Bruce out!

[stateside]

Apparently uninspired football against a side whose payroll pales compared to ours. This is not the right guy for Villa.

[bongosdad]

Oh come on stateside you can't be serious.

[villamon1]

apparently uninspired football against a side whose payroll pales compared to ours. This is not the right guy for villa.

bring back tim!!!!!!

[freer]

Oh come on stateside you can't be serious.

Great reply http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yellow-hd/sarcastic-laugh-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)

From one who believes Agbonlahor is the answer – If he is can someone kindly repeat the question ?

[freer]

bring back tim!!!!!!

Villamon,

At least Tiger Tim tried to play offensive !

Bruce style is tactically negative & totally destitute of ideas he regularly sets us up with 1 up front @ home ?

Today we managed 1 shot on target Brentford comfortably controlled the game, bar for Johnson they might have hit us for 4

Its saddening however Bruce served his purpose (steadying the ship) now “ Were on the road to NOWHERE !"

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/sad/upset-face-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)

[bongosdad]

Sherwood got sacked for a reason and is one of the reasons were in the championship. No thanks.

[bongosdad]

Great reply http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yellow-hd/sarcastic-laugh-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)

From one who believes Agbonlahor is the answer – If he is can someone kindly repeat the question ?

I don't think he's the answer but still feel he's our best striker behind Kodjia and should have started today.

[stateside]

Oh come on stateside you can't be serious. Well judging by Dr Xia's tweet I ain't the only one. He posted three emoji's - a frowny face, an embarrassed face and an angry face.

Read into it what you will, but I think he is fed up like I am.

[freer]

I don't think he's the answer but still feel he's our best striker behind Kodjia and should have started today.

God help us ! If his pathetic 4 goals per season merits citation !

On that basis couple more strikes, you’ll be suggesting we commission a statue in recognition of this seasons haul by Conor Hourihane

http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/1191/animated-statue-image-0007.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-statues-1191.htm)

[freer]

States,

NONE of Bruce's side have ever been anything other than functional

Bruce's game plan V Brentford - these words sum it up Timid, Defective & Tedious

http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/1535/animated-sleeping-image-0019.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-sleeping-1535.htm)

[MissWinnie]

I hear what both you and Freer are saying, Statesey, and I know I am the least tactically aware person on the board, but I kind of just want us to be a little bit brave for once and stick it out with Bruce. I know we won't get the most exciting footy with him, but he's done it before. We need someone who's been there got the tee shirt and is tough enough to withstand the pressure ... I know it's been said a million times before, but I think we need stability first.

[yubbywelch]

I'm with Sis on his one. Regardless of his tactics, and selection of players, subs etc. 1 shot on target. 1! I'm sorry that's the players fault, not the manager. They need to work harder, work as a team.

And Bingo Gabby your saviour, got minutes, and guess what, no goal.

Need to get behind the manager and team, at least till Christmas.

[picasso]

I'm still ok with the manager but his excuse of players being tired from international duty is a weak one. Clearly Harry Kane didn't work hard enough for England.

[westcountryvillain]

6 games in it isn't looking good, 1 win scoring 4 goals and in the other games we've mustered 3 & conceded 9, putting us amongst the lowest scoring and highest conceding. It's a really hard league, the 3 relegated teams from the prem averaging 1 win in 3 but that fixture today is one we should win if we're serious contenders for promotion. It's a game we deserved to lose, at home, to a cheaply assembled side - is the Villa job too big for Bruce?

Bongo - Tim Sherwood is the reason we're not on our 3rd season in this league, when you lose such an important player as Benteke and fill the squad with a load of foreigners not battle hardened to english football (Fox & O'Reilly's approach), you cannot expect to survive. He was never going to be a long term manager, he hasn't the pedigree and probably needs to spend some time as an assistant manager in the lower leagues. We did play some good football under him and none of the losses in the new season were drubbings.

