FAO GarlickBread

[Altobelli]

I was just wondering as we are all Burnley supporters on here Garlick, if you came on this Forum for conversation and debate with posters who have different opinions than yourself, to share each others knowledge and differences and above all to have banter(fun).

Posters on here put down their thoughts and hopes, and others have the right to challenge them, but in a thoughtful and respectful manner, myself and a few others have noticed some disrespect bordering on aggression and abruptness in your posts, plus being like a dog with a bone in not letting things rest and agreeing to disagree, all of which makes some regulars on here reluctant to post as they usually would.

As you may know this Forum used to be the busiest site on FootyMad, and it could have been busier but it was run by the dictator Tony Scholes who with his inner circle would insult, belittle, ridicule, edit posts and ban people for any slightest abuse that came back in retaliation towards him or his clique, I'm happy to say those days are long gone and this board is all the better for it.

At the moment this message board is nowhere near as busy, but we pride ourselves on freedom of speech for all as long as its healthy and in good spirits with a give and take attitude, and we do welcome new posters who contribute to the Forum whether they agree or disagree with topics/subjects, but also show some respect to others and regular members, just like anyone would who visits someone's home and wants to return, they would be more considerate with their replies if they valued their own presence and wanted to belong and continue with healthy positive discussions, I do hope the latter part of this paragraph is why you are here Garlick.

[alfinyalcabo]

I wonder who Garlick really is..? Come on Garlick,who did you post as before?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

His opinions are welcome and valid, but like Alto says he is new to the forum and just needs to wind his neck in a tad. We must be doing something right on here because I can't remember the last time anyone was yellow or red carded? :D

How's the tarmacking going Alf? Which part of the UK is currently under threat from Bodgit and Scarper?O:)

[1959_60]

Well, I must have missed the posts that have offended you.

Garlick tends to be on the same page as me on most things - and I will certainly continue to speak my views.

Garlick, you can be my mate :)

[sinkov]

Well, I must have missed the posts that have offended you.

Garlick tends to be on the same page as me on most things - and I will certainly continue to speak my views.

Garlick, you can be my mate :)

Strange post that 59, if anyone has suggested that you, Garlick or anyone else will not be allowed to speak their views I must have missed it, please point me in the right direction.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Well, I must have missed the posts that have offended you.

Garlick tends to be on the same page as me on most things - and I will certainly continue to speak my views.

Garlick, you can be my mate :)

You could fall out in an empty house 1959_60. :(

[GarlickBread]

Well, I must have missed the posts that have offended you.

Garlick tends to be on the same page as me on most things - and I will certainly continue to speak my views.

Garlick, you can be my mate :)

Thanks 59/60, appreciate the support.


Strange post that 59, if anyone has suggested that you, Garlick or anyone else will not be allowed to speak their views I must have missed it, please point me in the right direction.

That's exactly what Alto is suggesting in his OP, it's basically a threat of a banning if I don't toe the party line.

Freedom of speech, my arse.

No need to ban me though, I won't bother posting again and will leave you lot to your negative echo chamber where fact-based discussion seems to be frowned upon.

I'd say that I hope you all enjoy the season, but I reckon most of you would only enjoy it if you're proved right and we're relegated

[1959_60]

I love this board. I enjoy the hearing the various opinions being put forward, sometimes in a blunt, direct way.

I'm struggling to see why Garlick has been singled out amongst the lot of us - in my opinion there are posters on here who are much more aggressive than Garlick, but I am happy for them to have their two penneth.

[1959_60]

Thanks 59/60, appreciate the support.



That's exactly what Alto is suggesting in his OP, it's basically a threat of a banning if I don't toe the party line.

Freedom of speech, my arse.

No need to ban me though, I won't bother posting again and will leave you lot to your negative echo chamber where fact-based discussion seems to be frowned upon.

I'd say that I hope you all enjoy the season, but I reckon most of you would only enjoy it if you're proved right and we're relegated

I understand your feelings Garlickand I'm on your side. If i were you I'd just continue as normal and ignore the thought police on here.

