Huns away ticket allocation

[kkong]

After a couple of high profile balls ups already this season, it looks like AFC have finally got their act together when deciding how to sell the tickets for the Huns away game on 28th November:

Ticket Details

PHASE 1: Tickets for this match will be available online only at afc.co.uk/eTickets from 5pm on Sunday 19th November for supporters with 143+ Loyalty Points.

Tickets will then be available to purchase from the Pittodrie Ticket Office from 9.30am on Monday 20th November or by calling 01224 63 1903.

PHASE 2: The Loyalty Points threshold for phase 2 will be announced on Tuesday 21st November.

Please note, supporters who qualify in phase 1 are guaranteed to get a ticket within the first 48-hour period of tickets going on sale.

[Mason89]

Not sure that killing off supporters clubs & rewarding those supporters for having the most cash, is getting their act together.

It does look like the plebs are missing out on this one again, so the club can be happy

[kkong]

Whatever your views on that, this is a definite improvement on how they conducted the sales process for the Apollon and Hibs away games.

[Mason89]

I’d disagree with that as well. It’s not really rewarding the folk that go every week. It’s guaranteeing the plebs have zero chance, instead of a sporting one.

This system & the lack of a PATG is insane. It’s encouraging people not to go

Wonder if Killie away will sell out

[Pacman1903]

I don't do many away games these days but if I did I sure as f@ck wouldn't be giving that shower any f@cking money. Rather hand over 25 quid to those junkie b@stards who "need 20p to get the bus to see my ma at the hospital ken"

[kkong]

This is just the way things are these days, it's not just football.

Businesses will prioritise their most valuable customers - the ones who spend the most money.

They should be trying not to piss off their most valuable customers in situations where demand exceeds supply.

Having said that, AFC have made a pretty good attempt to piss these people off a couple of times already this season.

Agree that PATG should be re-introduced, that cannot be hard to do and I struggle to see how it can cost more than it will take in revenue.

Also the 4 turnstiles to the South which they recently closed - presumably because they were too tight to install the new ticket readers - should be re-opened to reduce queues.

[KIWIRED]

Any know our allocation number ?

[kkong]

Any know our allocation number ?

Probably about 1,100 like the last time we were there.

[GASC1980]

Anyone heard today if there is a Phase 2 sale and if so what the loyalty points criteria is?

[mondo_notion]

Anyone heard today if there is a Phase 2 sale and if so what the loyalty points criteria is?

Haven't heard anything. Did we not sell out in phase 1?

[kkong]

120 points, on sale from 09:30 Wednesday.

About 330 tickets left currently.

[afc1903mad]

Not sure that killing off supporters clubs & rewarding those supporters for having the most cash, is getting their act together.

It does look like the plebs are missing out on this one again, so the club can be happy

A rather unique way of looking at it.
Surely rewarding those who support the club most (by attendance) is the best way.

[Mason89]

A rather unique way of looking at it.
Surely rewarding those who support the club most (by attendance) is the best way.

They weren’t missing out, they were going every week. They didn’t need rewarded

[afc1903mad]

They weren’t missing out, they were going every week. They didn’t need rewarded

Were they?
Or was the allocation distributed throughout the supporters club to take up the allocation?

Its like saying, sorry Mr(s) X, were going to exclude you from this game despite your attendance every home and away game because we want to give the allocation to a group outside the club to determine who can take up the allocation

[Pacman1903]

Giving money to sevco should be a criminal offence

[afc1903mad]

Giving money to sevco should be a criminal offence

Maybe, but watching us beat them there is worth it ;)

[Mason89]

Were they?

Yes. It’s what separates them from people who go most weeks, people who go some weeks & people who go the odd week.

Under the old system, no top red was missing out & the rest had a chance at it. This system creates a two tier support. The toppest reds seem to be smugly enjoying their new status, without giving a thought to what it means to the support as a whole

[GASC1980]

I think Mason has a relevant point. Say someone is a member of a supporters club but can't go to every game and perhaps can only go on a handful of occasions. Surely that person is going to want to pick a sevco game rather than a hamilton away game but is then denied an opportunity to purchase a ticket due to the points system in place. I understand the points system but it does have it's pros and cons. For example i don't have enough points until tomorrow (my own fault), but say there are none left so I miss out. I therefore haven't moved up the points ladder but the toppest of reds who had enough points for phase 1 buys a ticket and further increases his points tally. This is always going to happen as people who have enough points will buy for those who don't if they can't go themselves. I highlighted this in a thread last season. Think there needs to be a percentage of tickets perhaps 10% of say a small allocation like this one that has to be perhaps set aside for supporters clubs (reading between the lines this is no longer the case?) so that supporters clubs can then give every member an opportunity to apply for one whether they are successful or not. It's a tricky situation and a system which will never appease everyone although as kkong pointed out could certainly have been utilised much more effectively.

