Darrell Clarke & Paul Hurst

[Scanlon's Hatrick]

Are both between jobs I believe
Both taken teams up from non league and in Clarke' s case into L1
If Mr Ardley Is not retained, would either be a good option, if they would drop down ?

[optipez]

There's Steve Evans too. All good managers, all want a budget and time.

[bridpie78]

There's Steve Evans too. All good managers, all want a budget and time.

i dont think you'll get many likes for mentioning steve evans here XD

[bridpie78]

Dave chalinor is the man, he hasn't required or demanded lots of money to bring success to afc fylde, playing and managing experience at this level, he'd do a job for notts just the kind of character we need.

[legs77]

These are 2 names I mentioned earlier but these are out of our reach if honest they will both get jobs in the league.

As for Evans he falls into the above category but I would take him in a flash over Ardley he isn’t very well liked but to be honest I couldn’t care less he wins football matches and that is all that SHOULD matter not having a nice guy loser like we currently have.

[optipez]

Dave chalinor is the man, he hasn't required or demanded lots of money to bring success to afc fylde, playing and managing experience at this level, he'd do a job for notts just the kind of character we need.

I thought Fylde had a free spending chairman. Challinor done pretty well, did so at Colwyn Bay before getting the job.

[bridpie78]

I thought Fylde had a free spending chairman. Challinor done pretty well, did so at Colwyn Bay before getting the job.

they spent 50k on one player this year the rest were all free agents and loans, he seems to have a good eye for younger players who havent made the cut at league clubs

[jscarr]

2 managers sacked at their last club, sounds like Ardley mark 2. The guy from Fylde could be interesting but don't know much about him.

[nw6pie]

Challinor is the long throw specialist from Tranmere, right? I see Fylde are through to the playoff final next week against Salford, so he may be in league football next season anyway.

[navypie]

Are both between jobs I believe
Both taken teams up from non league and in Clarke' s case into L1
If Mr Ardley Is not retained, would either be a good option, if they would drop down ?

I for one want Mr Ardley,

[Elite_Pie]

I for one want Mr Ardley,

On what basis? Is it because you see genuine qualities in him, or is it because we can't keep sacking managers?

[navypie]

There's Steve Evans too. All good managers, all want a budget and time.

No fcuking way I would want that fcuking foul-mouthed cnut at our club and his equally fouled mouthed sidekick , Raynor.t Let's face it anyway. Evans looks like one bacon sarnie away from not making it until the end of the season

[bridpie78]

On what basis? Is it because you see genuine qualities in him, or is it because we can't keep sacking managers?

this is Notts, you know we'll finally stop the cycle of sacking managers right at the moment we have the worst one we've ever had:p, it's the Notts thing to do,we'll do a Notts

[bridpie78]

No fcuking I would want that fcuking foul-mouthed cnut at our club and his equally fouled mouthed sidekick , Raynor.t Let's face it anyway. Evans looks like one bacon sarnie away from not making it until the end of the season

lovely foul mouthed response Navy:D:D:D

[Elite_Pie]

No fcuking way I would want that fcuking foul-mouthed cnut at our club and his equally fouled mouthed sidekick , Raynor.

But that "fcuking foul-mouthed cnut" has a habit of winning far more football matches than he loses.

But so what, let's stick with a loser like Ardley because he's a nice guy.

[jscarr]

Steve Evans is pretty good at recruiting & motivating, average tactically. He'd probably get us up and then walk out for another club, then end up in the same kind of situation we're currently facing in the long run.

[Glad2BeAPie]

On what basis? Is it because you see genuine qualities in him, or is it because we can't keep sacking managers?

What qualities, haven't seen any yet

[legs77]

Steve Evans is pretty good at recruiting & motivating, average tactically. He'd probably get us up and then walk out for another club, then end up in the same kind of situation we're currently facing in the long run.

If offered that now i’d take that as would ALL of us.

Last 2 managers to get us promoted were both poached that’s what happens when you have success nobody was going to take Ardley Fullarton or Kiwomya off our hands were they, wonder why ?