Well done lads.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I understand your feelings Garlickand I'm on your side. If i were you I'd just continue as normal and ignore the thought police on here.

Well done lads.

"Thought Police?" Please explain?

[1959_60]

Ask Garlick BT.

Whoops. That's not an option any more, is it?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Thanks 59/60, appreciate the support.



That's exactly what Alto is suggesting in his OP, it's basically a threat of a banning if I don't toe the party line.

Freedom of speech, my arse.

No need to ban me though, I won't bother posting again and will leave you lot to your negative echo chamber where fact-based discussion seems to be frowned upon.

I'd say that I hope you all enjoy the season, but I reckon most of you would only enjoy it if you're proved right and we're relegated

That's a shame GarlickBread. :blue: Unusually for me I found a lot of what you said I totally agreed with.

I'm not sure what got Alto's back up, but you trying to put sinkov right with empirical evidence is a complete waste of time. He's a former Accrington GSOB, and by heck they are always right! O:)

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

Ask Garlick BT.

Whoops. That's not an option any more, is it?

Chucking the toys out of the pram is for infants 1959_60. End of. :s

[1959_60]

Chucking the toys out of the pram is for infants 1959_60. End of. :s

If I went into a pub and was not made welcome I would bugger off and not go back BT.

[Altobelli]

If I went into a pub and was not made welcome I would bugger off and not go back BT.

By the same token if someone came into my home with the attitude of how Garlick conducted himself on here he would never be asked back 59.

I am viewing the Cricket at the moment but will address this after.

[1959_60]

Sorry Alto, I must have missed something.

I never saw anything that Garlick did which was as bad as some other stuff I have read on here.

What did I miss?

If it was the Drama Queen bit then all I can say is that you are hyper sensitive. I have been called worse but it really doesn't bother me at all.

[bfcjon]

Sorry Alto, I must have missed something.

I never saw anything that Garlick did which was as bad as some other stuff I have read on here.

What did I miss?

If it was the Drama Queen bit then all I can say is that you are hyper sensitive. I have been called worse but it really doesn't bother me at all.

Sub is that you??
Welcome back,...... >;)

[1959_60]

Sub is that you??
Welcome back,...... >;)

Drama Queen! XD

[sinkov]

That's a shame GarlickBread. :blue: Unusually for me I found a lot of what you said I totally agreed with.

I'm not sure what got Alto's back up, but you trying to put sinkov right with empirical evidence is a complete waste of time. He's a former Accrington GSOB, and by heck they are always right! O:)

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Just on that BT, in the context of a currency that has been over 1.60, even 1.15 qualifies as 'around 1.10' imo, Garlick chose not to agree and went to great lengths, posting graph after graph after graph after graph in attempt to prove me wrong. Well he's entitled to do that and I'm often wrong, but I just couldn't be bothering with such pedantry, I've better things to do with my time than argue obscure points with obsessives like Garlick.

Anyway, it seems like Garlick has got this forum at each others throats, which always happens when posters like him are around, in fact it often seems their aim. It survived well enough before he arrived, it will survive well enough now he's gone, and it tells you all you need to know that he found it impossible to comply with a simple request to be polite and respectful of other poster's views. It takes some doing to get banned off this site, and while Garlick hasn't been banned, it seems he jumped before what he knew was the inevitable push arrived.

[sinkov]

I wonder who Garlick really is..? Come on Garlick,who did you post as before?

You know him well enough Alfie, just think back. You might also ask him, besides who he has posted as previously, just how many forums he's been banned off now.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Onwards and forwards chaps and chapesses! :D

[Altobelli]

Garlic, If you cannot read, digest and understand my OP without coming back with complete drivel, then its probably best you not bothering to post again.

But just to make sure you understand because you seem not to grasp the basic stuff in my post:

For you to surmise that my post was/is a threat of banning you if you did not toe the "party line" is a bit premature, juvenile and lame as a duck's backside, there is no party line here, asking you to be more civil and polite is not telling you to toe anything.

