Plastic Whistle v AFC the all in one threed

[sheepcrooky]

Hopefully a thread free of Westhill NIMBY's.

Lewis
Logan O'Connor Reynolds Considine
Tansey Shinnie
Stewart McLean Wright
GMS

Thistle are a good team this year. Storey will be well up for it.

2-0 AFC. May & Stewart.

[Nae Huns]

No so sure about your frontline chap?
May upfront fir a defo!

[sheepcrooky]

Oops. Too much vino. Yep, May up front.

[Pacman1903]

Oot

0-0

[Aldo1983]

2-2


When did we last draw 2-2?

[sheepcrooky]

2-2


When did we last draw 2-2?

At home to St. Mirren a few years ago when we were 2-0 up with not a lot of time left?

[Pauldolski10]

Oot as a few things on today, gutted as Partick away is my fave away day.

Lewis
Logan O'Connor Reynolds Consi
Tansey Shinnie
Stewart Mclean Wright
May

2-0 Dons May and Tansey fk

[Aldo1983]

At home to St. Mirren a few years ago when we were 2-0 up with not a lot of time left?

Looks like it was 2015 against Ross County.

[Getintaethem]

Is this a sell out for Aberdeen? must be pretty close.

[sheepcrooky]

I see today we are going for 7 away league wins in a row for the first time in donkeys.

[RedStarTorphins]

On the assumption DM NEVER drops McLean I think he'll go with;

Lewis
Logan O'Connor Reynolds Considine
Tansey Shinnie
Stewart McLean GMS
May '83

Subs: Rogers, Arnason, Harvie, Christie, Wright, Maynard, Rooney

[Jormungand]

3-0 win for the good guys. COYR

[afc1903mad]

I see today we are going for 7 away league wins in a row for the first time in donkeys.

8 if you count the cup game.
I think they will make it tough. only 0-1 for me, but hope its a lot more.
Going into the international break with a 100% start will be a boost and guaranteed to be at least 2nd, if not 1st

[sonofrgmsdad]

Lewis
Logan, O'Conner, Considine, Shinnie
Tansey, McLean
Stewart, Christie, Wright
May

[mondo_notion]

Lewis
Logan, O'Conner, Considine, Shinnie
Tansey, McLean
Stewart, Christie, Wright
May

Oh aye got the threads muddled up. Impressive line up and not a bad bench either.

COYR

[Jupiter]

Finally, Shinnie at left back.

[fittiered]

May testing the plastic keeper already.... ooooh..

[medw1311]

Yassss Christie

[Hairdrier]

Yassss Christie (1-0)

[fittiered]

Yaaaas Christie

[fittiered]

Top of the league.......

[medw1311]

Damnnn 1-1

[Hairdrier]

1-1 oh well

[fittiered]

Sake!!

[awafaehame]

Fvckin airse skin, always a nightmare against us.....

[medw1311]

Bloody hell 2-1 down

[Hairdrier]

Ffs

[bpdon]

WTF was that from Kenny McLean?

[sancho_panza]

Both goals coming from Shinnie giving the ball away cheaply.

[InversneckieDob]

F uc king fu ck.

[fittiered]

If the goals were from Shinnie mistakes that woulda been consadine any other time!! Put Shinnzer back in midfield....

[vinnydesalvo]

If the goals were from Shinnie mistakes that woulda been consadine any other time!! Put Shinnzer back in midfield....

And get a left-back in fore window shuts. McLean oot.

[rico94]

And get a left-back in fore window shuts. McLean oot.

McLean and Considine are undroppable,hence the reason he has shoe horned them into the team today.

[Hairdrier]

Penalty

[Hairdrier]

2-2

[sancho_panza]

Incredibly soft penalty, but I'll take it.

[medw1311]

Really needed that equaliser before H/T. COYR let's win this 4-2!!!

[man-erg]

Madden is unbelievably bad.

[mondo_notion]

Christie with a near goal of the season contender >:(

We will win this in the 2nd half. Keep better possession and we will score easily.

[redscot]

septic 1 nil down at half time.

Come on to phuck Aberdeen, heid first in the second half.

[fittiered]

Christie with a near goal of the season contender >:(

We will win this in the 2nd half. Keep better possession and we will score easily.

63% possession first half for Dons...

[mondo_notion]

63% possession first half for Dons...

64% is obviously the target figure. It's first day stuff at coaching school.

[fittiered]

64% is obviously the target figure. It's first day stuff at coaching school.

For fit I hear about our soft pen, maybe the ref makes it 64%!!

[Pacman1903]

Bloody hell. Must be some game. Was watching diddy fitba and got in the car as wonder save happened.

[macattack]

Bloody hell. Must be some game. Was watching diddy fitba and got in the car as wonder save happened.

