Match Thread vs. Swansea City [FAC4R] 06/02/18

[SwalePie]

Three changes from Saturday: Dickinson, Virtue, Hawkridge in for Jones, Hewitt, and Ameobi.

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[tarquinbeech]

Three changes from Saturday: Dickinson, Virtue, Hawkridge in for Jones, Hewitt, and Ameobi.

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Just stuck a couple of squid on Notts.....I am probably MAD.....what the hell.....COYP

[BanjoPie]

Thought Husin was cup tied - obviously I was wrong, would have liked to have seen Noble in from the start

[tarquinbeech]

Strange KO time?......is it live somewhere?

[Elite_Pie]

Strange KO time?......is it live somewhere?

Those of us who are proud to live in this country can watch it live on the British Broadcasting Company.

I wonder if it will be biased towards left wingers?

[tarquinbeech]

Those of us who are proud to live in this country can watch it live on the British Broadcasting Company.

I wonder if it will be biased towards left wingers?

I will ignore the little dig.....thanks for the info Elite xx

[DaveSmithRules]

Surprised Hewitt isn't in the squad. Is he injured?

[ireallyhateforest]

Surprised Hewitt isn't in the squad. Is he injured?

Ill according to the BBC.

[BanjoPie]

Looking a bit over-whelmed at the minute - would have preferred Noble in place of Vertue, too light weight

[DaveSmithRules]

😕

[jackal2]

Oops, 1-0, 2-0!

[DaveSmithRules]

😕😕😕

[navypie]

3-0, well at least the beers going down well.

[BanjoPie]

as the Rolling Stones song goes - "Its all over now" :( -Oh well hope its not 7 or 8

[jackal2]

3-0 and counting! We've caught Swansea in their best form of the season and frankly we look overawed.

Still, we can concentrate on the league from here on in, which is what matters.

[CmonUSexyStylishPies]

Not a good night - Getting thumped and dropped out of the automatic places as it stands.

[Warnocks Legends]

Little bit embarrassing Notts always under perform on TV, not a great advert for league 2

[Notts78]

Men against boys. Have we given a free kick away yet?

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Coyp 3-1

[jackal2]

Husin again, lovely goal! The lad can finish like a Premier League player, that's for sure!

[CmonUSexyStylishPies]

4-3, we're gonna win 4-3.

[BanjoPie]

seems like we have woken up - can we come back? dare we dream? COYP's

[CmonUSexyStylishPies]

Noor Husin = Dean Thomas.

[navypie]

Everything coming down our left , Dicko and Hawkridge have been awful.

[Warnocks Legends]

We are much better than this, the lads looked knackered and clueless , just can't understand what's got into them tonight

[CmonUSexyStylishPies]

Not sure why Jones makes way for Dickinson?

[Notts78]

Why have we not put a tackle in? At least KC wont have learned anything from that

[BigFatPie]

No idea what we were trying to do there. Showed all the passion of a limp cock for most of that.

Barnet is a big game though.

[Warnocks Legends]

Dickinson and hawkridge are simply not in the game

[Lullapie]

This could be the biggest FA Cup comeback in Notts' history. :D

[tarquinbeech]

We are getting a lesson here on how to play proper football.....total domination by Swansea, pass and move, pass and move.....simple....kick and rush cannot work against a team that will not let you have the ball, plus we are sitting off them and letting them play Barca~style.....awesome display by the Welsh side.....another cracking strike by Husin is making it look respectable

[Robertomac]

Everything coming down our left , Dicko and Hawkridge have been awful.

Not managed a tackle between them. Dreadful.

Apart from the one last ditch tackle, Virtue looks rubbish as well.

We've just stood off them too much... again. Why don't we take it to them. The spell we just had where we had a go, we looked like we were going to get another.

[the_anticlough]

Everything coming down our left , Dicko and Hawkridge have been awful.

True, but each time the ball's come in from that side the marking has been really poor as well.

[Warnocks Legends]

Feel very very flat no passion no pressure nonhope

[BanjoPie]

Need to strengthen the left side of midfield - Milsom on to play in front of Dickinson + Ameobi to replace Allesandra ??

[tarquinbeech]

Not sure why Jones makes way for Dickinson?