Can't believe that yet again we are going through another "xxxx out" crisis, can't go and buy another squad after all of the changes in the last window so have to stay with the project now. I don't think we'll go up, and if we did we wouldn't survive - all feels too fragile at VP

[stateside]

Aston Villa should NOT be in the bottom half of the second tier. This is NOT acceptable.

[bongosdad]

stateside your acting like the worse hurricane in history is about to hit you.

[bongosdad]

I hear what both you and Freer are saying, Statesey, and I know I am the least tactically aware person on the board, but I kind of just want us to be a little bit brave for once and stick it out with Bruce. I know we won't get the most exciting footy with him, but he's done it before. We need someone who's been there got the tee shirt and is tough enough to withstand the pressure ... I know it's been said a million times before, but I think we need stability first.

Spot on Winnie

[freer]

Hi Winnie

Very valid answer there

Let me clarify my stance, I ain't wanting change for the sake of it

Steve Bruce is an extremely likeable guy, only after his numerous “inspired” additions to our expensive squad its evident S B isn't any closer to fashioning a side capable of challenging than he was 40 odd games ago

Bruce’s modus operandi is not to be beaten in the anticipation we can snatch a goal in the process

S B might have “been there/got the T-shirt” but this isn't a cheap package holiday he’s embarked on

As for handling the pressure, so long as the fans remain optimistic he may survive any ill-conceived assassination theories ?

But as States points out

http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/2116/animated-angry-smiley-image-0205.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-angry-smileys-and-smilies-2116.htm)

Its Dr X who isn't a happy bunny

[samhubball]

😡😢😬

[samhubball]

I couldn't find an emoji with a bedsheet on it

[westcountryvillain]

Hi Winnie

Very valid answer there

Let me clarify my stance, I ain't wanting change for the sake of it

Steve Bruce is an extremely likeable guy, only after his numerous “inspired” additions to our expensive squad its evident S B isn't any closer to fashioning a side capable of challenging than he was 40 odd games ago

Bruce’s modus operandi is not to be beaten in the anticipation we can snatch a goal in the process

S B might have “been there/got the T-shirt” but this isn't a cheap package holiday he’s embarked on

As for handling the pressure, so long as the fans remain optimistic he may survive any ill-conceived assassination theories ?

But as States points out

http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/2116/animated-angry-smiley-image-0205.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-angry-smileys-and-smilies-2116.htm)

Its Dr X who isn't a happy bunny

Spot on Free

[TrianonDave]

4 games to save his job just like RDM, at the minute they are sharing the same record. 6 games won 1 lost 2 drawn 3. Dead man walking!
Bruce needs to get rid of Calder wood now!

[MissWinnie]

Hi Winnie

Very valid answer there

Let me clarify my stance, I ain't wanting change for the sake of it

Steve Bruce is an extremely likeable guy, only after his numerous “inspired” additions to our expensive squad its evident S B isn't any closer to fashioning a side capable of challenging than he was 40 odd games ago

Bruce’s modus operandi is not to be beaten in the anticipation we can snatch a goal in the process

S B might have “been there/got the T-shirt” but this isn't a cheap package holiday he’s embarked on

As for handling the pressure, so long as the fans remain optimistic he may survive any ill-conceived assassination theories ?

But as States points out

http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/2116/animated-angry-smiley-image-0205.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-angry-smileys-and-smilies-2116.htm)

Its Dr X who isn't a happy bunny

Hi Freer,

Thanks for your reply. I've never thought that you, or anyone else on here was wanting change for the sake of it and I take on board your points, which are also valid.

Obviously, there's no getting away from the fact that we are not doing well, and there are concerns about selection and tactics and there's no escaping that the Brentford match was appalling and slightly depressing.

However, we've had a huge overhall of our squad and Bruce has been faced with the challenge of having to experent under the pressure of live games, and the team having to gel under the same pressure too. Villa were in such a bad place when Bruce took over, and, coupled with the expectation that managing/playing for Villa brings, he has faced a Herculean task. He's also given some of the youth a chance, albeit with one arm tied behind his back, with the injury situation, but I think the Norwich match gave us a glimmer of what we can do, and potential ...