Ditto was in the car and wondered what was going on :?

[Pacman1903]

Ditto was in the car and wondered what was going on :?

How good was the save. Rob Mclean said to "watch out for it on Sportscene"

[Pacman1903]

Yaaaaaaas Scott Wright loves Firhill

[Hairdrier]

3-2 Wright


Yaaaaaaass

[redscot]

Yaaaassssss

[Pacman1903]

F@ck sake

[redscot]

Phuck sake, get a grip !

[Hairdrier]

Ffs what is the defence doing

[bpdon]

Every time they get a cross in we look like conceding.

[Mason89]

One for the neutrals

[Jupiter]

It will be 4-3 in a minute.

[medw1311]

It will be 4-3 in a minute.

To who though?

[sheepcrooky]

It does sound like ****e defending all over the park. Hopefully we can stick another couple in. For all these goals, Stevie May sounds quiet today.

[Jupiter]

To who though?

who knows

[Jussi]

every game so far could have tallied up like this one we are rank in defending dept., this time the opposition are taking their chances.

only mcinnes is satisfied we have the players going by his latest quote.

[sheepcrooky]

Logan and O'Connor having handbags with each other. FFS guys, concentrate on the game.

[macattack]

See Rooney is on cmon Dons get a winner please!

[fittiered]

Cmon Roonie get the winner loon..

[Hairdrier]

Rooney !!

Yaaaassss

[medw1311]

Roooooooneyyyyyyyyyy

[anders2809]

Cmon Roonie get the winner loon..
there u go 😂😂😂😂

[macattack]

Yaaasss Rooney now hold on please!

[anders2809]

time for goal number 5

[fittiered]

Felt it in ma pesh ken?

[Pacman1903]

Yaaaaaaas.

Hearing Richard Gordons yaaaaaas in the background, quality

[fittiered]

Celtic equalise! Hold on St J boys...

[Pacman1903]

Partick doon to 10

[deedon]

Celtic equalise! Hold on St J boys...

Celtic will win 2-1. Prediction.

[Pacman1903]

Top of the league currently

[macattack]

Full time certainly was Firhill for thrills today :D

[fittiered]

Nah 1-1 fk the pigs

[anders2809]

hayes almost scored 👊

[Hairdrier]

Good game, good game..

[Pacman1903]

hayes almost scored ��

But the horrible f@ck didnt

[anders2809]

top of the league baby 😀😀😀

[redscot]

Good result. :)

Pish defending though.

The guy on Sportsound covering the septic game can phuck right off.

[sheepcrooky]

We are top of the league, we are top of the league. :)

Well done AFC & The Farmers.

[erchieplum]

we are top of the league, we are top of the league. :)

well done afc & the farmers.

mind the gap !!! :-)

[medw1311]

What an afternoon wow!!!! Feels good to be top of the league!!

[EintrachtFrankfurt]

We are top of the league, we are top of the league. :)

Well done AFC & The Farmers.

We are doing alright! COYR :star::star:

[macattack]

Yass top of the league now how long can we stay there

[sheepcrooky]

Yass top of the league now how long can we stay there

Well at least two weeks due to the international break. 100% league record this season, 7 away league wins in a row for the first time since Fergie, home to Killie next?

Get fuvking in. Might be a nice wee malt tonight.

[Pacman1903]

Well at least two weeks due to the international break. 100% league record this season, 7 away league wins in a row for the first time since Fergie, home to Killie next?

Get fuvking in. Might be a nice wee malt tonight.

Ive already poured myself an Aquavit

[Feck_the_Huns]

Surprised that Arnie still can't get into this side, shambolic defending at times apparently and even at 3-4 with 10 mins to go, you'd have thought he'd have taken the Icelander on to shore things up.

Great win, well done to the Perth men also, and chuffed as feck for Rooney

[InversneckieDob]

It's ours to lose now.........

[Pacman1903]

34 games to go. Hold on boys

[sheepcrooky]

Surprised that Arnie still can't get into this side, shambolic defending at times apparently and even at 3-4 with 10 mins to go, you'd have thought he'd have taken the Icelander on to shore things up.

Great win, well done to the Perth men also, and chuffed as feck for Rooney

Very much this. Arnason should be in this team, no debate.

[RedStarTorphins]

Random thoughts;

- we badly need a dominant, loud, shoutey, pointy, central defender
- Shinnie had his worst 45 minutes in a Dons jersey in the 1st half
- Bobby Madden is a useless c**t
- Wrights goal was a thing of beauty.
- That Thistle centre half for a blatant elbow in the face of May. An undeniable red card.
- overall we deserved it but every time a cross ball came in I was nervous.
- Good subs by DM today.
- get Arnason fit & get him in at CB
- what a brainless penalty Thistle gave away
- Good support again. Over 2,000
- too of the league, but a tough run to come.