Dicko is getting ripped apart by their winger......no tackling, way too slow

[Notts78]

I think it is harsh to assess a players performance against superior opposition. As a team we simply made it too easy in that half.
I wouldn’t bother bringing Shola on. Leave him for Saturday. I would give Noble and Forte a run out in the 2nd half.

[tarquinbeech]

Everything coming down our left , Dicko and Hawkridge have been awful.

Spot on.....every time they come down that wing they look like scoring

[drillerpie]

Not sure what we're trying to do, we're not parking the bus on the edge of the box and we're not pressing them high up or bombarding their box with high balls. His in looks a player though, new contract for himin the summer at this rate!

[the_anticlough]

Not managed a tackle between them. Dreadful.

Apart from the one last ditch tackle, Virtue looks rubbish as well.

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He's not the only one, but on this showing he doesn't look like a Liverpool player, nothing to show he can play on the ball. It's unfair to single anyone out though - all have struggled to get into the game , possession is 29%

[navypie]

Not managed a tackle between them. Dreadful.

Apart from the one last ditch tackle, Virtue looks rubbish as well.

We've just stood off them too much... again. Why don't we take it to them. The spell we just had where we had a go, we looked like we were going to get another.

Great last ditch tackle by Virtue , the first and only thing I have seen from him in his short time at Notts. I really hope he gets better during our run in but just cant see it , looks lost and simply not good enough.

[Warnocks Legends]

Is Hewitt injured?

[Pies4u]

Driller/Roberto/Navy: Well, that is true, but no surprise. Dicko gets done for pace in Div 2 & Hawkridge provides little or no cover for his full back - but - no matter how good Husin's goals are he is a bit weak off the ball. He has no real pace, limited defensive awareness/instinct and him & Virtue have been completely anonymous, over run and flat footed all game. Husin was the same on Sat but everyone seemed to get completely carried away by his goal. He needs to be able to display a bit more grit and make life difficult for opponents for my money.

Our lack of pace and awareness has been cruelly exposed by a below average P league team. Disappointing so far.

Concentrate on the League.

[BigFatPie]

The first game was a weird one, they were all over us until they scored and then we were all over them. Until we scored, and we’ve carried that on.

Hunt, Dicko, and Virtue are sadly lacking in this company though.

[Proudpie]

Massive gulf in class
Its a training session for them
Lets see how Newport fare as a comparison

[ArnieBaTS]

Dicko, Hawkridge, Hunt and Virtue all look horribly exposed.

Feel sorry for Collin who hasn't had a chance with any of the goals.

Unfortunately, the scoreline reflects the gulf in class.

[ArnieBaTS]

Dicko, Hawkridge, Hunt and Virtue all look horribly exposed.

Feel sorry for Collin who hasn't had a chance with any of the goals.

Unfortunately, the scoreline reflects the gulf in class.

Collin at fault for the 5th... tempted fate there.

[Warnocks Legends]

Collin is poor too never commands his box effectively

[Pies4u]

We look like a pub team tho' - that's the problem.

[BanjoPie]

May as well bring Ameobi, Noble & Milsom on now

[navypie]

If only it was a boxing match.

[DaveSmithRules]

😕😕😕😕😕😕

[navypie]

May as well bring Ameobi, Noble & Milsom on now

I wouldn't want to come on.

[BanjoPie]

Can the ref blow time now Pleeaaassseee - Nolan, throw the towel in>:(

[Warnocks Legends]

This is an utter embarrassment the class gulf is just huge.cannot remember Notts playing so bad

[Pies4u]

It is a nightmare tbh.

[BanjoPie]

'Get Smith on quick"

[upthemaggies]

Looks like we're going to outdo our previous worst televised defeat, the 7-1 drubbing at Man City in the League Cup in 1998.

[navypie]

Looks like we're going to outdo our previous worst televised defeat, the 7-1 drubbing at Man City in the League Cup in 1998.

I would take 7-1 now.

[HopefulPie]

Looks like we're going to outdo our previous worst televised defeat, the 7-1 drubbing at Man City in the League Cup in 1998.

It's embarrassing and won't do a lot for confidence for Saturday.

[Notts78]

May as well bring Ameobi, Noble & Milsom on now

Why on God’s Earth would you put them 3 on?Game is dead, why risk Shola?
Thank heaven KN is thinking better than this

[marky]

Hopefully they'll declare but you can hear Carvahal urging them on "go go go".

