Motherwell v Aberdeen QF roll call.....

[mondo_notion]

Win one game and we're in to another semi-final. Must admit not the biggest fan of this cup but we need to win on Thursday night.

Not even going to try and predict a starting 11, I would like to see GMS start even though we were poor on Saturday I saw signs he was getting his confidence back and he was getting some nice crosses in.

Got a few tickets for upper tier spare if anyone is looking for some.

In/oot - In
Furryboots - upper tier
Pre-match - pint or 2 somewhere
Post-match - hotel
Prediction - 2-2 after 90

[Pacman1903]

In/Oot - Oot
Furryboots-Atlantic
Pre- Graft
Post - Reading
Prediction - 0-0

[Aldo1983]

Going on Sunday instead.

1-0 them

[donsdaft]

Oot
My midweek away days to Motherwell are in the past.

I thought GMS looked clueless yesterday.

Big game though, if we lose we could be in trouble.

[RedStarTorphins]

Win one game and we're in to another semi-final. Must admit not the biggest fan of this cup but we need to win on Thursday night.

Not even going to try and predict a starting 11, I would like to see GMS start even though we were poor on Saturday I saw signs he was getting his confidence back and he was getting some nice crosses in.

Got a few tickets for upper tier spare if anyone is looking for some.

In/oot - In
Furryboots - upper tier
Pre-match - pint or 2 somewhere
Post-match - hotel
Prediction - 2-2 after 90


In
Back of lower tier
Driving
2-1 Motherwell - Moult (2)
Cue the inquisitions about Tombolas etc

DM will go for;

Lewis
Logan Arnason AOC Considine
Ball/Tansey Shinnie
Christie McLean GMS
May

[BorneoRed]

Interesting that no one yet has predicted us to win, which is understandable with our current form. And Aldo never predicts we win anyway.
I will go for a scrappy 1-0 win, probably from a penalty.

[February_1971]

2-0 the Dons, too much negative ****s.

[RedStarTorphins]

2-0 the Dons, too much negative ****s.

Not sure it's negativity as such, more a reflection that we've been poor most of the season and only playing the bottom teams has masked that.
Also, Motherwell are playing well and have won last 4 at home I think it is.
Put it this way, play as we have been and we'll get knocked out IMO.

[Pacman1903]

Not sure it's negativity as such, more a reflection that we've been poor most of the season and only playing the bottom teams has masked that.
Also, Motherwell are playing well and have won last 4 at home I think it is.
Put it this way, play as we have been and we'll get knocked out IMO.

Cant disagree with that

[Aldo1983]

Interesting that no one yet has predicted us to win, which is understandable with our current form. And Aldo never predicts we win anyway.
I will go for a scrappy 1-0 win, probably from a penalty.


I predicted we would win 3-1 against Kilmarnock against my better judgement.

[Pacman1903]

I predicted we would win 3-1 against Kilmarnock against my better judgement.


Well you know what to do from now on ye f@cking jinx

[rico94]

I seem to remember this time last season everyone was saying we weren't playing well even though we were winning games,Im sure it was around this time last year we beat Dundee,St Johnstone and Sevco in the same week.

Even the season when we won the first 8 games in a row I dont think we played particularly great in many of those games,in fact apart from the 2nd half of last season where we were humping teams by 7 goals almost all of DM's reign has been us going on winning runs without playing that great.

[Aldo1983]

Well you know what to do from now on ye f@cking jinx

Lose 6-0. Same on Sunday.

[Mason89]

Oot
Going on Sunday
We'll win them both

[PittodriePile]

In/oot - In + 4
Furryboots - Upper Tier
Pre-match - Drive down
Post-match - Drive up
Prediction - Win

[Pauldolski10]

Oot
Workin til back o 5
Watch at pub whilst playin darts
Hame happy efter winning fitba and darts
2-1 May and GMS

[awafaehame]

In/oot - In
Furryboots - Lower Deck Row N
Pre-match - Wherever the mini bus takes us
Post-match - Wherever the mini bus drops us
Prediction - Win 2-1 AET

[RED_JOHN]

In/oot - oot.

I will predict an uncomfortable win with the following starting eleven

Lewis
Logan
Shinnie
O'Connor
Considine
Ball
McLean
Christie
Mackay-Steven
May
Tansey

[redtaz]

in upper
pre dinner with missus
post travel back hopefully no issues with that bloody motorway
prediction 3;1 our boys finally get some results from good link up play

[standfreelee]

oot - @ hame

home from clair ridge iday so beers @ woodend bar to save sitting in traffic then bus hame

family time

scrappy 2-1 win. celtic next round :/

[Don_Corleone]

Home watching on red tv - if it works.

Hoping we scrape a win, although despite being unbeaten i'm not overly confident for some reason

I think McInnes needs to just stick to a preferred starting 11 and use the settled formation and system that's worked for the last 2 or 3 years. Changing it every other week isn't helping.

Lewis
Logan OConnor Arnason Considine
McLean Shinnie
Stewart Christie Wright or GMS
May

That to me is the best starting 11 we have, so go with that most weeks if possible. Others can come in if necessary but don't just keep changing it around just for the sake of it.

[pieandbovrilman]

oot - @ hame

home from clair ridge iday :/ Stair ridge?? I feel sorry for ye bud! I'd need more than a few beers if I'd just got off there!

[Jupiter]

Lets hope the tombola hasn't been used again today, because if it has, we will lose.

[RedStarTorphins]

Lets hope the tombola hasn't been used again today, because if it has, we will lose.

