O/T:- Hurricane Harvey

[tarquinbeech]

Hurricane Season has started here in the Mexican Gulf/Caribbean.....and this is a monster, about 450 miles wide and a Category 2 Hurricane.......the outer bands hit Texas at 8am here and the eye is still 150 miles south-east of Corpus Christi, Texas.

Rainfall predictions are 24 inches in 2 days (over a year's-worth of rain!!) with a storm surge of anywhere between 3 feet and 10 feet.

Rainfall map can be updated every 15 minutes and there is a "play" button to see this thing coming in to the coast.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/corpus-christi-tx/78401/weather-radar/331130

[tarquinbeech]

Hurricane Season has started here in the Mexican Gulf/Caribbean.....and this is a monster, about 450 miles wide and a Category 2 Hurricane.......the outer bands hit Texas at 8am here and the eye is still 150 miles south-east of Corpus Christi, Texas.

Rainfall predictions are 24 inches in 2 days (over a year's-worth of rain!!) with a storm surge of anywhere between 3 feet and 10 feet.

Rainfall map can be updated every 15 minutes and there is a "play" button to see this thing coming in to the coast.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/corpus-christi-tx/78401/weather-radar/331130

17 million people to be affected....major evacuations under way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Mn-EPNtt0

[LaughingMagpie]

Hurricane Season has started here in the Mexican Gulf/Caribbean.....and this is a monster, about 450 miles wide and a Category 2 Hurricane.......the outer bands hit Texas at 8am here and the eye is still 150 miles south-east of Corpus Christi, Texas.

Rainfall predictions are 24 inches in 2 days (over a year's-worth of rain!!) with a storm surge of anywhere between 3 feet and 10 feet.

Rainfall map can be updated every 15 minutes and there is a "play" button to see this thing coming in to the coast.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/corpus-christi-tx/78401/weather-radar/331130

Stay safe Tarkers

It wouldn't be the same without you!

[uysapie]

My friends in Houston are going to get seriously wet.

[tarquinbeech]

Stay safe Tarkers

It wouldn't be the same without you!

Cheers Laughing, though some may disagree with you!!

This monster started off the African Coast 10 days ago (for any weather geeks like me out there, the area south of the Azores is the breeding ground for Atlantic hurricanes, between 8 and 20 degrees north of the equator and 26.5 degrees centigrade).....it tracked westwards off the South American continent, swung into the Mexican Yucatan, south of Cuba on Monday night and stalled.....I took some live pics of it as it passed over my head on a beach north of Belize on the Mexican coast........yesterday it picked up heat energy from the Gulf, and literally went beserk feeding on the Gulf moisture.

Here is a tracking video for those interested......watch the tracking circle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqi4dCnrJAc

[Old_pie]

Cheers Laughing, though some may disagree with you!!

This monster started off the African Coast 10 days ago (for any weather geeks like me out there, the area south of the Azores is the breeding ground for Atlantic hurricanes, between 8 and 20 degrees north of the equator and 26.5 degrees centigrade).....it tracked westwards off the South American continent, swung into the Mexican Yucatan, south of Cuba on Monday night and stalled.....I took some live pics of it as it passed over my head on a beach north of Belize on the Mexican coast........yesterday it picked up heat energy from the Gulf, and literally went beserk feeding on the Gulf moisture.

Here is a tracking video for those interested......watch the tracking circle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqi4dCnrJAc

So hasn't Trump threatened it with appropriate, or even inappropriate, action.

For anyone wanting to look at world weather at any altitude with a number of parameters then

https://earth.nullschool.net

makes good viewing.

[tarquinbeech]

So hasn't Trump threatened it with appropriate, or even inappropriate, action.

For anyone wanting to look at world weather at any altitude with a number of parameters then

https://earth.nullschool.net

makes good viewing.

.....and anyone interested in World Weather temps, Ocean temps, Sea Ice.....pretty much anything anywhere climate-related....a superb tool that I use daily

http://cci-reanalyzer.org/

[tarquinbeech]

Apologies for the ****ty sound......myself and Miriam sat drinking beers/White Russians, whilst Hurricane Harvey hits the Mexican coast around us 5 days ago........................... on it's way to smash Texas

https://youtu.be/xwU4yyKF1kA

[tarquinbeech]

Upgraded to Category 3....125 mph winds.....4 feet of rain plus 8 feet of tidal surge.....this is a MONSTER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acap3IrCYYk

[SwalePie]

Upgraded to Category 3....125 mph winds.....4 feet of rain plus 8 feet of tidal surge.....this is a MONSTER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acap3IrCYYk

And just for good measure, look who's running the show!

"Texas is facing a "very major disaster" as Hurricane Harvey approaches its coastline, the state's governor says.
Harvey, currently a category three storm in the Gulf of Mexico, will make landfall on Texas' central coast late on Friday or early on Saturday. Greg Abbott has asked for more federal aid to cope with the storm, which may be the worst to hit the US in 12 years."

[CookieGuy]

And just for good measure, look who's running the show!

"Texas is facing a "very major disaster" as Hurricane Harvey approaches its coastline, the state's governor says.
Harvey, currently a category three storm in the Gulf of Mexico, will make landfall on Texas' central coast late on Friday or early on Saturday. Greg Abbott has asked for more federal aid to cope with the storm, which may be the worst to hit the US in 12 years."

I'm here in Houston☹️
I've been through plenty of hurricanes in the past when I lived in Florida. However this category 4 hurricane is going to dump 3 feet of rain on us in 72 hours and then some.
Reminds me of many a bank holiday in Mablethorpe to be honest!
COYP

[tarquinbeech]

I'm here in Houston☹️
I've been through plenty of hurricanes in the past when I lived in Florida. However this category 4 hurricane is going to dump 3 feet of rain on us in 72 hours and then some.
Reminds me of many a bank holiday in Mablethorpe to be honest!
COYP

Still a monster storm......I'm 476 miles south of Corpus Christi by road, 400 miles as the crow flies, and it's been hammering down for 4 hours now, I've lost power briefly and the thunder and lightening is impressive.