[sheepcrooky]

Random thoughts;

- we badly need a dominant, loud, shoutey, pointy, central defender
- Shinnie had his worst 45 minutes in a Dons jersey in the 1st half
- Bobby Madden is a useless c**t
- Wrights goal was a thing of beauty.
- That Thistle centre half for a blatant elbow in the face of May. An undeniable red card.
- overall we deserved it but every time a cross ball came in I was nervous.
- Good subs by DM today.
- get Arnason fit & get him in at CB
- what a brainless penalty Thistle gave away
- Good support again. Over 2,000
- too of the league, but a tough run to come.

We are the top scorers in the league, but have conceded 5 in 4 games, not good enough. We were all joking on here pre-season that we had just bought forwards and it would be a case of we will score more than you. Maybe that was very prophetic.

[RedStarTorphins]

We are the top scorers in the league, but have conceded 5 in 4 games, not good enough. We were all joking on here pre-season that we had just bought forwards and it would be a case of we will score more than you. Maybe that was very prophetic.

Aye, the defence give me the fear.
The goals we lost today were really poor & basic.
Needs adressed as in 4 consecutive weeks in October we have
St Johnstone, Hibs, SEVCO & Dhims

[sheepcrooky]

Aye, the defence give me the fear.
The goals we lost today were really poor & basic.
Needs adressed as in 4 consecutive weeks in October we have
St Johnstone, Hibs, SEVCO & Dhims

Ach, maybe by then we will be 5 points clear, scoring 22, conceding 12

[Getintaethem]

Random thoughts;

- we badly need a dominant, loud, shoutey, pointy, central defender
- Shinnie had his worst 45 minutes in a Dons jersey in the 1st half
- Bobby Madden is a useless c**t
- Wrights goal was a thing of beauty.
- That Thistle centre half for a blatant elbow in the face of May. An undeniable red card.
- overall we deserved it but every time a cross ball came in I was nervous.
- Good subs by DM today.
- get Arnason fit & get him in at CB
- what a brainless penalty Thistle gave away
- Good support again. Over 2,000
- too of the league, but a tough run to come.

cannot argue with any of this. Shinnie at fault for two of their goals.

after our first, it should have been a rout and then we go 2-1 behind. No idea how it happened other than our defence is as ropey as hell.

DM went with Considine in CD and Shinnie at LB. Not sure who was at fault for our terrible defending.

Thought Stewart did not have a great game.

Ronnie's goal was also a thing of beauty for different reasons. Was not sure he touched it but with his celebration - he obviously did. Madden was not going to send off the Thistle player... waited for 30 seconds before showing second yellow.

Tansey corners were wasteful.

Partick, 2 goals from corners and another which was a terrible goal to lose. Will need to watch back the goals as they were all pretty soft to give away.

Wright was so pleased to score... fantastic... what a future he has in the game. Then we throw it away with a stupid corner. Elated. Great game. Great atmosphere from the Dons fans.

We need to sort out our defending because we wont last long at the top if we keep on giving away goals like those today.

[Pacman1903]

Random thoughts;

- Shinnie had his worst 45 minutes in a Dons jersey in the 1st half
.

Surprised to hear this as I didn't think he could top last week

[Getintaethem]

Surprised to hear this as I didn't think he could top last week

It was as if he was pissed off that he had to play at left back to me... at fault for two of their goals... second one was a hugely strong pass that ended up going out for the corner that they scored from. First, i canna remember to be honest but he was at fault.

[sheepcrooky]

Red TV said Storey couldn't play today as part of the sale deal. Very strange that, but possibly quite astute from AFC.

[Getintaethem]

Red TV said Storey couldn't play today as part of the sale deal. Very strange that, but possibly quite astute from AFC.

ah - i was wondering. thought he was injured.

[Mr_Grieves]

Its magic to be top again but surely to fvck Kari will be match fit for the diet huns match.

Still hoping we'll get another centre half and a central midfielder in before the end of the transfer window.

[57vintage]

Random thoughts;

- we badly need a dominant, loud, shoutey, pointy, central defender
- Shinnie had his worst 45 minutes in a Dons jersey in the 1st half
- Bobby Madden is a useless c**t
- Wrights goal was a thing of beauty.
- That Thistle centre half for a blatant elbow in the face of May. An undeniable red card.
- overall we deserved it but every time a cross ball came in I was nervous.
- Good subs by DM today.
- get Arnason fit & get him in at CB
- what a brainless penalty Thistle gave away
- Good support again. Over 2,000
- too of the league, but a tough run to come.