Lewis
Logan O'Connor Reynolds Considine
Ball Shinnie
Christie McLean GMS
May

Rogers Arnason Stewart, Wright, Rooney Maynard Tansey

Hopefully he doesn't f**k about with 3 at the back.

[Don_Corleone]

Lets hope the tombola hasn't been used again today, because if it has, we will lose.

Yup. Our strongest lineup beats everyone in this league bar Celtic. We don't need to adapt the system to play against other team's systems - just play the same system and team every week and win. Occassionally change one player at a time to freshen things up. Onus is on players to make an impression when they get the chance, not on the manager to endlessly swap the team about to keep everyone happy.

[Jupiter]

When Ball played against Hearts, it was that weird 3-4-3 with a big hole at left back. Hopefully it's not that again.

[macattack]

Lewis
Logan O'Connor Reynolds Considine
Ball Shinnie
Christie McLean GMS
May

Rogers Arnason Stewart, Wright, Rooney Maynard Tansey

Hmm I will reserve judgement on that team would have tried 4-4-2 with Rooney & May upfront!

[InversneckieDob]

In/oot -Oot
Furryboots -Usher Hall, Embra
Pre-match - beer and food
Post-match - beer
Prediction - ugly win to kick start things

[RedStarTorphins]

Hmm I will reserve judgement on that team would have tried 4-4-2 with Rooney & May upfront!

Don't mind the 4-2-3-1 it's just one or two of the personnel I'm not happy with.
Reynolds
What did Arnason do wrong?
McLean at 10? Meaning Christie is punted wide right.
Put simply, Christie is better than McLean.

[rico94]

Don't mind the 4-2-3-1 it's just one or two of the personnel I'm not happy with.
Reynolds
What did Arnason do wrong?
McLean at 10? Meaning Christie is punted wide right.
Put simply, Christie is better than McLean.

I hope I get made to eat my words but Christie never plays as well when he is out wide.

Why can't he bench McLean for a game?

Play Christie behind May and Wright on the wing.

[RedStarTorphins]

I hope I get made to eat my words but Christie never plays as well when he is out wide.

Why can't he bench McLean for a game?

Play Christie behind May and Wright on the wing.

Partially agree.
KM does need dropped & I'd have had RC at "10".
But Wright hasn't been great last two games so not surprised he's benched.
GMS needs to step up though.
Not sure why Arnason is out for Reynolds unless it's purely to give us a bit more pace at back.

[rico94]

Partially agree.
KM does need dropped & I'd have had RC at "10".
But Wright hasn't been great last two games so not surprised he's benched.
GMS needs to step up though.
Not sure why Arnason is out for Reynolds unless it's purely to give us a bit more pace at back.

True but he is young and will have ups and downs,anyway if not Wright then Stewart instead of shoe horning Christie into the team so McLean can play.

Maybe Arnason will struggle to play 2 games in a week,that's all I can think of because he played well on Saturday.

[macattack]

Oh Crap should have guessed Moult would score :blue: Lewis Howler :blue:

[Hairdrier]

Ffs

[Pacman1903]

F@cking great

[Hairdrier]

FFS x2

Lewis again

[macattack]

WTF is going on 2-0 Lewis with mistakes for both :( :blue:

[Jormungand]

Well this is going well.

[medw1311]

FFS Lewis again....wth is happening?

[Pacman1903]

Well done Joe Clangers

Winna have to worry about being affshore for the final

[Hairdrier]

A bunch of blouses.

[Jormungand]

I blame the blue strip.

[ByeByeScum2012]

We could get a right doing here

[DonVincenzo (The II)]

We could get a right doing here

Plenty time to win 3-2 but we have started shockingly. WTF

[theram1975]

Sooner GMS is off the better.

[Hairdrier]

GMS off (powder puff) Rooney on.

[ByeByeScum2012]

GMS and Ball are sh!te

[Pacman1903]

GMS off (powder puff) Rooney on.

We knew that when he signed

[macattack]

GMS off (powder puff) Rooney on.

Fingers Crossed Rooney can get a goal before half time and give us a chance 2nd half what is formation btw ?

[theram1975]

No wonder Joe's got the jitters with all the different partnerships and formations in front of him every week.

Craigen's annoying me more than GMS and McLean which is saying something.

[theram1975]

Fit wing did GMS play on for Utd?

I mind seeing him on the left for them.

Shouldn't be on the pitch with us.

[irnbru1903]

A team that has lost it's heart with the loss of McGinn and Hayes. I am honestly shocked at how predictable and poor we are going forward given the players that have been brought in.

[KIWIRED]

So far we are utter pish.

The only guy who looks at all interested is Ryan Christie, the rest very very poor just going through the motions

Come on Reds ....... We are better than this

[Feck_the_Huns]

Utter horsesh1t tonight, and we cant say this hasn't been coming. Fartz should have beaten us, Dundee and Partick also.

Goalkeeping errors notwithstanding, we should be 3 or 4 down but utterly gutless performance so far.

Lewis's nerves will be shredded, which is another massive minus,

Crazy crazy formation and personnel within it

[Feck_the_Huns]

Ball's clearly a CB and nae a midfielder.
Just get Christie central and give him the ball.

Aside from powder-puff defence, wide-right is problem area for me this season. DM done his normal - signed a load of '10's and plays them out of position.

This mid-field needs changed pronto.

Aye, who the fcuk is playing wide right? Nae cnut.

[theram1975]

I was confused by Craigen saying he was playing in an unusual role?
Like you said he speaks utter sh*te.

Early on in the match he said Aberdeen have been playing great in the past month.

It it doesn't involve Motherwell or Rangers then he doesn't have a clue.

[Aldo1983]

No wonder Joe's got the jitters with all the different partnerships and formations in front of him every week.