"Freedom of Speech, my arse" You have not had any posts removed or edited, Again you have just been asked why you are here and if you value your own input along with other boards members, because some of your posts are less than appealing to me and others which could suggest otherwise, also as said in the OP you would not have been given the benefit of this thread to which you have taken umbridge, which seems strange and as far as I'm concerned could be seen as the act of a troll, but I'll leave that for others to decide.

As for your "Negative Echo Chamber" and "I reckon most of you would only enjoy it if you're proved right and we're relegated" statements, poor as those statements are, its a message board for different views, something you apparently still don't understand what a message board is for.

In short, Message boards are for debate, discussion's, different views and fun, regardless of anyone having different opinions with anyone else, plus posters are supposed to add life to a Forum and contribute with some value, I have not seen much real value in your contributions Garlick, in fact myself and others have noticed a similarity of an old poster on the Longside Forum a while ago who sucked the life out of that Forum and deterred other posters from posting, whether or not you are the same person is irrelevant as we don't want or need any of that here.

I think I have given you a fair crack of the whip, unfortunately you have chosen to retort in a similar way in which you used to post.

Sorry to go on about it for so long, but I like to make myself understood to those who apply spin to my comments or find obvious sentences a bit difficult to comprehend.

[Attilla]

XDXD You are a funny guy , I think you actually take yourself serious

[Acido]

Goodness me lads, whats going on here, its like a warzone on here (again). :P

Did this Garlic bread character used to be called Cheese cake as well by any chance ?. ;D
(just a Peter Kay joke/reference there for you all of course)

[sinkov]

XDXD You are a funny guy , I think you actually take yourself serious

Don't you start on GarlickBread now, there are enough on his case as it is.

[Attilla]

Nothing to start on Garlickbread for brother as he is a good poster in my book , Altobeli is the funny fella.

[sinkov]

as he is a good poster in my book

Was.

Just my little tribute to Garlick, he was a stickler for accuracy.

[Attilla]

Glad we agree;D

[sinkov]

Always good to agree Attilla, especially with Garlick, or it could, and would, drag on for ever, and ever, and ever, and ever, until you got bored witless and gave up to it. There was no chance you'd have the last word, ever.

[Attilla]

Agreed

[alfinyalcabo]

Ah well another one bites the dust ..

[Acido]

Ah well another one bites the dust ..

Theres our uncle Alf doing his Freddy/Queen impression of the song 'Another one bites the dust'.
I'll give him 3 out of 10 for that dire phoned in Burnsley style performance. ;D

[Altobelli]

XDXD You are a funny guy , I think you actually take yourself serious

As is your right, you can think what you want Attilla, but when fellow posters believe someone is sucking the life out of the Forum they need to be advised, and even after that they still act dumb and feel they have been hard done by, they need it spelled out.

Talking of Spelling and our uncle Alf, I'd give him 2 out of 10 for neglecting his Spelling/Grammar duties in not pulling up at least 2 of your posts Attilla http://i65.tinypic.com/xb03mu.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/11v5n4o.jpg

[Acido]

Hey Alto, I like the fact that you call him 'our uncle Alf' as well as I do lol.
Although I dont think Mr Alf himslef will be happy with what we're saying!. ;D

[Attilla]

And that is your opinion on Garlickbread's posts Altobeli , me well i'm 0f the opposite as I think he posts constructive and sensible posts.
Its funny how you can talk about freedom of speech then try to recommend how a poster should post , I mean come on fella you do come across as the chairman of the Victor Meldrew appreciation society.
Me i'm fine as its all sticks and stones , like my postings or dislike them , inclusive of poor Spelling/Grammar , I really couldnt give a hoot to be honest.

[Altobelli]

Not just my opinion Attilla, and like Garlick you seem to need to split hairs with saying I told him how to post, which I didn't, asking if someone could be more civil and polite is not recommending how a person posts, its asking them to be respectful, surely your own parents taught you that Attilla ?