I'd agree with all of that apart from the May elbow in the face comment. Two players battling for the ball and the Jag player held him off/pushed him back with his elbow rather than smashed him in the face with it. More obstruction than anything, and certainly not violent conduct, or serious foul play. May made a meal of it.

That back 4 didn't work. Shinnie seemed to have difficulty in remembering how to be a full back, and O'Connor looked uncomfortable. The 2nd and 3rd Thistle goals were primary school defending.

Wright's goal was a beauty, and I dinna think anyone else in our sqaaad would have had the instincts of Rooney to nick the winner.

[NewOrleansRed]

I'd agree with all of that apart from the May elbow in the face comment. Two players battling for the ball and the Jag player held him off/pushed him back with his elbow rather than smashed him in the face with it. More obstruction than anything, and certainly not violent conduct, or serious foul play. May made a meal of it.

That back 4 didn't work. Shinnie seemed to have difficulty in remembering how to be a full back, and O'Connor looked uncomfortable. The 2nd and 3rd Thistle goals were primary school defending.

Wright's goal was a beauty, and I dinna think anyone else in our sqaaad would have had the instincts of Rooney to nick the winner.


Was watching the game on the Partick website PPV and the commentary team hit the nail on the head with our defence when they pointed out the gap between our centre halfs looked like a real problem area. Neither one seemed able to take responsibility when the ball was in that middle ground. Considine looked better with the ball at his feet than he has fo a long time but again both CB's just don't look dominant either in the air or positionally. Felt like a real bombscare waiting to happen. Other posters on here have alluded to the fact Arnanson is still working on fitness and i hope to god that's true as if he can't push into this team with the circus centre halfs we've got then he's got problems.

Shinnie was no doubt meant to shore up that left wing but as was pointed out was having a bit of a mar. GMS must have pumped Mrs McInnes as he apparently is struggling to get in even our first 11 and i would have thought he'd be flying in this side. Stewart does indeed look good but is rediculously one footed. I'm not liking this fascination with pushing Christie out wide as when he's tucked in behind a front line he's an absoloute nightmare for defenders to pick up with his agility and turns.

We really do have a cracking player in the making with Wright. Plays with zero fear and i've a feeling he's the sort of player that will thrive in big games against The Walking Dead and such. He's always pressuring the full back and causing problems. Final ball isn't there but surely it will improve. He can't half hit them though. Great goal.

You get the impression all in all that McInnes is unsure of what his best back line is. He said in the post-match interview that the changes were to encourage a ball carrying team to take responsibility in pressing the attack and that this led to a smaller physical presence but as far as i'm aware neither O'Connor or Considine have shrunk since last week so why we're getting beat at set plays should be a source of much concern.

As some said, we need a centre half and i think another left back to free Shinnie up to play his Captains role in the middle. It's a win so no compaints but make now mistake. For all our fantastic passing flourishes and connecting play, there were some real weaknesses exposed that a better team would have severely punished us for.

Top of the league though!!!

[Getintaethem]

You get the impression all in all that McInnes is unsure of what his best back line is. He said in the post-match interview that the changes were to encourage a ball carrying team to take responsibility in pressing the attack and that this led to a smaller physical presence but as far as i'm aware neither O'Connor or Considine have shrunk since last week so why we're getting beat at set plays should be a source of much concern.



because we have one less tall player at set pieces with Reynolds being off the park. He used May instead and he was meant to pick up a player at at least one of their set plays that resulted in a goal. There is some logic in DM playing with Considine at lb and it is to do with defending set plays.

[sancho_panza]

Shinnie gave the ball away poorly in our own half three times in the first half - two directly resulting in goals and one causing a dangerous attack that came to nothing. I don't expect him to do that every week, but you'd have to say on balance that we looked a lot shakier in defence with him there than we have with Considine at LB (mainly because we're swapping out Reynolds for a player like Christie/Wright/Stewart at set pieces).

Partick aren't a dangerous side going forward. They'd scored one goal in three games prior to today and we only made them look dangerous by giving the ball away in our own half and failing to defend crosses properly. It was a reasonable demonstration of exactly what we are at present: a team that can look brilliant going forward yet still concede soft goals because we've neglected to strengthen the defence.

[Mason89]

Those soft goals we conceded yesterday, were down to the way we set up rather than the players themselves. The way we defend set pieces is shambolic & has been since day one with McInnes.

[bpdon]

Those soft goals we conceded yesterday, were down to the way we set up rather than the players themselves. The way we defend set pieces is shambolic & has been since day one with McInnes.

Nothing to do with 2 awful passes by Shinnie? Or McLeans weird double knee jump attempt to clear a corner?

[Mason89]

Nothing to do with 2 awful passes by Shinnie? Or McLeans weird double knee jump attempt to clear a corner?