Craigen's annoying me more than GMS and McLean which is saying something.

I've turned the volume down. I can't stand him as it is.

[theram1975]

Players back out already, McLean still on. :(

[Hairdrier]

Motherwell going through unless these imposters get their act together.

[Rochead]

Completely disjointed, too much chopping and changing

[ByeByeScum2012]

How the phuck is Ball still on

[Jormungand]

holy moly the ******* hair on thon guy

[ByeByeScum2012]

How is Arnie for Reynolds going to change the game?

[leontrotsky]

Thank **** i decide nae to go , this is ****ing bowf ( again )

[thebeachend]

How is Arnie for Reynolds going to change the game?
the question is how can DM make such a rickett with the starting 11 and formation in the first place. clueless.

[Aldo1983]

It's been coming for weeks.

[Mason89]

the question is how can DM make such a rickett with the starting 11 and formation in the first place. clueless.

Similar to the game when Hibs papped is out, when half our team were right backs. McInnes isn't half as smart as he thinks he is

[irnbru1903]

Absolutely no chance of getting back into this game and the two pronged worry is that we have neither the talent nor it seems the guts to get stuck in enough.

[ByeByeScum2012]

Out fought, out thought and out played.

[TheRealSLYFOX]

Played for 70 minutes with 4! Centre Halfs on!
GMS should have been sacked after that fiasco in Glasgow. Utterly shot he doesn't look well.

[ByeByeScum2012]

Where the phuck was Lewis??

[medw1311]

well that's that then.....

[erchieplum]

Well done motherwell, we were atrocious ,deservedly papped out of the cup

[thebeachend]

Arnason playing the ash taylor centre forward role....honestly DM just **** off min. a lot of good players at your disposal, but you're clueless. Not based on 1 result, based on the last 2 years.

[irnbru1903]

Every decision is going their way too which is just an observation and not an excuse for our wretched play which deserves nothing from this game. Not one pass mark tonight. Piss poor and utterly pathetic capitulation.

[rico94]

"That's what we do know,we get to cup finals"

Derek McInnes May 2017

Oh aye so we do.

[theram1975]

Played for 70 minutes with 4! Centre Halfs on!


Aye and our number 1 centre half was our 3rd choice last season who could barely get a game.

No doubt Sunday will be same tactics with different personnel.

[Mason89]

One cup out of thir****

Better than previous managers but still sh1t

[Pacman1903]

Well done you useless bunch of b@stards. Round two on Sunday. Buck up your f@cking ideas McInnes

[81,82,83,84]

****ing diabolical.

[EintrachtFrankfurt]

Pile of shyte. :mad:

[ByeByeScum2012]

Only Christie worth more than 4/10 tonight. As others have said that has been coming as we have been sh!te all season.

We are bottom 6 material at the moment.

[macattack]

Pile of shyte. :mad:

Took the words right oot of my mouth >:(

[Landvetter83]

What a f@cking shambles ....

[Aldo1983]

Shinnie looked pish but tactics causing the damage. Wright should have been on as a sub.

I don't mind getting beat from Motherwell once in a while but the performance was shocking.

[Mason89]

Good stuff playing Arnason up front. We've been missing that since Taylor left.

Has any good ever came out of that?

[TheRealSLYFOX]

Taylor. Play Arnason
Jack. Play Tansey
McGinn. Play Stewart
Hayes. Play Wright
I'm sure that was the plan pre season? Not one started.
Money wasted on Maynard, GMS & Ball simply not required, we could have got a decent left back for that.

[Jormungand]

Christ, was that Motherwell's biggest win in years or fit? Certainly enjoying themselves.

We were dreadful. Zero intelligence, no ability to get near their goal.

[Mason89]

we could have got a decent left back for that.

We might have one. Unfortunately McInnes doesn't trust the younger players

[ByeByeScum2012]

Anyone else still buying the "strongest squad yet" p!sh?

On the evidence so far, and last 2 games in particular:

Maynard- sh!te
GMS- sh!te
Stewart- sh!te
Arnie- shadow of former self
Ball - Ballix
Tansey - jury still out
May- only good one

[Aldo1983]

Considine will always struggle with a three man defence. Everyone knows that...except...

[Don_Corleone]

Shambles.

Starting line up was daft, and the substitutions pointless. Lewis has made 2, probably 3 howlers, but team performance was hopeless.

Christie was about only player who looked like he really wanted it tonight. Rest were abysmal.

Stick to a first choice starting 11 in the same system we've used the last couple years please.

Lewis
Logan OConnor Arnason Considine
Shinnie McLean
Stewart Christie Wright
May

Rooney is increasingly a waste of time as he's totally immobile - even up alongside May. Taking off a creative player to put him on was stupid. Game was crying out for someone like Wright or Stewart with ability to beat a man.

[rico94]

Anyone else still buying the "strongest squad yet" p!sh?

On the evidence so far, and last 2 games in particular:

Maynard- sh!te
GMS- sh!te
Stewart- sh!te
Arnie- shadow of former self
Ball - Ballix
Tansey - jury still out
May- only good one

It wasn't that long ago everyone was moaning about McGinns set pieces but they look a hell of a lot better than Tanseys so far.

[Feck_the_Huns]

Similar to the game when Hibs papped is out, when half our team were right backs. McInnes isn't half as smart as he thinks he is

Which is why AFC is the height of his abilities.

He'd have been sacked at Sunderland by now, had he gone there.

The saddest thing about all of this is that it was entirely predictable tonight. Said to work colleagues today I reckoned 2-0, and it was even worse

[Hairdrier]

A team full of paper tigers and a manager that has no confidence in his players and hasn't a clue about what his best team is.

