Slovenia v Scotland

[Jupiter]

Does anybody think we are going to win? I'm expecting a stupid last minute cock up that costs us the win.

[Pacman1903]

Does anybody think we are going to win? I'm expecting a stupid last minute cock up that costs us the win.

0-0

[Stoney_Scarfer]

What do Slovenia require to attain 2nd place?

[Pacman1903]

What do Slovenia require to attain 2nd place?

If Slovakia dont win and If Slovenia win it would go to head to head which is 1 win each but then to goal difference which is the same as Scotlands now. So basically Slovenia need to win and Scotland need to win. Tight as a dolphins butt

[Jupiter]

Slovenia haven't conceded a goal at home in this group yet.

[The_Verninator]

Come on Sloven.....hmmmm Scotland

Another easy win and a good thrashing to lay waste to our enemies

Or a dodgy nervy will they won't they screw up...takes your pick

[Mason89]

If it does come down to a last minute cock up, hopefully it’s delivered by Charlie Mulgrew

[Pacman1903]

If it does come down to a last minute cock up, hopefully it’s delivered by Charlie Mulgrew

And his god awful hair

[Jupiter]

Any last minute cock up will probably be Gordon flapping at a cross

[Aldo1983]

We will go hell for leather from the first minute and they'll score on the break. 3-1 them.

[sonofrgmsdad]

Regardless, for playing crap unmovitated teams full of usless haddies in the early part the group stages, plus in the euro quaqualifiers, the current management team need the boot. Even if we qualify (if that's even applicable for coming second) we'll get wiped out in the play offs. Strachan must go and take McGoo with him.

[Goalposter]

Slovenia are out=fact.

No way will slovakia not beat malta.

We need a 2 goal cushion and quickly.

None of this leaving it til after 85 minutes please.

[donsdaft]

My god but what a lot of pessimistic b'astards.

Support your team min.

4-0 Scotland

FACT

[claw84]

[QUOTE=donsdaft;38673516]My god but what a lot of pessimistic b'astards.

Support your team min.

Donsdaft is right, Scotland just have to win one game to be in the mix, this is the World cup, lets get the Scots on the same plane as England, O.K. maybe not the same plane. But give the Tartan army something to cheer.

[Acido]

Donsdaft is right, Scotland just have to win one game to be in the mix, this is the World cup, lets get the Scots on the same plane as England, O.K. maybe not the same plane. But give the Tartan army something to cheer.

Hellow Claw, we're a bit far away from our own teams on this board arent we ?. lol
I cant believe the stick we/England have taken this week from some of our own so called fans, despite winning the group and qualifying.
Some fans it seems are just way too negative and criticial when it comes to Intl footy.
Slovakia should beat Malta today so the Scotch do need to win away to Slovenia to be sure of 2nd place.

[Pacman1903]

get in

[macattack]

get in

Aye 1 nil can we hang on !

[macattack]

My god but what a lot of pessimistic b'astards.


Donsdaft is right, Scotland just have to win one game to be in the mix, this is the World cup, lets get the Scots on the same plane as England, O.K. maybe not the same plane. But give the Tartan army something to cheer.

& Too Right it well aboot time the Tartan army had something to cheer :)

[Pacman1903]

Aye 1 nil can we hang on !
Hope so. Dinna usually watch Scotland but I'm really hoping for the win here.

[Acido]

If your team make it to the play offs, would you fancy a 'derby' match against Wales or N.Ireland or Rep Ireland.
And if not, who would be a good draw for you then in the 2 legged matches ?.

[Hairdrier]

Need a second goal.

[macattack]

If your team make it to the play offs, would you fancy a 'derby' match against Wales or N.Ireland or Rep Ireland.
And if not, who would be a good draw for you then in the 2 legged matches ?.

Aye certainly would but knowing our luck we will get someone like Italy or Portugal :blue:

[Jupiter]

We should copy that stadium.

[Hairdrier]

1-1

[Pacman1903]

f@ck sake

[Jupiter]

goalie's fault again

[macattack]

Time to get Philips off he has been a passenger!

[Hairdrier]

FFS 2-1 Slovenia.

No urgency in the 2nd half.

[Jupiter]

curtains

[sonofrgmsdad]

My god but what a lot of pessimistic b'astards.

Support your team min.

4-0 Scotland

FACT

We thought we were ****e, we were right, we were right.

Can we get rid of that chunt Strachan and McGoo now please. PLEASE

[macattack]

FFS 2-1 Slovenia.

No urgency in the 2nd half.

Absolute ****e all over!

[Jussi]

we have been very poor tbf
& wouldnt beat anyone in the play off.

[Pacman1903]

Right Strachan can you please resign in the tunnel.

[sonofrgmsdad]

Time to get Philips off he has been a passenger!

Aye, who the flock is Phillips? Done the square root of flock all, along with Mac Arthur, Bannon and Fletcher. On that point do we have any central defenders in the team?

[theram1975]

What a miss from Fletcher.

Snodgrass on now. Same old guys every time.

Too scared to put McGregor on incase he does well and justifies what everyone else in the country has been saying for months.