Thistle still had a lot to do for their first. Well taken goal that one. The other two were shocking but If you put a player on the post, they don't get their 3rd.

[sheepcrooky]

Thistle still had a lot to do for their first. Well taken goal that one. The other two were shocking but If you put a player on the post, they don't get their 3rd.

The 2nd and 3rd were very poor to lose. Basically corners dropping in or around our penalty spot with little challenge. Agree we should have men on the posts, but I also like to keep one up front from a corner to put some pressure on the opposing team. We can't satisfy all scenarios.
Clearly it didn't work yesterday, but the team that started yesterday would be the one I pick every week with possible exception of Kari starting instead of O'Connor/Considine.

And we are still top of the league.

[Landvetter83]

I wasn't at the game; and haven't seen any highlights, so all I have to go on is the BBC website match report.

From that, to me, it seems Thistle got lucky. 3 goals from 5 chances. That happens in football. We scored 4 from 16 chances.

Foxxake, the posts on here whining about the defence are almost as tiresome as the 2 trolls on the new stadium threads. If we continue winning 4-3, 5-4, 6-5 who gives a f@@k. We're top of the league today - get the beers in ....

[sheepcrooky]

I wasn't at the game; and haven't seen any highlights, so all I have to go on is the BBC website match report.

From that, to me, it seems Thistle got lucky. 3 goals from 5 chances. That happens in football. We scored 4 from 16 chances.

Foxxake, the posts on here whining about the defence are almost as tiresome as the 2 trolls on the new stadium threads. If we continue winning 4-3, 5-4, 6-5 who gives a f@@k. We're top of the league today - get the beers in ....

Discussing the frailties of AFC's defence on an AFC fans forum is hardly whining min. Most of us got what we wanted yesterday with Shinnie put to left back, it didn't work but we still managed to win. We won't score 4 every game, but neither will we concede 3.

We are top of the league which is absolutely fantastic, but there is, and always will be, areas for discussion.

[stansmith]

If we continue winning 4-3, 5-4, 6-5 who gives a f@@k. We're top of the league today - get the beers in ....

Folk usually say this type of nonsense just before we collapse.

[RedStarTorphins]

I wasn't at the game; and haven't seen any highlights, so all I have to go on is the BBC website match report.

From that, to me, it seems Thistle got lucky. 3 goals from 5 chances. That happens in football. We scored 4 from 16 chances.

Foxxake, the posts on here whining about the defence are almost as tiresome as the 2 trolls on the new stadium threads. If we continue winning 4-3, 5-4, 6-5 who gives a f@@k. We're top of the league today - get the beers in ....

I think the problem was that Thistle didn't have to work for their goals.
Two came from corners.
The defence was a shambles all day from crosses.
Why for example was Stevie May left standing in the middle of the 6 yard box trying to fend off a 6'2" centre half who scored?
Basic poor stuff.
Against better teams we'll not get away with it.
I'd say a good (preferably left sided) centre half is a priority.

That said, 4 wins out of 4, top of the league!!

[Stavrum]

I think the problem was that Thistle didn't have to work for their goals.
Two came from corners.
The defence was a shambles all day from crosses.
Why for example was Stevie May left standing in the middle of the 6 yard box trying to fend off a 6'2" centre half who scored?
Basic poor stuff.
Against better teams we'll not get away with it.
I'd say a good (preferably left sided) centre half is a priority.

That said, 4 wins out of 4, top of the league!!

Always interesting seeing others interpretation if the game. Other than the 2 corners, I don't recall them having a clear cut chance from a cross or a set piece

As for the 2 goals, I thought the delivery on both was excellent, makes defending against them difficult.

As for people calling for signing a CH, we signed one, Arnason. We won't be signing another.

I don't buy that McInnes doesn't know his best 11 either. We have options now, and depending on the opposition he will change it up. Nice going not knowing the starting 11 like the last few seasons. Makes it harder for other teams to prepare as well

[RedStarTorphins]

Always interesting seeing others interpretation if the game. Other than the 2 corners, I don't recall them having a clear cut chance from a cross or a set piece

As for the 2 goals, I thought the delivery on both was excellent, makes defending against them difficult.

As for people calling for signing a CH, we signed one, Arnason. We won't be signing another.

I don't buy that McInnes doesn't know his best 11 either. We have options now, and depending on the opposition he will change it up. Nice going not knowing the starting 11 like the last few seasons. Makes it harder for other teams to prepare as well

Agree to an extent, in that Lewis didn't have a save to make (other than the goals obviously).
Thistle had 3 attempts on target & scored them all.
Still think we're a bit open though in midfield.
Maybe it's a screen in front of the defence we need.
Someone similar in style to Bartley at Hibs.
Neither Tansey or Shinnie are really disciplined in sitting in front of back 4.