It's going to be a long season.

[Feck_the_Huns]

Shambles.

Starting line up was daft, and the substitutions pointless. Lewis has made 2, probably 3 howlers, but team performance was hopeless.

Christie was about only player who looked like he really wanted it tonight. Rest were abysmal.

Stick to a first choice starting 11 in the same system we've used the last couple years please.

Lewis
Logan OConnor Arnason Considine
Shinnie McLean
Stewart Christie Wright
May

Rooney is increasingly a waste of time as he's totally immobile - even up alongside May. Taking off a creative player to put him on was stupid. Game was crying out for someone like Wright or Stewart with ability to beat a man.

Considine should never play left back at AFC again.

For me on sunday

Lewis
Logan Arnason AOC Shinnie
Tansey McLean
Stewart Christie Wright
May

[Jupiter]

Semi final draw, they've had the hot balls out again

Rangers v Motherwell

Hibernian v Celtic

[Aldo1983]

Semi final draw, they've had the hot balls out again

Rangers v Motherwell

Hibernian v Celtic

They'd destroy us anyway.

[GlezgaRed]

Considine should never play left back at AFC again.

For me on sunday

Lewis
Logan Arnason AOC Shinnie
Tansey McLean
Stewart Christie Wright
May

I agree about Considine but he will definitely start on Sunday, even though McLean has been horrific this season i'd go with you're 11 aswell.

[RedStarTorphins]

Where to start with that f*cking shambles!!

- McInnes had a nightmare. Sh1te subs, sh1te tactics.
- Lewis had a rare nightmare
- Considine had a horrendous match & needs replaced.
- How the f*ck Reynolds got a new contract beggars belief.
- outfought, out thought (on & off pitch)
- powder puff in midfield, epitomised by Mackay-Steven who is a gutless wee sh1te. What a waste of a shirt he is.
- we are p1sh out wide. We had nothing there.
- McInnes does not know his best team or formation.
- he's not as good as he thinks or some think he is.
- baffling subs tonight. Tansey on instead of Wright?
- Shinnie looks a shadow of last years player
- This is going to be a long season

My prediction is we'll be 4th
By end October we'll be behind Dhims, SEVCO & Hibs.

Tonight was completely unacceptable.

I don't think we'll win any of our next 5 games

[rico94]

Considine should never play left back at AFC again.

For me on sunday

Lewis
Logan Arnason AOC Shinnie
Tansey McLean
Stewart Christie Wright
May

That's a powderpuff midfield Tansey and McLean couldn't tackle a fish supper between them.

[thebeachend]

If we had a state of the art training facility within 50 yards of the ground i still believe DM would have set up with no width, no midfield and the wrong players on the pitch.

[OhioRed]

Rooney is increasingly a waste of time as he's totally immobile - even up alongside May. Taking off a creative player to put him on was stupid. Game was crying out for someone like Wright or Stewart with ability to beat a man.

Rooney had a relatively poor season last season in the league and the reason is pretty obvious. For some reason he seems to think he can play out wide and so spends a lot of time in areas of the field where he has little to no chance of scoring. As his only real job is sticking the ball in the back of the net this is not useful.

We have had 3 bad games in a row. We really have never looked like we might score in the last 3 games and have only 1 goal to show from all 3. The reason is mainly lack of service to the strikers. The long ball up the field from Joe Lewis is not really service. GMS was not really doing what he needs to tonight, which is run the left channel. Instead he would pass the ball rather than take on the defender. Even so when he was taken off we just didn't have anyone to cross the ball into the centre. We must play a wide player all the time (not Rooney), because most of our chances tend to come from crosses into the box. We are also much more effective when we have players run with the ball, but this team seems much more inclined to pass than to take responsibility and run with the ball.

These issues need to be addressed if we are to have a decent season.

[GlezgaRed]

Starting line up was daft, and the substitutions pointless.

Rooney is increasingly a waste of time as he's totally immobile - even up alongside May. Taking off a creative player to put him on was stupid. Game was crying out for someone like Wright or Stewart with ability to beat a man.

Adam Rooney of 2017 has been worse than a man short, cumbersome and dreadful touch.....as you say why put him on when we weren't even getting the ball into the box, it had to be Wright or Stewart and just keep the ball in their half and get in behind them but no he puts on Rooney and we just pump aimless balls up the park.
Rooney up top also shunted May out of position, did Rooney do anything at all in the game ?

Every single player was useless tonight, that was a return to the bad days of McGhee tonight.

[RedStarTorphins]

Considine should never play left back at AFC again.

For me on sunday

Lewis
Logan Arnason AOC Shinnie
Tansey McLean
Stewart Christie Wright
May

Generally, we're too small & too easily bullied. See GMS. He's a f*cking passenger. He ran scared tonight from Cadden.
We're a disjointed shambles.
No width after GMS went off.
Too many poor defenders. Why didn't Arnason start FFS?
Powder puff midfield.
From minute 1, Motherwell outfought us & played at a high pace.
Their two forwards were excellent & totally bullied our back 4.
Everything stuck when the ball was played to them.

[rico94]

Just imagine what he'd do with all that extra thinking time due to not travelling :O
It's a no from me :p

I get the impression if the stadium and training ground gets rejected McInnes won't hang around much longer.

If it does there is as much chance of Milne getting rid of McInnes than there is of McInnes dropping McLean.

[Feck_the_Huns]

Where to start with that f*cking shambles!!