[sonofrgmsdad]

Right Strachan can you please resign in the tunnel.

And McGoo please. PLEASE.

[donsdaft]

Shame.

Their strip was the bonniest, they deserved to win.

[donsdaft]

Who's the boy Martin?

What a wan'ker he is.

[Hairdrier]

2-2

[Pacman1903]

oooof.Can they?

[donsdaft]

The equaliser was certain.

There's got to be glory in the failure.

[dons8321]

And McGoo please. PLEASE.

Sadly you wouldn't put it past the SFA to ask McGoo to be the next manager.

[macattack]

oooof.Can they?

NO

[Pacman1903]

See that Anya throw in.

Not one person looking for it. Nothing like giving up. Unbelievable

[Pacman1903]

Again, Strachan, f@ck off, you are a failure

[Hairdrier]

Not good enough in the 2nd half.

[fairliered]

SNP conference tomorrow. If they announce a public enquiry into the SFA, they will get my vote.

[macattack]

Again, Strachan, f@ck off, you are a failure

So Im curious who replace him? Mcinnes?

[sonofrgmsdad]

Why hasn't the chunt gone yet? If the players don't want to play for Scotland why do they put on the Jersey. Even with an arrogant fluckwit as a manager surely they would want to try? Only put in any effort in the last ten minutes. Where was that effort in the first 80? The Managers instructions?

Go. Go now. Go. You're an embarrassment. You've failed twice. Your attitude that only players playing in the lower leagues in England should be picked is an affront to Scottish football. Your attitude to Scottish football is an embarrassment. Go. Go now. Go.

PLEASE.

[Pacman1903]

Did anyone expect anything else?

Drawing with Lithuania at home was a disaster at the time and is an even bigger disaster tonight

[sonofrgmsdad]

Not good enough in the 2nd half.

Not good enough in the 1st half.

Not good enough at home to Lithuania.

Not good enough away to Slovakia.

Not good enough away to England.

Not good enough at home to England.

Not good enough at home to Malta.

Not good enough from a manager who picked the wrong players and at times appears couldn't provide any motivation.

[Jupiter]

we would have been second if we had beat Lithuania at home, or hadn't conceded a stupid last minute goal against England.

[macattack]

Did anyone expect anything else?

Drawing with Lithuania at home was a disaster at the time and is an even bigger disaster tonight

Very True ****e start to campaign

[Acido]

Again, Strachan, f@ck off, you are a failure

Is that the right step to take Pac, do you all want Strachan OUT!!.
Slovakia arent a great team and they dont deserve to goto the WC. Lets see who they and everybody else play eh in these play offs.

[sonofrgmsdad]

Is that the right step to take Pac, do you all want Strachan OUT!!.
Slovakia arent a great team and they dont deserve to goto the WC. Lets see who they and everybody else play eh in these play offs.

What exactly does Slovakia's result in the play offs have to do with Strachan doing the decent thing?

[Mason89]

So Im curious who replace him? Mcinnes?

That’s a great shout

[donsdaft]

Slovakia are a decent team.

If they were a little more direct they would be a really good team.

Better than England anyway.

[nice1simmy]

Scotland are s***e that is all

[Pacman1903]

So Im curious who replace him? Mcinnes?

Do you think nobody can do better than him. Two failed campaigns. Who keeps their manager on after that.

Its a defeatist attitude. Fresh ideas and all that. Cant be worse as Scotland haven't qualified for any tournaments for 20 F@CKING YEARS. 4 years of that is Strachans fault. (I wont count his half campaign)

[rico94]

There is no way the boy McArthur is a better option than Shinnie.He is picking too much dross because they play in guffland and it's time for him to go.

I still think the sfa will appoint Moyes if Strachan goes and he will pick the same players that Strachan picks.

[Aldo1983]

What a miss from Fletcher.

Snodgrass on now. Same old guys every time.

Too scared to put McGregor on incase he does well and justifies what everyone else in the country has been saying for months.

Spot on. He's a stubborn pr!ck.

McGregor and McGinn have 4 goals between them from last week in the league but he'd rather play guys based in England.

McArthur was shocking tonight.

Fletcher has never been great.

Anya is like Josh Magenness. He works hard, runs fast and comes across as a likeable guy but ultimately he's not very good.

Martin is a cart horse. I assume he was playing out of position?

The ultimate sackable offence is having Steven Fletcher coming on or even in the squad.

He should **** off with McGhee and take everyone at the SFA with them.

It doesn't work, it's never worked so stop trying to make it work.

[sheepcrooky]

Do you think nobody can do better than him. Two failed campaigns. Who keeps their manager on after that.

Its a defeatist attitude. Fresh ideas and all that. Cant be worse as Scotland haven't qualified for any tournaments for 20 F@CKING YEARS. 4 years of that is Strachans fault. (I wont count his half campaign)
Scotland are certainly not blessed with great managers right now (is McInnes the only Scottish Manager in the top 1/2 of the SPL). Might end up being a Pressley (once he gets the dunt from MKD) or Yogi Hughes, hardly fills me with hope. Surely, surely, surely not Dingus.