When I made the tee shirt comment, I was really referring to his experience at winning promotion out of the Championship. No other manager has done this more than Bruce. I just wonder who we will get if he goes? Will they be any better?

As you know, I'm not one for commenting/debating tactics because I can't. I tend to look at things from a psychological/morale angle and I worry about the impact on morale that yet another change would bring.

As you say, it's not our decison though, and you are right that Dr Xia appears to be losing patience. He's invested heavily, so it's understandable. I'd just really like Bruce to be given a proper chance to see what he can do now. I don't think people operate well/makes good choices with guns to their heads, and despite the vast sums they are paid, managers and players are still human beings.

Ultimately, we all want what is best for Villa though - we just have different ways of seeing things ... and without the benefit of a crystal ball ...

Heads off in seach of elusive crystal ball :)

[bongosdad]

100% correct Winnie. The last thing we need is change right now.

[yubbywelch]

Hi Freer,

Thanks for your reply. I've never thought that you, or anyone else on here was wanting change for the sake of it and I take on board your points, which are also valid.

Obviously, there's no getting away from the fact that we are not doing well, and there are concerns about selection and tactics and there's no escaping that the Brentford match was appalling and slightly depressing.

However, we've had a huge overhall of our squad and Bruce has been faced with the challenge of having to experent under the pressure of live games, and the team having to gel under the same pressure too. Villa were in such a bad place when Bruce took over, and, coupled with the expectation that managing/playing for Villa brings, he has faced a Herculean task. He's also given some of the youth a chance, albeit with one arm tied behind his back, with the injury situation, but I think the Norwich match gave us a glimmer of what we can do, and potential ...

When I made the tee shirt comment, I was really referring to his experience at winning promotion out of the Championship. No other manager has done this more than Bruce. I just wonder who we will get if he goes? Will they be any better?

As you know, I'm not one for commenting/debating tactics because I can't. I tend to look at things from a psychological/morale angle and I worry about the impact on morale that yet another change would bring.

As you say, it's not our decison though, and you are right that Dr Xia appears to be losing patience. He's invested heavily, so it's understandable. I'd just really like Bruce to be given a proper chance to see what he can do now. I don't think people operate well/makes good choices with guns to their heads, and despite the vast sums they are paid, managers and players are still human beings.

Ultimately, we all want what is best for Villa though - we just have different ways of seeing things ... and without the benefit of a crystal ball ...

Heads off in seach of elusive crystal ball :)



Just tell him he's wrong sis. ;D

[bongosdad]

Hi Winnie

Very valid answer there

Let me clarify my stance, I ain't wanting change for the sake of it

Steve Bruce is an extremely likeable guy, only after his numerous “inspired” additions to our expensive squad its evident S B isn't any closer to fashioning a side capable of challenging than he was 40 odd games ago

Bruce’s modus operandi is not to be beaten in the anticipation we can snatch a goal in the process

S B might have “been there/got the T-shirt” but this isn't a cheap package holiday he’s embarked on

As for handling the pressure, so long as the fans remain optimistic he may survive any ill-conceived assassination theories ?

But as States points out

http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/2116/animated-angry-smiley-image-0205.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-angry-smileys-and-smilies-2116.htm)

Its Dr X who isn't a happy bunny

If gabby had started you would be blaming the loss in him.

[freer]

If gabby had started you would be blaming the loss in him.??????

http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/j/jester/graphics-jester-669647.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/)

[TrianonDave]

If I was the manager I would strip the players of their wages. Have we got too many players? There has to be a reason for not gelling.
Need a massive performance tomorrow and some crucial but key changes.

Delaet for Brea . Crap
Jedi for Whelen. Crap
Landsbury for Onomah injured
Hogan for Davis injured
Snoddy for Elmo. Crap
Adomah for Green injured

[stateside]

Better performance from what I read, but 60 minutes against 10 and still can't win. We can still stay up if we get a decent manager.

[mondaze]

sorry brucie time to go. no excuses, no hysteria. we need a new model manager who understands the modern game...