If we off load Stockley, & McKenna & Storie are out on loan, that might free up space for a player?

[RED_JOHN]

We are top of the league and deserve that place as currently we are the only team with a 100 % record to back it up...fair play to the Dons players and management for this.
We will though have to be more commanding in defensive situations as Joe Lewis and his defenders in front of him are giving away goals to easily to our opponents.
The transfer window ending soon will be a bonus if we get a better replacement for any departing player...won't hold my breath though as we will probably let players go and get no replacements as we like doing things the hard way .
On another note...we are looking good going at teams. I will always take the attitude of we will score more goals than you approach rather than the sit back and hope to counter attack.

[rico94]

The only way Arnason is going to get fit is if he gets game time,he never even played for the u20s last week so god knows how he is supposed to get up to speed.

I'm beginning to wonder why McInnes signed him if he isn't going to play him.It was only in June he played for Iceland against Croatia and they won 1-0.If he can handle an international team with the likes of Mandzukic and Modric he will be able to handle SPFL strikers.

[Aldo1983]

The only way Arnason is going to get fit is if he gets game time,he never even played for the u20s last week so god knows how he is supposed to get up to speed.

I'm beginning to wonder why McInnes signed him if he isn't going to play him.It was only in June he played for Iceland against Croatia and they won 1-0.If he can handle an international team with the likes of Mandzukic and Modric he will be able to handle SPFL strikers.

I've always wondered what McInnes had to say about the signing. He is foreign and he was already under contract elsewhere. I suspect he was never 100% up for it. There's no reason playing wise, why Arnason wouldn't be first choice.

[Stavrum]

I've always wondered what McInnes had to say about the signing. He is foreign and he was already under contract elsewhere. I suspect he was never 100% up for it. There's no reason playing wise, why Arnason wouldn't be first choice.

I suppose the argument is that we have won 4 out of 4 and the game he did start, didn't cover himself in glory so why change a winning back line?

[RedStarTorphins]

The only way Arnason is going to get fit is if he gets game time,he never even played for the u20s last week so god knows how he is supposed to get up to speed.

I'm beginning to wonder why McInnes signed him if he isn't going to play him.It was only in June he played for Iceland against Croatia and they won 1-0.If he can handle an international team with the likes of Mandzukic and Modric he will be able to handle SPFL strikers.

Completely agree.
It's not as if the players who've played there instead (Reynolds & Considine) have covered themselves in glory.
And why Arnason didn't play with the u-20's to get game time was very odd.

[rico94]

I've always wondered what McInnes had to say about the signing. He is foreign and he was already under contract elsewhere. I suspect he was never 100% up for it. There's no reason playing wise, why Arnason wouldn't be first choice.

The only time I have heard McInnes speak about Arnason was the Brechin friendly when he said he wasn't up to speed.

He never got his photo taken with him when he signed like he has with the other signings.I know that's not a big deal but it's still strange.

[kkong]

Red TV said Storey couldn't play today as part of the sale deal. Very strange that, but possibly quite astute from AFC.

I heard that on BBC radio as well, but I didn't understand it.

This is explicitly prohibited by the SPFL's rules:

51. It is not permitted for a transferor Club to stipulate when or against whom a Player transferred or temporarily transferred may or may not Play and any such stipulation in any agreement or other document shall be void.

(Clause 68 states that for temporary transfers, the player cannot play against the transferor club).

So I would be interested to know what the situation actually is.

[medw1311]

I heard that on BBC radio as well, but I didn't understand it.

This is explicitly prohibited by the SPFL's rules:

51. It is not permitted for a transferor Club to stipulate when or against whom a Player transferred or temporarily transferred may or may not Play and any such stipulation in any agreement or other document shall be void.

(Clause 68 states that for temporary transfers, the player cannot play against the transferor club).

So I would be interested to know what the situation actually is.

I wonder if it was just a "gentleman's agreement" type thing between Derek and Archibald since they are very good friends. Although maybe it wouldn't have been made public if it was...strange indeed.

[Aldo1983]

I suppose the argument is that we have won 4 out of 4 and the game he did start, didn't cover himself in glory so why change a winning back line?

I agree with what you are saying but why then start May?

I think Arnason and the board have engineered the move.

[Jussi]

sure ,we've won all the games .... but could've just as easily drawn all 4.

The defending situation is needing fixed asap , while we have good fortune on our side.

[Jupiter]

I heard that on BBC radio as well, but I didn't understand it.

This is explicitly prohibited by the SPFL's rules:

51. It is not permitted for a transferor Club to stipulate when or against whom a Player transferred or temporarily transferred may or may not Play and any such stipulation in any agreement or other document shall be void.