[fairliered]

If I went to the interview in a Hun top, with my trouser leg rolled up, and promised not to pick any players outwith Glasgow or the guffball championship, Regan and the rest of the corrupt barstewards would probably give me the job. If I then picked Shinnie and May, would they sack me for breach of contract?

[Aldo1983]

The SFA will pick a new manager (if Strachan leaves) who is desperate to work so they can tell him what to do.

[Pacman1903]

Scotland are certainly not blessed with great managers right now (is McInnes the only Scottish Manager in the top 1/2 of the SPL). Might end up being a Pressley (once he gets the dunt from MKD) or Yogi Hughes, hardly fills me with hope. Surely, surely, surely not Dingus.

Why does he have to be Scottish

[Hairdrier]

The pink strips, and Mark McGhee in the setup.
Someone is having a laugh.

:?

[sheepcrooky]

Why does he have to be Scottish

Berti Vogts. Just saying.

[Pacman1903]

Berti Vogts. Just saying.

One manager making a c@nt of it should be the yard stick. Rubbish

[welshandproud]

Another so-called 'glorious' failure eh?

Well, you can take the word 'glorious' off it really.

Never mind, I sure you'll give us your full support when we qualify.

[macattack]

That’s a great shout

Aye but would be bad news for us! who do we get Craig Brown :D

[macattack]

One manager making a c@nt of it should be the yard stick. Rubbish

Thought you were talking aboot Craig Levein XD

[macattack]

Scotland are certainly not blessed with great managers right now (is McInnes the only Scottish Manager in the top 1/2 of the SPL). Might end up being a Pressley (once he gets the dunt from MKD) or Yogi Hughes, hardly fills me with hope. Surely, surely, surely not Dingus.

Davie Moyes :)

[rico94]

One manager making a c@nt of it should be the yard stick. Rubbish

To be fair on Berti Vogts,as shyte as he was he never gave a feck about picking old firm players or guff land players.He played guys who were playing well in the spl for non old firm teams,I would give it to another foreign coach just because it didn't work for Vogts is irrelevant.It hasn't worked for numerous Scottish managers either.

[man-erg]

One manager making a c@nt of it should be the yard stick. Rubbish

Vogts got us to a playoff.

I'm not keen on having a foreign manager but I have a much bigger problem with Strachan than I have ever had with any other manager.

[Pacman1903]

Vogts got us to a playoff.

I'm not keen on having a foreign manager but I have a much bigger problem with Strachan than I have ever had with any other manager.

Aye I know he did and its forgotten that he was the closest we came to getting anywhere since Craig Brown. But he was never really liked and remembered for his sacked campaign where he lost to Moldova

[mondo_notion]

I've no problem with Strachan picking players from English lower leagues or where ever. I have a problem with him picking players from the English lower leagues who aren't getting regular game time for their domestic clubs.

[ohno]

To be fair on Berti Vogts,as shyte as he was he never gave a feck about picking old firm players or guff land players.He played guys who were playing well in the spl for non old firm teams,I would give it to another foreign coach just because it didn't work for Vogts is irrelevant.It hasn't worked for numerous Scottish managers either.

He had Tommy Burns as his assistant so Tim players not even getting a game for the first team were picked.

[rustlinsweetiepapers]

Berti Vogts. Just saying.

Yup, Berti, who I believe is now the most successful Scotland manager in the last 20 years by virtue of the fact that he got us to the playoffs and a first leg lead.

[Acido]

Another so-called 'glorious' failure eh?
Well, you can take the word 'glorious' off it really. Never mind, I sure you'll give us your full support when we qualify.

Ohh a so called Welshie on here eh, because they are winning games all of a sudden. Are you proper Welsh by the way, or are you a total joke Welsh fan (like the Rep Oirland team) because of your great grand-parents ?.

[rico94]

He had Tommy Burns as his assistant so Tim players not even getting a game for the first team were picked.

Who?

He picked Anderson and McNaughton for us,McFadden and Pearson At Motherwell,Thompson at Dundee Utd,Pressley,Webster and Gordon at Hearts,Wilkie at Dundee.

Not all great players but I thought that was one of the main dislikes of recent managers,picking guys from England who either don't get a game for their club or aren't even Scottish.

[vasilyrats86]

Aye I know he did and its forgotten that he was the closest we came to getting anywhere since Craig Brown. But he was never really liked and remembered for his sacked campaign where he lost to Moldova

we didnae lose tae Moldavia (as the Febs call them) Steven Thomson scored the leveller but Bertit did get the dicht

Strachan should be horsed two failures is one too many, end of story ,crap choice of players an all.

All the crap about nobody better oot there is mince.

and dinnae get me started on the happy clappy Tartan Army

the day they trot out to 5000 at Hampdung and spot the real fans have woken up will be the start of the recovery

Doh A Deer playing in pink ach getttttttaeeeefuchkkkkkk

and staying in the groond tae applaud failure ,nae flay the fckers would the Italians or Germans dae that

[Jormungand]

So, apparently, Strachan actually said that it's a problem with genetics, because we're the smallest team around - apart from Spain.