Candles are lit and the beer is cold.....quite romantic

[tarquinbeech]

I'm bored....so I did some research

An average white puffy cloud contains 216,000 lbs of water

A dark-coloured cumulus nimbus contains 105.8 million lbs of water.

An average hurricane contains 108 billion lbs of water.....and this thing is enormous, certainly bigger than "average"

[sidders]

President Trump said: "This is one of the biggest storms in the history of the world. In fact the biggestest ever. Even so, there are some very fine winds in that storm. Not all the violence is on one side. Climate change is simply a hoax to get America to pay out more money for ... er, storm damage."

[tarquinbeech]

Day 2 - 20 inches of rain in the Houston area of over 2 million people....6 inches in the last hour alone.

Predictions for another 20 inches over days 3 and 4......the advice is NOT to hide in the attic....unless you take an axe!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtkqkRNAjFM

[tarquinbeech]

Day 2 - 20 inches of rain in the Houston area of over 2 million people....6 inches in the last hour alone.

Predictions for another 20 inches over days 3 and 4......the advice is NOT to hide in the attic....unless you take an axe!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtkqkRNAjFM

Live pics of a group of guys rescuing a car driver....where the car was 75% underwater.....amazing

[tarquinbeech]

Live pics of a group of guys rescuing a car driver....where the car was 75% underwater.....amazing

One of the Houston TV stations, KHOU 11, abandons the ground-floor studios due to flooding and relocate to higher floors....there is another 4 days of this to go.....incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWuk5BgKUO8

[tarquinbeech]

One of the Houston TV stations, KHOU 11, abandons the ground-floor studios due to flooding and relocate to higher floors....there is another 4 days of this to go.....incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWuk5BgKUO8

KHOU literally abandon ship whilst filming a semi-truck stuck on the Beltway approaching 16 feet of water.....their HQ studios flooded and cut-off in mid-broadcast.....no idea what happened to the truck driver stuck inside the cab.....TBH, anyone trying to drive anywhere in Houston is crazy, I'd find 24 cans and some high ground!!

Fox 26 live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9RCWX6aSNY

[tarquinbeech]

KHOU literally abandon ship whilst filming a semi-truck stuck on the Beltway approaching 16 feet of water.....their HQ studios flooded and cut-off in mid-broadcast.....no idea what happened to the truck driver stuck inside the cab.....TBH, anyone trying to drive anywhere in Houston is crazy, I'd find 24 cans and some high ground!!

Fox 26 live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9RCWX6aSNY

KHOU TV twitter.......video of the ground floor flooding.......studios now evacuated

https://twitter.com/sallykhou11?lang=en

[sidders]

KHOU TV twitter.......video of the ground floor flooding.......studios now evacuated

https://twitter.com/sallykhou11?lang=en

Many Americans fail to link happenings like this with Trump's stance on climate change. You reap what you sow

[uysapie]

Many Americans fail to link happenings like this with Trump's stance on climate change. You reap what you sow

So explain Katrina, Wilma, and other hurricanes.

[JoePass]

So explain Katrina, Wilma, and other hurricanes.


He does not have to , he is a Corbynista...

[tarquinbeech]

Many Americans fail to link happenings like this with Trump's stance on climate change. You reap what you sow

I completely agree Sid.....very few people in the world understand that we are killing our planet.......diving in the Mayan reef last week, huge areas were "bleached"....the 4 divers with me explained that every year it gets worse......the oceans are too hot and poisoned by excess Co2...plastic....it's truly horrifying once you understand what we've done.

Nobody really cares....it's sad

KHOU 11 is back up and running, well done guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWwqIO_4VNw

[tarquinbeech]

Houston will deliberately flood areas around downtown tonight by releasing water from the lake-holding areas.....the worry is that the lakes and holding walls/levee walls will collapse (similar to what happened in New Orleans) and hundreds/thousands will be killed.......a slow release means that people have time to escape....it starts in a few hours....this is now a once-in-a 500 year-flood

This has never been attempted before....4,000 cubic feet per second from just one of the lakes

[sidders]

So explain Katrina, Wilma, and other hurricanes.

Yup, climate change was a major factor in all of them. Are you so dumb you thought I was blaming Trump for this hurricane? I only blame him for turning a blind eye to its causes.
For the ump****th time, I am not pro-Corbyn. My hope is that Starmer will come to the fore. I certainly like where he is at the moment.

[drillerpie]

They were all described as 'once in X amount of years' but a quick tally up shows they are about once every four years now.

The vast majority of human beings won't heed the warnings and won't do anything until it directly affects them. Huge corporations know what's happening but pay people to pretend it isn't.

Wouldn't it be nice also if the UN Security Council just for one day stopped trolling each other and discussed dedicating a minuscule part of their budgets to fishing the great maelstroms of plastic out the sea?

[seriouspie]

Houston will deliberately flood areas around downtown tonight by releasing water from the lake-holding areas.....the worry is that the lakes and holding walls/levee walls will collapse (similar to what happened in New Orleans) and hundreds/thousands will be killed.......a slow release means that people have time to escape....it starts in a few hours....this is now a once-in-a 500 year-flood

This has never been attempted before....4,000 cubic feet per second from just one of the lakes

The walls will hold Tarks.

The Yanks know a thing or two about water pressures/volumes. Think Hoover and Grand Coulie - similar principle but Alty will put us right if he reads this.

[sidders]

The walls will hold Tarks.

