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VillaRosie
31-08-2019, 01:14 PM
Cahill and Ayew in the Palace starting lineup with Benteke on the bench. Fingers crossed no heroics from these former Villans.



Lineup:-

1Heaton
24Guilbert
22Engels
40Mings
3Taylor
7McGinn
6Douglas Luiz
10Grealish
23Jota
9Wesley
17Trézéguet



Substitutes
8Lansbury
12Steer
14Hourihane
15Konsa
21El Ghazi
27El Mohamady
39Davis

VillaRosie
31-08-2019, 03:36 PM
😦😩

mondaze
31-08-2019, 03:57 PM
Same old premier league refs... Absolute disgrace! He should be sacked

VillaRosie
31-08-2019, 04:00 PM
Why didn’t he use VAR to check. 🤬

TrianonDave
31-08-2019, 04:35 PM
A major decision, penalty, dive or Goal. Youcannot ignore VAR, its there to stop these errors!
Im mad because it should have been a penalty and 2nd, im mD cos it cost me £390 on my accumulator!!

Palmeras
31-08-2019, 07:37 PM
Greasy jack is a diving cheat it back fired on him today he got away with it at wba I'm so pleased

picasso
31-08-2019, 08:35 PM
I’m mad for a couple of reasons - firstly it cost Villa a point and secondly it cost my Fantasy team a point for Jack’s booking not to mention the two I would have got for an assist.

I would have been madder had we deserved something from the game.

TrianonDave
31-08-2019, 09:14 PM
Greasy jack is a diving cheat it back fired on him today he got away with it at wba I'm so pleased
Just cannot help yourself with this obsession of yours! I hope your neck hurts looking up you dunderhead and of course this is the same diving cheat your knuckle dragging thugs put out the game for 3 months, what a knob you are.

westcountryvillain
31-08-2019, 09:49 PM
Greasy jack is a diving cheat it back fired on him today he got away with it at wba I'm so pleased

You really are a one eyed twerp, look at the footage and Cahill's theatrics whilst you're there - no VAR, it's a disgrace whichever team you support and that ref has form.

Palmeras
31-08-2019, 10:20 PM
You really are a one eyed twerp, look at the footage and Cahill's theatrics whilst you're there - no VAR, it's a disgrace whichever team you support and that ref has form.

It was the right decision didn't need VAR the referee was spot on he's a cheat

birminghamborn
31-08-2019, 10:31 PM
Stalker

ozfan
01-09-2019, 03:22 AM
It's just a bitter baggie. A blind bitter baggie too. Watch the replay. Don't look at the feet. Look where GC knee connects with JG. Goal should have stood.

Anyone know why the VAR wasn't used? Commentator said they'll go to the VAR but then nothing? I'm figuring it's because Cahill's foul on Jack was outside the box.

Ok found this from the Telegraph "The Premier League later clarified that VAR checked Friend’s decision to book Grealish in case the referee should have awarded a penalty rather than a free-kick against the Villa player. However, VAR was not used to rule on the goal itself as the whistle had been blown before the ball hit the net.

I've watched 20 replays front view back view and each time there is Cahill's upper leg getting in the way. Not his foot which seems to be the focus.

Besides that. We will struggle to get points if we keep giving the bloody ball away. Lost count of how many times we carelessly gave away possession.

Thought we looked better 2nd half showed some backbone after the sending off. I liked that DS went looking for a goal instead of closing the shop. Not at our best today but on we go.

TrianonDave
01-09-2019, 07:26 AM
I think maybe, smith should drop the 2 wingers away from home? Ive said it before, play the extra midfielder possibly Hourihane and push Jack forward.
The jealous and envious lot will always say Jack dived or dives, the main thing in that last exchange was that grealish passed the ball, he did not go down claiming a penalty. If people like the bitter baggy think Jack dived then why did Cahill colapse to the floor holding his knee, it was in my book a penalty, the ref blew too quick and made a big mistake. If Jack got booked for simulation then so should Cahill.
By all respects you make your own luck, we have had little so far but that performance was not good enough. Two wingers is a luxury.
We need to get back to looking for 3 pts at home and 1 away from home, make it difficult for the home team. We need some luck but cannot rely on it.
The Int'l break has come up at a good time Time to recess and review the first 4 games. Had we got that deserved point at home v Bournemouth, you could have said decent start but unfortunately its going the way our critics forcast.
Get some points on the board, we need at least 7pts from the next 6 games to be on track for survival. I dont think thats too much to ask for?

Exiledvillan
01-09-2019, 08:28 AM
Agreed with all of the above. The main point for me was the incompetence of this extremely poor ref. VAR for me is a waste of time, no such thing as perfect in sport. But, if we are to have the technology, we must use it correctly. As for the blowing of a whistle ruling out VAR? The whistle should have been blown at the end of the run of play, for suspected simulation. Especially when there was no claim for a foul. What happens when the ref gives a penalty? He blows and VAR checks, same with goals, red cards etc.

Var was brought in to eradicate huge bloopers by refs, and yet how many refs have had decisions reversed by their buddies out at Burton? VAR checks post-goal anyway, incredible incompetence by the ref. VAR is plainly, jobs for the boys? A retirement home for sh1t refs, keeping them on the payroll?

However, we lost today cos of human error. The ref was very poor, we were poor, from selection to performances, especially their goal. It happens from time to time, and we soldier on, no panic. Dust ourselves down and tear into West Ham on the 16th.