[jackal2]

It's a disappointing display, even allowing for the relative quality of the opposition. The least we should be doing is putting in some crunching tackles and making the Swansea players decide it's not worth getting injured for the sake of an extra goal or pass. I don't think Pitbull Paual Harding would have accepted this fate so readily.

[Warnocks Legends]

Why change a winning side again?? Is Hewitt injured?

[KeepTheMagpieFlyingH]

Keith Curle hit the nail on the head at HT..not one L2 tackle in the first half and we've had none so far in the second. We've stood off all game and you can't do that against quality.

[Notts78]

Then we end up with suspensions. Someone called Notts performance a pub team display. That is the comment of a pub footballer.

[navypie]

Smith comes on, looking to close the game out ?

[keldsyke]

Think the substitutions are for Saturday in mind, will be interesting to see if Fitzsimons comes back

[Warnocks Legends]

Gone from disappointing to disgraceful

[BanjoPie]

'Get Smith on quick"

'Nolan must be on the forum"

[drillerpie]

It's like we've read the manual entitled 'how to play against Premier League teams in cup games' and done the exact opposite. Weird.

[Bohinen]

Luckily, we don't have to play the same team in the league. Surely the Virtue experiment will end now.

[upthemaggies]

Jesus, we're now only two goals short of equaling our all time record defeat with 25 minutes still to play.

[BanjoPie]

Double figures?

[navypie]

Me and my lad sat here laughing now , sorry but you just have to:D

[BanjoPie]

poor gate so not much cash from the game either>:(

[Warnocks Legends]

Nolan has a great record of unearthing emerging talent but don't think Matty virtue is definitely one of them

[CmonUSexyStylishPies]

I'm really looking forward to work tomorrow with an office full of F worders.

[Proudpie]

Huge credit to the 1300 Notts fans
They brought 1500 on a Saturday

[BanjoPie]

😕😕😕😕😕😕

Might run out of these soon

[The_Don_ORiordan]

I'm really looking forward to work tomorrow with an office full of F worders.

Who do they have in the cup? At least we lost to a team above us....(although hull will be above them soon)

[DaveSmithRules]

We can still win this lads... 😜

[navypie]

Nolan has a great record of unearthing emerging talent but don't think Matty virtue is definitely one of them

I hate being hard on the kid but I just think he's rubbish . I bet he's released by Liverpool at the end off the season.

[uysapie]

It's a disappointing display, even allowing for the relative quality of the opposition. The least we should be doing is putting in some crunching tackles and making the Swansea players decide it's not worth getting injured for the sake of an extra goal or pass. I don't think Pitbull Paual Harding would have accepted this fate so readily.

Like that from the first minute, as if we wanted to lose.

[Warnocks Legends]

Superb away following , amazing fans let down tonight by a very very lacklustre and jaded Notts team

[uysapie]

Gone from disappointing to disgraceful

Total capitulation.

[Pies4u]

Dreadful, simply dreadful. Not sure what else you can say, we have been worse than I can ever remember.

[uysapie]

Dreadful, simply dreadful. Not sure what else you can say, we have been worse than I can ever remember.

Even worse than against Salford!!

[Notts78]

Glad the supporters at the game are still backing the lads.

[TedBovisPie]

Inbarrasing :p
No one any good but the centre backs... Sheesh..

Not good for team confidence a tonking like this. I've switched it off now enough is enough.

[upthemaggies]

https://kubrickontheguillotine.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ripping-yarns-golden-gordon.jpg

8-1, 8 bloody 1.

[BanjoPie]

Oh dear>:(

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Dreadful, simply dreadful. Not sure what else you can say, we have been worse than I can ever remember.
Really?

We’ve been poor, we haven’t turned up. But let’s keep this in perspective. Swansea are a team in form, who’ve beaten arsenal and Liverpool in recent days.

I’ve seen us a lot worse than this, and you don’t even have to go back very many years.

Just one word. Fullerton?

Salford, a pub team.

Macclesfield, Mansfield, Carlisle???

[Thordardaughter]

Superb away following , amazing fans let down tonight by a very very lacklustre and jaded Notts team

I think Nolan should have a look at himself after that team selection. The travelling fans should at the very least get their money back. Total embarrassment and I would imagine a fair few of the players confidence smashed.

