Notts Match Day Bet Competition – Game 4 Accrington

[60YearsAPie]

Standings After 3 Games
1 ….. tarquinbeech …... +£6.53
2 .... Steward …….…..… +£2.50
3 ….. 60YearsAPie …..... -£1.90
4 ….. countygump …..... -£6.00
5= .. everybody else ... -£15.00

For the rules see the Wycombe game thread.

My selections for Friday night’s game:
£4 Notts to win @ 6/4
£1 Notts to win 3-1 @ 18/1

[countygump]

Standings After 3 Games
1 ….. tarquinbeech …... +£6.53
2 .... Steward …….…..… +£2.50
3 ….. 60YearsAPie …..... -£1.90
4 ….. countygump …..... -£6.00
5= .. everybody else ... -£15.00

For the rules see the Wycombe game thread.

My selections for Friday night’s game:
£4 Notts to win @ 6/4
£1 Notts to win 3-1 @ 18/1


I shall go: £4 Notts to win and £1 on Notts to win 2-0

[skandark]

£2 on Notts to win 3-1
£2 on Notts win
£1 on Accrington win

On my current betting form the likely result is now a draw!

[marshall55]

£2 on 2-2
£2 on Accie win
£1 on Hawkridge to score.

[Notts78]

Notts to win and more than 1.5 goals in the game..

[Steward]

3.00 @ Notts win
2.00 @ Draw

[60YearsAPie]

Notts to win and more than 1.5 goals in the game..

I can’t find a price for this combined bet on Bet365. They only appear to be offering 3/1 for a Notts win & over 2.5 goals.

Let me know if you find one, as I may have missed it.

If not, do you want £2.50 on a Notts win @ 6/4 & £2.50 on over 1.5 goals @ 1/4?

[caj85]

I missed out on the first fixtures so put me down as -£15

I will go with the following
£3 - notts win 3-2 (@25/1)
£2 - Draw (@23/10)

[ancientpie]

I'm only -£15 so now is not the time to go panic betting or chucking good money after bad,so here goes.

£3 Notts to win 5-2

£2 Brisley to score

[60YearsAPie]

I'm only -£15 so now is not the time to go panic betting or chucking good money after bad,so here goes.

£3 Notts to win 5-2

£2 Brisley to score

Wow ancient! I'd like to see what a panic bet would be!

Brisley to score at anytime is 12/1

Notts to win 5-2 is 125/1

If the latter bet comes up we may as well just declare you this season's champion now!

[Jeekay56]

I can’t find a price for this combined bet on Bet365. They only appear to be offering 3/1 for a Notts win & over 2.5 goals.

Let me know if you find one, as I may have missed it.

If not, do you want £2.50 on a Notts win @ 6/4 & £2.50 on over 1.5 goals @ 1/4?

As someone that doesn't bet (never been in a bookies in my life), I'm intrigued by the over 1.5 or 2.5 goals. Is it the same as saying over 1 goal or over 2 goals? Do they give odds on over 3.14159 goals?

[tarquinbeech]

Just got in from a spot of scuba-diving in the Caribbean......sorry to be a pain in the Gluteus Maximus, but I think my winnings are slightly short.

If we start the next week with "minus £5" for losing our bets, surely our "winnings" should include our winning stake?

My bets were:
Decimal BET 365 odds:
£2 - Notts HT/FT 6.00
£1.50 - Notts to win both halves 15
£1.50 Over 3.5 goals 3.75

Bet 1 is now +£12, Bet 2 is -£1.50, Bet 3 is +£5.63 = total +£16.13

I started out the week on -£6.10 (no idea if my previous winning bets were calculated the same way, I need to check).....so I should be +£10.03?....unless I'm not understanding the rules correctly?

[60YearsAPie]

Just got in from a spot of scuba-diving in the Caribbean......sorry to be a pain in the Gluteus Maximus, but I think my winnings are slightly short.

If we start the next week with "minus £5" for losing our bets, surely our "winnings" should include our winning stake?