[GranthamPie]

But that "fcuking foul-mouthed cnut" has a habit of winning far more football matches than he loses.

But so what, let's stick with a loser like Ardley because he's a nice guy.

Don’t like him... never have, but I’ll say this for Evans.... he doesn’t rely on scouts. I’ve seen him at many non league grounds over the years and he knows a good player when he sees one. Unfortunately, he also likes brown envelopes and blank cheques.

You pays your money... you takes your choice.

[navypie]

But that "fcuking foul-mouthed cnut" has a habit of winning far more football matches than he loses.

But so what, let's stick with a loser like Ardley because he's a nice guy.

Ardley isn't a nice guy, he's a ****ing football manager who tried his best with a bunch of wasters with dignity.

[Elite_Pie]

Ardley isn't a nice guy, he's a ****ing football manager who tried his best with a bunch of wasters with dignity.

In that case, 'trying his best' took us into non-league. If that was his best, I'd hate to see his f*cking worst.

[legs77]

Ardley isn't a nice guy, he's a ****ing football manager who tried his best with a bunch of wasters with dignity.

You win as a team and lose as a team the players have let the club down without doubt and so has Ardley he isn’t good enough he lacks drive and listening to him with ten games to go he was talking like he was on death row.

Hardy Players and Nolan/Ardley have to take the blame equally well more so Hardy but you get my drift.

[Big Bob]

These are 2 names I mentioned earlier but these are out of our reach if honest they will both get jobs in the league.

As for Evans he falls into the above category but I would take him in a flash over Ardley he isn’t very well liked but to be honest I couldn’t care less he wins football matches and that is all that SHOULD matter not having a nice guy loser like we currently have.

There'll be no dressing room split with Evans as he'll boot the lot out. Just what Notts need

[queenslandpie]

On what basis? Is it because you see genuine qualities in him, or is it because we can't keep sacking managers?

Elite you've made your point several times on here about Ardley. If the decision to retain Ardley is based on his results at Notts and his more recent results at Wimbledon then obviously it would be a resounding no from everyone. For me its stick with him:

We are undoubtedly about to go through a period of massive upheaval very soon. We will ( hopefully) have new owners, we will definatley see the back of the majority of the squad and I am sure there will be lots of other changes I have not even considered. In that period of change we must not change everything. Ardley has shown improvement since he arrived at the club in a truly dreadful period. He is probably the only person I can see who has shown me any glimmer of hope. Tactics have been negative for sure but the injury situation has improved, results have been a bit better and he has probably been the only satbilising force in what according to news reports has been a "poisonous atmosphere". Most importantly I genuinely believe unlike a lot of people associated with this club that he wants to be here. That wanting to be here will drive him on to do his best. Is his best good enough? Well who knows. He is definatley our best option at the moment. Its not to do with just sacking managers its to do with whats right for the club in what will be an intense period of change as we adjust to our new lowly position and I for one think he can be the glue. If anyone else mentions Steve Evans they need their mouth gaff taping.

[Freeman25]

Ardley got less out of the players than Nolan and Kewell did. Navy probably only likes him because he dropped Enzio (whereas the other two managers got him to perform). I'd rather Kewell or Nolan had another go than keep Ardley on seeing as we're still paying all three (unless Ardley's deal was only till the end of the season).

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Elite you've made your point several times on here about Ardley. If the decision to retain Ardley is based on his results at Notts and his more recent results at Wimbledon then obviously it would be a resounding no from everyone. For me its stick with him:

We are undoubtedly about to go through a period of massive upheaval very soon. We will ( hopefully) have new owners, we will definatley see the back of the majority of the squad and I am sure there will be lots of other changes I have not even considered. In that period of change we must not change everything. Ardley has shown improvement since he arrived at the club in a truly dreadful period. He is probably the only person I can see who has shown me any glimmer of hope. Tactics have been negative for sure but the injury situation has improved, results have been a bit better and he has probably been the only satbilising force in what according to news reports has been a "poisonous atmosphere". Most importantly I genuinely believe unlike a lot of people associated with this club that he wants to be here. That wanting to be here will drive him on to do his best. Is his best good enough? Well who knows. He is definatley our best option at the moment. Its not to do with just sacking managers its to do with whats right for the club in what will be an intense period of change as we adjust to our new lowly position and I for one think he can be the glue. If anyone else mentions Steve Evans they need their mouth gaff taping.

