The Euros thread

[stokearab]

This time, we're in it!

Been a while but finally a Euros or World Cup with some added interest.

This thread is for anything at all Euros related, great memories, predictions, trivia, Scotland related nonsense, videos, jokes, gossip and opinions.

If you have a second favourite here's your chance to say who and why.

Can Scotland get the results needed v the Czechs Croatia and Engerland to progress?
Or are we making up the numbers?

Who's in the side you don't rate. Is Shankland still better than Nisbet.
Batter away lads and lasses.

And if you don't follow Scotland it's not a problem you can still comment on the ABE bits.

C'mon Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🧡

[tHeArAb]

Heart says Scotland. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Wallet says France or Italy. 🇫🇷 💷 🇮🇹

[TerryTheTerror]

I run a Euro score predictor and my prediction is I'll be in the money in a few weeks. 🤔🤣

[stokearab]

In great news for Scotland Czecki and Croatia Engerland have been reduced to just 3 decent right backs. It's a start.

[TheFerryArab40]

I might fancy Germany for the Euros win.

If not then France or Spain would be my alternate choices.

I fancy Scotland to reach the last 16 with group victories over Czech Rep and Croatia but the inevitable loss to England.

Whatever the outcome for Scotland it is fantastic to see them back in a major Tournament after so many failures in qualifying.

[stokearab]

Our last warm up game before the Czechs is Sunday evening in Luxembourg. I hope Clarke keeps Andy and Tierney away from this one.

[GUNBOAT]

first of FN many mate,FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38s36lkzbH8&ab_channel=JaapdeKoning1JaapdeKoning1

[GUNBOAT]

Always there with my late father and my son FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGVCjf6B8c&ab_channel=fraz65fraz65

[JamesMcClean]

As always, I will be anxiously looking forward to that traditional moment when the camera cuts back to Ian Wright’s pus straight after Engerland have been knocked out. On penalties.XD

[GUNBOAT]

The B side to Easy Easy 1974 world cup song in West Germany but one of the best ever by the players.In Typical fashion we became the first side in the history of world football to go out undefeated,FACT.What an FN team though played the World Champions AFF the pitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H315ljcs3QE&ab_channel=GavinPaterson

[GUNBOAT]

Hope you are OK we this one Stokie Boy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDsYvtdJ0sE&ab_channel=RossCouttsRossCoutts

[GUNBOAT]

Never to be forgotten night in Paris,one of the best of my life FACT.OMG so proud to be a Scot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLjIg_q80CU&ab_channel=RossCouttsRossCoutts.

WATCH IT PLEASE. :heart::heart:

Wild mountain Thyme played in the background was played at my old man's funeral.

[stokearab]

The battle v Uruguay Mexico 86

Full match. United's Gough Narey and Sturrock all playing.

If you don't fancy watching the ful match it's worth it just to watch the referee's reaction to the Strachan tackle first minute.

https://youtu.be/ePXi0SiPLlM

[GUNBOAT]

1982 Narey v Brazil and Jimmy Hill with the toepoke but another brilliant world cup song,FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_qAyKtoUs4&ab_channel=GREATESTGOALSEVER


Only English commentators allowed to cover Scotland in 1982 for the EBC,FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmzDOqUdu8A&ab_channel=HannahMcLachlan


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/36327548

[GUNBOAT]

Have posted this clip before but the comments below it are worth a read,many by German's,FACT.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms6bCVSl1ag&ab_channel=msvd1902


Scotland shown more respect in two minutes from the Germans than its had for over 300 years of the so called equal union,FACT.

[GUNBOAT]

1974 World Cup official.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFhbOYcwbYU&ab_channel=DJJAZZYJNO1GUY

[stokearab]

I've seen quite a bit of Southampton this season and Stuart Armstrong has been really excellent for them. He rarely loses the ball, links play really well, creates space and danger around the box.
He's grown in confidence this season and is now bringing that level to his Scotland displays. The kind of player we've been missing for quite a while. He's looking hard to leave out.

[GUNBOAT]

I've seen quite a bit of Southampton this season and Stuart Armstrong has been really excellent for them. He rarely loses the ball, links play really well, creates space and danger around the box.
He's grown in confidence this season and is now bringing that level to his Scotland displays. The kind of player we've been missing for quite a while. He's looking hard to leave out.