My bets were:
Decimal BET 365 odds:
£2 - Notts HT/FT 6.00
£1.50 - Notts to win both halves 15
£1.50 Over 3.5 goals 3.75

Bet 1 is now +£12, Bet 2 is -£1.50, Bet 3 is +£5.63 = total +£16.13

I started out the week on -£6.10 (no idea if my previous winning bets were calculated the same way, I need to check).....so I should be +£10.03?....unless I'm not understanding the rules correctly?

Hi Tarkers

Let’s take this weeks as an example.

Fractional odds – Notts to win – 6/4
£1 Stake - £2.50 Return – Profit £1.50

Decimal odds – Notts to win 2.50
£1 Stake - £2.50 Return – Profit £1.50

In other words the decimal odds of 2.50 in fact include the stake. They’re showing the return.

So your figure of +£16.13 includes the stake twice. Knock the £3.50 stake off and you get +£12.63.

Knock your opening balance of -£6.10 and you get an overall profit after 3 weeks of £6.53

Hope that explains it.

If you go right down to the bottom of the page on Bet365, I believe you have an option to change between Fractional and Decimal odds.

If you're in this country the option is at the top of the page.

[60YearsAPie]

As someone that doesn't bet (never been in a bookies in my life), I'm intrigued by the over 1.5 or 2.5 goals. Is it the same as saying over 1 goal or over 2 goals? Do they give odds on over 3.14159 goals?

Yes it looks weird. What the bookies do is give a figure of say 1.5 as an example.

You're then offered odds of under 1.5 (i.e 0 or 1 goal) or over 1.5 (i.e. 2,3,4,5,6 etc goals)

[tarquinbeech]

Hi Tarkers

Let’s take this weeks as an example.

Fractional odds – Notts to win – 6/4
£1 Stake - £2.50 Return – Profit £1.50

Decimal odds – Notts to win 2.50
£1 Stake - £2.50 Return – Profit £1.50

In other words the decimal odds of 2.50 in fact include the stake. They’re showing the return.

So your figure of +£16.13 includes the stake twice. Knock the £3.50 stake off and you get +£12.63.

Knock your opening balance of -£6.10 and you get an overall profit after 3 weeks of £6.53

Hope that explains it.

I understand your post.......what I'm saying, is that if I place a losing bet of £5 (or don't bet at all).....I am -£5....correct?......but if I place a winning bet of £5 at evens, my total should be +£10, not +£5.......you are giving everyone a free £5 to bet BUT they don't start the next week at zero ie they have no winnings, you are putting us at -£5 ie they are a LOSER, having lost their money.....so surely the same rule should apply if I place a WINNING bet....I should keep my winnings PLUS my stake money.....BECAUSE I DIDN'T LOSE IT

I've been traveling for 17 hours so maybe I'm not seeing this correctly.....all I'm saying is.....if I lose my stake money, I understand it goes onto the minus side, BUT if I win, my stake money should be included in the plus side

[60YearsAPie]

I understand your post.......what I'm saying, is that if I place a losing bet of £5 (or don't bet at all).....I am -£5....correct?......but if I place a winning bet of £5 at evens, my total should be +£10, not +£5.......you are giving everyone a free £5 to bet BUT they don't start the next week at zero ie they have no winnings, you are putting us at -£5 ie they are a LOSER, having lost their money.....so surely the same rule should apply if I place a WINNING bet....I should keep my winnings PLUS my stake money.....BECAUSE I DIDN'T LOSE IT

I've been traveling for 17 hours so maybe I'm not seeing this correctly.....all I'm saying is.....if I lose my stake money, I understand it goes onto the minus side, BUT if I win, my stake money should be included in the plus side

My bets were:
Decimal BET 365 odds:
£2 - Notts HT/FT 6.00
£1.50 - Notts to win both halves 15
£1.50 Over 3.5 goals 3.75

Bet 1 is now +£12, Bet 2 is -£1.50, Bet 3 is +£5.63 = total +£16.13 ---- NO, Yes and NO