The Yanks know a thing or two about water pressures/volumes. Think Hoover and Grand Coulie - similar principle but Alty will put us right if he reads this.

And the Brits thought they knew how to build safe tower blocks...

[drillerpie]

The walls will hold Tarks.

The Yanks know a thing or two about water pressures/volumes. Think Hoover and Grand Coulie - similar principle but Alty will put us right if he reads this.

New Orleans?

[crazyfists]

I completely agree Sid.....very few people in the world understand that we are killing our planet.......diving in the Mayan reef last week, huge areas were "bleached"....the 4 divers with me explained that every year it gets worse......the oceans are too hot and poisoned by excess Co2...plastic....it's truly horrifying once you understand what we've done.

Nobody really cares....it's sad

KHOU 11 is back up and running, well done guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWwqIO_4VNw

Agree with you tarkers 100%, the way we treat the planet and other inhabitants is disgusting. The I'm all right jack mentality of the human race will kill us all.

[seriouspie]

And the Brits thought they knew how to build safe tower blocks...

True in the instance I think you refer to - but I was talking about water management/containment etc.

[seriouspie]

New Orleans?

Caused by hurricane Katrina son ............ forces of nature, not human negligence.

[drillerpie]

Caused by hurricane Katrina son ............ forces of nature, not human negligence.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Pretty sure this whole thread is about a hurricane though.

[theory_extinct]

Caused by hurricane Katrina son ............ forces of nature, not human negligence.

The failure of the levee in New Orleans was found to be down to inadequate design and construction. In other words, human negligence.

[tarquinbeech]

Not sure why Sid has mentioned tower blocks (which were built correctly BTW, but later "beautified" incorrectly)?

New Orleans was partly due to incorrect upkeep of levee walls (I visited there the year after and took the "flood tour").....why anyone would build thousands of homes BELOW sea level within yards of a shoddy "Yosser" wall is beyond me.

Anyone who knows anything about Climate, knows the world is warming faster than Nature can keep up.....the Oceans heat slower BUT retain heat longer and at some point have to vent that heat back into a polluted atmosphere....El Nino is the classic example where the western Pacific just cannot retain the excess heat blown westwards from South America, so Nature takes over and vents it every 4 or 5 years.

Now the Gulf is doing the same.....ReAnalyser shows massive build-up of heat that fuels the Hurricane Season....the problem we have is that naturally-occurring storms are becoming more intense and more frequent.

This is not helped by cities like Houston growing rapidly, more people = more cement, more roads, more tarmac.....floodplains get build over with shopping malls and carparks....nobody will learn, FEMA will pay out trillions of dollars and life goes back to "normal"

[tarquinbeech]

One man's campaign, Brad Lancaster, to change the way we see nature and how he changed the city's planning of future homes. One day we all need to think like this, before it's too late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2xDZlpInik

Now I'm always a little sceptical of these people telling us how to live....how do they live? Look at his house.....amazing ingenuity, most self-taught.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcAMXm9zITg

[tarquinbeech]

Divers/coastguard searching for a submerged van that has been swept away with a full family inside, 3 adults and 4 children reported.

Day 3 and it's still lashing down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWwqIO_4VNw

[Newcy Wolf]

One man's campaign, Brad Lancaster, to change the way we see nature and how he changed the city's planning of future homes. One day we all need to think like this, before it's too late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2xDZlpInik

Now I'm always a little sceptical of these people telling us how to live....how do they live? Look at his house.....amazing ingenuity, most self-taught.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcAMXm9zITg

Wonderful stuff, glad you posted that.

Quite humbling.

[tarquinbeech]

Wonderful stuff, glad you posted that.

Quite humbling.

Thank you....here's another.

This guy is definitely slightly crazy....but funny.....he's built his house on plastic bottles, crates, anything he can find and shows tourists around.

Good viewing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnLhWpy_nqI

[tarquinbeech]

Houston Day 4 - Severe flooding continuing to increase, maximum heights will not be reached until 31st August/1st Sept........9 deaths to date

Both holding reservoirs (built in the 1930s after severe floods in the 1920s and 30s) are now full to capacity at 110 feet....despite controlled releases over the last 2 days......basically they are flooding faster than they can empty them and may take several months to drain them to safer levels.

Later today they will deliberately allow the reservoirs to over-spill the sides and flood streets and homes upstream.....evacuations are ongoing.

Moral of the story......in a constantly warming atmosphere, don't buy a home near a coast or a river floodplain and buy a good elevation map before parting with your dosh....most insurance companies will no longer insure homes in certain areas..... or have ridiculously high excesses.

ps There is extensive flooding in the Indian capital, Mumbai today, and yet more tropical storms forming just off the African coast, one off the Mexican west coast and another off the North Carolina coast.......Hurricane Season is in full flow.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/?epac

[tarquinbeech]

To put Harvey into context....the story of a super-typhoon, from the first tiny disturbance spotted on a US radar....to the young man burying his whole family on a hillside in graves he dug himself by hand......absolutely gut-wrenching scenes.

6,000 deaths and a whole city razed to the ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DxYbnWmM-0

[tarquinbeech]

As Harvey tracks through the Southern USA, leaving 25 deaths and billions of $$$s in damage........so the next one lines itself up to make a run into the Gulf

Irma, not the prettiest of names (apologies to any Irmas out there), looks to be bigger and nastier than Harvey.....now it's a question of watching and waiting to see if it makes landfall 10 days from now.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

ps I'm currently on the "dirty" side of Tropical Storm Lidia running up the west coast of Mexico.....nice steady rain here, the tomatoes are loving it.

[drillerpie]

If that one turns out to be the second 'once every 500 years' storm in two weeks I wonder if they'll get the message?

[tarquinbeech]

If that one turns out to be the second 'once every 500 years' storm in two weeks I wonder if they'll get the message?