- McInnes had a nightmare. Sh1te subs, sh1te tactics.
- Lewis had a rare nightmare
- Considine had a horrendous match & needs replaced.
- How the f*ck Reynolds got a new contract beggars belief.
- outfought, out thought (on & off pitch)
- powder puff in midfield, epitomised by Mackay-Steven who is a gutless wee sh1te. What a waste of a shirt he is.
- we are p1sh out wide. We had nothing there.
- McInnes does not know his best team or formation.
- he's not as good as he thinks or some think he is.
- baffling subs tonight. Tansey on instead of Wright?
- Shinnie looks a shadow of last years player
- This is going to be a long season

My prediction is we'll be 4th
By end October we'll be behind Dhims, SEVCO & Hibs.

Tonight was completely unacceptable.

I don't think we'll win any of our next 5 games

You reckon we'll finish 4th? I'd say we'll do very well to finish even that high

Willie Miller has just accused GMS of bottling it tonight v Chris Cadden. Can't argue, we did it to him back in the day, with Flood and Robson. So McInnes thought he could change him?

[Feck_the_Huns]

I get the impression if the stadium and training ground gets rejected McInnes won't hang around much longer.

If it does there is as much chance of Milne getting rid of McInnes than there is of McInnes dropping McLean.

who'se going to take McInnes off our hands?

We are the height of his abilities. And he won't walk.

[Mason89]

So McInnes thought he could change him?

Same with the rapist. The whole of Scotland could see the direction his career was going but not McInnes. When GMS was at Celtic & the PJMs, he was often being called a powderpuff wee show pony on here. Guess what? We've signed a powderpuff wee show pony. Who could've saw that one coming?

[irnbru1903]

So after a so so start to the season it has become clear we need a pair of central defenders, an entire midfield and a pair of wide players to get the ball into a new striker in the Moult vain. As it happens it was our strongest position that let us down badly tonight putting us on the back foot from the first quarter of the match so we be as well throw in a new GK.

Problem sorted. Oh but then the players will get played out of position on a tombola basis so we need a more reliable manager that might take a chance on some young players but has the strength in his own convictions to pick his strongest 11 and trust that they are not so powderpuff that they can play once and maybe possibly twice a week every so often.

Is that too much to ask for?

[RedStarTorphins]

Same with the rapist. The whole of Scotland could see the direction his career was going but not McInnes. When GMS was at Celtic & the PJMs, he was often being called a powderpuff wee show pony on here. Guess what? We've signed a powderpuff wee show pony. Who could've saw that one coming?

I agree.
He's a heartless weasel.
Got totally spooked by Cadden tonight,
His career is on a downward spiral.
He'll be at Ross County in a year.
He's sh1te.
Talent is nothing with no effort or heart.
We're woeful out wide.
Stewart is fat & slow
GMS is a nonce.
Wright - young lad who seems hot & cold but I'd give him a few games.

[rico94]

who'se going to take McInnes off our hands?

We are the height of his abilities. And he won't walk.

Thats the problem,can't blame him for not going to Sunderland they are a train wreck and will get relegated again this season.

If McInnes turns it around and gets us playing well maybe a league 1 side in England would take him.

The thing is I don't think it will get any better than it is under McInnes as long as Milne is the chairman,if the stadium gets rejected he should stand down and let a new man bring in his own manager but that will never happen.

[RedStarTorphins]

You reckon we'll finish 4th? I'd say we'll do very well to finish even that high

Willie Miller has just accused GMS of bottling it tonight v Chris Cadden. Can't argue, we did it to him back in the day, with Flood and Robson. So McInnes thought he could change him?

Maybe 4th is optimistic.
We have been dross all season.
I don't think we'll win a game in the next 5.
F**k knows where we'll be then,

Even players we could usually rely on (Logan & Shinnie) are playing sh1te.

Add in plodders who are not good enough like Considine, Reynolds, Ball etc, then it's going to be a long season.

How much is it the managers fault and his sh1te team selections & formations, how much is it the players?

Maybe 70% McInnes as he's signed them.
Don't suppose he can legislate for big Joe throwing 3 in.

[Feck_the_Huns]

I agree.
He's a heartless weasel.
Got totally spooked by Cadden tonight,
His career is on a downward spiral.
He'll be at Ross County in a year.
He's sh1te.
Talent is nothing with no effort or heart.
We're woeful out wide.
Stewart is fat & slow
GMS is a nonce.
Wright - young lad who seems hot & cold but I'd give him a few games.

Frank Ross and Danny Harvie are better options than GMS and Considine, but neither will see the light of day under McInnes. I'd banish the latter two the the U20s after their performances tonight.

Illogical for McInnes to sign GMS after Robson and Flood bullied him all the over the place back in the day. A leapard, spots etc etc

[mondo_notion]

post #1 on this thread and I was saying I hoped GMS started tonight as I saw an improvement against Killie where he was getting past his man down the flank and eventually getting some decent crosses in. Tonight has fairly blown that out of the water, he was f*ckin awful, embarrassing to watch. Makes his whole transfer situation all the worse, does anyone know what the agreement was to sign him? How much did we pay? Was there underlying issues that no one was told about? The whole thing just stinks.

Players out a whole 5 minutes early for second half. They ended up playing pass the ball until kick off time to keep warm, turns out Derek had forgot he wanted to make a substitution so swapped Arnie for Reynolds 5 minutes later. Weird.

His substitution policy has baffled me even from a few years back against motherwell at pittodrie on the last day of the season when all we needed to do was run down the clock and he seemingly forgot to do the whole 'subs to waste time' thing and they scored an equaliser by barging the f*ck out of langfield in the last minute.

[Feck_the_Huns]

Maybe 4th is optimistic.
We have been dross all season.
I don't think we'll win a game in the next 5.
F**k knows where we'll be then,

Even players we could usually rely on (Logan & Shinnie) are playing sh1te.

