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1959_60
22-03-2018, 09:41 AM
...to be made in France.

Our current passport is made in Gateshead but they have lost the contract.

By the way, there would have been no problem to have produced our current passport in blue.

I doubt if anyone on here will be too mithered, but there will be plenty of traditionalists going apoplectic about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43489462

sinkov
22-03-2018, 09:51 AM
The contract should go to the company that can meet the required quality at the cheapest price. If that company is French......so what ? I'm not in the least bit mithered about it, I've far more important things to worry about, like what's going to win the Lincoln on Saturday and longer term, the Grand National.

1959_60
22-03-2018, 09:59 AM
It's surely got to be Fire Brigade Sinkov?

sinkov
22-03-2018, 10:23 AM
It ticks all the boxes 59/60, including the name, it's the likeliest winner but I don't like the price. If some firms are paying on the first 5 or 6 on Saturday and I can get around 6/1 I might have an each-way bet, but with Moore booked already I would think it will keep on shortening.

alfinyalcabo
22-03-2018, 11:36 AM
https://youtu.be/b42ck7iaLb4

Altobelli
22-03-2018, 08:41 PM
Another p!ss poor performance from the clowns in Government.

I always thought that the passport was more black than blue.

Gemalto has won the tender (Lottery) all fair and square regardless of what silly appeal De La Rue are contemplating.

But our Government should have probed further and asked Gemalto and other's how much they would do it for if they were contracted to do it, then gone back to De La Rue and given it to them for a reasonable price stating Government Security and that it must be done by our own Company and not put it up for tender, after all France and other Countries state the same reason for doing it themselves.

But as per usual they throw us another P!ss poor reason "We have saved the taxpayer £120 Million", and most of the Country yet again swallow it.

sinkov
22-03-2018, 09:54 PM
Another p!ss poor performance from the clowns in Government.

I always thought that the passport was more black than blue.

Gemalto has won the tender (Lottery) all fair and square regardless of what silly appeal De La Rue are contemplating.

But our Government should have probed further and asked Gemalto and other's how much they would do it for if they were contracted to do it, then gone back to De La Rue and given it to them for a reasonable price stating Government Security and that it must be done by our own Company and not put it up for tender, after all France and other Countries state the same reason for doing it themselves.

But as per usual they throw us another P!ss poor reason "We have saved the taxpayer £120 Million", and most of the Country yet again swallow it.

Yes, that's all well and good Alto, but what about Fire Brigade for the Lincoln at 5/1, is that value for money ?

Norder
22-03-2018, 10:08 PM
.

I read that - Axalto and Gemplus merged in 2005/6 to form Gemalto.

....Texas Pacific Group and the Quandt family entities, Gemplus' largest shareholders

https://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTE_20051207_OTE0001/axalto-and-gemplus-to-combine-to-create-a-global-leader-in-digital-security

....TGP are an American investment company - Quandt are Germany's wealthiest family - and the entities ???

other shareholders.

http://investors.morningstar.com/ownership/shareholders-major.html?t=0OGA&region=gbr&culture=en-US&ownerCountry=USA


...and the board.

https://www.gemalto.com/companyinfo/board



...likely goes deeper - something like this....https://www.forbes.com/sites/brendancoffey/2011/10/26/the-four-companies-that-control-the-147-companies-that-own-everything/#2047c264685b


.......there are no Nations !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk


;D

1959_60
22-03-2018, 10:11 PM
It's a complete no-brainer Sinkov.

The jockey will even be sporting a claret top with sky blue sleeves.

It is written in the stars.

I may even have a quid on it myself...

Altobelli
22-03-2018, 10:51 PM
Yes, that's all well and good Alto, but what about Fire Brigade for the Lincoln at 5/1, is that value for money ?

Have not touched the gee gee's for over a decade 59, used to lose my wage every week, then realised (at the time) there was plenty of paying in windows in the bookies but only one that paid out.

I only do fun bets on Football now, but I did win a pretty penny when Coyle took us up to the Prem :)

Altobelli
22-03-2018, 10:54 PM
Yes, that's all well and good Alto, but what about Fire Brigade for the Lincoln at 5/1, is that value for money ?

And NO, its not all well and good, its wasteful and incompetent from a Government that is supposed to look out for our welfare, its shoddy work and stinks to high heaven :mad:

sinkov
23-03-2018, 12:46 AM
It's a complete no-brainer Sinkov.

The jockey will even be sporting a claret top with sky blue sleeves.

It is written in the stars.

I may even have a quid on it myself...

I've gone for it tonight after seeing it's drawn just three off the rail. With an odds boost from Billy Hill I've got a fraction under 6/1 and a BOG. It's plenty short enough in a race like this, but I got sick of seeing Ryan Moore booting home horses that I thought were too short last summer, so I'm not letting this one go unbacked.

sinkov
23-03-2018, 12:55 AM
And NO, its not all well and good, its wasteful and incompetent from a Government that is supposed to look out for our welfare, its shoddy work and stinks to high heaven :mad:

Alto, I live in a country that sees fit to give away £13 billion a year to foreign countries, while NHS patients lie on trolleys for days on end, and old folk lie in their own ****e in care homes, because the social care system has collapsed. So I really don't give a FF about who prints our passport covers, what colour they are, or whether we could have saved a few million here or there. We live in a lunatic asylum, governed by cretins, and there's nowt to be done about it, so I'd much rather concern myself with the gee-gees.

1959_60
24-03-2018, 04:06 PM
Whoops!

sinkov
25-03-2018, 08:11 AM
Whoops!

Thank you very much 59/60, it's all your bloody fault, in the end I had it down to three, Lord Glitters, Addeybb and Fire Brigade, as you'd already convinced me that Fire Brigade was the one, I let the other two run un-backed, and they finished first and second.

From now on I'm going to act like everyone else in our green and pleasant, and totally ignore anything a LibDem says.

alfinyalcabo
25-03-2018, 09:01 AM
I won the Cheltenham nap league on t'other site,so I put my tenner winnings on Gabrial e/w and made 30 plus quid and donated it to the guide dogs for the blind.. What a saint I am..O:)

1959_60
25-03-2018, 09:38 AM
Don't worry Sinkov, I'll make it up to you by giving you the inside track on the National.

The Bedlington Terrier
25-03-2018, 09:46 AM
You should know by now never to trust anything a Lib-Dem says.

1959_60
25-03-2018, 10:19 AM
Talking about lying, cheating, corrupt politicians....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/24/brexit-whistleblower-cambridge-analytica-beleave-vote-leave-shahmir-sanni

sinkov
25-03-2018, 10:38 AM
Don't worry Sinkov, I'll make it up to you by giving you the inside track on the National.

I can't wait !! ;D