Villa vs Forest

[bongosdad]

Probable team

Johnstone
Elmo Chester Terry Taylor
Snodgrass Whelan Hourihane Adomah
Kodjia Davis

[samhubball]

Confirmed lineup Mr Bongo
👍👍👍👍

[essexred52]

Lansbury suspended?

[VillaRosie]

Lansbury suspended?


Not suspended red card was overturned.

Allegedly he has a knee injury.

[stateside]

Yeah, lucky for you he's injured. He would have tore you up!

If you were his hamstring.

[bongosdad]

Very pleasing win! We look so much better with Adomah and Kodjia.

[stateside]

A win is a win. 36% possession is not impressive

[mondaze]

sorry to be a bah humbug, but we won despite bruce not because of him... whelan was shot at 60 mins, as was snodgrass, davis was the only ball winner up top, so why, barring injury take him off? whelan's mistake gifts them a goal... he should have been off the field by then, snodgrass was out of it by half-time. sorry brucie but you ain't doing your job. 6 goals conceded between 45 - 60 min mark, when the team should be buzzing from his instructions and his tactical changes. bruce's only tactic is get a goal up and park the bus... that's good enough for blues or hull but not for the villa surely?

[freer]

sorry to be a bah humbug, but we won despite bruce not because of him... whelan was shot at 60 mins, as was snodgrass, davis was the only ball winner up top, so why, barring injury take him off? whelan's mistake gifts them a goal... he should have been off the field by then, snodgrass was out of it by half-time. sorry brucie but you ain't doing your job. 6 goals conceded between 45 - 60 min mark, when the team should be buzzing from his instructions and his tactical changes. bruce's only tactic is get a goal up and park the bus... that's good enough for blues or hull but not for the villa surely?


A wins a win Monaze

But to me it merely papers over many of our weaknesses, we surrender possession too easily possession Shots etc. represent clearly which side dominated the game & it wasn't A V F C

Its all 100 miles an hour stuff no Villa player seems capable of imposing themselves on a game & in doing so controlling the game

Forrest can consider themselves VERY unfortunate, had this been a boxing match the ref would have stopped it awarding Nottingham Forrest a T K O

The good news is Agonawol http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/facepalm-gesture-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/) Is available for our next match

[freer]

Very pleasing win! We look so much better with Adomah and Kodjia.

May I suggest Bongo that you get the horizontal hold button seen to on your T V Bongo !

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yes/big-thumbs-up-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)

[freer]

A win is a win. 36% possession is not impressive

http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/2117/animated-applause-smiley-image-0003.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-applause-smileys-and-smilies-2117.htm)

[mondaze]

i'm not saying a win isn't welcome just that bruce is worrying in his lack of nous

[yubbywelch]

How about Jedinak?

[stateside]

How about Jedinak? Injured again Yub. Jedinak with his leg amputated is still better than Whelan imo.

[bongosdad]

Amazing amount of negative views after our 2nd wins on the bounce. Views created by ego and not fact,

[freer]

Amazing amount of negative views after our 2nd wins on the bounce. Views created by ego and not fact,

Being our prominent luminary on Villa & astute student on Mr Bruce's (bewildering) strategies

Care to explain w/t/f were the positives ?

Did your myopia prevent you from seeing Forrest played us off the park for the whole of the second half ??

Once again we just scraped home -contrary to your feelings back in La-la land, the relief around Villa Park was palpable as the referee blew his whistle for full time

Apart from Jimmy Danger’s performance & as mentioned earlier “a win is a win”

The only real positive http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/1309/animated-laughing-image-0034.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-laughing-1309.htm)
NO cheffing Gabby !

[Exiledvillan]

I do not believe that Forest ‘played us off the park’. Stats can be misleading, and can support any agenda. The possession stats show them with 64%, most of which we conceded to them as they were in their own half, stroking the ball across the back four. Do teams get extra points at the end of the season for possession stats? Can teams win matches stroking the ball across their back 4?
They had two 10 min productive spells at the beginning of each half and scored once. We had 3 or 4 spells and scored twice, with a rusty returning CF alongside a 19 year old novice CF.
Our keeper did what he gets paid to do and saved a free kick, theirs didn’t.
The main ‘stat’ and the only one that counts in football reads that we scored more and WON!!
So on to positives?
3 more pts
Another 80mins under Kodjia’s belt
Hourihane finally finding his feet
Settled starting X1
Momentum
Overall positivity around the club, training ground and 1st team (and some fans) growing
I really looked forward to a Villa match for the first time in YEARS!!!!
I was still confident of winning after they equalised
I’m happy that we won
I celebrated the goals and the final whistle (instead of the horrible ‘PHEW’)
I can see improvement, not the finished article but improvement.
There’s too much searching for negativity going on, we’ve had reason to sulk and criticise for the last ten years. We achieved the object of a football match, we scored more than the opposition, we won!
FCK the statman, ONWARDS & UPWARDS

[freer]

Yes Exiled its a much needed improvement

http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/2117/animated-applause-smiley-image-0004.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-applause-smileys-and-smilies-2117.htm)

[bongosdad]

Spot on Exciled.