They might, if it hits Trump's Florida Golf Course.....while he's in it!!

[drillerpie]

They might, if it hits Trump's Florida Golf Course.....while he's in it!!

A win / win if ever there was one!

[tarquinbeech]

Well that moved quickly....Irma is now officially a Hurricane, with 100 mph winds....by tonight it's predicted to be a Major Hurricane with +110 mph winds

Quote from the hurricane centre, NHC....."Maximum sustained winds have increased to near 100 mph (155 km/h)
with higher gusts. Irma is forecast to become a major hurricane by
tonight and is expected to be an extremely dangerous hurricane for
the next several days."

Odds on Florida anyone?

[sidders]

Why are a few American deaths so much more important on the global scale than the 1,200 so far recorded in the floods in India, Nepal and Bangladesh?
Is there a scale of suffering whereby white, English-speaking people's lives are so much more important? Or could it be that the pictures are so much easier to import from the United Snakes?

[upthemaggies]

Why are a few American deaths so much more important on the global scale than the 1,200 so far recorded in the floods in India, Nepal and Bangladesh?
Is there a scale of suffering whereby white, English-speaking people's lives are so much more important? Or could it be that the pictures are so much easier to import from the United Snakes?

I'd say it's for a number of reasons....
1. The majority of English people relate to the American way of life much more than they do central Asia, so they're more likely to be interested in what's happening over the Atlantic.
2. It's news because we don't or are not supposed to expect this sort of thing to happen in the most materially developed country on Earth.
3. Ordinary people in the USA involved in the crisis giving their reaction to camera speak the same language as us, it's much easier to empathise and become engaged than you would if you're listening to a translator or reading subtitles.
4. There are political reasons why the spotlight should be shone onto the USA. If any country needs to do something about climate change, it's them, so it's not necessarily a bad thing if they and everyone else is under the impression that climate change will affect the USA far more than anybody else, but of course they do have more resources than any other country to deal with this type of problem. In terms of practical help, we should be directing our attention elsewhere.

[sidders]

I'd say it's for a number of reasons....
1. The majority of English people relate to the American way of life much more than they do central Asia, so they're more likely to be interested in what's happening over the Atlantic.
2. It's news because we don't or are not supposed to expect this sort of thing to happen in the most materially developed country on Earth.
3. Ordinary people in the USA involved in the crisis giving their reaction to camera speak the same language as us, it's much easier to empathise and become engaged than you would if you're listening to a translator or reading subtitles.
4. There are political reasons why the spotlight should be shone onto the USA. If any country needs to do something about climate change, it's them, so it's not necessarily a bad thing if they and everyone else is under the impression that climate change will affect the USA far more than anybody else, but of course they do have more resources than any other country to deal with this type of problem. In terms of practical help, we should be directing our attention elsewhere.

What an excellent response, utm!

[SwalePie]

I'd say it's for a number of reasons....
1. The majority of English people relate to the American way of life much more than they do central Asia, so they're more likely to be interested in what's happening over the Atlantic.
2. It's news because we don't or are not supposed to expect this sort of thing to happen in the most materially developed country on Earth.
3. Ordinary people in the USA involved in the crisis giving their reaction to camera speak the same language as us, it's much easier to empathise and become engaged than you would if you're listening to a translator or reading subtitles.
4. There are political reasons why the spotlight should be shone onto the USA. If any country needs to do something about climate change, it's them, so it's not necessarily a bad thing if they and everyone else is under the impression that climate change will affect the USA far more than anybody else, but of course they do have more resources than any other country to deal with this type of problem. In terms of practical help, we should be directing our attention elsewhere.

Spot on on all counts.

[tarquinbeech]

Why are a few American deaths so much more important on the global scale than the 1,200 so far recorded in the floods in India, Nepal and Bangladesh?
Is there a scale of suffering whereby white, English-speaking people's lives are so much more important? Or could it be that the pictures are so much easier to import from the United Snakes?

I did actually mention the Indian deaths in my earlier post......the problem is that Indian/Asian/Chinese deaths are a lot less important than a dozen fat porkers pulled out of the Houston flood-plain......it's as simple as that....now lets hope that Irma smashes into Florida.......maybe then they will listen

[tarquinbeech]

If that one turns out to be the second 'once every 500 years' storm in two weeks I wonder if they'll get the message?

Up early here...match day.

Whilst I was waiting, I ran a few weather models to predict Hurricane Irma's path for next week.....a notoriously unreliable tool over 5 days out, BUT....
two of the models have Irma slamming into New York City on Sunday 10th...mmmm (one of the models has it still off the Florida Coast)

Here's a peek

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=39.8;-81.9;3&l=rain-3h&t=20170910/12

[tarquinbeech]

They might, if it hits Trump's Florida Golf Course.....while he's in it!!

The early morning model runs of Hurricane Irma....has it hitting Miami and Palm Beach in 7 days time with winds of 100+ mph, before going on to hit both Tampa and Orlando

Models are notoriously unreliable over 4 days out.....but interesting all the same

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=28.30;-81.80;6&l=wind&t=20170912/00

[tarquinbeech]

Irma is now officially in equal 5th place as the strongest Atlantic Hurricane ever recorded....note that all these "super-storms" are pretty recent apart from the Labor Day hurricane of 1935

Allen___ 1980 190mph
"Labor Day" 1935 185mph
Gilbert__ 1988 185mph
Wilma__ 2005 185mph
Mitch___ 1998 180mph
Rita____ 2005 180mph
Irma___ 2017 180mph

Most models are now predicting a direct hit on South Florida on Sunday morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgY9YpZAoM

[drillerpie]

Irma is now officially in equal 5th place as the strongest Atlantic Hurricane ever recorded....note that all these "super-storms" are pretty recent apart from the Labor Day hurricane of 1935

Allen___ 1980 190mph
"Labor Day" 1935 185mph
Gilbert__ 1988 185mph
Wilma__ 2005 185mph
Mitch___ 1998 180mph
Rita____ 2005 180mph
Irma___ 2017 180mph

Most models are now predicting a direct hit on South Florida on Sunday morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgY9YpZAoM

That's staggering isn't it? And for how long have they been measuring them?