[Sbbiggy]

I agree with some of the earlier posts which say now is not the time to be changing managers and disagree entirely with those who are calling for Bruce's head.

Steve Bruce has a proven managerial track record and is definitely the best that we are likely to get. To those that want him out I would say "Who would you replace him with ?" We've had some dreadful managers in recent years and now we have a much better one, we need to keep him.

If anyone thought we were going to walk straight back into the Premiership they were deluding themselves. Some of us can remember being in the old second division years ago and even the third division at one stage. It was a long hard slog to get back, but get back we did. And we'll do it again but it'll take time. It won't be this season but we'll get there eventually and SB is the best man to make it happen.

[freer]

I have to ask have we improved/developed in the last 41 matches under Steve Bruce ?

I believe the general consensus is there's been little/no progress under his direction

Bruce ne'er sets us up as an attacking side, its the same/same uber cautious/negative approach, were set up to get a draw, hoping to nick something to hold on to.

His strategies/ideas (presuming one exists) are passée & he is rapidly running out of excuses
Am I the only person getting weary of Bruce's post-match rhetoric "mass hysteria"- err “hello Steve your no longer @ Wigan welcome to Aston Villa here the onus is placed firmly on winning.... Here at A V F C its a results driven business buddy ! “


Sadly I can't see him turning us around, We all so wanted him to do well, sadly it hasn't worked

Dr Xia has invested heavily, Wyness is no simpleton, the consequences of further negative results will see Mr Bruce practising his golf in the Algarve


http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/166/animated-golf-image-0082.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-golf-166.htm)

[samhubball]

As we have the manager in charge currently who has the most experience in promoting teams from this ludicrous division and a group of players who are now HIS team... here is a list of managers who are better suited to the job *

*based on those that would come to us. So no one from the premier league or above us in he championship.

Here is the list Freer:

[TrianonDave]

Dead man walking, just 3 games to save his job and we need at least 2 wins! Ok lets not get to manic here but you do have to question why we wasted 40 first half minute with one up front against 10 men, we did not give them anything to think about it was naïve management!
I actually thought we played Okay in the 22nd half and were unlucky not to score on 3 occasions!

Once Traore went off, we should have gone 442 and hauled off the 'iceman' as he looked frozen!!

[samhubball]

I'm sorry but how is it the managers fault that 15 chances went begging?

[samhubball]

If I were a footballer I wouldn't play for the Villa for a million quid. The fans have said quite vocally "why bother" when we have said we are trying to rescind the Lansbury red card.

I would not want to play for or manage a club like this

We shouldn't be in this league
The manager is to blame
The players are to blame
The owner is to blame
Everyone is to blame


Worst fans in the world. And I used to think that about Newcastle fans.

Even when we finished 6th for 3 years in a row we had bellends saying MON had taken us as far as he could.

I'm done.

We are in the championship because we were not good enough and circling the drain just like wigan (who freer belittles even tho they won the FA cup before being relegated)

Either accept the fact this is he hardest league in the world and rome wasn't built in a day or shut up

[TrianonDave]

Sam, You cannot blame the fans either, we don't kick the ball around now do we?
What people were saying or moaning about and believe me ever caller on talk sport on the radio in car coming home from the match was saying was: why the hell did Bruce do nothing for 40 first half minutes while the opposition were down to 10?

We are not the worst fans, we have been through hell and still in it but can command a near 30,000 on a bitterly miserable wet evening and coming just 3 days after another home match. Mate, every villa fan who gives his hard earnt money has the right to moan and should given a medal for watching years of garbage!

Its like a lot of things in life, when the going gets tough, people turn on each other!!

[samhubball]

Dave my complaint is with the fans who immediately want the removal of a manager or the majority of the players. Bruce set up yesterday with the likes of Davis, Bjarnson Snodgrass and Hourihane let alone Elmohammedy, Lansbury and Taylor all of which are attacking minded players. Why would he substitute any of those to be more attacking? 18 shots and no goals is not the managers fault.