(Clause 68 states that for temporary transfers, the player cannot play against the transferor club).

So I would be interested to know what the situation actually is.

So Clause 68 contradicts Clause 51.

[87kilos]

Considine and Reynolds are both very poor this season, Considine is suffering more due to not having Hayes engine motoring up and down to bail him out.

Arnason is far superior to both and should be starting ahead of both. The defense has looked dreadful so far this season and it needs addressing prior to playing Celtic, Hibs or Sevco. Got to start Arnason soon. Icelandic international and vastly experienced player who can only help the defence.

[Pacman1903]

Anyone saying the moaning about the defending after yesterday was wrong as we won is mad. Pretty awful stuff. Partick are poor and shouldnt be scoring 3 v anyone but when they get gifts like we gave them they will. It wasnt good enough

[Mason89]

It's the defending at corner kicks again. My absolute favourite thing to pull McInnes up for.

[RedStarTorphins]

It's the defending at corner kicks again. My absolute favourite thing to pull McInnes up for.

Yip, having Stevie May mark a 6'2" centre half (costing us a goal) was madness.

[Stavrum]

It's the defending at corner kicks again. My absolute favourite thing to pull McInnes up for.

I would genuinely love to know what our goals conceded at corners is as a percentage of total goals, and then compare against previous managers and teams.

without the numbers, its impossible to determine if your right.

Having just watched the highlights, i think Thistle get lucky with the first goal from a corner. Ball hits McLean, bounces of the keeper and lands at the boys feet. It was a good delivery, but McLean seems to slip as he is about to clear and that leads to the goal, hardly terrible positional play or set up by McInnes

[Stavrum]

So a quick googling led me to this from last season, not the comparison i was looking for but highlights the dangers of perception.

Most goals from Set pieces - Aberdeen (19)
Most goals conceded - Kilmarnock (18) - Aberdeen in joint 8th with 10 conceded

https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/sport/football-news/analysis-corner-tops-league-set-pieces/

[Mason89]

Yip, having Stevie May mark a 6'2" centre half (costing us a goal) was madness.

It's mental but even then, if you've got a player on the post it doesn't go in. Everything about it is wrong

[kkong]

So Clause 68 contradicts Clause 51.

No, Clause 51 just says that the transfer / sale contract between the two clubs can't contain such a restriction.

Clause 68 is a separate rule, set by the league.

[sancho_panza]

Completely agree.
It's not as if the players who've played there instead (Reynolds & Considine) have covered themselves in glory.
And why Arnason didn't play with the u-20's to get game time was very odd.

I don't find the Arnason situation that odd. He was given a chance in the first game of the season, played badly (worse than anything Considine and Reynolds have produced this season) and has been on the bench since. Maybe it was just a one off bad game and he'll come back into the side, but we're basically talking about someone being dropped after playing terribly so it's not really surprising.

[stansmith]

I don't find the Arnason situation that odd. He was given a chance in the first game of the season, played badly (worse than anything Considine and Reynolds have produced this season) and has been on the bench since. Maybe it was just a one off bad game and he'll come back into the side, but we're basically talking about someone being dropped after playing terribly so it's not really surprising.

As we covered before here, this is a myth. He miskicked it up to 4 times and apart from that was very solid. He was then replaced by Reynolds who immediately put us in constant danger against 10 men.

[sancho_panza]

As we covered before here, this is a myth. He miskicked it up to 4 times and apart from that was very solid. He was then replaced by Reynolds who immediately put us in constant danger against 10 men.

If you have a different view on what you saw (different to my view and evidently the view of our manager) then that's fine, but calling it a myth that he had a bad game is fairly absurd.

He got caught flat-footed on a cross, sclaffed a clearance, and it nearly resulted in Hamilton scoring. He mis-hit a clearance on the edge of our box that gave Hamilton possession that thankfully came to nothing. His use of the ball wasn't great either: at one point he had comfortable possession, ran into trouble and had to hoof it 50 yards up the park aimlessly to compensate. That isn't solid defending and it's neither surprising that he was subbed after an hour or that he hasn't started a game since.

I like Arnason and I hope he'll get another opportunity sooner rather than later, but the far-fetched chin-scratching above to try and explain his absence is completely unnecessary. He played badly in his only start, he was dropped and there really isn't much need to explain anything beyond that.

[stansmith]

If you have a different view on what you saw (different to my view and evidently the view of our manager) then that's fine, but calling it a myth that he had a bad game is fairly absurd.