Bet 1 Odds 5/1 : Bet 2 Odds 14/1 : Bet 3 Odds 11/4

So Bet 1 is now +£10, Bet 2 is -£1.50, Bet 3 is +£4.13 = Total +£12.63

[tarquinbeech]

I understand your post.......what I'm saying, is that if I place a losing bet of £5 (or don't bet at all).....I am -£5....correct?......but if I place a winning bet of £5 at evens, my total should be +£10, not +£5.......you are giving everyone a free £5 to bet BUT they don't start the next week at zero ie they have no winnings, you are putting us at -£5 ie they are a LOSER, having lost their money.....so surely the same rule should apply if I place a WINNING bet....I should keep my winnings PLUS my stake money.....BECAUSE I DIDN'T LOSE IT

I've been traveling for 17 hours so maybe I'm not seeing this correctly.....all I'm saying is.....if I lose my stake money, I understand it goes onto the minus side, BUT if I win, my stake money should be included in the plus side

....another way to explain this:

there are lots of people on minus £15, because they either LOST their stake money or didn't bet.......BUT when they do win, you are only giving them their winnings, not their stake money back.....if one side is their LOSING stakes, the other side should be winnings PLUS their returned stake money

[tarquinbeech]

My bets were:
Decimal BET 365 odds:
£2 - Notts HT/FT 6.00
£1.50 - Notts to win both halves 15
£1.50 Over 3.5 goals 3.75

Bet 1 is now +£12, Bet 2 is -£1.50, Bet 3 is +£5.63 = total +£16.13 ---- NO, Yes and NO

Bet 1 Odds 5/1 : Bet 2 Odds 14/1 : Bet 3 Odds 11/4

So Bet 1 is now +£10, Bet 2 is -£1.50, Bet 3 is +£4.13 = Total +£12.63

You have just basically answered my query........you are giving me a MINUS £1.50 for a losing bet (not a zero winnings).....but on the two winning bets you are only clocking up my winnings....not giving me my stake back......can someone else join in please!!

[Elite_Pie]

You have just basically answered my query........you are giving me a MINUS £1.50 for a losing bet (not a zero winnings).....but on the two winning bets you are only clocking up my winnings....not giving me my stake back......can someone else join in please!!

Have to agree with you Tarquin. It should either be an invisible £5 stake where a losing bet is settled at £0.00 and a 2/1 winning bet is settled at +£10.00, or a pretend £5 stake where a losing bet is settled at -£5.00 and a 2/1 winning bet is settled at +£15.00. Only a real mug punter would patronise a bookie who keeps your fiver when you lose but doesn't include it in your returns when you win!

[tarquinbeech]

Have to agree with you Tarquin. It should either be an invisible £5 stake where a losing bet is settled at £0.00 and a 2/1 winning bet is settled at +£10.00, or a pretend £5 stake where a losing bet is settled at -£5.00 and a 2/1 winning bet is settled at +£15.00. Only a real mug punter would patronise a bookie who keeps your fiver when you lose but doesn't include it in your returns when you win!

Thank you EP, I thought it was me going crazy from the "bends"........if I have a winner, then I should be credited with the stake money as well BECAUSE if I lose, I automatically go into the "minus" column by the stated rules.

ps When are you off to Cuba?...... had a great time on the Caribbean coast though the mozzies have left my legs in a mess....Hurricane Harvey fizzled out, loads of rain to hatch out the eggs, not enough wind to hold them at bay.

[Elite_Pie]

Thank you EP, I thought it was me going crazy from the "bends"........if I have a winner, then I should be credited with the stake money as well BECAUSE if I lose, I automatically go into the "minus" column by the stated rules.

I don't suppose it's that important because everyone is treated (cheated) the same, it's just that normal bookies rules will give a better idea of actual profit and loss. Let's just say that Bet60YAP.com won't get me signing up!


ps When are you off to Cuba?...... had a great time on the Caribbean coast though the mozzies have left my legs in a mess....Hurricane Harvey fizzled out, loads of rain to hatch out the eggs, not enough wind to hold them at bay.