[tarquinbeech]

That's staggering isn't it? And for how long have they been measuring them?

1851....though I'm not sure that instruments back then were too sophisticated

There is a chart near the bottom of this Wiki article that shows the number of Atlantic storms each year from 1851, just eye-balling it, you can see the dramatic increase since the 1930s which corresponds with our exponential use of fossil fuels......the last 20/25 years also shows a further dramatic rise (use the left and right arrows on the chart)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricane_records

[tarquinbeech]

In 1903 just under 63,000 cars were built in the world.

By 1910 there were 100,000 cars in Great Britain alone.

By 1968 the worldwide figure had increased to 170 million; a figure that had more than doubled to 375 million by 1985.

In 2002 there were 530 million cars worldwide, in 2010, that figure had jumped to 1 Billion cars world-wide.

[tarquinbeech]

Irma is now the 2nd biggest Atlantic storm in recorded history....185mph with gusts of 225mph.....almost every model has it hitting Florida on Sunday

[SolSigns]

Irma is now the 2nd biggest Atlantic storm in recorded history....185mph with gusts of 225mph.....almost every model has it hitting Florida on Sunday

To put the numbers in some kind of context, the Great Storm of 1987 that probably many of us can remember clearly (I was at an unforgettable roof party in Swiss Cottage) had peak winds of 120 mph.

[sidders]

Irma is now the 2nd biggest Atlantic storm in recorded history....185mph with gusts of 225mph.....almost every model has it hitting Florida on Sunday

Please, please visit your golf course on Sunday, Mr Trump.

[tarquinbeech]

Hurricane Irma has pretty much flattened 4 islands already (Barbuda has 1,600 residents and is reporting 100% of homes either severely damaged or wiped away)....and it's gaining strength as it heads for Puerto Rico, Cuba and Florida!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-WDrsX-OTc

Two more Hurricanes have formed in the over-heated waters....Jose is following Irma and Katia will hit Mexico on Saturday

[tarquinbeech]

Barbuda to be evacuated if Jose comes close......Anguilla reported to be worse but little contact, St Mar**** has the Dutch Army ready to move in to assist.

Trump's St Mar**** house for sale at $17 million......not sure if it's still intact but you can leave a cash offer here!!

http://www.sothebysrealty.com/eng/sales/detail/180-l-3989-qz6f4w/chateau-des-palmiers-terres-basses-mi-97150

Mexico's Katia TS/Hurricane growing rapidly in strength.....click the arrow to see 4 hours of growth

https://www.accuweather.com/en/mx/poza-rica-de-hidalgo/236232/satellite/236232

ps I'm taking my tinfoil hat and a few essentials and moving to even higher ground

[Elite_Pie]

The Cayo Islands have been declared a state of emergency by the Cuban authorities. Full evacuation ordered, so we are currently waiting to be transferred to Varadero as Irma is expected to track north to Florida before getting that far.

[tarquinbeech]

The Cayo Islands have been declared a state of emergency by the Cuban authorities. Full evacuation ordered, so we are currently waiting to be transferred to Varadero as Irma is expected to track north to Florida before getting that far.

I think you are safe looking at the model runs, BUT, as with Matthew last year, these things have a nasty habit of changing direction at the last minute as they hit the 29 degree waters off the Florida Coast.....each 1 degree of temperature rise translates into 18mph of sheer wind power....and they almost have a life of their own seeking out the water rather than the land.....fascinating but scary

Get some extra beers in, find a second-storey room.....and keep away from the windows!!

ps Which Cayo are you on....there's about 5 of them?

[tarquinbeech]

The latest model runs show a narrow coastline gap opening in the two competing high-pressure systems (one is created by a Rossby wave coming down from the Canadian Arctic on the left, hitting Tennessee and curving up through New York....the other is the semi-permanent Bermuda high in the mid-Atlantic stretching back to Portugal on the right)........that coastline gap is where Irma can "escape"....possibly after leveling the Bahamas and clipping Florida.

http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#PMSL

Irma on Sunday as she makes a bid for open water

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=30.6;-77.1;5&l=wind&t=20170911/00&m=gem

[Elite_Pie]

We are on Cayo Santa Maria, our daughter is on Cayo Guillermo. They have put all the sun beds in the pool and seem to be expecting something serious.

[tarquinbeech]

We are on Cayo Santa Maria, our daughter is on Cayo Guillermo. They have put all the sun beds in the pool and seem to be expecting something serious.

Cayo Santa Maria .............the worst looks like Saturday morning at 10am......39mph as Irma hits Andros Town, Bahamas

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=22.6;-79.0;5&l=wind&t=20170909/15

The Cubans are worried obviously because tourists are their future lifeblood of the economy....they cannot afford the bad publicity if you go MIA, and if this monster veers 40 miles to the West.....you're in serious trouble

[CmonUSexyStylishPies]

Mates family flew to Cuba today, apparently the plane was nearly empty apart from their group.

[BigFatPie]

Going on holiday to the Caribbean in September is a bit like going to Saudi Arabia and opening up a titty bar.

[tarquinbeech]

Irma 175mph, Jose 120mph and Katia 80mph.....plus another brewing off the coast of Africa.....and there are still people that say Global Warming is fake news....mmmmm

[LaxtonLad]

And now an earthquake off Mexico`s south-west coast!