Add in plodders who are not good enough like Considine, Reynolds, Ball etc, then it's going to be a long season.

How much is it the managers fault and his sh1te team selections & formations, how much is it the players?

Maybe 70% McInnes as he's signed them.
Don't suppose he can legislate for big Joe throwing 3 in.


Tonight's performance and result was ENTIRELY predictable. Before I saw the line up, I THOUGHT we'd lose, given Well's form. Once I saw the line up, I KNEW we'd lose.

[Feck_the_Huns]

Makes his whole transfer situation all the worse, does anyone know what the agreement was to sign him? How much did we pay? Was there underlying issues that no one was told about? The whole thing just stinks.



Not getting you here, what are you saying?

Think AFC offered £600K for Christie against Hayes, and £150K for GMS, but Sellic said no. In hindsight, we should have offered Hayes as a straight swap for Christie, he's that good.

GMS was just a stupid, almost panic signing

[RedStarTorphins]

Frank Ross and Danny Harvie are better options than GMS and Considine, but neither will see the light of day under McInnes. I'd banish the latter two the the U20s after their performances tonight.

Illogical for McInnes to sign GMS after Robson and Flood bullied him all the over the place back in the day. A leapard, spots etc etc

Turns out the signings made in the summer aren't actually that good after all?
The nonsensical myth we're stronger than last year is utter sh1te.

Arnason - he needs a run in team now - Reynolds can GTF
Ball - a panic buy and baffling. Wasn't a stand out for SEVCO in Championship
Tansey - jury out but maybe carrying an injury
Stewart - pish. Slow & lazy - to think folk slagged off McGinn for being lazy.
GMS - heart of a pea. Such a downgrade on Hayes. Waste of £150k & a wage
May - will get goals if gets chances but we create very little.

When Harvie is fit maybe try him instead of Considine. He was embarrassingly bad tonight.
Twice he kicked the ball clean out within 10 minutes when he'd no one near him. Slow, cumbersome. Needs replaced.

[RedStarTorphins]

Tonight's performance and result was ENTIRELY predictable. Before I saw the line up, I THOUGHT we'd lose, given Well's form. Once I saw the line up, I KNEW we'd lose.

I agree.
And expect same on Sunday.
We're a soft, spineless lot this year.
Even Shinnie looks sh1t this season so far, like he's listless.

[mondo_notion]

Not getting you here, what are you saying?

Think AFC offered £600K for Christie against Hayes, and £150K for GMS, but Sellic said no. In hindsight, we should have offered Hayes as a straight swap for Christie, he's that good.

GMS was just a stupid, almost panic signing

I seem to remember that it was touch and go whether we were going to get him and in the end we did but for 'an undisclosed' amount. I don't really know what I'm saying and to be fair I have hit the JD a bit hard since the 3rd goal went in but can't help but think that the celtic board were laughing their heads off when GMS put pen to AFC personalised paper.

[RedStarTorphins]

Didn't realise their midfielder Campbell was only 19.
TBH when I saw their line-up only recognised 2 names.

Christie aside, just saw no fight again tonight. That's even more disappointing than the manager over-thinking it.
Yes he's hampering them again right now but you'd think personal pride/professionalism would override that.

Sad thing is, there's a few Motherwell players that would get in our team.
Cadden.
Moult
The big defender (can't remember his name).
We've regressed hugely this season.

[mondo_notion]

GMS - heart of a pea.

Cheers min that has cheered me up a bit XD

[RedStarTorphins]

Cheers min that has cheered me up a bit XD

Wish to f**k I could cheer up.
I fear a long old season is ahead of us.
Where's the next win coming from?

[TheRealSLYFOX]

A top manager looks at his first 11 and identifies weak positions to improve. Not DM. I can't recall one first team player he has moved on or let go. Considine & Reynolds given new contracts, why? Are they seriously the best we can get?
Why sign Maynard & Ball? If we don't have any U20s better than them then just close the youth Academy as it's failing.
Taylor for all his faults was clearly first choice centre half last season. Now we have the choice of last years No3, a 35yo that DM doesn't rate or a last minute panic signing Hun hopeless chunt. Magic..

[Feck_the_Huns]

I agree.
And expect same on Sunday.
We're a soft, spineless lot this year.
Even Shinnie looks sh1t this season so far, like he's listless.


Shinnie doesn't have the same engine so far this season. Too often tonight, he had no drive to get the ball wide and drive down the wing, so he looked infield and played a square pass. We all know about his debilitating illness that he fights on a daily basis, maybe he has current issues with that at present?

Logan has been ding since day 1 this season. Rooney is embarrasing to watch at the moment, as is Considine. A lot of players just heading over the hill now, despite the big changearound in the summer.

All is not lost this season, of course not, but to be honest, there was always going to be a season under McInnes where I thought we'd go backwards. Team was growing old together. But if it meant taking one step back to go two forward, then I'd take that, if he played Harvie (injured, granted, but would he play him anyway?) and maybe Ross

Maybe, for the next half dozen games or so, we need to concentrate on being "hard to beat". Get a settled back 4 (nae 3, or 5) and two in front. Dissappointing that Tansey will be out during October but maybe Ball and Shinnie need to assume that role. And take it from there. And re-instill that spirit back into the side

[RedStarTorphins]

Shinnie doesn't have the same engine so far this season. Too often tonight, he had no drive to get the ball wide and drive down the wing, so he looked infield and played a square pass. We all know about his debilitating illness that he fights on a daily basis, maybe he has current issues with that at present?