Aye, good argument, you utter melt.

[xtrmntr75]

Well outplayed tonight. Slovenia are a class act. We didn't make the required changes after Thursday.

I can kinda get where all the 'what's the point supporting Scotland' stuff comes from when you see a performance like tonight's. We know that when it comes to a new manager, it'll be an SFA yes man or one of the old guard. It was limp tonight. Strachan just got too many decisions wrong tonight and it was a microcosm of his tenure. No where near dynamic enough when it came to the crunch. Gutted but not surprised.

[Pacman1903]

So, apparently, Strachan actually said that it's a problem with genetics, because we're the smallest team around - apart from Spain.

Aye, good argument, you utter melt.

Melt doesnt come close to covering it.

[Feck_the_Huns]

Who really gives a fcuk?

A fcuk stopped being given when when Craigy Brown fcuked up v Belgium in 2001

I'll cut him some slack cos his qualificaton record is excellent but since then, and the subsequent managers? Horse sh1t.

Easter Rd on saturday, and back to real fitba

[Pacman1903]

So, apparently, Strachan actually said that it's a problem with genetics, because we're the smallest team around - apart from Spain.

Aye, good argument, you utter melt.

Melt doesnt come close to covering it.

[Hairdrier]

It has nothing to do with genes, Strachan is a shortar$e and it didn't hinder him as a player.

Scotland came up short because of his lack of ideas and the general lack of investment in the game at grass roots level. The SFA will undoubtedly look at recent results as a success and keep the wee $hite on as manager.

[Pacman1903]

It has nothing to do with genes, Strachan is a shortar$e and it didn't hinder him as a player.

Scotland came up short because of his lack of ideas and the general lack of investment in the game at grass roots level. The SFA will undoubtedly look at recent results as a success and keep the wee $hite on as manager.

Thats what i think. Will Youngs boyfriend even said after the game he deaervea to stay as he sees what Strachans done. Eh? Hes failed again

[InversneckieDob]

Thats what i think. Will Youngs boyfriend even said after the game he deaervea to stay as he sees what Strachans done.

Did he say he was evergreen?

[TheRealSLYFOX]

IF the SFA had any balls they make Brendan Rodgers their number one target. But we all know why they won't.

[andoplzcumbak]

IF the SFA had any balls they make Brendan Rodgers their number one target. But we all know why they won't.

There's no way the sfa would go after a member clubs manager. That's ridiculous!

[TheRealSLYFOX]

There's no way the sfa would go after a member clubs manager. That's ridiculous!
They poached Levein from Utd.

[DonUnder]

oooof.Can they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfnhmuZ27eQ

[blowupsheep]

every cloud has a silver lining, look on the bright side of things, At least no Dons players can carry any blame for that inept performance.
COYR, Stand Free!!!
Onwards and Upwards

[donsdaft]

I blame McLean

[TubbyOgston52]

What is the link between every squad since we last qualified in 1996 and the latest for last night?

You got it the over reliance in picking players from the so called big two and even when they leave Glasgow they still get selected as the best we have.

If McIness is next I hope he bucks the trends and we might have a chance as that team last night had players that can't even get a game for their own team!

[Stupie82]

One of the biggest issues i have is picking cuunts who played for England as an under 21 and then all of sudden can play for Scotland at senior level i.e Matt Phillips, Chris Martin. Also picking players only because they play for a so called big team, regardless of game time or recent performances. Strachan can get ti f*ck.

[donsdaft]

Chris Martin is English is he?

I should have guessed, cheating diving whining b'astard.

He must have impressed the Hun last night.

[Aldo1983]

What is the link between every squad since we last qualified in 1996 and the latest for last night?

You got it the over reliance in picking players from the so called big two and even when they leave Glasgow they still get selected as the best we have.

If McIness is next I hope he bucks the trends and we might have a chance as that team last night had players that can't even get a game for their own team!

I don't think there is an over reliance with Celtic and rangers. Not now anyway. There was a time when you just had to get a couple of games for them and you were automatically picked. Now the players at Celtic getting picked are there on merit to be fair. Forrest isn't the best but then again he didn't play yesterday. McGregor would have been better than McArthur but due to Strachan being stubborn, he also didn't get a game.

As Stupie says, playing guys like Chris Martin is one of the issues.

If McInnes got the job then I can't see things getting better. He would just play McLean and have Mulgrew as a striker for the last 10mins.

[Mason89]

The job is perfect for Willie Miller.

[donsdaft]

Anyone who throws out that pink strip will be an improvement.

They were talking about Jim Duffy on the radio last night.

Sounds a joke but maybe we should give up trying to match teams technically for the next 10 years and just have a go at them.

Meanwhile teaching our youngsters to play proper football

[Pacman1903]

Meanwhile teaching our youngsters to play proper football

Its nae worth. Didnt you hear we are too small. We better just give up

[rico94]

If McInnes got the job then I can't see things getting better. He would just play McLean and have Mulgrew as a striker for the last 10mins.