No a bad result the other night mate Scotland reserves 2 Dutch first eleven 2.Armstrong brilliant as usual.

[GUNBOAT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1snKejIq_g&ab_channel=ScotlandNationalTeamScotlandNationalTea m

[GUNBOAT]

Loads and loads O hurt with The Ancient Nation,FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poB3TUCpCIw&ab_channel=SpoongeEditsSpoongeEdits

[GUNBOAT]

It will be sung in the country that gifted us The Cockney and Indian strains,FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32wDFCM7iSI&ab_channel=BaccaraVEVO


The original singers of course will be banned from performing cos they are EU citizens FACT.

[GUNBOAT]

Scotland at its very best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVQkdV4GwLc&ab_channel=CTmaniaCTmania

[GUNBOAT]

Scotland's song for Euro 96,i had tickets v The Dutch and the English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqU0u9v6U0I&ab_channel=sunonthewindow


Our fans were truly brilliant at Villa park and Wembley.

[GUNBOAT]

It does make a change from the stories coming out of Tannadice Stokie Boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb8AGuD2uOI&ab_channel=iMdReSSediNdEcAyiMdReSSediNdEcAy

Thanks for the original post mate as its given the Boat a licence to kill,FACT. :heart:

[JUSTaway]

My assesment of squads -

France - best strength, depth and talent, but descamps ultimate Conservative coach, Like playing with handbreak on, which disapointing gives the talent available to them.

Germany - tough group, on downward Curve, gone stale, manager should have moved on.

Dutch - lack goals

Belgium - hope they win, great football, strong squad

Portugal - terrible last Euros, think they won one Game in 90 mins, still won tournament. Some cracking talent this time, Def can win if they get out group.

Italy - think they will do Well, maybe semis, mancini picked them up after missing last wc, willl be keen to make their mark

Spain - not sure, technically Superb, but no wc strikers, been pretty underwhelming since they piggbacked on Barcelona iniesta/Xavi Magić. Quarters

England - home advantage gives them a chance of Getting far

Scotland - have a chance of Getting to second round, lot Riding on first Game against czechs though

[darrenshedtastic]

For me....

The faves
France and Belgium probably have the best squads. Best overall Balance within the squad.

Will be there or there abouts.
Portugal- Good Squad and managed to win it before so you never know.
Spain- Not lived up to their glory spell 08/10/12 and struggled since. Think they will get far this time.
Germany- too many writing them off. Never rule out the germans.
England- Good attack but poor defence. Will probably get far but will struggle against better team


Outsiders
Holland and Italy- think these two will be glad to be at the competitions again after failing to make Russia. Their squads don't look as good as previous squads but reckon they could be decent enough. Both have a decent looking groups.

Dark horses
Croatia, Denmark, Switzerland. All capable of getting to the knock out rounds. With a bit of luck who knows.

Scotland?
Maybe sneak through the group but can't see us getting very far tbh.

[stokearab]

My assesment of squads -

France - best strength, depth and talent, but descamps ultimate Conservative coach, Like playing with handbreak on, which disapointing gives the talent available to them.

Germany - tough group, on downward Curve, gone stale, manager should have moved on.

Dutch - lack goals

Belgium - hope they win, great football, strong squad

Portugal - terrible last Euros, think they won one Game in 90 mins, still won tournament. Some cracking talent this time, Def can win if they get out group.

Italy - think they will do Well, maybe semis, mancini picked them up after missing last wc, willl be keen to make their mark

Spain - not sure, technically Superb, but no wc strikers, been pretty underwhelming since they piggbacked on Barcelona iniesta/Xavi Magić. Quarters

England - home advantage gives them a chance of Getting far

Scotland - have a chance of Getting to second round, lot Riding on first Game against czechs though

A very good assessment. Agree about Spain, a side in transition. Don't know much about Italy. As you say, be good to see France take that handbrake off.

A side I've always felt a bit underrated is Denmark. Not saying they can go far but in this tournament I don't see a nailed on winner.

It's going to be very interesting to see how the group games plan out just to get a better idea of strengths and weaknesses.