It's drizzling here.

[tarquinbeech]

Irma has weakened overnight to 155mph as a new eye-wall takes shape.....Cuba is getting drenched, Bahamas will take a direct hit tonight.

Jose is lining up for another run into the Leeward Islands......Anguilla will almost certainly need evacuating as it is already 65% destroyed.

Katia is now coming on to the Mexico shore 200 miles south-east of me.....not too strong at 80mph, hopefully we'll get some rain up here on the Altiplano....the beers are lined up and the fridge/freezer is full of goodies.

I slept through the earthquake 600 miles to the south-west where the death toll is mounting....28 last time I looked.

[tarquinbeech]

Mexico Earthquake - A Mexican football presenter takes 1 minute 50 seconds to realise that this might be the "big one". Sept 1985 was the worst, 5,000 bodies were recovered but many here believe the figure was 3 or 4 times higher than that...Wiki says between 5,000 and 45,000 dead.....here is the vid, nothing much happens after 3 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u2zfSDrTA

[tarquinbeech]

Irma is getting seriously close to Cuba....it's supposed to turn towards Florida any time soon according to the models, but it's like one of those giant oil-tankers that takes ages to change course....the 11am from NOAA says it will turn, but the radar says it's not....mmmmmm

[Elite_Pie]

The Dunkirk spirit is kicking in here! We might get confined to our rooms for 24 hours so everyone (except my wife!) is having a laugh and getting wasted.

[tarquinbeech]

It's getting serious....I'm watching 2 or 3 different feeds....and it's not turning......hate to be dramatic, but it's heading straight for you ....have they moved you to Varadero?

[tarquinbeech]

here's the latest position...plus you can move the time cursor forward to see the projected plot

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=22.1;-74.1;5&l=wind

[tarquinbeech]

here is the Guantanamo Satellite.....it updates every hour at 14 minutes past the hour

https://www.accuweather.com/en/cu/guantanamo/122794/satellite/122794

Click and drag.....zoom in and out

[tarquinbeech]

The Dunkirk spirit is kicking in here! We might get confined to our rooms for 24 hours so everyone (except my wife!) is having a laugh and getting wasted.

There is some good news....it's not projected to hit you ........until AFTER the Notts County game....it might get a bit feisty though around half-time, make sure the mini-bar is well stocked

[Elite_Pie]

There is some good news....it's not projected to hit you ........until AFTER the Notts County game....it might get a bit feisty though around half-time, make sure the mini-bar is well stocked

I'm getting really worried - that the wifi might be down and I won't get any score updates. Emergency plan in place to get text message updates if all else fails.

[tarquinbeech]

I'm getting really worried - that the wifi might be down and I won't get any score updates. Emergency plan in place to get text message updates if all else fails.

I'll get the waiter to paste the scores to the toast that he's sliding under your door

[queenslandpie]

I'll get the waiter to paste the scores to the toast that he's sliding under your door

I endured a hurricane in Cuba about 15 years ago. Pretty crazy stuff. The cubans were very calm. QP was cacking his pants.

[tarquinbeech]

5 pm here - Irma skims the Cuban coastline......still waiting for the 60 degree turn towards Florida

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=22.1;-74.1;5&l=wind

Live feed from Fox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acap3IrCYYk

[drillerpie]

A sheriff in Florida has tweeted to advise residents not to shoot at the hurricane because "it won't make it go away".

Jesus Christ almighty and this is the most powerful country on earth. No wonder the human race is ****ed.

[Elite_Pie]

I'll get the waiter to paste the scores to the toast that he's sliding under your door

Just got back and funnily enough it did end up with 56 hours confined to rooms with no electricity or running water and food supplies shoved through the door! Hurricane Irma was quite a sight, the hotel we had been evacuated to for safety was wrecked, so we were moved again. Had to fly home via Dominican Republic. We had 10 excellent days and 4 abysmal ones, 3 hotels and two countries, but Thomson have promised a 100% refund so I'm more than happy. 9 points from 3 games certainly helped to keep the spirits up!

[JoePass]

Just got back and funnily enough it did end up with 56 hours confined to rooms with no electricity or running water and food supplies shoved through the door! Hurricane Irma was quite a sight, the hotel we had been evacuated to for safety was wrecked, so we were moved again. Had to fly home via Dominican Republic. We had 10 excellent days and 4 abysmal ones, 3 hotels and two countries, but Thomson have promised a 100% refund so I'm more than happy. 9 points from 3 games certainly helped to keep the spirits up!

Go to Butlins next year.

[SolSigns]

Just got back and funnily enough it did end up with 56 hours confined to rooms with no electricity or running water and food supplies shoved through the door! Hurricane Irma was quite a sight, the hotel we had been evacuated to for safety was wrecked, so we were moved again. Had to fly home via Dominican Republic. We had 10 excellent days and 4 abysmal ones, 3 hotels and two countries, but Thomson have promised a 100% refund so I'm more than happy. 9 points from 3 games certainly helped to keep the spirits up!

The lengths some folk will go to to get a freebie!

[JoePass]

The lengths some folk will go to to get a freebie!


I keep telling you, all Corbyns mates will get a freebie on the back of hard working tax payers money :P

[Elite_Pie]

The lengths some folk will go to to get a freebie!

I'm slightly disappointed that we only booked a 4 star hotel when I could have had the most expensive 5 star for free!

[navypie]

Just got back and funnily enough it did end up with 56 hours confined to rooms with no electricity or running water and food supplies shoved through the door! Hurricane Irma was quite a sight, the hotel we had been evacuated to for safety was wrecked, so we were moved again. Had to fly home via Dominican Republic. We had 10 excellent days and 4 abysmal ones, 3 hotels and two countries, but Thomson have promised a 100% refund so I'm more than happy. 9 points from 3 games certainly helped to keep the spirits up!