It would be interesting to see if he would pick guys like Shinnie and McLean if he got the job,considering he has had a few digs at Strachan for not picking our players. I would say he is more likely to forgot about that and pick the same players Strachan has who have failed to qualify campaign after campaign.

[Mason89]

They all learn their management at the same place from the same folk. That’s why there’s no real difference between any of them & Craig Brown

[donsdaft]

Its nae worth. Didnt you hear we are too small. We better just give up





You'll have to forgive me.
I'm getting on a bit and forgot.

[DonUnder]

They all learn their management at the same place from the same folk. That’s why there’s no real difference between any of them & Craig Brown

I can't imagine Jock Stein or Fergie putting up with "That's not how we do things at Largs" - time for a foreigner?

[Mason89]

I can't imagine Jock Stein or Fergie putting up with "That's not how we do things at Largs" - time for a foreigner?

For all they polish their helmets about it, the coaching at Largs is total b*llocks. It has to be.

[donsdaft]

We've always been a nation of wimps.

Soft little b'uggers like Billy Bremner.

At 1.65m or more correctly for the time 5' 5" he needn't have bothered trying to play with the big boys.

[DonUnder]

Need some big hispanics like yon Messi or Iniesta

[Aldo1983]

The job is perfect for Willie Miller.

When the height thing got mentioned by an English journalist on talk sport this morning, Alan Brazil quickly pointed out that Willie Miller wasn't tall and didn't need to be.

[The_Verninator]

What's at fault ?

Sh*t Players - Nope

Sh*t Tactics - Nope

Sh*t Management - Nope

Sh*t Football System rotten to the core top to bottom and has been for many years - Nope

Genetics - Yes because we have no control over that and it's nothing to do with us - so not our fault !!

Brilliant thinking

B)

[Donanddusted]

... maybe we should give up trying to match teams technically for the next 10 years and just have a go at them.

Meanwhile teaching our youngsters to play proper football

Ah! You mean the Motherwell/St Johnstone/Hearts tactics but forgetting the training youngster thing?

[donsdaft]

That's it

It couldn't be any less successful could it?

[RED_JOHN]

"Genetics" is the excuse from the lastest failure of a manager of our national team. Geriatric would have been a more appropriate excuse as our excuse of a football association and recent coaches cannot move forward with the times and not build a young team for the future. It worked for a few nations but the old dinosaurs that have anything to do with our national team stick consistently with the tried, boring, many times tested and failed approach that we keep adopting.
Build for the next World Cup now...only players who play for their clubs regularly should be selected...no old pals act .
Let's do something different and instead of appeasing the Largs mafia let's appoint a manager who is forward thinking and is not full of crap.
It will probably mean a foreign coach but that can't be bad as I genuinely think we are short (no pun intended) of quality with Scottish managers.

[Don_Corleone]

Time for Strachan and McGhee to leave.

Strachan's comments about genetics have made us a laughing stock once again. If he really felt we needed taller players why did he not just pick taller players? Total idiot.

I love my country and I'd love to be watching a Scotland team I can get excited and passionate about, even if they're not world-beaters. This current bunch are so uninspiring - players like Whittaker, Berra, Hanley, Mulgrew, Bannon, McArthur, Philips, Martin, Fletcher and all the other dross from the English Championship that get picked are painful. Squad needs a major overhaul and only way to get it is to change manager.

[Jupiter]

Strachan is talking out of his rear end about genetics. What does he expect anyone to do about it? Is he looking for a modern day Josef Mengele?

[Pacman1903]

Strachan is talking out of his rear end about genetics. What does he expect anyone to do about it? Is he looking for a modern day Josef Mengele?

He had a thing for dwarves

[Jupiter]

There is one thing Strachan could copy about Mengele, he could go into hiding in South America.

[donsdaft]

Another so-called 'glorious' failure eh?

Well, you can take the word 'glorious' off it really.

Never mind, I sure you'll give us your full support when we qualify.








Hemmin

Was that you on the telly, greetin?

[millerdon]

"Genetics" is the excuse from the lastest failure of a manager of our national team. Geriatric would have been a more appropriate excuse as our excuse of a football association and recent coaches cannot move forward with the times and not build a young team for the future. It worked for a few nations but the old dinosaurs that have anything to do with our national team stick consistently with the tried, boring, many times tested and failed approach that we keep adopting.
Build for the next World Cup now...only players who play for their clubs regularly should be selected...no old pals act .
Let's do something different and instead of appeasing the Largs mafia let's appoint a manager who is forward thinking and is not full of crap.
It will probably mean a foreign coach but that can't be bad as I genuinely think we are short (no pun intended) of quality with Scottish managers.

Ian Cathro fits the bill and is available last I heard 🤔

[Hairdrier]

Another so-called 'glorious' failure eh?

Well, you can take the word 'glorious' off it really.

Yes you can. Enjoy.

[Jupiter]

Slovakia are out of the playoffs, they are the 9th second place team.

[Pacman1903]

Another so-called 'glorious' failure eh?

Well, you can take the word 'glorious' off it really.