Now, be nice to our little obsessive imbecile from the swamps. His own board won’t play with him as he has long been ostracised by those over there. He/she/it has every right to post nonsense from some seedy, darkened, little squat. It’s not offensive, relevant or even funny. Care in the community folks, be kind, empathetic and stay classy.

dazzyowen
01-09-2019, 09:35 AM
Joke of a decision at end and something needs looking at for sure..

As for the game in general thought we wasn’t pretty poor tbh and jack needs to be playing further forward as when we went a goal down he was surging forward taking players on etc yet before that at times he was walking over half way line..

Jota should have stayed on but guess he would have done if trez hadn’t been sent off (he was poor) and Davis looked lively and chased everything which sadly wes didn’t do..

Positive we showed some resilience at the back but need to learn quickly as we’ll get slaughtered by city n pool etc

Anyway onwards and upwards

samhubball
02-09-2019, 10:15 AM
VAR won't be useful until the current group of referees retire. The reason is their egos. It has been a long time that referees have had to deal with lack of respect from players and those refs now have to put up a hard exterior and probably feel like they have to back themselves. Funny thing is that VAR would and should stop any arguments from players. But for the FA to say it couldn't be used because the whistle had gone is absurd.

mondaze
02-09-2019, 10:28 AM
I've seen a lot of reports saying how we didn't play very well, I think this is absurd. We were severely curtailed in our play by the referee booking four of our players for only one foul each. In that time their were six fouls by Palace, and not one of their players were booked. Clearly, this is inconsistent refereeing at best, sinister foul play if your of a conspiratorial bent... We played well under the circumstances, given that we were down to ten men from the 58th minute. We defended solidly, and their goal only came about by two flukey ricochets giving Ayew back the ball. We were robbed of an equaliser because the charlatan, sorry, referee, invented a situation which didn't exist in the real world... seriously friend seek psychiatric help.

TrianonDave
02-09-2019, 01:02 PM
Its a big talking point but im sure over the season we will get one back. Monday and still its the talk of the town with players fans and ex referees and especially with the Tesco tearaways on the Boggy board, their really upset by the fact Jack Dived!! Yes dived but whats their beef, ive been on their board to add my sensible comments but strangely enough keep getting pasted with 'get off here' etc. Its alright for the inbreds to come on here to talk about something that happened in a completely different league which has no affect on them! I wonder why, do you think they might be a tad......OBSESSED with ASTON VILLA. haha, clowns! They have really got us under there skin, I thought small heath was the local rivalry but it seems not. Anyone want to tell them our local Derby this season is v Wolves, i think they may still be in denial...

dazzyowen
02-09-2019, 01:12 PM
Read today from an ex ref saying how bad a decision it was and that the new rules for refs is to let play go on for a bit etc.. does make you think he really didn’t want us getting anything out of the game 😱

Palmeras
03-09-2019, 09:25 AM
Read today from an ex ref saying how bad a decision it was and that the new rules for refs is to let play go on for a bit etc.. does make you think he really didn’t want us getting anything out of the game 😱

Greasy jacks still a cheat the refs have him sussed

TrianonDave
03-09-2019, 12:55 PM
Keep looking up baggy boy!

bongosdad
03-09-2019, 02:24 PM
But would walk into your team

freer
03-09-2019, 04:35 PM
[QUOTE=Palmeras;39316255]Greasy jacks still a cheat the refs have him sussed[/QUOT E]

Mwahahahaha.......bit rich from a bozo who’s just “sussed” out how to peel a banana with his feet!

westcountryvillain
03-09-2019, 05:40 PM
Greasy jacks still a cheat the refs have him sussed

Given that he stayed on his feet after a shove, got his pass away and had contact from Cahill who was nowhere near the ball & leapt to the turf I'd say not. He also got straight back to his feet and didn't appeal for a pen - the ref has dropped a clanger, and you my friend, are an a$$. Jog on

TrianonDave
03-09-2019, 06:28 PM
No point in trying to explain a situation to the brain dead, where referees and professional pundits all agree the ref had the whistle in his mouth a blew even before he hit the deck. We have numpties like bitter and twisted so called boggy fans imagining what they would like to see and actually believe it. Dilusional to say the least. They havnt got over Jack being chopped down by Gibbs in the semi at VP. Their biggest thread this week which had to be locked is Named Greasy Jack Cheating again....
As Bongo has said, boggy fans would have to have 3 cold showers a day IF he went to them, oh he would be the best thing since Cow Pies were invented!
Cheats are players like Rodrigez who score with their arms, hands, that Game Rod cheated was the same game Jack was taken out the game for 3 months but boggy fans still think he dived! I think the air is very thin over Sandwell as it affects their eyesight and ability to communicate!
Its quite funny, ive had a blast on their forum, im sure many a wife/ sister have been slapped in a drunken rage over some of my posts.
As I have said.....pointless talking to Dunderheads.

westcountryvillain
04-09-2019, 07:11 PM
I've seen your contributions on their board TD, to be fair I find the vast majority of them to be decent guys and their debates on other topics are interesting. Palmeras is an exception, just a wind-up merchant. Let's not get into anything personal or tasteless as it's pointless and just descends into bigger insults - should be able to have good banter with most of them.

TrianonDave
04-09-2019, 09:00 PM
Yes I know but for some reason they feel it is right to come on our forum spouting crap but im not allowed on theirs!
I will take it as it comes without getting too personal as you have said.
They are obsessed with us though, cant see why, there not in our league!