It is a poisonous place to play. 15 minutes is the average time before the fans get restless. You can hear it. You can feel it. I wouldn't want to play under those conditions.

He owner has changed. Most of the players have changed and most of all the managers have changed yet here we are again!

Fickleness is basically stability to 90% of villa fans.

Don't pay. Don't go.

[TrianonDave]

Bruce has said it himself, quote " If I was on the terrace, I would boo as well" we are at home, Why are we lining up with one upfront? and having 3 strikers on the bench? why?

[samhubball]

Ok dave 3 strikers on the bench - Kodija just coming back from injury, Hogan no more likely to score that me and Adomah who was less preferred to the new signing Snodgrass.

We have a right to boo because those that pay - do so out of their own pocket and for some reason go to these games.

I'd prefer to go to coalville town or Romulus or Sutton Coldfield Town and watch football for a tenner.

I'm a Villa fan because it is who my dad supports. I wouldn't pay a penny at the monent because it is too expensive amd it's too frustrating.

Aston villa are a second tier side and not a very good one. No one knows why.

All those chances and no goals is not he managers fault tho

[westcountryvillain]

I agree Sam that some of our fans are perennial whingers and find a cloud in every silver lining, AVFC runs in the blood and it's often a desperate passion for them to do well which results in frustration when we don't see attractive football and goals. Whatever 11 Brucie picks the approach always seems to be far too cautious and therefore teams know exactly how to play against us at VP.

Yes we have no right to win games but the huge investment in this squad demands a return, including 95 minutes of hard work all over the pitch.

The MON moans were because we had no plan B, so many home games against lesser teams ended up as draws. Again the massive investment should have yielded better and MON bought players who never or hardly played for him.

[stateside]

Someone asked who do we replace him with? For starters every team we have played has had a manager that out coached us with the exception ofNorwich and even his team controlled a lot of the game. This also includes Shrewsbury and Walsalls managers from the pre season. Add in all the teams that had managers that out coached us last season.

[stateside]

Sam. Why is Hogan so unlikely to score? He scored 14 goals in the same division against the same opponents playing alongside players on lesser wages who cost less money. Perhaps it's because Bruce buys the same players he already has. He purchased for a ridiculously high price in my mind Whelan when he already has Jedinak who is a better option. He purchased Hourihane and Lansbury in the same window who seem to be the same type players and added Snodgrass and Elmo to the right wing where one of our better players Adomah seemed to be good.

These players aren't bad signings to me except Whelan which is a joke signing like Thor has turned out to be, but his management style is awful. Maybe it is living in America where coaches are frowned upon for not making changes at half time or making injuries an excuse or blaming the fans as he did after the Norwich game, but this guy is wearing on me like Lambert did and even he had his moments when we were watchable which Bruce's teams aren't.

[samhubball]

Hogan is more likely to get injured that score from what I've seen of him. The whole "let's buy players who were great at other clubs" but turn into tripe here seems to be a factor.

I didn't watch the game as I hardly ever do now thanks to streams not being available and me being too tight to pay for tickets. But the stats said we should have scored.

If Bruce had taken Davis off at half time and brought on Hogan maybe we would have won. Or maybe he would have tweaked something and had to come off with no one left on the bench to replace him. Maybe Kodija should have started and been taken off after getting his obligatory goal.

I think Steve has been unlucky rather than poor like lambert or RDM

[dazzyowen]

No disrespect to Barnsley but surely this is the week we get a good win n Bruce can sleep well at night for a change ?? Surely...

[Acido]

No disrespect to Barnsley but surely this is the week we get a good win n Bruce can sleep well at night for a change ?? Surely...

Normally when somebody says no disrespect.. you know thats exactly what they DO mean, right Dazza ?. ;)
Anyway I hope your all still wanting Bruce out on Satdy night and that Hourihane has a terrible return to Oakwell. I'll say a 2-2 draw and somebody will get sent off!. Its our 130 year anniversary so there will be a party atmosphere, and look out for some hidden special Willy Wonka style golden tickets in the match programmes.