Flying out on Tuesday, and my wife has taken up half my bloody suitcase with 'medical supplies'. We are well ready to take on the Cuban mozzies, along with diarrhea / constipation and any other ailments you can think of!

[tarquinbeech]

I don't suppose it's that important because everyone is treated (cheated) the same, it's just that normal bookies rules will give a better idea of actual profit and loss. Let's just say that Bet60YAP.com won't get me signing up!



Flying out on Tuesday, and my wife has taken up half my bloody suitcase with 'medical supplies'. We are well ready to take on the Cuban mozzies, along with diarrhea / constipation and any other ailments you can think of!

60 has got a tough job keeping this going for 42 more games and I don't envy him, but if we don't get credited with the winning stake money then everyone is going to end up on minuses by the end of the season UNLESS they hit the big 4-2 or 4-1 correct score odds at 50s (which I note more and more are starting to back).

Under this format, it doesn't pay to back sensible results (corners or goals) at short odds.....all I know is that I replicate my bets here on 365, and I'm in decent profit after this last weekend.

ps I know what you mean about "hogging" the suitcase....we ended up with a giant conch-shell, a wooden turtle and a load of bottled spices in our suitcase....and got stung for excess baggage at Cancun airport at 4am this morning....I refused to pay it and told Miriam to get her credit card out....she sulked for the next 4 hours....ouch.

[60YearsAPie]

How about this then.

Using EP’s example, everyone gets £5 each week.

I lose so stand at £0. You win with a 2/1 and stand at £10 winnings plus £5 stake = £15.

1. Tarkers …....… £15
2. 60 YearsAPie … £0

My way, I’m looking at profit and losses on the bets. You made a £10 profit; I made a £5 loss.

So my table would look like this:

1. Tarkers ….... +£10
2. 60YearsAPie … -£5

The difference between us is still £15 whichever way you look at it.

[60YearsAPie]

My final effort to explain this to you Tarkers.

Here are your bets so far in the competition.

There is no question that stake money hasn't been taken into account.

The overall profit shows £6.53 as per the table at the beginning of this thread.

6090

[tarquinbeech]

My final effort to explain this to you Tarkers.

Here are your bets so far in the competition.

There is no question that stake money hasn't been taken into account.

The overall profit shows £6.53 as per the table at the beginning of this thread.

6090

.....my apologies, we've made the rules, let's stick to them

[i961pie]

£3 Notts to win
£2 draw

[tarquinbeech]

Fractional Odds

£1 on Notts HT/FT@3/1

£1 on Notts to win both halves@8/1

£1 on Notts to win 4-1@40/1

£2 on Notts to win@6/4

[queenslandpie]

Fractional Odds

£1 on Notts HT/FT@3/1

£1 on Notts to win both halves@8/1

£1 on Notts to win 4-1@40/1

£2 on Notts to win@6/4

5 pounds on Acrrington to Win at whatever price that is.

[rorylee]

All Bet 365

Notts 3 Stanley 1 - 19/1 - £1
Notts to win and both teams to score - 15/4 - £1
Forte to score to 2 or more - 14/1 - £1
Dan Jones to score - 11/1 - £1
ni nil draw - 10/1 - £1

[magpie]

£5 on Brisley to score at anytime 12-1.

Thank you

[60YearsAPie]

Thanks to correctly forecasting the score, for a profit of £21 on his three bets, marshall55 breaks out the pack to become the new overall leader.

As that was the last game this month, he also takes the Tipster of the Month award for August

Standings After 4 Games
1 ….. marshall55 ….…. +£6.00
2 ….. Steward …………. +£4.10
3 ….. tarquinbeech .... +£1.53
4 ….. 60YearsAPie ..... -£6.90
5 ….. countygump …... -£11.00
6= … caj85 …………..... -£13.40
6= … i961pie …….….... -£13.40
8 ….. Notts78 ………..… -£16.88
9 ….. everybody else .. -£20.00

[marshall55]

ah ah, and i have never been in a bookies, cheers 60YAP.