[Shedboy1971]

despite my lack of interest in national team i did watch the dutch game. Lots of supposed 2nd choices in there. well that bodes well as some of them were exceptional. Isnt armstrong a regular? if not why not he was good. Adams i like as i like dykes. Hendry ex dee looks a total class player if i take my shed shades off for a minute. win that first game and yes we could get into 2nd round. That would be exceptional.

[stokearab]

despite my lack of interest in national team i did watch the dutch game. Lots of supposed 2nd choices in there. well that bodes well as some of them were exceptional. Isnt armstrong a regular? if not why not he was good. Adams i like as i like dykes. Hendry ex dee looks a total class player if i take my shed shades off for a minute. win that first game and yes we could get into 2nd round. That would be exceptional.

The problem Stuart Armstrong had previously was a tendency to sometimes fade out of games, but in the last year he's got fitter, better, and being a regular starter at Southampton has really improved his confidence. (I think he lacked a bit of confidence when he first got selected for Scotland)
He's the type of player any side needs. A great engine, excellent temperament.
He'll cover defensive space, pick up loose balls, play it away, move into space, take it again and look to create. Rarely plays a bad pass. Also carries an attacking threat.

I'm not sure about Hendry. I thought we'd solved that problem with Gallacher but either something's gone on there or the manager just sees something better in Hendry.
He took his goal really well against the Dutch but was at fault for at least two of the goals in recent matches. Given he's started the last two games it looks like he's a starter v the Czechs. Personally I think he would be a liability at Wembley, I'd have Gallacher in there instead.

[Shedboy1971]

The problem Stuart Armstrong had previously was a tendency to sometimes fade out of games, but in the last year he's got fitter, better, and being a regular starter at Southampton has really improved his confidence. (I think he lacked a bit of confidence when he first got selected for Scotland)
He's the type of player any side needs. A great engine, excellent temperament.
He'll cover defensive space, pick up loose balls, play it away, move into space, take it again and look to create. Rarely plays a bad pass. Also carries an attacking threat.

I'm not sure about Hendry. I thought we'd solved that problem with Gallacher but either something's gone on there or the manager just sees something better in Hendry.
He took his goal really well against the Dutch but was at fault for at least two of the goals in recent matches. Given he's started the last two games it looks like he's a starter v the Czechs. Personally I think he would be a liability at Wembley, I'd have Gallacher in there instead.

thanks for that Stoke - i was serious that i had simply not watched scotland very much. I think hendry is an understudy and if needed looked decent.

I dont think hendry will start but who knows eh!

we have some good players Nisbet scored well there so happy for him to come off bench when required. Just dont think he is the finished article and from what i hear his head is full of being ballon D'or next season

[JUSTaway]

Tbh, even though Scotland are in these Euros, I thought 16 teams was the perfect format, you had the real top teams, and no room for error in the group stages, straight forward two teams through, quarters, semi, final. 24 teams is just a stupid number, highest placed third teams qualifying in groups of different quality is a bit of a lottery, and also the quality goes down, fair play to Northern Ireland for not just qualifying, but getting through the group stage last time, but there was a couple of games when all they could do was defend. Clearly federations like Scotland will vote for it as it was there best chance of qualifying for a tournament, and Uefa want more games/money.

[GUNBOAT]

Our opening opponents Czech Republic battered 4-0 by Italy tonight.The Italians looking very tasty.

[GUNBOAT]

Normally always do a few bets on the Euro's and the World Cup Stokie Boy.This is probably the hardest ever to predict though because of Covid and loads of teams playing at home rather than just the one or two host nations.
At the moment i am thinking France,Belgium or Italy but England could be at home for every match bar one but i could not bring myself to bet on them.

[GUNBOAT]

Good warm up games today involving teams in our group.

Luxembourg v Scotland 5PM

England v Romania 5PM

then a cracker

Belgium v Croatia 7.45PM.

[BackRowArab]

If you want any good tips for the Euros, you can look here https://www.betsoccer.ca/

[GUNBOAT]

If you want any good tips for the Euros, you can look here https://www.betsoccer.ca/

Thanks mate i will have a read later,the Wallchart is covering the fist hole in the Bedsit living area. XD

[stokearab]

Thanks mate i will have a read later,the Wallchart is covering the fist hole in the Bedsit living area. XD

😁😁😁😁

[stokearab]

Good warm up games today involving teams in our group.