[stateside]

Hogan is more likely to get injured that score from what I've seen of him. The whole "let's buy players who were great at other clubs" but turn into tripe here seems to be a factor.

I didn't watch the game as I hardly ever do now thanks to streams not being available and me being too tight to pay for tickets. But the stats said we should have scored.

If Bruce had taken Davis off at half time and brought on Hogan maybe we would have won. Or maybe he would have tweaked something and had to come off with no one left on the bench to replace him. Maybe Kodija should have started and been taken off after getting his obligatory goal.

I think Steve has been unlucky rather than poor like lambert or RDM I would say RDM was the unlucky one. How many games went from 3 pts to 1 after we hit the woodwork so often?

[stateside]

Normally when somebody says no disrespect.. you know thats exactly what they DO mean, right Dazza ?. ;)
Anyway I hope your all still wanting Bruce out on Satdy night and that Hourihane has a terrible return to Oakwell. I'll say a 2-2 draw and somebody will get sent off!. Its our 130 year anniversary so there will be a party atmosphere, and look out for some hidden special Willy Wonka style golden tickets in the match programmes. Acido. How has Barnsley done with the money received for Bree, Hourihane, the CB that went to the scum and any other sales between January and the summer?

[TrianonDave]

Bruce bites back at the fans calling him a dinosaur, getting a bit wound up now! He really does need a win tomorrow in front of the Sky cameras, come old potato head, shut me and all the critics up at least for one weekend eh!!
2-0 villa.

Koj and Hurihane

[samhubball]

That's exactly what we need. We need to get 21 points out the next 9 games

[dazzyowen]

Normally when somebody says no disrespect.. you know thats exactly what they DO mean, right Dazza ?. ;)
Anyway I hope your all still wanting Bruce out on Satdy night and that Hourihane has a terrible return to Oakwell. I'll say a 2-2 draw and somebody will get sent off!. Its our 130 year anniversary so there will be a party atmosphere, and look out for some hidden special Willy Wonka style golden tickets in the match programmes.

No disrespect my Barnsley buddy but I don't like your tone lol

Would say good luck but I'd be lying 😂

[Acido]

No disrespect my Barnsley buddy but I don't like your tone lol. Would say good luck but I'd be lying ��

You leave our tone/Tony out of this Daz, whats he done to upset you ?. Normally on England mad Id say good luck to your team as well, but Id also be kidding. At least your not one of the many co*ckneys on there. :P

States, you mean Mark Roberts who left us to join the prat Redknapp at Birmingham, and hes hardly even kicked a ball for them in the last few games lol. We've signed a tonne of unknown kids who know next to nothing about playing in the Champship, and we insist on an age policy of only 18-25 year olds. Adam Hammill is an old man for us now, hes about 30!!. :O

Seeing as loads of our former stars are turning up to celebrate tomorrow, does Connor want to come onto the pitch and wave to us, before toddling off to the away dressing room ?. lol

[picasso]

Not sure if it's just me but I don't want to see Bruce go and I don't even blame him for the poor start we have have made. I put that down to the players. I firmly believe we have the best squad of players in this division but they are not playing anywhere near their potential. Players like Jedi, Hourihane, Johnston took a little while to get going but seemed to have turn a corner. It is now up to the likes of Landsbury, Hogan, Elmo etc to do the same. We need a full team to be playing at their max.

As for formations, I reckon most Prem teams would beat the likes of Brentford and even Middlesbrough whatever formation they were playing. Our players should be good enough to adapt to game conditions, see where the dangers lie and fix it.