I may come across as Victor Meldrew, but unlike you I try and keep the board free from aggravation, constant threatening abuse and Trolls which I don't do with just my own say so, I take in other folks views as I have done with Garlick, if I didn't then it would probably return to carnage like the old days with Carrot Phoney in charge, and I'm sure valid regular posters don't want that.

Like me, you are a sticks and stones man and you don't give a hoot, so I take it my laughing smilie and wink as I mentioned spelling/grammar went whooooosh over your head ? .. . . . . . Look at the pair of us Attilla, Sinkov was right, folk like Garlick are Trolls and probably get off causing havoc and disagreements between posters on Forums, just like many constantly do on Facebook and the rest of the sordid part of social media, some like you and 59 liked Garlick and some didn't, I cannot help that, I have to do what is good for the Forum and its users whether it goes against what I personally want or not, other than that I really couldn't give a rats arse what anyone thinks of me or things they find to disagree with me on, as long as its done in a well-mannered constructive way.

[Attilla]

Hilarious , you have yourself down as some sort of messageboard messiah whose only opinion matters, which is'nt much unlike the exprevious messageboard massiah.
Garlickbread was no troll , he posted constructive posts with reasoning opinions but wasn't welcomed as he didnt tow the negative populas veiw of this messageboard which borders on hatred at times.
He could argue his corner without being , rude or threatening and just gave as good as he got and i'm sure many on here would come forward to admit they had no problem with his postings .
Maybe you could troll through your owns posts and it might dawn on you that you come across with demeaning , mocking undertones to many posters , especially the new ones but hey ho , you stopped him wanting to to post now so i'm sure you will see that as a success .

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I think it's about time to close this thread, the negative vibes are doing my head in, a new season awaits - rejoice!

http://www.footymad.com/burnley/news/tmnw/a_new_season_awaits_935613/index.shtml

[Attilla]

Its just people expressing veiws BT , its no big deal reallyO:)

[1959_60]

Well said Attila, my views exactly.

Strangely, Garlick, yourself and me are pretty much on the same page on being positive about the way our club is being run and on Brexit. We obviously annoy some people with our views.

Am I going to change my tune? No I'm not. Even though sometimes I'm in a minority of one on here.
Sometimes there is borderline racism on here (I'll not name names) which seems to be allowed and I don't like it. But I accept that free speech is important on a forum like this so I tend to ignore it.
I have seen Supersub being criticised for being too positive which I find incredible.
But I am willing to accept everyones views, warts and all.

[Altobelli]

No worries BT, I have tried to spell it out (again), it is not my problem if Attilla still cannot understand all that has been said by myself and others and takes issue with me or the way Garlick was treated, its his problem.

And if he wants to continue like a dog with a bone (just like Garlick did) then by all means let him carry on, as he states "Its just people expressing veiws BT , its no big deal really " But like Garlicks posts, its seemingly trying to score points, which adds nothing to the board, is pointless and brings down the tone, so continue fishing Attilla, But after trying to explain (which you wouldn't get with Carrot Phoney) this one has stopped biting.

[Attilla]

Good , I prefer you when you are quiet to be fair .
BT , I will refrain from conversating with Altobeli as his agenda just seems to be its his way or no way , as he's never wrong like the previous editor.
I tried to point out that he's not the messiah he thinks he is , but he does'nt get it and that's his problem.
No biting for me.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Good , I prefer you when you are quiet to be fair .
BT , I will refrain from conversating with Altobeli as his agenda just seems to be its his way or no way , as he's never wrong like the previous editor.
I tried to point out that he's not the messiah he thinks he is , but he does'nt get it and that's his problem.
No biting for me.

We have a deliberately absent editor on here Attilla, you will see the odd editorial reference to TEC (The Editor's Chair), but we run this site with only two moderators. No Billy Big Bollox on here, if Alto thinks an odd word here and there is needed to keep the ship steady, that's fine with me.

