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[1959_60]

I presume that you have full access to world news over there in China? This COULD turn nasty and, from what I have seen, I would be considering leaving.
But you are actually there and I bet you have not noticed anything different to normal.

There does seem to be strong evidence of Muslims being "dealt with" and taking a hard line in Hong Kong.

Careful what you say in response!

Keep safe...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53463405

[barrie_burn]

Yes map where are you?We need you on this board not some Chinese board with a duster.

[alfinyalcabo]

Yes,come back Map,I'm missing our banter.

[map]

I am wondering is all those people that dismissed COVID -19 as "flu" have changed their opinion ?

[sinkov]

Hard to know map, we don't get told much in the UK, only what the government wants to tell us. Take out the over-80s, those with underlying conditions, those in Care Homes and it doesn't seem to have killed that many, some stats I've seen show that if you're under 40 you're more likely to die in a road traffic accident than from Covid.

A lot of people die from flu in this country, there was an epidemic around 2015, reckoned to have seen off 25-30,000, hardly anyone knew about it, it wasn't big news. Is Covid much worse, I honestly don't know.

[Supersub6]

Well said sinkov, nobody really knows what the hell is going on because, as usual, they only tell you what they want you to know.
This doesn't just apply in this country though because it is happening worldwide with lots of different opinions, conspiracy theories, coercion and anything else which fits the bill.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I am wondering is all those people that dismissed COVID -19 as "flu" have changed their opinion ?

You stay safe in China map, it's bloody awful over here. The towns with large Muslim communities are being targeted for the "treatment" now and lo and behold, none of the targeted areas are south of Watford. :confused:

[map]

Please believe me COVID-19 is much worse.

[1959_60]

Please believe me COVID-19 is much worse.

I think anyone with a brain cell can see that Map.

Even Boris and Donald are fully signed up members of the wear a mask brigade, after initially trying to tell us that Covid was no big deal.

Boris caught the bug and nearly died, and Donald told us it was only a bit of a cold. He said that anyone who wore a mask was making a political statement about him. Now, with cases in the US sky high, he is telling us to wear one to be patriotic. He has actually called off one of his major rallies in Florida because of the high number of cases there. Another leader, Bolsonaro, told us that it was "the sniffles" and practiced zero social distancing or any other precaution. then he caught it. Just look at the shocking number of cases in Brazil now.

The number of Covid deniers is now limited to people who believe it is a worldwide plot to control the masses. Some people STILL want to go down the herd immunity route. This would mean that around 50 million Brits would have to get the bug, and hope that this would make them immune in future. If 50 million actually contracted Covid, then at least 500,000 would die, and there would be no way on earth the NHS could cope.

Good to hear from you map.

[barrie_burn]

Yes map.All updates from China are very welcome.How's the new school?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I think anyone with a brain cell can see that Map.

Even Boris and Donald are fully signed up members of the wear a mask brigade, after initially trying to tell us that Covid was no big deal.

Boris caught the bug and nearly died, and Donald told us it was only a bit of a cold. He said that anyone who wore a mask was making a political statement about him. Now, with cases in the US sky high, he is telling us to wear one to be patriotic. He has actually called off one of his major rallies in Florida because of the high number of cases there. Another leader, Bolsonaro, told us that it was "the sniffles" and practiced zero social distancing or any other precaution. then he caught it. Just look at the shocking number of cases in Brazil now.

The number of Covid deniers is now limited to people who believe it is a worldwide plot to control the masses. Some people STILL want to go down the herd immunity route. This would mean that around 50 million Brits would have to get the bug, and hope that this would make them immune in future. If 50 million actually contracted Covid, then at least 500,000 would die, and there would be no way on earth the NHS could cope.

Good to hear from you map.

Flaky, fear inducing statistics, typical of the Lib Dems spread sheet and manifesto. Not buying into your bull-**** 59er. The next big news story will be Blow Job never had COVID-19. Trust me, I'm a socialist.

[1959_60]

Flaky, fear inducing statistics, typical of the Lib Dems spread sheet and manifesto. Not buying into your bull-**** 59er. The next big news story will be Blow Job never had COVID-19. Trust me, I'm a socialist.