Never mind, I sure you'll give us your full support when we qualify.

GIRFUY you webbed toed b@stard

[Aldo1983]

Slovakia are out of the playoffs, they are the 9th second place team.

Bunch of Tommy Too Talls.

[xtrmntr75]

Aye same old Ireland. Much as I hate to say it, O'Neill knows how to get results at that level. They are pretty poor too. Certainly not as good as Slovakia

[donsdaft]

Bunch of Tommy Too Talls.




What's all this crap about points and goal difference?

Wouldn't it not be easier just to measure them.

[RED_JOHN]

Ian Cathro fits the bill and is available last I heard 🤔

There was nothing forward thinking about Ian Cathro. He was just a puppet for the old guard at Hearts.
We haven't the balls in this country to try something different. We are nothing on the international front and unfortunately are just there to make up the numbers .

[GASC1980]

Not sure if we are just there making up the numbers just yet but countries such as Gibraltar, Luxembourg, Malta, Andorra, San Marino et al will go ahead of us before we wake up and change anything. It has already been proven in European competition when teams from the first three countries I have mentioned have beaten our club sides.

[Mason89]

Not sure if we are just there making up the numbers just yet but countries such as Gibraltar, Luxembourg, Malta, Andorra, San Marino et al will go ahead of us before we wake up and change anything. It has already been proven in European competition when teams from the first three countries I have mentioned have beaten our club sides.

Our facilities are great & we’ve got a much bigger pool of players to pick from. It has to be the coaching.

It needs an overhaul. Then put every primary & secondary teacher that shows an interest through it for free.

[peter_ssb]

Our facilities are great & we’ve got a much bigger pool of players to pick from. It has to be the coaching.

It needs an overhaul. Then put every primary & secondary teacher that shows an interest through it for free.

Not sure I agree. We could have the best coach and facilities in Aberdeen or Dundee etc, but unless you lay in lower english leagues or have a celtic connection you wont get picked.

We need to have a manager who picks players playing every week and in form. none of this pish we normally get. Picking Highland league standard players due to the old boys connection wont ever get us anywhere.

As for facilities, and coaches how wll changing that help when the players are picked are celtic or english. Is the coachng bad in england too ?

[ObanRed]

Is the coachng bad in england too ?

Have you watched the Nigels play recently ??

[RED_JOHN]

Strachan and McGhee will surely do the decent thing and realise that they are not up to the task of taking us to any tournaments and just resign without a brown envelope payment. They are decent footballing men after all :O

[donsdaft]

Their contracts have come to an end haven't they.
No sackings or resignations required.

[Jupiter]

The new manager better not be that muppet David Moyes. Even the SFA wouldn't be that stupid, would they?

[rico94]

The new manager better not be that muppet David Moyes. Even the SFA wouldn't be that stupid, would they?

When Strachan goes it will be either Moyes,Lambert or McLeish,I would go for a foreign coach but the sfa will never appoint one now.

[dons8321]

When Strachan goes it will be either Moyes,Lambert or McLeish,I would go for a foreign coach but the sfa will never appoint one now.

Ronald de Boer's available!

[rico94]

Ronald de Boer's available!

He would still be better than the Largs mob.

[Pacman1903]

Interesting to see in the Record today a panel of 12 (3 ex players, 3 tartan army, 3 managers and 3 pundits) were 3/4 in favour of Strachan staying. Only 1 tartan army quine, Jimmy Calderwood and Derek Rae said he should piss off

[donsdaft]

Oh aye, let's ask Jimmy Calderwood.

Everybody's favourite f'uckin idiot.

[ILikeJam]

Oh aye, let's ask Jimmy Calderwood.

Everybody's favourite f'uckin idiot.


Do you disagree with him like?

[donsdaft]

A very reasonable point, in this instance, no.

[Aldo1983]

Whoever it is, let's hope it's someone that can provide positive criticism and attempt to make positive changes rather than some chunt that just puts the boot into Scottish football and our league.

[donsdaft]

I think folk are expecting a bit much.

Provided the job is vacant, the SFA will be looking for a coach to take charge of , and responsibility for, the Scotland team.
No doubt it will be made clear to him that the expectation will be qualification for the 2020 Euro finals.

That'll be it.

Apart from some guff about attending functions and representing the SFA etc. what he won't be doing is publically critisizing his employers.

He won't be responsible in any way for schools fitba or the future ability of Scottish players.

Given the precarious nature of football managers / coaches employment he will do all he can to pick the players he thinks will do the best job for him.


All we can hope for is that given two players with equal ability that he prefers the one that plays in the Scottish leagues as opposed to the lower leagues in England.
Personally I would prefer the players to actually be Scottish.



Loads and loads more work needs to be done.
But not by the national coach.


I remember Andy Roxburgh waxing lyrical about this in 1984.
It occurred to me to check how many of the team that played the other night were actually born in 1984 but I couldnae be a'rsed.

[8outoftencaat]

Lars Lagerback should get the job. Fantastic record at international level. Pretty sure he would see us as a more attractive option than Norway?!