/\/\/\ I agree with every single word of this. I’m not disputing Neal Ardley has had a bad season as a manger at both Wimbledon and Notts nor is he above criticism. However it needs to be understood and realised the complete and utter mess and shambles that he came into.

The January and Summer of 2018 are the icebergs that ripped the hull in two and by December the water was flooding in at an alarming rate.

Neal Ardley brought in the likes of Rose, CMS, O’Brien, Stubbs, Doyle etc... who all have worked hard and improved us somewhat but sadly in the end we fell one win and a draw short.

He’s carried himself with dignity and class from day one throughout this awful season and is a well respected figure in football.

He has a promotion on his CV with Wimbledon in the football league from League Two and six years managerial experience at that level. I’d say he is an ideal candidate to give a chance to take us back to where we belong.

If we go and sack him now he will likely go and do the same as Mark Cooper did and go to another non league or League Two club and take them forward.

The only stability we have had is Neal Ardley. Let’s give him time and patience to build a team and club we can be proud of again

[McCullochisGod]

Are both between jobs I believe
Both taken teams up from non league and in Clarke' s case into L1
If Mr Ardley Is not retained, would either be a good option, if they would drop down ?

YES they are both between jobs because they failed. Lets get another Ardley in shall we?

[McCullochisGod]

Elite you've made your point several times on here about Ardley. If the decision to retain Ardley is based on his results at Notts and his more recent results at Wimbledon then obviously it would be a resounding no from everyone. For me its stick with him:

We are undoubtedly about to go through a period of massive upheaval very soon. We will ( hopefully) have new owners, we will definatley see the back of the majority of the squad and I am sure there will be lots of other changes I have not even considered. In that period of change we must not change everything. Ardley has shown improvement since he arrived at the club in a truly dreadful period. He is probably the only person I can see who has shown me any glimmer of hope. Tactics have been negative for sure but the injury situation has improved, results have been a bit better and he has probably been the only satbilising force in what according to news reports has been a "poisonous atmosphere". Most importantly I genuinely believe unlike a lot of people associated with this club that he wants to be here. That wanting to be here will drive him on to do his best. Is his best good enough? Well who knows. He is definatley our best option at the moment. Its not to do with just sacking managers its to do with whats right for the club in what will be an intense period of change as we adjust to our new lowly position and I for one think he can be the glue. If anyone else mentions Steve Evans they need their mouth gaff taping.

Don't you dare question Elite's Sunday morning footballing experience.

[McCullochisGod]

There'll be no dressing room split with Evans as he'll boot the lot out. Just what Notts need

Correct. There won't be a split because everyone will hate the fat T- -T.

[irishpete]

YES they are both between jobs because they failed. Lets get another Ardley in shall we?

Most Managers that are employed have failed/sacked.Thats just how this particular business works

[wiseoldmagpie]

Elite you've made your point several times on here about Ardley. If the decision to retain Ardley is based on his results at Notts and his more recent results at Wimbledon then obviously it would be a resounding no from everyone. For me its stick with him:

We are undoubtedly about to go through a period of massive upheaval very soon. We will ( hopefully) have new owners, we will definatley see the back of the majority of the squad and I am sure there will be lots of other changes I have not even considered. In that period of change we must not change everything. Ardley has shown improvement since he arrived at the club in a truly dreadful period. He is probably the only person I can see who has shown me any glimmer of hope. Tactics have been negative for sure but the injury situation has improved, results have been a bit better and he has probably been the only satbilising force in what according to news reports has been a "poisonous atmosphere". Most importantly I genuinely believe unlike a lot of people associated with this club that he wants to be here. That wanting to be here will drive him on to do his best. Is his best good enough? Well who knows. He is definatley our best option at the moment. Its not to do with just sacking managers its to do with whats right for the club in what will be an intense period of change as we adjust to our new lowly position and I for one think he can be the glue. If anyone else mentions Steve Evans they need their mouth gaff taping.