[60YearsAPie]

ah ah, and i have never been in a bookies, cheers 60YAP.

54 years ago I visited a bookies for the first time. In fact 1963 introduced me to smoking, drinking, women and gambling. Gambling has cost me the least money over the years.

[tarquinbeech]

54 years ago I visited a bookies for the first time. In fact 1963 introduced me to smoking, drinking, women and gambling. Gambling has cost me the least money over the years.

Women and gambling are the same thing!..............invest a stack of money at ridiculously short odds, pray for a decent result.....wait 5 years and count your losses.....slap yourself on the head and promise yourself that you've learnt your lesson...6 months later you feel the "itch"......repeat all the above steps!

Russian Roulette has much better odds.....and is a lot less painful

Anyone seeking advice about women....e-mail me at SuicidalTarquin@ChopOffYourTodger.Com

[ancientpie]

Women and gambling are the same thing!..............invest a stack of money at ridiculously short odds, pray for a decent result.....wait 5 years and count your losses.....slap yourself on the head and promise yourself that you've learnt your lesson...6 months later you feel the "itch"......repeat all the above steps!

Russian Roulette has much better odds.....and is a lot less painful

Anyone seeking advice about women....e-mail me at SuicidalTarquin@ChopOffYourTodger.Com

Hope that doesn't mean that your latest "love affair" hasn't gone tits up Tarks, any way back on topic I think I was robbed yesterday, my 125/1 5-2 bet would have been a certainty if it wasn't for their bloody goalie!!!

[tarquinbeech]

Hope that doesn't mean that your latest "love affair" hasn't gone tits up Tarks, any way back on topic I think I was robbed yesterday, my 125/1 5-2 bet would have been a certainty if it wasn't for their bloody goalie!!!

I am treating this latest assignation as a business decision, I don't speak Mexicano...plus I have no medical insurance....hence an English-speaking doctor fits the bill perfectly....she also has her own car, her own house, pension x 2 and a decent job.

I wish I'd figured this out 40 years ago!!

On topic - I had Notts ht/ft plus Notts to win....hence my demotion down the league table from position numero uno......I'm fuming about the Accy equaliser

I had the same bets on 365, plus the correct goals and corners, but I managed to cash out the Notts bets for a decent profit....I could see Accy were making a comeback

[countygump]

ah ah, and i have never been in a bookies, cheers 60YAP.

Actually, I have never been in a bookies and have never placed a bet in me life AIH. Never saw the attraction.

Is it toooooo late for a fiver on a 2-2 draw???

[60YearsAPie]

ah ah, and i have never been in a bookies, cheers 60YAP.


Actually, I have never been in a bookies and have never placed a bet in me life AIH. Never saw the attraction.

Is it toooooo late for a fiver on a 2-2 draw???

No gumpy, it’s not too late to put a fiver on 2-2. That’d be for the game against Port Vale?

Interesting that two of the top five (marshall55 and gumpy) in our competition have never been in a bookies.

Have you ever bought a lottery ticket or done the pools?

[queenslandpie]

No gumpy, it’s not too late to put a fiver on 2-2. That’d be for the game against Port Vale?

Interesting that two of the top five (marshall55 and gumpy) in our competition have never been in a bookies.

Have you ever bought a lottery ticket or done the pools?

I rarely if ever go in a bookies and almost never gamble ( I make up for it with my alcohol consumption) and was considering making my bets the opposite of eLite pies just to see what happens but then I worked out that would be more complex than I thought so I have just done random betting instead. So far I have reaped what I have sown!

[countygump]

No gumpy, it’s not too late to put a fiver on 2-2. That’d be for the game against Port Vale?

Interesting that two of the top five (marshall55 and gumpy) in our competition have never been in a bookies.

Have you ever bought a lottery ticket or done the pools?

Never done the pools but I do buy a lotto ticket on a Sat only. Even that's a bit of a waste of time as statistically, you have more chance of being struck by lightning than winning the lotto but as the man sez, you need to be innitt to winnitt.