[Exiledvillan]

I’m glad SB has exercised his right to reply. A lot of the social media stuff is way over the top and personal in many cases. Just looking through the many forums tells the whole sad story. Faceless ‘Snowflake’, oh so easily offended but quick to abuse, keyboard warriors, appear delighted, or dare I risk offending the little darlings, ‘hysterical’ in their ‘fury’. It’s the same posters posting the exact same sh1te over and over again, almost word for word. Yes we know EXACTLY what you think folks, word for word. So ditch your ‘copy and paste hysterics’ and come up with something new. How many times does someone have to repeat the same line as if trying to reinforce their point with duplicy?
I’m far from happy with our performances, refereeing decisions and points tally, but I will not be resorting to a faceless campaign of abuse towards SB.
What I do say is this:
Ok SB, you’ve had your say, now back it up! Sh1t, or get off the pot!
And to the poor little victims, so offended by that nasty man who publicly defended his own professional reputation, and correctly branding them ‘hysterical’... Get a FFFFing life!!!

P.s. Good post Picasso.

[Exiledvillan]

Just to clear up about the 'victims', just in case my post is seen as a pop at villamad.
"Just looking through the MANY forums tells the whole sad story"

[afoxy52]

I've been struggling to put into words my frustration with AVFC for many years let alone recent seasons but having just read both Picasso & Exiles excellent posts just about sums up my feelings.
Bruce has rarely done attractive football in his managerial career so why all the furore for it now we knew what we we're getting when we signed him
He's a manager who has vast experience in this league & has a reputation for getting teams out of it he & the players assembled in this squad now have to start showing us what they are more than capable of
People will say he's been here x amount of time & has had 2 transfer windows spending money to put it right - ok point taken
But lets not forget the turmoil our club has been in both on & off the pitch these last 7 seasons the purchasing of sub standard players that were no better than what we alreadyhad,the knock on effect those purchases had on our youth team,young players who weren't deemed fit for purpose & yet here we are finding some of those kids playing against us in this league,as for the management of this club as we all know that's been nothing short of a disgrace,so to be looking to have it all put right immediately is ridiculous
So to change managers again so soon after RDM & have the upheaval of it all over again no
I don't think so.
I am tired of the managerial merry go round all the usual suspects poking their head over the parapet whenever our club is looking for a new manager & whilst Bruce may have not be everyone's ideal
appointment,at present he is here & these are his players let him have the chance to prove his worth
Bruce imo now needs to find a system & the personal to suit it & form & injuries permitting consistently stick with it both home & away then maybe a more clearer picture can be drawn on both the capabilities of both the manager & the players
Keep The Faith
UTV

[TrianonDave]

I've been struggling to put into words my frustration with AVFC for many years let alone recent seasons but having just read both Picasso & Exiles excellent posts just about sums up my feelings.
Bruce has rarely done attractive football in his managerial career so why all the furore for it now we knew what we we're getting when we signed him
He's a manager who has vast experience in this league & has a reputation for getting teams out of it he & the players assembled in this squad now have to start showing us what they are more than capable of
People will say he's been here x amount of time & has had 2 transfer windows spending money to put it right - ok point taken
But lets not forget the turmoil our club has been in both on & off the pitch these last 7 seasons the purchasing of sub standard players that were no better than what we alreadyhad,the knock on effect those purchases had on our youth team,young players who weren't deemed fit for purpose & yet here we are finding some of those kids playing against us in this league,as for the management of this club as we all know that's been nothing short of a disgrace,so to be looking to have it all put right immediately is ridiculous
So to change managers again so soon after RDM & have the upheaval of it all over again no
I don't think so.
I am tired of the managerial merry go round all the usual suspects poking their head over the parapet whenever our club is looking for a new manager & whilst Bruce may have not be everyone's ideal
appointment,at present he is here & these are his players let him have the chance to prove his worth
Bruce imo now needs to find a system & the personal to suit it & form & injuries permitting consistently stick with it both home & away then maybe a more clearer picture can be drawn on both the capabilities of both the manager & the players
Keep The Faith
UTV

Some really good sobering thoughts here!!

I actually think the pressures now on; Barnsley tonight, many people will expect us to lose because of our abysmal away record and the fact we have started slowly but sometimes a victory comes when people least expect it.

I think Barnsley fans turning up tonight looking for an easy victory may just end up very disappointed?
Time for our players to stand up and be counted.