[mondaze]

Amazing amount of negative views after our 2nd wins on the bounce. Views created by ego and not fact,

My views are not based on ego but purely on fact! bruce took off davis, the only focal point for the long punts forward and put on the spurs kid... then we started punting it forward again which meant forest just kept regaining the ball. i could see whelan and snodgrass were shot by 60 mins... that is not ego just observation, bruce is paid to notice such things... this is what worries me.

[bongosdad]

I was referring to freer regarding the ego. His criticism of Bruse this week was OTT and rediculous.

[TrianonDave]

I think Bruce has handled the media and the fans very well, hes done well to shut me up! we have the top 2 in our sights and hoepefully we can reach top 6 by this time next week. We done Mr Bruce!

[freer]

Bongo, It might help if you could differentiate gumption from ego http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/650/animated-cheeky-smiley-image-0007.gif (http://www.animatedimages.org/cat-cheeky-smileys-and-smilies-650.htm)

[bongosdad]

Anything positive to say whilest your there. Anyone would think we lost.

[westcountryvillain]

We were incredibly fortunate to win this game, that deflection off SJ's heel goes in and we're well & truly on the backfoot - Murphy allowed an unchallenged header when he's the only player in our box with 5 Villa shirts around him. Some really bad decision making from Whelan with his passing that put us under pressure, their number 6 ran the show 2nd half and no-one tracked his runs.

Feels a bit like when Bruce took over, we scraped a run of results largely due to good fortune and the opposition know his approach, making us easy to play against.

Positives - JT's cool head, Snodgrass' working his socks off, Adomah looking very confident, SJ assured in goal.

[picasso]

Conor Hourihane becomes the first #avfc central midfielder since James Milner 09/10 to score 5 or more in a season. Only 9 league games in���� .

Just spotted this on twitter. How ridiculous is that and how bad have we been?

[bongosdad]

Incredible stat Picasso.

[stateside]

I have been angry for years at the lack of goals from midfield. When you see Hogg, Bannon, Davis and Johnston all allowed to leave and have decent careers and the managers that let them go think Reo-Coker, Erik Bakke, Leonhardson (was that his name?)and Bacuna are better players.

[villamon1]

Thankyou Exciled, i too felt positive, as you said we're not the finished article but with a seemingly settled line up at last i can see them gelling more as time goes on and delivering us what we all crave - success and indeed plenty of it!!?
Admittedly there may be a sprinkling of blind optimism on my behalf but hell why not surely as a villa supporter i've earnt that at least!?

[ozfan]

Excellent post Exiled!

All the teams that get promoted and indeed make the CL have goal scoring mids. Not a surprising stat of ours but the numbers hit you in the face.

Stoked with the win. Well done Lads.

[freer]

Anything positive to say whilest your there. Anyone would think we lost.

Hey Bongo psychoanalyse these views on our match V Forrest
http://www.picgifs.com/job-graphics/job-graphics/doctor/animaatjes-dokter-05376.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/job-graphics/)

From your perspective it appears Birmingham 6 is awash with ego maniacs

It must seem ludicrous -I get the feeling their honest opinions ?

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-ace-conor-hourihane-13667273

[Exiledvillan]

We were incredibly fortunate to win this game, that deflection off SJ's heel goes in and we're well & truly on the backfoot - Murphy allowed an unchallenged header when he's the only player in our box with 5 Villa shirts around him. Some really bad decision making from Whelan with his passing that put us under pressure, their number 6 ran the show 2nd half and no-one tracked his runs.

Feels a bit like when Bruce took over, we scraped a run of results largely due to good fortune and the opposition know his approach, making us easy to play against.

Positives - JT's cool head, Snodgrass' working his socks off, Adomah looking very confident, SJ assured in goal.

Ya make your own luck and Chester put just enough pressure on Murphy for him to miss. We were always gonna be under pressure from a team desperate for an equaliser, with nothing to lose gungho attacking. Granted we looked shabby at times, but not shabby enough to concede.
Nothing fortunate about either of our goals, unlike their pinball ricochet that let Murphy in. Johnstone kept the ball out with his legs, deliberately positioned himself to block. It would’ve been ‘incredibly unfortunate’ had a second ricochet gone their way.
I think ‘incredibly fortunate’ is a bit harsh WCV, but hey, we all have our own views, and rightly so mate.

[Exiledvillan]

I have been angry for years at the lack of goals from midfield. When you see Hogg, Bannon, Davis and Johnston all allowed to leave and have decent careers and the managers that let them go think Reo-Coker, Erik Bakke, Leonhardson (was that his name?)and Bacuna are better players.