Yeah , great to see you back ep , thank god for small mercies .

[SolSigns]

I keep telling you, all Corbyns mates will get a freebie on the back of hard working tax payers money :P

You're a shoehorning legend, Joe!

[SolSigns]

I'm slightly disappointed that we only booked a 4 star hotel when I could have had the most expensive 5 star for free!

Mar-a-Lago's supposed to be nice in hurricane season O:)

[tarquinbeech]

Just got back and funnily enough it did end up with 56 hours confined to rooms with no electricity or running water and food supplies shoved through the door! Hurricane Irma was quite a sight, the hotel we had been evacuated to for safety was wrecked, so we were moved again. Had to fly home via Dominican Republic. We had 10 excellent days and 4 abysmal ones, 3 hotels and two countries, but Thomson have promised a 100% refund so I'm more than happy. 9 points from 3 games certainly helped to keep the spirits up!

Anyone who books a holiday in the height of the Caribbean Hurricane season deserves all they get....I even warned you BEFORE you went.......WHAT, you got a free holiday?......CNUT....I wish I'd thought of that.

ps This forum has been a nightmare since you left.......I've been fighting with Sid, Chubby and Sol only.......it's gone downhill rapido!!

[tarquinbeech]

The hurricane season is far from over......tracking 7 different storms/hurricanes out over the over-heated oceans, and we still have 6 weeks to go until it calms down.

Max is hitting Mexico as I type, Norma will hit Mexico on Saturday....Jose is lining up for a hit on New Jersey (20% chance)....4 others are still brewing

ps 91 now confirmed dead in the Mexican earthquake.....Trump tried to send a message to his southern neighbour....but apparently his phone couldn't get a signal.....pathetic

[navypie]

Just got back and funnily enough it did end up with 56 hours confined to rooms with no electricity or running water and food supplies shoved through the door! Hurricane Irma was quite a sight, the hotel we had been evacuated to for safety was wrecked, so we were moved again. Had to fly home via Dominican Republic. We had 10 excellent days and 4 abysmal ones, 3 hotels and two countries, but Thomson have promised a 100% refund so I'm more than happy. 9 points from 3 games certainly helped to keep the spirits up!


I'm slightly disappointed that we only booked a 4 star hotel when I could have had the most expensive 5 star for free!

There you go shipmate.

[navypie]

Just got back and funnily enough it did end up with 56 hours confined to rooms with no electricity or running water and food supplies shoved through the door! Hurricane Irma was quite a sight, the hotel we had been evacuated to for safety was wrecked, so we were moved again. Had to fly home via Dominican Republic. We had 10 excellent days and 4 abysmal ones, 3 hotels and two countries, but Thomson have promised a 100% refund so I'm more than happy. 9 points from 3 games certainly helped to keep the spirits up!


Going on holiday to the Caribbean in September is a bit like going to Saudi Arabia and opening up a titty bar.

Seems yer mate wasn't impressed with you going at either.

[navypie]

Bump.

[navypie]

Bump.

Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
I'm slightly disappointed that we only booked a 4 star hotel when I could have had the most expensive 5 star for free!
love the exlimation mark

[Elite_Pie]

Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
I'm slightly disappointed that we only booked a 4 star hotel when I could have had the most expensive 5 star for free!
love the exlimation mark

Wow, you are getting really desperate to discredit me now Captain Birdseye! You are actually sad enough to drag up a topic from 2017 and try to use it to prove that I am a horrible, nasty uncaring person. I don't know which is more embarrassing for you, this one or the pathetic thread you started that was locked trying to prove to everyone that I exploit young girls (the truth is they were exploiting me)! You don't seem to realise it, but you are making yourself look a complete arsehole rather than proving anything against me.

This thread was quite a pleasant stroll down memory lane. The only person who manages to look a bigger tit than you is Soccerman, who actually managed to mention Corbyn on a hurricane thread!

[navypie]

Wow, you are getting really desperate to discredit me now Captain Birdseye! You are actually sad enough to drag up a topic from 2017 and try to use it to prove that I am a horrible, nasty uncaring person. I don't know which is more embarrassing for you, this one or the pathetic thread you started that was locked trying to prove to everyone that I exploit young girls (the truth is they were exploiting me)! You don't seem to realise it, but you are making yourself look a complete arsehole rather than proving anything against me.

This thread was quite a pleasant stroll down memory lane. The only person who manages to look a bigger tit than you is Soccerman, who actually managed to mention Corbyn on a hurricane thread!

Ok, if you say so.

[JoePass]

Wow, you are getting really desperate to discredit me now Captain Birdseye! You are actually sad enough to drag up a topic from 2017 and try to use it to prove that I am a horrible, nasty uncaring person. I don't know which is more embarrassing for you, this one or the pathetic thread you started that was locked trying to prove to everyone that I exploit young girls (the truth is they were exploiting me)! You don't seem to realise it, but you are making yourself look a complete arsehole rather than proving anything against me.

This thread was quite a pleasant stroll down memory lane. The only person who manages to look a bigger tit than you is Soccerman, who actually managed to mention Corbyn on a hurricane thread!


You have to be the most obnoxious person and so full of his own importance t wat I have ever come across. You seriously think that everyone hangs on to your pearls of wisdom, well your 2 lover boys do. You fail to understand the art of the wind up....obviously you are suffering from not be able to chuck your money away to the bookies, take a look in the mirror.. I now await your usual garbage answer that I must admit always gives me a laugh.

[Elite_Pie]

You have to be the most obnoxious person and so full of his own importance t wat I have ever come across. You seriously think that everyone hangs on to your pearls of wisdom, well your 2 lover boys do. You fail to understand the art of the wind up....obviously you are suffering from not be able to chuck your money away to the bookies, take a look in the mirror.. I now await your usual garbage answer that I must admit always gives me a laugh.