On balance I agree with QLP. The need for some stability in tumultuous times.

Also is QLP "H"? Some would say definately.

[McCullochisGod]

But that "fcuking foul-mouthed cnut" has a habit of winning far more football matches than he loses.

But so what, let's stick with a loser like Ardley because he's a nice guy.

Yes he does with a big budget, which we won't have.

[McCullochisGod]

Yes he does with a big budget, which we won't have.

I will add to that SHORT TERM....

[Stagnificent]

Steve Evans is a vile human being who will get you promoted from the conference first time round with a budget. It's whether you want to sell your soul as we did or risk him fudging off at the first hint of a bigger contract.

Clarke is a lifelong Stags fan and unlikely to join Notts. I believe he's holding out for the Mansfield job if Flicker gets the boot.

[optipez]

YES they are both between jobs because they failed. Lets get another Ardley in shall we?

Have you got a good word for anyone? Clarke did exceptionally well at Bristol and before that in non league at Salisbury.
Hurst until getting to Ipswich had done consistently well as a manager.
They aren't failures and they're certainly as good as we're likely to get.
You slag off posters, chairmen, managers , basically everything and everyone that you come across. Never any answers or suggestions though, just pointless criticism.
Get a life MIG, the bitterness is eating you up.

[Elite_Pie]

Don't you dare question Elite's Sunday morning footballing experience.

You never answered when I asked what your experiences in the game were on another thread. Don't be shy, tell us all.

I get what queenslandpie is saying, and I don't usually call for a manager to be sacked - Fullarton and McParland are the only two I can think of that I wanted rid of. It's just that Ardley has shown nothing to make me think he will turn things around. I realise he came into a very difficult job (as did Sol Campbell), but that doesn't excuse the dismal way he performed. The teams he sent out were clueless. There was no pattern of play, no organisation, no real fight or motivation, and minimal attacking threat. His management style seemed to be that a draw was a good result, when it was obvious to everyone that we needed wins. I would like to see him gone.

[sidders]

On balance I agree with QLP. The need for some stability in tumultuous times.

Also is QLP "H"? Some would say definately.

When I need an assistant, I'll ask for one ...

[bridpie78]

When I need an assistant, I'll ask for one ...

You wont ask, you'll tell ;D

[Davy500]

Maybe but steve evans wins matches, i couldnt give a rats arse if people like him

Evans has largely built the current mansfield side that would have been promoted last year , if evans had not jumped ship

I dont like Filtscroft he tries to take all the credit for a team Evans built. He failed last year to get the stags promoted, and he could fail again this year- wan..r

[ForeignLegion]

Maybe but steve evans wins matches, i couldnt give a rats arse if people like him

Evans has largely built the current mansfield side that would have been promoted last year , if evans had not jumped ship

I dont like Filtscroft he tries to take all the credit for a team Evans built. He failed last year to get the stags promoted, and he could fail again this year- wan..r


I would think that's a perfectly good reason to like him.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Maybe but steve evans wins matches, i couldnt give a rats arse if people like him

Evans has largely built the current mansfield side that would have been promoted last year , if evans had not jumped ship

I dont like Filtscroft he tries to take all the credit for a team Evans built. He failed last year to get the stags promoted, and he could fail again this year- wan..r

I agree, however the key sentence for me is ‘Evans had not jumped ship.’

Herein lies the problem. He would want a massive budget and would likely build a team but then as soon as a sniff of a better job came along him and his sidekick Raynor would be gone inside our first year and we would be left with instability again.

Whoever is manager needs three seasons unless we are in serious danger of being relegated out of the National League.

Besides I’ll always remember Evans phrase to Radio Nottingham in an interview where he said he wasn’t a League Two Manager which implied he was only at Mansfield to get them promoted at the first time of asking, or use a promotion with them as a stepping stone like Steve Cotteril did. It turned out as soon as the League One Peterborough job came available which was near where he lived he was gone .