He got caught flat-footed on a cross, sclaffed a clearance, and it nearly resulted in Hamilton scoring. He mis-hit a clearance on the edge of our box that gave Hamilton possession that thankfully came to nothing. His use of the ball wasn't great either: at one point he had comfortable possession, ran into trouble and had to hoof it 50 yards up the park aimlessly to compensate. That isn't solid defending and it's neither surprising that he was subbed after an hour or that he hasn't started a game since.

I like Arnason and I hope he'll get another opportunity sooner rather than later, but the far-fetched chin-scratching above to try and explain his absence is completely unnecessary. He played badly in his only start, he was dropped and there really isn't much need to explain anything beyond that.

I watched it twice to make sure I hadn't missed anything given so many thought he played poorly.

2 of the mistakes that were being cited the ball simply bounced or cannoned off him.

He was solid in terms of organisation, winning every header and not getting walked past a la Reynolds, Considine and O'Connor every single game so far.

Given how badly the others have done in comparison there is no justification in him not playing.

[ILikeJam]

I wasn't at the game; and haven't seen any highlights, so all I have to go on is the BBC website match report.

From that, to me, it seems Thistle got lucky. 3 goals from 5 chances. That happens in football. We scored 4 from 16 chances.

Foxxake, the posts on here whining about the defence are almost as tiresome as the 2 trolls on the new stadium threads. If we continue winning 4-3, 5-4, 6-5 who gives a f@@k. We're top of the league today - get the beers in ....


LV min I usually agree with your posts and feel like we seem to have a similar outlook on things, but the folk 'whining' about the defence were actually at the game watching what was happening. It was absolutely woeful. Thistle had it sussed after 10 minutes and time after time after time they were throwing crosses into our penalty spot and the ball was completely unchallenged by anyone in blue (and often no Thistle player was there either).

The fact that the stats show they didn't make the most of all those chances merely covers up just how bad it was - I must have come close to bursting a blood vessel on my forehead numerous times in the second half (and that was before Thistle scored...). It was infuriating.

That being said, we looked menacing pretty much every time we went forward - and so we should with May, Stewart, Wright, Christie and McLean starting a game. Add Rooney and GMS to that list and we should be absolutely spanking a few teams this year.

[Don_Corleone]

Arnason was rotten the one time he did get his chance, so it's not surprising he's not been starting. O'Connor hasn't done much wrong and has cemented the RCB position. I think this is the position Arnason is trying to compete for. Reynolds has pace, which Arnason and O'Connor don't have. To play Arnason and O'Connor together would be dangerously slow. I'm sure he'll get his chance soon enough, but of all the positions on the pitch, central defence is the area you want to keep some consistency in, so understandable McInnes isn't changing it every other week, especially when we're winning and sitting top of the league.

[sancho_panza]

I watched it twice to make sure I hadn't missed anything given so many thought he played poorly.

2 of the mistakes that were being cited the ball simply bounced or cannoned off him.

He was solid in terms of organisation, winning every header and not getting walked past a la Reynolds, Considine and O'Connor every single game so far.

Given how badly the others have done in comparison there is no justification in him not playing.

Completely disagree that these mistakes were the ball just cannoning off him. The mistake at the cross comes from his positioning and a poor attempt to play the ball that just redirected it into a dangerous position. The mis-hit clearance he should have been able to clear and just made a bad contact.

But that's actually a side issue here. Even if you want to argue that everybody else is wrong (me, our manager, half the crowd who were murmuring about it, even the Red TV guys who are as rose-tinted as it gets and pointed it out), the fact is he was perceived to play badly and that's why he hasn't started. Pretending his absence is so inexplicable that there must be some kind of behind the scenes unrest with McInnes is pretty nonsensical as far as I'm concerned.

Whether he should start or not is a different question - I'd like to see him given another opportunity as I know he has quality, but I don't find it remotely surprising that McInnes (rightly or wrongly) felt a bit burned by what happened and has been reluctant to start him since.

[87kilos]

Completely disagree that these mistakes were the ball just cannoning off him. The mistake at the cross comes from his positioning and a poor attempt to play the ball that just redirected it into a dangerous position. The mis-hit clearance he should have been able to clear and just made a bad contact.

But that's actually a side issue here. Even if you want to argue that everybody else is wrong (me, our manager, half the crowd who were murmuring about it, even the Red TV guys who are as rose-tinted as it gets and pointed it out), the fact is he was perceived to play badly and that's why he hasn't started. Pretending his absence is so inexplicable that there must be some kind of behind the scenes unrest with McInnes is pretty nonsensical as far as I'm concerned.

Whether he should start or not is a different question - I'd like to see him given another opportunity as I know he has quality, but I don't find it remotely surprising that McInnes (rightly or wrongly) felt a bit burned by what happened and has been reluctant to start him since.

Going with your theory Considine and Reynolds shouldn't be near the team as they've been rank week in week out so far.