Not particularly keen on any of the candidates that have been mentioned to replace Strachan. If it wasn't for Strachan being so stubborn and obnoxious I would have no objection to him staying on but that is what has cost us the chance of qualification and he has to pay the price for this. Think we need to go outwith the norm here.

Failing that, I would go for McLeish again but wouldn't be particularly inspired by this as he did the same as many before him when he had the job before.....screwed up tactics and performance against (supposedly) "inferior" opposition

[donsdaft]

We really need to remove the word "inferior " from our ideas about football.

On the same subject, why would anyone think the Scottish job was better than the Norwegian?

Norway is a real country, a rich country and the women are better looking.

[rico94]

Lars Lagerback should get the job. Fantastic record at international level. Pretty sure he would see us as a more attractive option than Norway?!

Not particularly keen on any of the candidates that have been mentioned to replace Strachan. If it wasn't for Strachan being so stubborn and obnoxious I would have no objection to him staying on but that is what has cost us the chance of qualification and he has to pay the price for this. Think we need to go outwith the norm here.

Failing that, I would go for McLeish again but wouldn't be particularly inspired by this as he did the same as many before him when he had the job before.....screwed up tactics and performance against (supposedly) "inferior" opposition

I would go for him as well but he is the Norway manager now so I think we missed an opportunity there.

It will be Moyes or McLeish who get it and they first thing they will say is "Im going to try to convince Scott Brown and Darren Fletcher to stay on for another campaign" and pick the likes of Bannon,McArthur,Martin and Forrest.

[Aldo1983]

I might be wrong but I'm sure Lars Lagerback was interested back when Craig Levein got the job.

[Pacman1903]

Oh aye, let's ask Jimmy Calderwood.

Everybody's favourite f'uckin idiot.

Duncan Shearer said he should stay. Hes a legend and is speaking idiotic pish

[Jupiter]

I might be wrong but I'm sure Lars Lagerback was interested back when Craig Levein got the job.

Can't remember exactly when it was, but he definitely wanted it. Another SFA cock up.

[Pacman1903]

Can't remember exactly when it was, but he definitely wanted it. Another SFA cock up.

I remember it too as i thought at the time "hes a champ manager legend"

[Aldo1983]

According to a Google search he was knocked back in 2009 and said he was interested in 2013. The SFA don't want a foreign manager because a foreign manager doesn't know their script.

[Jupiter]

Everybody at the SFA should be fired, as long as those numpties are still there, nothing will improve ever.

[andoplzcumbak]

I don't give a f*ck who the manager will be right now. It's the SFA that needs chucked in the fire! F*cking corrupt jobs for the boys w*nkers! Every one of those c*nts should resign or be fired.

[81,82,83,84]

Whoever the next manager is they will need a degree in rocket science to understand this nations league ****e and how it all works. What a yawn fest of pish teams we are in with.... I bet we still don't qualify.

[The Trading Sheep]

I don't give a f*ck who the manager will be right now. It's the SFA that needs chucked in the fire! F*cking corrupt jobs for the boys w*nkers! Every one of those c*nts should resign or be fired.

Totally agree, I won't be back till there is serious change...

[Don_Corleone]

The players we have at our disposal are at least as good as the likes of N.Ireland, Wales, Rep. Ireland, Iceland etc who have all done much better than us in recent years.

Picking players from England for no other reason that they're playing (occasionally) in England has disillusioned fans. I hope whoever comes in does away with this misconception that sitting on a bench in England makes you a better player than if you play week in week out in Scotland. The core of the team should comprise of Celtic's Scottish contingent and there are enough good on form players in Scotland plus a handful of those down south who play regularly who can fill the other slots. We need to find a way of accommodating Tierney and Roberston into the same team as they're arguably our two best players. Right back and central defence are the main problems, and centre forward if Griffiths is ever injured.

Dross like Hanley, McArthur, Fletcher, Fletcher, Philips, Martin, Morrison et al should be ditchec - they've had their chance and failed. Time for a new group of players to be given a shot.

[fatshaft]

The players we have at our disposal are at least as good as the likes of N.Ireland, Wales, Rep. Ireland, Iceland etc who have all done much better than us in recent years.

Picking players from England for no other reason that they're playing (occasionally) in England has disillusioned fans. I hope whoever comes in does away with this misconception that sitting on a bench in England makes you a better player than if you play week in week out in Scotland. The core of the team should comprise of Celtic's Scottish contingent and there are enough good on form players in Scotland plus a handful of those down south who play regularly who can fill the other slots. We need to find a way of accommodating Tierney and Roberston into the same team as they're arguably our two best players. Right back and central defence are the main problems, and centre forward if Griffiths is ever injured.

Dross like Hanley, McArthur, Fletcher, Fletcher, Philips, Martin, Morrison et al should be ditchec - they've had their chance and failed. Time for a new group of players to be given a shot.

Nothing more needs said than this.

[sancho_panza]

The players we have at our disposal are at least as good as the likes of N.Ireland, Wales, Rep. Ireland, Iceland etc who have all done much better than us in recent years.