Statesie, Re Hogg, Bannan, Davis and Johnston. Davis along with Cahill should never have been aloud to leave. Hogg, Bannan and Johnson had Petrov, Barry, Milner, Downing, Delph and Young in front of them. Wee Barry Bannan had a fondness for a party or ten, judging by the photos that emerged every week, and had to be moved on. All bar Cahill are big fish in a smaller pond at the moment, but were being suffocated in our youth teams. There is however a common denominator linking all of their exits, including Cahill, and the judgement of the manager of the day, but that’s a hornets nest that I’ll resist to poke.

[stateside]

Hogg made his debut under Houllier. He had a fine debut and then the next thing we know he's gone. He had a fine career at Huddersfield. Sean Dyche this weekend said that Hogg saved his managerial career at Watford.

Villa make me shake my head. I forgot about Gardner. He was stuck behind Barry, Milner and Petrov. However, why couldn't we have done a better job convincing him that being a future player for us would be a better one The the crap teams he ended up with? Probably because he saw that Villa would rather throw millions at crap like Reo-C, Sidwell and Salifou.

[TrianonDave]

6 games unbeaten 2 on the bounce, if we can get a scruffy 1-0 at Burton then we have the worst team at VP on Saturday, could be in a very interesting position before the international break.



Reload and start again!

[Exiledvillan]

Hogg made his debut under Houllier. He had a fine debut and then the next thing we know he's gone. He had a fine career at Huddersfield. Sean Dyche this weekend said that Hogg saved his managerial career at Watford.

Villa make me shake my head. I forgot about Gardner. He was stuck behind Barry, Milner and Petrov. However, why couldn't we have done a better job convincing him that being a future player for us would be a better one The the crap teams he ended up with? Probably because he saw that Villa would rather throw millions at crap like Reo-C, Sidwell and Salifou.

My bad, sorry. Kmac gave him his debut away at Vienna in the Europa league, a week after someone did a bunk.

[stateside]

I did not know that EV

[Exiledvillan]

I did not know that EV

Yes mate, I should of known as we were in Vienna for a hastily rearranged (changed from Salzburg due to the match) 'Stag do". Was a mad rush to get tickets and a 2 hour or so train journey. Twas the second year running we had been drawn against them, knocked out both times.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/aug/19/rapid-vienna-aston-villa-europa-league-live

[Exiledvillan]

Yes mate, I should of known as we were in Vienna for a hastily rearranged (changed from Salzburg due to the match) 'Stag do". Was a mad rush to get tickets and a 2 hour or so train journey. Twas the second year running we had been drawn against them, knocked out both times.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/aug/19/rapid-vienna-aston-villa-europa-league-live

NB: Said mad rush for tickets was unsuccessful, saw the game in a bar. Bloody good night out in Vienna tho, Salzburg was sh1te.

[MissWinnie]

I do not believe that Forest ‘played us off the park’. Stats can be misleading, and can support any agenda. The possession stats show them with 64%, most of which we conceded to them as they were in their own half, stroking the ball across the back four. Do teams get extra points at the end of the season for possession stats? Can teams win matches stroking the ball across their back 4?
They had two 10 min productive spells at the beginning of each half and scored once. We had 3 or 4 spells and scored twice, with a rusty returning CF alongside a 19 year old novice CF.
Our keeper did what he gets paid to do and saved a free kick, theirs didn’t.
The main ‘stat’ and the only one that counts in football reads that we scored more and WON!!
So on to positives?
3 more pts
Another 80mins under Kodjia’s belt
Hourihane finally finding his feet
Settled starting X1
Momentum
Overall positivity around the club, training ground and 1st team (and some fans) growing
I really looked forward to a Villa match for the first time in YEARS!!!!
I was still confident of winning after they equalised
I’m happy that we won
I celebrated the goals and the final whistle (instead of the horrible ‘PHEW’)
I can see improvement, not the finished article but improvement.
There’s too much searching for negativity going on, we’ve had reason to sulk and criticise for the last ten years. We achieved the object of a football match, we scored more than the opposition, we won!
FCK the statman, ONWARDS & UPWARDS


Love this post, Exiled, especially where you say you celebrated the goals and the final whistle instead of the horrible phew! It's been a while. :)

Probably because I still have to add up on my fingers, the only stat I ever look at is the final score, and it looked most fine and dandy to me. :)

Well done Villa. Again. :star:

[westcountryvillain]

Ya make your own luck and Chester put just enough pressure on Murphy for him to miss. We were always gonna be under pressure from a team desperate for an equaliser, with nothing to lose gungho attacking. Granted we looked shabby at times, but not shabby enough to concede.
Nothing fortunate about either of our goals, unlike their pinball ricochet that let Murphy in. Johnstone kept the ball out with his legs, deliberately positioned himself to block. It would’ve been ‘incredibly unfortunate’ had a second ricochet gone their way.
I think ‘incredibly fortunate’ is a bit harsh WCV, but hey, we all have our own views, and rightly so mate.

Absolutely Exiled! Just feel that with the experience and talent in our side we need to impose ourselves more in the home games & Brucie needs to be a bit more tactical with the substitutions when players are clearly out on their feet. We drew this fixture last season and we're 4-0 up away as I write this so onwards & upwards.

UTV!