bedlington Terrier
21-08-2017, 07:33 PM
Don't fall for this one oldcolner. The CPS are puppets of the Attorney General who is appointed by the Government of the day.

The "We" might just give you a clue...:?

sinkov
21-08-2017, 09:14 PM
You're right BT, the CPS is no more independent than you are, it bends to whichever way the latest PC wind is blowing, which is why they've taken it upon themselves to pander to the latest PC fad, and instigate a crackdown on 'social media hate crime'. This is not the decision of an independent body, it's a blatantly politically driven decision.

Have a look at previous CPS directors, Barbara Mills, member of the Labour Party, David Calvert-Smith, appointed by the CRE to head it's inquiry into racism in the police, tells you all you need to know about his political inclination, Ken MacDonald, now a Lib Dem life peer in the House of Lords, Keir Starmer, a member of Labour's Shadow Cabinet. One PC driven left-wing patsy after another, independent my arse.

Deadlydave
21-08-2017, 09:16 PM
Don't fall for this one oldcolner. The CPS are puppets of the Attorney General who is appointed by the Government of the day.

The "We" might just give you a clue...:?

Spot on BT & Sinkov; when has trusting the State worked out just great when your views oppose the States agenda? The state now sets it's own rules on what can or cannot be tolerated as matter of ciminality - incredibly dangerous.

The Bedlington Terrier
22-08-2017, 05:45 AM
This is the sort of s h i t e that happens when journalists try to question the Government of the day.

Cameron sold his soul, lied through his teeth and let everyone else drown while he sailed off into the sunset leaving Brookes and Coulson deep in the do-do! Blair incidentally, did exactly the same. Where were the CPS when the Chilcot enquiry was revealed?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11652532/The-Andy-Coulson-farce-proves-the-justice-system-needs-urgent-reform.html

1959_60
22-08-2017, 06:53 AM
So...what you are suggesting is anarchy?

Be honest.

The Bedlington Terrier
22-08-2017, 07:30 AM
So...what you are suggesting is anarchy?

Be honest.

No! I am suggesting the right to have independent, investigative journalism free from constant judicial interference and a neutral, honest and transparent Crown Prosecution Service free from Machiavellian political interference.

SERVERNOTRESPONDING
22-08-2017, 07:35 AM
This is how i see it !!!

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sinkov
22-08-2017, 07:53 AM
This is the sort of s h i t e that happens when journalists try to question the Government of the day.

Cameron sold his soul, lied through his teeth and let everyone else drown while he sailed off into the sunset leaving Brookes and Coulson deep in the do-do! Blair incidentally, did exactly the same. Where were the CPS when the Chilcot enquiry was revealed?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11652532/The-Andy-Coulson-farce-proves-the-justice-system-needs-urgent-reform.html

After the politically inspired witch-hunt intended to close down our free press, there was the *** abuse witch hunt against numerous innocent people, mostly well known, who have had their lives ruined, and are now receiving enormous sums in compo, funded of course by us taxpayers. There is one common player in both these scandals whose role should be investigated, but it won't be, that of the BBC.
Their coverage of the phone hacking cases and Leveson was nothing more than blatant ante Murdoch propaganda, a disgraceful misuse of it's privileged position as national broadcaster. It's complicity in allowing Saville free rein for years has never been fully investigated, and it's treatment of Cliff Richard, conniving with the police against a totally innocent man, was yet another scandal they seem to have got away with.

There's just one part of the Telegraph piece I'd disagree with, Fraser Nelson mentions a 'supposedly corrupt establishement'. There's nothing 'supposedly' corrupt about our establishment. It's corruption personified, it's exactly how corruption works in this country, you couldn't get a finer example.

The Bedlington Terrier
22-08-2017, 08:15 AM
I'm starting to get really worried sinkov. I'm getting on board with way too many of your opinions and views lately. :?

1959_60
22-08-2017, 09:52 AM
Wow.

This board sometimes reminds me of a sixth form debating society in the 70's.

outwoodclaret
22-08-2017, 09:57 AM
Wow.

This board sometimes reminds me of a sixth form debating society in the 70's.

I agree there is really healthy debate on this site and we all get along most of the time.

1959_60
22-08-2017, 10:11 AM
Wasn't meant as an insult Outwood - and I enjoy the debates on here.

Some very reactionary views on here - but I love them all :-)

I used to be an ultra lefty back in the day.

There has always been, and always will be, a level of corruption in high places. Not just here but in every country in the world.

It will never change. If we had a peoples revolution then pretty soon the new leaders would become corrupt - be careful what you wish for.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We don't want a dictatorship thank you very much.

At least we have a measure of democracy here - not like some countries.

Which model do you suggest we use for running our affairs?

outwoodclaret
22-08-2017, 10:28 AM
Hi 59-60. I actually went to a school in the 60's which had a Sixth Form debating society. Can't remember if I ever spoke though!

1959_60
22-08-2017, 12:13 PM
Same here Outwood!

I love a good debate.