Logan has been ding since day 1 this season. Rooney is embarrasing to watch at the moment, as is Considine. A lot of players just heading over the hill now, despite the big changearound in the summer.

All is not lost this season, of course not, but to be honest, there was always going to be a season under McInnes where I thought we'd go backwards. Team was growing old together. But if it meant taking one step back to go two forward, then I'd take that, if he played Harvie (injured, granted, but would he play him anyway?) and maybe Ross

Maybe, for the next half dozen games or so, we need to concentrate on being "hard to beat". Get a settled back 4 (nae 3, or 5) and two in front. Dissappointing that Tansey will be out during October but maybe Ball and Shinnie need to assume that role. And take it from there. And re-instill that spirit back into the side

Aye, we don't know if there is an issue with Shinnie & his illness.
Agree with most of post.
Not sure about Ball though.
Wasn't exactly a stand out with SEVCO at Championship level as I recall.
If Tansey is out maybe we're forced to?
The whole team looks unbalanced & disjointed.
All component parts look weak.
Sh1te central defence
Left back
Midfield soft as baby's first sh1te
Weak out wide.
We're creating very little.

Maybe the Tombola will fall favourably on Sunday.

Christ, even a blind squirrel finds nuts every now & again.

[The_Moog]

While we have no divine right to win any game, that utterly spineless shambles is completely unacceptable from any Aberdeen team.

I'm no Nostradamus, but I was pretty sure we'd lose tonight given how we've been playing. I didn't expect it to be as bad as that though.

Passmarks to Christie who put in a shift but the rest can GTF. They should have their wages docked for that. Even Lewis was a mare and you know we're f'ucked if that happens.

Everyone knew that would be a battle and Motherwell would come after us - so why start with an utter blouse like GMS when your going to need boys who can fight in the trenches and match up? We were a man down afore we even kicked off.

I thought we were past losing games to teams who simply wanted it more - but that was as bad as any capitulation I've seen in the last 20 years.

To be fair Motherwell were excellent and Moult ripped us a new ar5ehole. Sadly I think he'll end up elsewhere now but I'd love us to sign him as he was different class tonight.

Stop f'ucking about Del and go back to the tried and trusted formation that's worked the last few years. You also now know for definite that the likes of Maynard and GMS are not good enough so forget them and get a settled team out there week in week out.

Fu'ckin shambles that tonight - it better not happen again......

[Sidney77]

Ball is being written off even though he has played less than 180 mins, and that alongside a chopped and changed defence?
GMS will only improve if he gets a run in the team. Being sub, or coming off after 20 mins won't do it. Yes, he tripped over his own feet tonight, but give him more than 20+ mins. Considine's passing and positioning suggested he was dealing with a football for the first time, but he played the 90 and will be back Sunday.
in terms of Lewis if I was him I'd be asking how Well players can get overhead flicks and free headers in our box. Yes, he could have done better but far from solely culpable.
We need a settled line-up for a period of games, that's the issue.

This isn't a "be positive" post incidentally, just a perspective one. We were utterly manure tonight.

[TartanIvor]

I only had to get back to Edinburgh but my thoughts are with those 2 coaches going back to Peterhead

[ragnarok]

Maybe 4th is optimistic.
We have been dross all season.
I don't think we'll win a game in the next 5.
F**k knows where we'll be then,

Let's not get carried away. I agree there are some causes for concern but we've revamped the team over the summer losing Hayes and McGinn in the process - it's going to take a bit of time for the team to gel. Obviously the manager's chopping and changing isn't helping things.

We could well be in for a bumpy run of form but I'm fairly confident we'll ride it out as we did a few seasons ago.

[KIWIRED]

Simply gutless tonight. Words fail me.
Apart from Ryan Christie ... we where utter utter dross.

When Big Joe screws up you know its all over and Joe Lewis is our best player

No communication between the players. no inspiration . Big Andy C and Mark Reynolds consistently poor both need a long period on the bench .

We are not going to win every game, but desperately need a result on Sunday.

****s sake ..... Just do it

[ragnarok]

McInnes just needs to go back to the drawing board, figure out his best XI and stick with that for a run of games.

We've been here before:

Hamilton 3 Aberdeen 0 October 2014
Aberdeen 1 St Johnstone 5 October 2015 (after horrendous performances against Hibs and ICT)

"Worst days since McGhee" - folk have a memory like a sieve. There have been plenty of horrendous performances under McInnes.

Maybe the wheels are coming off and we'll go into freefall. Or maybe we'll go through an indifferent run of form and come out the other end. I'll wait a few more games before I buy a new pair of incontinence pants.

[Pacman1903]

Considine should never play left back at AFC again.



The penny should have dropped with the man who picks him along f@cking time ago

[blowupsheep]

seen that result and performance coming from a mile away, previous couple of games we have been a shambles, but luckily at the time so were Killie and at least Lewis turned up for the farts game.
Really difficult to see where our next win is going to come from that is really three games on the bounce we have been total sh!te and even going back to the scrappy 2-1 win against Dundee if we are honest we were lucky there as well, lucky that dundee were a poorer quality of sh!te than we were. Don't know what to say about the entertaining (for a neutral) game at partick. We should not be conceding 3 goals in a game but thats twice now in as many weeks.
Going to be a long bleak winter and even longer bleak season with what we are looking at these days

Cmon to fk Aberdeen sort it out

[ragnarok]

Last season we were pretty indifferent up until the h*ns game and folk were saying that McInnes was past his shelf life and that we were going to struggle. The h*ns played us off the park at Pittodrie but Maddison scored a wonder goal and we ended up winning the next two games 4-0.