Which statistics don't you accept BT?

For herd immunity to work then 80% of the population (around 52 million people) would have to catch Covid. So the death rate would be horrendous. How could the NHS cope with this?

And you may have been a socialist at one time, but your current views on stuff clearly indicate that you are anything but a socialist at the moment. :) Your views on how to handle Covid are much more extreme than Donald's current position, and probably on a par with Bolsonara of Brazil.

I'm not having a go here, you are entitled to your views, but they appear to me to be very right wing.O:)

[sinkov]

Social distancing works fine, most people were practising it before the government locked us down, the peak had passed and the numbers were falling before the lockdown could have had any effect. We've gone from thousands popping their clogs a week to a situation where 30/40 cases per 100,000 is now talked about as a catastrophe, requiring more lockdown, god knows why. And all this was done with sensible social-distancing and without the requirement to wear muzzles in shops.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Which statistics don't you accept BT?

For herd immunity to work then 80% of the population (around 52 million people) would have to catch Covid. So the death rate would be horrendous. How could the NHS cope with this?

And you may have been a socialist at one time, but your current views on stuff clearly indicate that you are anything but a socialist at the moment. :) Your views on how to handle Covid are much more extreme than Donald's current position, and probably on a par with Bolsonara of Brazil.

I'm not having a go here, you are entitled to your views, but they appear to me to be very right wing.O:)

I'm following the science 59er, but it is very conflicted.

On another thread and in congruence with sinkov, I have said no muzzles for me and God help anyone who comes within six feet of me, except the Child Bride of course. ;D

Back to politics 59er, a new socialist dawn is coming and I'm on the front row and ready.

[map]

I don't start at the new school until the summer holidays are over, August 12th. I've met the staff and some of the students and I think that I will be very happy here in Zhengzhou City, Henan Province :-).

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I don't start at the new school until the summer holidays are over, August 12th. I've met the staff and some of the students and I think that I will be very happy here in Zhengzhou City, Henan Province :-).

Good stuff map, you are doing a sterling job in trying to improve Anglo-Sino relations. :D

[barrie_burn]

I don't start at the new school until the summer holidays are over, August 12th. I've met the staff and some of the students and I think that I will be very happy here in Zhengzhou City, Henan Province :-).

I'll be on the grouse moors then but good luck and keep posting.

[map]

As requested, another post from me.....I've just been told that I will have to move to another apartment "this week or next" because I arrived here earlier than expected. Not a big problem apart from packing my belongings, re-registering, internet, etc.
I'll be ok, it's just a lot of hassle >:(

[Supersub6]

As requested, another post from me.....I've just been told that I will have to move to another apartment "this week or next" because I arrived here earlier than expected. Not a big problem apart from packing my belongings, re-registering, internet, etc.
I'll be ok, it's just a lot of hassle >:(

map--nobody said that life would be easy! When I was in the RAF I moved house 23 times in 23 years so if you want any tips ----don't ask! :P Really the best tip is ----don't move!!

[map]

I have no choice, I am used to it by now anyway. 11 years in China, being asked to move at very short notice.....you're correct, life isn't easy but it is certainly "interesting" :)

[Supersub6]

I have no choice, I am used to it by now anyway. 11 years in China, being asked to move at very short notice.....you're correct, life isn't easy but it is certainly "interesting" :)

Hope that the move goes OK. Life is never easy, however, as you say, it is always interesting even to people like me in their 74th year! You never stop learning!

[map]

I don'y think I'll reach such an age ! :)

[Supersub6]

I don'y think I'll reach such an age ! :)

It's only a number and it is attitude of mind that matters as long as you can stay reasonably fit and healthy.

[barrie_burn]

I don'y think I'll reach such an age ! :)

Don't say that,I'm the same age.

You going to stay there forever or are you contemplating coming back?

[map]

Don't say that,I'm the same age.

You going to stay there forever or are you contemplating coming back?

I hope to stay here forever, I have to desire at all to return to England or indeed Europe.
My biggest problem at the moment is, after moving here to Zhengzhou I have to re-apply for my work permit, residence permit and visa, but I have until Sept. 15th to sort that out.