Best to just post and enjoy the banter, no name calling ( I phucking hate that and it is NOT tolerated on here), all opinions are valid, but IMHO there is a time to stop flogging a dead horse and that is what this rather small storm in a rather small teacup is really all about. :blue:

[alfinyalcabo]

I love this forum,we all get on soooo well.. Come back Garlick and keep posting along with Attila etc..

And yes 59/60, I do come across as a bit of a racist at times,but I couldn't give a flying phook.. :D

[HeidyClaret]

I'm with Attilla and 69 on this one, only problem with free speech on this forum seems to be on any posters being positive about the club, apparently that's trolling

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I'm with Attilla and 69 on this one, only problem with free speech on this forum seems to be on any posters being positive about the club, apparently that's trolling

Count me in as one of your "trolls" then HeidyC. I like how our Board operates, I like how Mike Garlick goes about safeguarding our football club, Rigg has obviously joined the kick in and we will not be relegated. XD

[sinkov]

Just a few observations on this latest storm in a teacup.

First of all Garlickbread has not been banned, he threw his toys out of the pram and flounced off, making the bizarre claim that he was being denied his right to free speech, and yet it's Alto who gets accused of taking himself too seriously.

There are two Mods on this board, Alto and BT, and it couldn't exist without them, if anyone is unhappy with the way they operate I'm sure any offers of assistance would be appreciated by both of them.

Looking back over the last 150 threads started on CM in the last three months or so, there have been 25 different posters contributing, 5 of them have contributions in double figures, another 4 between 5 and 9 contributions, These 25 posters are the lifeblood of this forum, they put up their opinions for discussion and argument, they have to be prepared to be argued with, told they're wrong and sometimes laughed at, it goes with the territory, but they are prepared to put their heads above the parapet and be shot at.

Garlickbread isn't amongst those 25, as far as I can tell, and I stand to be corrected, he hasn't made one single contribution since he suddenly arrived out of the blue on this forum, all he has done is lurk in the background and snipe at the contributions of others. Which of course he is perfectly entitled to do, but I fail to see how this makes him a 'good poster', in my opinion he's nothing of the sort, he simply exists on the backs of those that do attempt to make a positive contribution to the board.

If no one was prepared to put the time and effort into modding this board that Alto does, it couldn't exist, if we were all 'good posters' like Garlickbread, simply sitting back sniping and contributing nothing, it wouldn't exist.

[frantastic51]

Mrng guys, just thought I'd chip in at the end of this thread from a chapesses point of view!

I'm all for healthy banter it's what makes the world go round and by and large that's what we have on here. I've not been posting on here very long, but have been reading the Forum for some time now. Sometimes it gets a bit near the knuckle from a female perspective, but having spent a good deal of my life around chaps, both in the working environment and fell runners it's not as though I haven't heard it all before. It is good that we have people keeping an eye on posts and they do a good job by and large.

Anyway, the ONE thing we all have in common is our love of Burnley despite our differences in other camps.
Here's to more banter, more laughs (and there have been many) and good will to all men (and women).

C'mon you Clarets.!!

[sinkov]

Mrng guys, just thought I'd chip in at the end of this thread from a chapesses point of view!

I'm all for healthy banter it's what makes the world go round and by and large that's what we have on here. I've not been posting on here very long, but have been reading the Forum for some time now. Sometimes it gets a bit near the knuckle from a female perspective, but having spent a good deal of my life around chaps, both in the working environment and fell runners it's not as though I haven't heard it all before. It is good that we have people keeping an eye on posts and they do a good job by and large.

Anyway, the ONE thing we all have in common is our love of Burnley despite our differences in other camps.
Here's to more banter, more laughs (and there have been many) and good will to all men (and women).

C'mon you Clarets.!!

Reminds me of when I worked at Nelson Fire Station Fran, we had a female cook, her standard greeting to me when I walked into her kitchen first thing in the morning was 'What's the matter with you, you f*****g w****r' to which she received a suitable reply. I don't think it could happen nowadays.>;)