McInnes just needs to sort things out, stick with a settled team. He has always relied on consistency in team selection and that's what we need to get back to. It might mean that some players have to sit out and win their place in the team. Bounce back against Well and the result and patchy spell will be soon forgotten.

[Aldo1983]

McInnes just needs to go back to the drawing board, figure out his best XI and stick with that for a run of games.

We've been here before:

Hamilton 3 Aberdeen 0 October 2014
Aberdeen 1 St Johnstone 5 October 2015 (after horrendous performances against Hibs and ICT)

"Worst days since McGhee" - folk have a memory like a sieve. There have been plenty of horrendous performances under McInnes.

Maybe the wheels are coming off and we'll go into freefall. Or maybe we'll go through an indifferent run of form and come out the other end. I'll wait a few more games before I buy a new pair of incontinence pants.

Good post. The 0-3 v the Huns and some of the cup games as well.

I'd have hoped that signing the different players would give us more options but unfortunately it's highlighted how tactically inept DM is.

He started to improve the sub situation but he's still making the same mistakes he did in his first season.

We needed a full reboot perhaps. Scottish cup win and it'll all be worth it.

[RedStarTorphins]

Let's not get carried away. I agree there are some causes for concern but we've revamped the team over the summer losing Hayes and McGinn in the process - it's going to take a bit of time for the team to gel. Obviously the manager's chopping and changing isn't helping things.

We could well be in for a bumpy run of form but I'm fairly confident we'll ride it out as we did a few seasons ago.

The "gel" excuse won't wash now.
12 games we've played now plus pre season will make it 16?
As DM himself said after Killie game, that excuse is thin now.

[ragnarok]

The "gel" excuse won't wash now.
12 games we've played now plus pre season will make it 16?
As DM himself said after Killie game, that excuse is thin now.

Of course McInnes won't be giving his players any excuses. But it can take a lot longer than a quarter of a season for a new team to click.

[Mason89]

Sunday will be interesting. I can't imagine Motherwell will do much different, so it'll be down to McInnes to get a team on the park that won't get pumped.

[rico94]

The "gel" excuse won't wash now.
12 games we've played now plus pre season will make it 16?
As DM himself said after Killie game, that excuse is thin now.

I dont think the team has had time to gel because he keeps chopping and changing it,I think its starting to effect the likes of Lewis and Shinnie having different players/formations in every game.

He needs to pick the same team and formation and stick to it, his 4231 formation seems to be the only one that works for him. I think his ego has rocketed since the summer with Milne begging him to stay and giving him the funds to strengthen the squad,he needs to get his head out of his own erse and go with his best line up and formation.

Imo it should be




Lewis
Logan AOC Arnason Considine
Mclean Shinnie
Wright Christie GMS
May

[thebeachend]

http://afc.co.uk/news/10135#.WcTM-9MjHq0

aggression and intent - will be mentioned plenty in he coming months I expect

[InversneckieDob]

I think if he's going 4-2-3-1 it's Christie or McLean, I don't think that formation works with both of them.

[Mason89]

'A lot of their game is very simplistic but it got the job done.'

Imagine Pedro said that about our side. What a patronising @rsehole

[thebeachend]

'A lot of their game is very simplistic but it got the job done.'

Imagine Pedro said that about our side. What a patronising @rsehole
comes across as a smart arse...agree with Rico, he appears empowered since summer.

[Aldo1983]

'A lot of their game is very simplistic but it got the job done.'

Imagine Pedro said that about our side. What a patronising @rsehole

It's true though. Both points.

[RED_JOHN]

I know I harp on but WTF has happened to youth-development?

Our younger players are not trusted by our esteemed manager for pressure matches. Scotty Wright SHOULD be playing and will only get better when given a solid run in the team. What happened to Frank ROSS?
I honestly wouldn't be playing Joe Lewis on Sunday as no one should be safe from getting dropped after such a terrible performance ...and he was the biggest culprit. Danny Rogers must be thinking if I can't get a chance in the 1st team after that performance by Lewis then when do you get the chance. Rogers and Wright would be the first names on my team sheet on Sunday. Lewis was good against Hearts but certainly anything but against Ross County, Partick Thistle and Motherwell!

[Hairdrier]

The club has no ambition to develop grass roots players , instead filling the team with has-beens and dross from the English lower leagues. I suppose they have to keep their head above the water.

[stansmith]

I honestly wouldn't be playing Joe Lewis on Sunday as no one should be safe from getting dropped after such a terrible performance ...and he was the biggest culprit. Danny Rogers must be thinking if I can't get a chance in the 1st team after that performance by Lewis then when do you get the chance. Rogers and Wright would be the first names on my team sheet on Sunday. Lewis was good against Hearts but certainly anything but against Ross County, Partick Thistle and Motherwell!

Crikey

[RED_JOHN]

Crikey


That will also be your response when your eyes set upon the shiny new Kingsford Stadium. :P

[stansmith]

That will also be your response when your eyes set upon the shiny new Kingsford Stadium. :P

Kingsford and back to crazy keeper days. I will implode.

[BorneoRed]

Our younger players are not trusted by our esteemed manager for pressure matches. Scotty Wright SHOULD be playing and will only get better when given a solid run in the team. What happened to Frank ROSS?
I honestly wouldn't be playing Joe Lewis on Sunday as no one should be safe from getting dropped after such a terrible performance ...and he was the biggest culprit. Danny Rogers must be thinking if I can't get a chance in the 1st team after that performance by Lewis then when do you get the chance. Rogers and Wright would be the first names on my team sheet on Sunday. Lewis was good against Hearts but certainly anything but against Ross County, Partick Thistle and Motherwell!

That is why he is at Aberdeen and not in the EPL.