So you're not the utterly tedious predictable board bigot at all - you're now trying to pass your stupidity off as a wind up!

Good luck with that one.

[navypie]

So you're not the utterly tedious predictable board bigot at all - you're now trying to pass your stupidity off as a wind up!

Good luck with that one.

I bet it still hurts that you didn't book a 5 star. Your words.

[Elite_Pie]

I bet it still hurts that you didn't bookt a 5 star. Your words.

And words that were obviously a joke. Funnily enough, I only said the other day that I actively try and avoid the up market five star hotels because they tend to be occupied by the likes of seriouspie, who only want to talk about themselves and their fantastic career!

[navypie]

The truth is, you didn't give a fcuk about the people who would be affected by this natural disaster. That's the difference big between me and you.

[Elite_Pie]

The truth is, you didn't give a fcuk about the people who would be affected by this natural disaster. That's the difference big between me and you.

That's only what you want to believe in your tiny warped mind.

Only 10 days ago I said that I donated around £80 to the relief fund. So Mister Big Heart, how much did you give?


I'll answer your second question before you ask it - yes, I did care about the Cuban people. The journey back to the airport was a real experience, because it showed the stark reality of really likeable people who had very little suddenly having a lot less. I had about £80 worth of Cuban money left, which I thought I would get rid of in the duty free shop. After seeing the devastation first hand it went in the relief bucket instead. I followed the rebuilding operation online and went back there as soon as the resorts opened again. I know this doesn't fit in with what you and tarquin want to believe, but that's your problem not mine.

[navypie]

And words that were obviously a joke. Funnily enough, I only said the other day that I actively try and avoid the up market five star hotels because they tend to be occupied by the likes of seriouspie, who only want to talk about themselves and their fantastic career!

Funnily enough, you said you were disappointed not to have booked a 5 star hotel. It's there in black and white.

[navypie]

That's only what you want to believe in your tiny warped mind.

Only 10 days ago I said that I donated around £80 to the relief fund. So Mister Big Heart, how much did you give?

So, we are playing the how much you've given game. Getting desperate Elite.

[Elite_Pie]

So, we are playing the how much you've given game. Getting desperate Elite.

You decided to raise this, so answer the question. You said "The truth is, you didn't give a fcuk about the people who would be affected by this natural disaster. That's the difference big between me and you". Tell everyone exactly what the 'difference big' between us is.

So how much did you donate?

[navypie]

That's only what you want to believe in your tiny warped mind.

Only 10 days ago I said that I donated around £80 to the relief fund. So Mister Big Heart, how much did you give?

Just to add. I've said many times before that my wife is a nurse at the QMC.

[Elite_Pie]

Just to add. I've said many times before that my wife is a nurse at the QMC.

Have you overdone the rum again? These drunken rants never end well for you, just go and sleep it off.

[Old_pie]

The handbags thread isn't big enough for some, maybe we need a briefcase thread or failing that a suitcase thread. Jeez, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over the same bloody people with the same petty arguments.

I only looked here because I thought there was something about a hurricane, not windbags.

[Elite_Pie]

The handbags thread isn't big enough for some, maybe we need a briefcase thread or failing that a suitcase thread. Jeez, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over the same bloody people with the same petty arguments.

I only looked here because I thought there was something about a hurricane, not windbags.

Then blame the saddo who chose to dig up a topic from 2017 to try and score petty points. If some weirdo decides to post a pack of lies about you it's hard not to respond.

[navypie]

You decided to raise this, so answer the question. You said "The truth is, you didn't give a fcuk about the people who would be affected by this natural disaster. That's the difference big between me and you". Tell everyone exactly what the 'difference big' between us is.

So how much did you donate?

Being an animal lover I have a direct debit set up for the RSPCA. Knowing animals will suffer I've upped it. Everyone around here is well looked after but me we did ask one or two we were concerned about. At this moment in time, all I've been asked if is can I bring a paper every day.

[navypie]

Have you overdone the rum again? These drunken rants never end well for you, just go and sleep it off.

Is that the best you can come up with. Pathetic man

[navypie]

The handbags thread isn't big enough for some, maybe we need a briefcase thread or failing that a suitcase thread. Jeez, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over the same bloody people with the same petty arguments.

I only looked here because I thought there was something about a hurricane, not windbags.

Why do you always jump in? Prattpie is more suitable.
ps. Don't fcking read it. Simple, over and over again . ****

[navypie]

Then blame the saddo who chose to dig up a topic from 2017 to try and score petty points. If some weirdo decides to post a pack of lies about you it's hard not to respond.

You said you showed empathy with the Cuban people. I clearly showed that you lied.

[Elite_Pie]

You said you showed empathy with the Cuban people. I clearly showed that you lied.

You actually showed the exact opposite. Just leave it before you embarrass yourself even more.

[navypie]

You actually showed the exact opposite. Just leave it before you embarrass yourself even more.

How do you work that out?

[navypie]

Pretty clear to me you that you bragged about your "free " holiday. Fcuk the poor people you screwed over.

[navypie]

I'm slightly disappointed that we only booked a 4 star hotel when I could have had the most expensive 5 star for free!

Again

[navypie]

The handbags thread isn't big enough for some, maybe we need a briefcase thread or failing that a suitcase thread. Jeez, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over the same bloody people with the same petty arguments.

I only looked here because I thought there was something about a hurricane, not windbags.

............and once again, it's so easy not to comment.

[Elite_Pie]

............and once again, it's so easy not to comment.

I would normally take the piss out of you, but you seem to have lost it big time tonight.

For everyone's sake, either leave the drink alone or seek medical help.

[SwalePie]

Game over.