[JoePass]

Utter humiliation. We move on.

[BanjoPie]

Vertue looks like he had has enough

[uysapie]

Inbarrasing :p
No one any good but the centre backs... Sheesh..

Not good for team confidence a tonking like this. I've switched it off now enough is enough.

Yep, can't watch this any more, totally without fight.

[Warnocks Legends]

This cannot be good for team morale.kn needs to get hold of them or our season could wobble

[keldsyke]

Draw a line under it move on to Barnet on saturday

[Pies4u]

Really?

We’ve been poor, we haven’t turned up. But let’s keep this in perspective. Swansea are a team in form, who’ve beaten arsenal and Liverpool in recent days.

I’ve seen us a lot worse than this, and you don’t even have to go back very many years.

Just one word. Fullerton?

Give over. Don't talk tripe. This is simply shambolic, no matter who the opposition are. We haven't shown any endeavour, fight or basic ability. Not many L2 teams have lost 8 - 1 to Prem sides over the years.

[BanjoPie]

Really?

We’ve been poor, we haven’t turned up. But let’s keep this in perspective. Swansea are a team in form, who’ve beaten arsenal and Liverpool in recent days.

I’ve seen us a lot worse than this, and you don’t even have to go back very many years.

Just one word. Fullerton?

Salford, a pub team.

Macclesfield, Mansfield, Carlisle???

And this is not their best team

[Robertomac]

I can take losing. I can take losing to a much better opposition. What pees me off is the complete and total lack of bite tonight. The stat that we made one foul in the whole first half shows just how much we've stood off them. Embarrassed in front of the whole nation on live tv again.

[Notts78]

What is embarrassing is the number of infrequent posters slagging off lads who for the most part this season have done well. Well done.

[keldsyke]

And this is not their best team

Not ours too

[BanjoPie]

let's just hope we don't have any injuries from the game

[uysapie]

I think Nolan should have a look at himself after that team selection. The travelling fans should at the very least get their money back. Total embarrassment and I would imagine a fair few of the players confidence smashed.

No idea what our tactics were supposed to be but a powder puff midfield, without any real tackles or pressurising, was a recipe for disaster.

[drillerpie]

Very unfortunate after the great work to get 17k in on Saturday, humiliation on national TV not really the way to attract new fans.

Still, bigger picture and all that. 7th or better at the end of the season and all will be forgotten.

[upthemaggies]

Last time we lost by 7 goals was in 1960 at Bury (0-7).

[uysapie]

Very unfortunate after the great work to get 17k in on Saturday, humiliation on national TV not really the way to attract new fans.

Still, bigger picture and all that. 7th or better at the end of the season and all will be forgotten.

You think this will be forgotten?

[Robertomac]

Give over. Don't talk tripe. This is simply shambolic, no matter who the opposition are. We haven't shown any endeavour, fight or basic ability. Not many L2 teams have lost 8 - 1 to Prem sides over the years.

Agreed. The only good thing has been hearing the wheelbarrow song with such gusto, despite the scoreline.

[uysapie]

Now 8 bleddy 1, total embarrassment on tv>

[jackal2]

Draw a line under it move on to Barnet on saturday

It's been mentioned in the TV commentary, but the only way to react to this is the way Crystal Palace reacted to being slaughtered by Liverpool all those years ago. We need a snarling, angry reaction at Barnet on Saturday and fierce determination for the rest of the season. If it ends in promotion, nobody will care a jot about tonight.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Give over. Don't talk tripe. This is simply shambolic, no matter who the opposition are. We haven't shown any endeavour, fight or basic ability. Not many L2 teams have lost 8 - 1 to Prem sides over the years.

You’re the epitome of the football fans short memory.

We’ve played a lot worse. The result reflects the quality of Swansea as much as the poor performance by us.

[Warnocks Legends]

Huge thumbs up to the fans , sang their hearts out, I'm sat here totally numb and dumbfounded

[Bohinen]

Thank **** that is over.

[marky]

Curle looks happy and a bit smug.

[AltyPie]

Oh well, could have been worse.