Picking players from England for no other reason that they're playing (occasionally) in England has disillusioned fans. I hope whoever comes in does away with this misconception that sitting on a bench in England makes you a better player than if you play week in week out in Scotland. The core of the team should comprise of Celtic's Scottish contingent and there are enough good on form players in Scotland plus a handful of those down south who play regularly who can fill the other slots. We need to find a way of accommodating Tierney and Roberston into the same team as they're arguably our two best players. Right back and central defence are the main problems, and centre forward if Griffiths is ever injured.

Dross like Hanley, McArthur, Fletcher, Fletcher, Philips, Martin, Morrison et al should be ditchec - they've had their chance and failed. Time for a new group of players to be given a shot.

Players shouldn't be getting picked just because they play in England, but we shouldn't be ditching players just because they play in England either and a lot of what you've written here is suggesting we do exactly that.

Just take three examples. Darren Fletcher is probably too old to continue for much longer, but he was one of our best players in the last game and shouldn't be getting singled out as dross after that in my opinion. Martin is at worst a good option to have on the bench, which should be abundantly clear after the two wins against Slovakia/Slovenia where him coming on helped change the game. Phillips played poorly in the last two games, but is on precisely 7 caps at present and is only 26 so the idea he's "had his chance and failed" is reactionary stuff at best.

Our pool of players is limited enough as it is without arbitrarily culling a load of our better options just to satisfy some bloodlust to get rid of those who play in England.

[sheepcrooky]

Players shouldn't be getting picked just because they play in England, but we shouldn't be ditching players just because they play in England either and a lot of what you've written here is suggesting we do exactly that.

Just take three examples. Darren Fletcher is probably too old to continue for much longer, but he was one of our best players in the last game and shouldn't be getting singled out as dross after that in my opinion. Martin is at worst a good option to have on the bench, which should be abundantly clear after the two wins against Slovakia/Slovenia where him coming on helped change the game. Phillips played poorly in the last two games, but is on precisely 7 caps at present and is only 26 so the idea he's "had his chance and failed" is reactionary stuff at best.

Our pool of players is limited enough as it is without arbitrarily culling a load of our better options just to satisfy some bloodlust to get rid of those who play in England.

Agree with a lot of this, but Phillips is absolute gash and should be nowhere near our national squad. Ditto....Anya.

[blowupsheep]

The players we have at our disposal are at least as good as the likes of N.Ireland, Wales, Rep. Ireland, Iceland etc who have all done much better than us in recent years.

Picking players from England for no other reason that they're playing (occasionally) in England has disillusioned fans. I hope whoever comes in does away with this misconception that sitting on a bench in England makes you a better player than if you play week in week out in Scotland. The core of the team should comprise of Celtic's Scottish contingent and there are enough good on form players in Scotland plus a handful of those down south who play regularly who can fill the other slots. We need to find a way of accommodating Tierney and Roberston into the same team as they're arguably our two best players. Right back and central defence are the main problems, and centre forward if Griffiths is ever injured.

Dross like Hanley, McArthur, Fletcher, Fletcher, Philips, Martin, Morrison et al should be ditchec - they've had their chance and failed. Time for a new group of players to be given a shot.

Nail on the head

[andoplzcumbak]

I read in the Times today that we had the oldest average age squad in Europe or maybe the world in international football!
Not necessarily a bad thing but it does tell a story.

[kigoretrout]

I have had a problem with Strachan ever since he ballsed up the qualifying for the Euros. I loved him as a player but comes over as one odd individual. Happy that he has gone and hoping to get someone in that ditches some of the old hangers on that Strachan plays just coz he is mates with them and he thinks they're good guys.

[Don_Corleone]

Players shouldn't be getting picked just because they play in England, but we shouldn't be ditching players just because they play in England either and a lot of what you've written here is suggesting we do exactly that.

Just take three examples. Darren Fletcher is probably too old to continue for much longer, but he was one of our best players in the last game and shouldn't be getting singled out as dross after that in my opinion. Martin is at worst a good option to have on the bench, which should be abundantly clear after the two wins against Slovakia/Slovenia where him coming on helped change the game. Phillips played poorly in the last two games, but is on precisely 7 caps at present and is only 26 so the idea he's "had his chance and failed" is reactionary stuff at best.

Our pool of players is limited enough as it is without arbitrarily culling a load of our better options just to satisfy some bloodlust to get rid of those who play in England.

Martin and Philips aren't even Scottish. If they were better players they'd be holding out to get a game for England - only reason they want to play for us is that they're not good enough for England and they fancy playing international football. That's guaranteed to disillusion some fans. I'd rather see Stevie May in the Scotland squad than Chris Martin and I'd rather have Ryan Christie than Philips. Even if they're not better players they're actually Scottish and I'll buy into the national team a whole lot more than I presently do.

Also, I've nothing massively against Darren Fletcher - he's been a decent player and seems like a good guy - he's had his chance though - I can't think of many games where he's really made much of an impact for Scotland with the exception of 1 or 2 when he first broke into the team. It's time for change. Same players will give you same results.