[curvasud]

Were they?
Or was the allocation distributed throughout the supporters club to take up the allocation?

Its like saying, sorry Mr(s) X, were going to exclude you from this game despite your attendance every home and away game because we want to give the allocation to a group outside the club to determine who can take up the allocation


Yes. It’s what separates them from people who go most weeks, people who go some weeks & people who go the odd week.

Under the old system, no top red was missing out & the rest had a chance at it. This system creates a two tier support. The toppest reds seem to be smugly enjoying their new status, without giving a thought to what it means to the support as a whole

Actually these new entitled top reds weren't going at all.

I went to Ibrox under McGhee and Brown with only 500-600 there. Pissheads and a lot of young folk there for the hatred. Under Calderwood we'd sell it out but me, as a non season ticket holder, just phoned up any supporters bus and got a seat and a ticket no problem.

I went to the first game back there, with none of my mates because they didn't have the loyalty points. It was largely a certain demographic standing hands in pockets. The atmosphere was dreadful. People didn't know why they were there. Really, they were there only because they have this new status and decided to get tickets before anyone else. I'm certain at least 2/3 of the support had never been in that away end before.

The last game at Ibrox in 2012 there were 150 ASC there. The club have got the customers they want now and Rangers away isn't what it was so no point worrying about missing it.

The smug 'top reds' complaining on social media when they don't get reserved tickets, or defending this system, are newcomers.

[GASC1980]

I haven't missed a game at Ibrox since the late seventies. And in the early eighties when there was only a couple of hundred folk going it wasn't much fun sitting in a corner of the Broomloan Road stand up against all sorts. (Same going to Parkhead). Believe me there were plenty of older ASC there at the first game last season who had nowhere near enough loyalty points. That's simply due to folk who had no intention of going but had enough points, buying tickets and passing them on. That wont change and is exactly how i got mine last season.

[curvasud]

I haven't missed a game at Ibrox since the late seventies. And in the early eighties when there was only a couple of hundred folk going it wasn't much fun sitting in a corner of the Broomloan Road stand up against all sorts. (Same going to Parkhead). Believe me there were plenty of older ASC there at the first game last season who had nowhere near enough loyalty points. That's simply due to folk who had no intention of going but had enough points, buying tickets and passing them on. That wont change and is exactly how i got mine last season.

Aye there are some who of course get tickets like that. Songs just weren't catching on after the first couple after kick off. Was deid. There seemed to be a structure in place when we were crap of who and what type of people went to which games. Even Tannadice from around 2015 sort of lost the pissheads and for some reason we take less fans.

[kkong]

but the toppest of reds who had enough points for phase 1 buys a ticket and further increases his points tally.

They have addressed this somewhat by only awarding 1 point per away league games this season.

It was previously 2 points per game.

Compare with 4 points per home cup game and 2 points per home league game, there is more correlation with money spent to AFC's benefit.

An anomaly is the 4 points awarded for each Euro away game.

[GASC1980]

Yep totally agree with what you're saying. More set up to the club's benefit now with more incentive to attend home games.

4 points for an away European game. Ha ha that's if you get a ticket!!!

4 points though for an away European game seems reasonable considering the money and time you spend getting there. No?

[kkong]

Yep totally agree with what you're saying. More set up to the club's benefit now with more incentive to attend home games.

4 points for an away European game. Ha ha that's if you get a ticket!!!

4 points though for an away European game seems reasonable considering the money and time you spend getting there. No?

I've no problem with 4 points for Euro away games - vested interest since I go to them all. :)

I just wondered about why those away games retain 4 points but domestic ones don't.

[GASC1980]

Quite happy to get 4 points also for Euro aways as i'm at them all too!!!

[GASC1980]

Got one over the phone this morning. Online appears to be down!

[mondo_notion]

Still 150 odd tickets left. Doesn't seem to be folk clambering to get there this time.

[GASC1980]

Live on Sky doesn't help obviously. Still a bit surprised at how many are left. There you go Mason. Fill your boots.

[Mason89]

Live on Sky doesn't help obviously. Still a bit surprised at how many are left. There you go Mason. Fill your boots.

I canny make it anyway :)

I just don’t like passing up an opportunity to have a go at this ridiculous Tory ticket system