[CmonUSexyStylishPies]

Who do they have in the cup? At least we lost to a team above us....(although hull will be above them soon)

There's losing and then there's losing 8-1 on national TV.

[Notts78]

Curle looks happy and a bit smug.

Yes, but teams often react one of 2 ways after a crushing defeat like that. We could go on a season ending losing run, or we go the opposite way and use it as motivation for what happens when standards drop. I fancy us to go on a run of the positive direction and smash Carlisle after Barnet.

[navypie]

What is embarrassing is the number of infrequent posters slagging off lads who for the most part this season have done well. Well done.

Couldn't agree more,I would have liked us to at least put a tackle in though.

[drillerpie]

You think this will be forgotten?

If the season ends well then nobody will care what happened in a one off game in February.

[Robertomac]

Oh well, could have been worse.

I think that could easily have gone to double figures if Swansea really went for it...

[uysapie]

If the season ends well then nobody will care what happened in a one off game in February.

You always remember hammerings, either winning or losing. Newport 8-1 1961 for example

[keldsyke]

You always remember hammerings, either winning or losing.

Only because you keep mentioning it in every thread! The best thing that could happen is for the bedwetters not to panic for the next few days and concentrate on getting behind them at Barnet.

[sidders]

You’re the epitome of the football fans short memory.

We’ve played a lot worse. The result reflects the quality of Swansea as much as the poor performance by us.

It's not about being beaten. It's about losing with honour and Notts didn't.

[AltyPie]

I think that could easily have gone to double figures if Swansea really went for it...

Exactly. No distractions from a long cup run now, Barnet could be complacent on sunday, and we've just had our worst result of the decade (probably)... struggling now help me out...

[uysapie]

Only because you keep mentioning it in every thread! The best thing that could happen is for the bedwetters not to panic for the next few days and concentrate on getting behind them at Barnet.

That result bleddy hurt, nowt to do with "bedwetters", whatever they are. It will rankle for a long time.

Barnet is the next game, we need to get back to winning ways and keep the promotion push going.

[BigFatPie]

Nolan has had his fair share of the credit this season so he’s got to take the stick for that.

His team selection was piss poor, totally wrong. And his tictacs seemed to be to stand off them, absorb pressure and somehow hit them on the break. When that totally didn’t work in the first game.

Having said that, we have maybe 5 players to bring in to strengthen the team for Barnet (Tootle and Jones please) so there’s absolutely no reason why it should disrupt our season.

[keldsyke]

That result bleddy hurt, nowt to do with "bedwetters", whatever they are. It will rankle for a long time.

Barnet is the next game, we need to get back to winning ways and keep the promotion push going.

Exactly your last paragraph 👍

[drillerpie]

You always remember hammerings, either winning or losing. Newport 8-1 1961 for example

Salford was equally embarrassing and only a couple of years ago, but nobody was thinking about that when we smashed Crewe in front of a massive crowd.

For what it's worth tonight was awful. Weirdly, bizarrely, inexplicably awful. I put off something important to watch it, am already getting the piss ripped out of me on Facebook, and to make matters worse I had a couple of bets on Swansea with huge handicaps in the first game when I thought this would happen and nothing tonight.

But what can we do? Call for Nolan out when he's over performing? Boo the players? Protest against the chairman when he's doing a great job? Whistle's gone, start thinking about Barnet.

[Notts78]

I remember hammering Crewe from our division just a few days a go. So which one do we remember? I am confused because we are supposed to remember them all.

[SolSigns]

We need a snarling, angry reaction at Barnet on Saturday and fierce determination for the rest of the season.

This, a million times this. Nolan needs to use the disappointment, humiliation and (hopefully) anger the players are feeling right now to drive our promotion home.

[uysapie]

I remember hammering Crewe from our division just a few days a go. So which one do we remember? I am confused because we are supposed to remember them all.

4-1 is not a hammering( although it should have been at least 6).

[uysapie]

This, a million times this. Nolan needs to use the disappointment, humiliation and (hopefully) anger the players are feeling right now to drive our promotion home.

Totally agree.

[Steward]

Feel sorry for the fans that made the long journey and had to witness that no show by the team.

[navypie]

Exactly. No distractions from a long cup run now, Barnet could be complacent on sunday, and we've just had our worst result of the decade (probably)... struggling now help me out...