Actually thinking about it Evans didn’t say he wasn’t a National League Manager did he. XD

[DelroyFacey22]

I couldn't give a toss if Evans left after getting us back into the league. That was Mansfield's mistake, thinking they could change him and expecting him to stay with them. The bloke is an arsehole, but he's very good at winning football games.

In an ideal world you want to keep whoever gets you out of the conference as more often than not the momentum can take you straight up again as the standard at the top of the conference is just as good as a lot of teams in League 2.

It's all hypothetical, nobody knows if we'd have enough money to tempt Evans to drop that far down the leagues again but it's unlikely he'd want to drop back down again after he already did so once with Mansfield to earn another shot higher up.

[BigFatPie]

You never answered when I asked what your experiences in the game were on another thread. Don't be shy, tell us all.

I get what queenslandpie is saying, and I don't usually call for a manager to be sacked - Fullarton and McParland are the only two I can think of that I wanted rid of. It's just that Ardley has shown nothing to make me think he will turn things around. I realise he came into a very difficult job (as did Sol Campbell), but that doesn't excuse the dismal way he performed. The teams he sent out were clueless. There was no pattern of play, no organisation, no real fight or motivation, and minimal attacking threat. His management style seemed to be that a draw was a good result, when it was obvious to everyone that we needed wins. I would like to see him gone.

It seems who the manager is going to be next season is the least of our problems, but I’m truly flummoxed by the amount of support Ardley has had. For those looking for “stability”, we ain’t got any, we’re hopefully getting new owners, and the squad will hopefully be undergoing drastic restructuring whoever’s in charge.

Never mind the inadequate job he did at Notts, the transformation Wimbledon underwent after he got sacked should make anyone think twice about employing him any longer than necessary. Add that to the zero experience he’s had in non league and it’s a definite “no” from me.

[queenslandpie]

It seems who the manager is going to be next season is the least of our problems, but I’m truly flummoxed by the amount of support Ardley has had. For those looking for “stability”, we ain’t got any, we’re hopefully getting new owners, and the squad will hopefully be undergoing drastic restructuring whoever’s in charge.

Never mind the inadequate job he did at Notts, the transformation Wimbledon underwent after he got sacked should make anyone think twice about employing him any longer than necessary. Add that to the zero experience he’s had in non league and it’s a definite “no” from me.

Somethings Notts fans are horrendous at getting is "be careful for what you wish for". We hounded out ray Trew and ended up with Alan Hardy just as an example. Sometimes its just better the devil you know. We are in a position of HUGE upheaval AGAIN. Ardley aint the best but he aint the worst either. Im happy to stick at the moment because whoever replaces him at this place would be a nutter. At least he appears to want to be here which is more than can be said for a lot of the players he didn't sign. I am happy to trust him for a while longer.

[Davy500]

I agree, however the key sentence for me is ‘Evans had not jumped ship.’

Herein lies the problem. He would want a massive budget and would likely build a team but then as soon as a sniff of a better job came along him and his sidekick Raynor would be gone inside our first year and we would be left with instability again.

Whoever is manager needs three seasons unless we are in serious danger of being relegated out of the National League.

Besides I’ll always remember Evans phrase to Radio Nottingham in an interview where he said he wasn’t a League Two Manager which implied he was only at Mansfield to get them promoted at the first time of asking, or use a promotion with them as a stepping stone like Steve Cotteril did. It turned out as soon as the League One Peterborough job came available which was near where he lived he was gone .

Actually thinking about it Evans didn’t say he wasn’t a National League Manager did he. XD

Yes Evans would build a good team for us, i am sure he would be manager if paid enough, as the new owners are not short of a penny

It depends how much an immediate return to the football league is worth to notts county

I agree that we do need to stick with whoever the manager will be for 2 to 3 seasons, unless danger of relegation from the national league

[irishpete]

It's worth everything.As seen by this season.One bad one & you are fcuked