[samhubball]

Some really good sobering thoughts here!!

I actually think the pressures now on; Barnsley tonight, many people will expect us to lose because of our abysmal away record and the fact we have started slowly but sometimes a victory comes when people least expect it.

I think Barnsley fans turning up tonight looking for an easy victory may just end up very disappointed?
Time for our players to stand up and be counted.

Away AND on TV.

I'd expect an easy win too if I was Barnsley. We have to start winning today though

COME ON VILLAAAAAA

[stateside]

Definitely great and sobering words from Sam, Picasso, Exiled and Foxy. I am very happy to read your points of view and am taking them on board. I was not aware Bruce had a reputation for unattractive football and it justifies my original position that I did not want his appointment, but I did say I would support him, but it is the unattractive football combined with lack of results that has made me want him gone.
I do like that he is throwing youth players out there and has started Green and Davis this season and other youth in the cup.

I knew Exiled, you weren't addressing us with your post as Freer and I have stated we respect Bruce as a manager and a gentleman.

[TrianonDave]

Well o asked for it and got it, well done Bruce. Well done TEAM

[stateside]

Well done Villa.

[stateside]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/listen-defiance-steve-bruces-voice-13631662

Certainly feel better after hearing his words. I like that he called himself out for using the younger players coming back from international duty.

Glad he's still on board as seeing what Birmingham did looks a little stupid now.

[Acido]

Now then you Villingham lot (and I just love that word, has anybody ever called you Villingham on here, before I did ? lol).
Anyway if Im going to post on here before a match, believe me I WILL stay on here after the match regardless of the result. So then everybody, lets talk turkey. :P

I went today and f*k that was poor from us!!. My Tykes have won all of our 4 league & league cup matches so far, but from the start today we set up terribly with the awful 1 up front. Hecky seems to love this because we're a heavily midfield based squad, but for me its the strikers who DO win matches more than anybody else in the long run.

So anyway after this win today, who on here has changed their minds about the idea of 'Bruce OUT' ?. :?

[samhubball]

Well done lads. Honestly, we needed that. We needed a great result in no doubt away from home on TV and with Davis on the score sheet.

Onwards and upwards. It is a marathon and I have faith in Steve Bruce to deliver for our club. Given enough time!!

I'd love 6 more wins in a row. I have a sneaking suspicion that is EXACTLY what will happen now

[stateside]

Now then you Villingham lot (and I just love that word, has anybody ever called you Villingham on here, before I did ? lol).
Anyway if Im going to post on here before a match, believe me I WILL stay on here after the match regardless of the result. So then everybody, lets talk turkey. :P

I went today and f*k that was poor from us!!. My Tykes have won all of our 4 league & league cup matches so far, but from the start today we set up terribly with the awful 1 up front. Hecky seems to love this because we're a heavily midfield based squad, but for me its the strikers who DO win matches more than anybody else in the long run.

So anyway after this win today, who on here has changed their minds about the idea of 'Bruce OUT' ?. :? did you mean you won all your home matches?

[bongosdad]

Humble pie anyone?

[TrianonDave]

Humble pie Bongo? He's a northerner, as long as there is Graaavy they will eat any pie!!!!

[Acido]

did you mean you won all your home matches?

Yes States, and even though it was 1-2 v Ipswich at Oakwell, we still played them off the park and 'beat' them. (ok in fairness, I actually forgot we lost that match.) ;)
I take it your not bothered about the Lg cup, Bruce doesn't seem to be bothered with that changed squad he picked against Middlesbrough.

[stateside]

Would have been nice to win, but we evidently have some pretty poor reserves and a very poor manager so we have to try to improve on last years 13th place.

Barnsley played well at Wembley I am guessing. We would have lost 4-0 under Bruce.

[Acido]

Im completely against them playing at Wembley anyway, but thats another matter.
We were totally outplayed there but Tottingham still only beat us 1-0 and their fans were annoyed at them. There was always a chance of us surprising them but it wasn't to be. And most fans don't seem to care about the Lg cup nowadays.