Have they moved Barnet to Sunday? Better change my travel plans.

[Notts78]

4-1 is not a hammering( although it should have been at least 6).

I would say it was a hammering. I would also add they Crewe are in the **** and the hammering we dished out on them could contribute to there relegation. A fate thankfully we don’t need to worry about.
You mentioned the 8-1 Newport win from 1961. Hope you can remember Notts’ form prior to that game? We lost 4 in a row.
This is one game. In isolation it’s an absolute shocker. In the context of our season, it should not detract from our objective, and hopefully the players react better than some on here.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

It's not about being beaten. It's about losing with honour and Notts didn't.

I don’t disagree, we were awful. But is it the worse performance ever?

If you think that, you haven’t followed Notts very much. You don’t even have to go back far to find some far worse.

[nw6pie]

I switched off at 1-0, because I had never been more certain that we were going to get thrashed - even then, though, I thought we might keep it down to five! Rabbits in headlights.

Let’s hope we get the right response against Barnet, because they have embarrassed themselves tonight. Let’s be honest, it is typical Notts to go from the high of Saturday to tonight’s fiasco.

[uysapie]

I would say it was a hammering. I would also add they Crewe are in the **** and the hammering we dished out on them could contribute to there relegation. A fate thankfully we don’t need to worry about.
You mentioned the 8-1 Newport win from 1961. Hope you can remember Notts’ form prior to that game? We lost 4 in a row.
This is one game. In isolation it’s an absolute shocker. In the context of our season, it should not detract from our objective, and hopefully the players react better than some on here.

It will be a test of character to see how they respond, hopefully with fight and desire to win as they have shown in matches this season.

[MancMagpie]

Curle looks happy and a bit smug.

I was thinking that....Koont

[tarquinbeech]

Dicko, Hawkridge, Hunt and Virtue all look horribly exposed.

Feel sorry for Collin who hasn't had a chance with any of the goals.

Unfortunately, the scoreline reflects the gulf in class.

Fitz is a far better keeper.....Collin flaps at crosses and is not a shot~stopper

[tarquinbeech]

Couldn't agree more,I would have liked us to at least put a tackle in though.

Agreed .....totally shambolic, no idea what we were doing......they had 75 % possession but when we did get the ball, we booted it back to them....weird....they must have thought they were in a training match

[ArnieBaTS]

Fitz is a far better keeper.....Collin flaps at crosses and is not a shot~stopper

I don't think Collins handling and shot stopping is that bad, he just needs to learn to push the ball further away when parrying, how many times does he parry and the ball goes straight to a striker?

Agreed, Fitzsimons is a better keeper.

[MancMagpie]

I don't think Collins handling and shot stopping is that bad, he just needs to learn to push the ball further away when parrying, how many times does he parry and the ball goes straight to a striker?

Agreed, Fitzsimons is a better keeper.

No way. this is just a reactive response from tonight. They are both equally as good in my opinion but have different qualities.

Collin has been rushed back and looked out of sorts.

Our brilliant unbeaten run was with Collin between the sticks.

I'm happy with either. You're just catastrophising.

[MancMagpie]

Think Collin had 7 clean sheets in the unbeaten run

[tarquinbeech]

No way. this is just a reactive response from tonight. They are both equally as good in my opinion but have different qualities.

Collin has been rushed back and looked out of sorts.

Our brilliant unbeaten run was with Collin between the sticks.

I'm happy with either. You're just catastrophising.

"catastrophising".....I am now metamorphosing into a paraphrasing omnivore via semaphore...waves frantically at the stratosphere.

[ArnieBaTS]

No way. this is just a reactive response from tonight. They are both equally as good in my opinion but have different qualities.

Collin has been rushed back and looked out of sorts.

Our brilliant unbeaten run was with Collin between the sticks.

I'm happy with either. You're just catastrophising.

Not at all reactive after last night. Even before Collin got injured, I had this opinion.

I still believe that Fitzsimons is a marginally better keeper but in no way do I think either keeper is bad. I'm just pointing out my opinion of a weakness in Collins game.

[i961pie]

Well I was delighted when it was on NZ tv on ESPN but the delight didn't last long as I had to go out and do a bit of gardening for my daughter cos it was to painful to watch.
it was like a training game with no tackles from us.