Luxembourg v Scotland 5PM

England v Romania 5PM

then a cracker

Belgium v Croatia 7.45PM.

Looking forward to today's games. Gilmour set to start so we'll find out if he really is the second coming of Christ or just a decent young squad player.
Luxembourg are no pushovers whatsoever, much improved and even won in Dublin recently.
Hopefully rest Robertson and Tierney, need them both 100% fit rested and ready to go v the Czechs.

[stokearab]

Tbh, even though Scotland are in these Euros, I thought 16 teams was the perfect format, you had the real top teams, and no room for error in the group stages, straight forward two teams through, quarters, semi, final. 24 teams is just a stupid number, highest placed third teams qualifying in groups of different quality is a bit of a lottery, and also the quality goes down, fair play to Northern Ireland for not just qualifying, but getting through the group stage last time, but there was a couple of games when all they could do was defend. Clearly federations like Scotland will vote for it as it was there best chance of qualifying for a tournament, and Uefa want more games/money.

Agree with most of what you say but I'm happy to see more games and not just because I'm Scottish. The previous format made some early games very cagey and a bit boring as a result, I wonder if in this new format the so called lesser teams might be more open in the first and second games to try and get that all important 3 points.

I've not studied this new format, does it basically mean a win and a draw pretty much sees you through to knockout?

[GUNBOAT]

That boy Gilmour is a player eh?.We actually look like a half decent team but very wasteful in the opponents box tonight.It should have been at least 0-4.

[BackRowArab]

Pretty good for 19, will be insanely good at 26. Hopefully he starts next Monday.

Challenge on him should have been a red

[tHeArAb]

He's only in the team cos he's an ex-Hun though......eh Shedboy71? 😉😂

[stokearab]

Maybe it's a marker of how far we've come but I felt we were poor. Midfield not clicking there at all. Never opened them up through the middle and created clear cut chances, although tbf Gilmour did it for himself. As Backrow said that assault on him should have seen red.
I wonder if SC knows which CB's are starting in our first match.

Need to be a lot better but I think we will be.

[Shedboy1971]

He's only in the team cos he's an ex-Hun though......eh Shedboy71? ����

Nah he is quality and will get better. Because he plays for a premiership team is what i said but fair dos he is going to be our mainstay in years to come so why no give him a place in euros. You knew what i meant lol

[GUNBOAT]

Play it before Wembley,FACT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn3wZ2Buu2Y&ab_channel=Iain40Iain40

[GUNBOAT]

Here's a wee number for notso,Peter and British petroleum.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av2-A-igOJk&ab_channel=Iain40

[JUSTaway]

Gilmour was good, i could see him potentially replacing mcgregor over the tournament, McGregor coming off back of a Poor Season, not as good as our other attacking options in midfield, and not sure he is natural fit as defensive mid.

Winner/runner up in this group faces winner/runner up ger/france/Portugal. If you get 3rd highest runner up slot its potentially a kinder next round.

[Whitfieldarab]

Gilmour was good, i could see him potentially replacing mcgregor over the tournament, McGregor coming off back of a Poor Season, not as good as our other attacking options in midfield, and not sure he is natural fit as defensive mid.

Winner/runner up in this group faces winner/runner up ger/france/Portugal. If you get 3rd highest runner up slot its potentially a kinder next round.

I'd rather McGregor played than McTominay. McTominay is a poser.

[GUNBOAT]

Here is my story and yours of course.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF_BY40A7Ts&ab_channel=ScotlandNationalTeam

[GUNBOAT]

The Euro's and the World have missed this Stokie Boy,FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZs3Qd8kuOU&t=162s&ab_channel=DJJAZZYJNO1GUYDJJAZZYJNO1GUY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV4HAAaSV00&ab_channel=davidg1987davidg1987

[TheFerryArab40]

Well only a few days to go to this starts.

At least some live action to pass the summer time away till the League Cup starts.

Turkey v Italy on Friday.

MON THE EUROS 😊😊

[TerryTheTerror]

Well only a few days to go to this starts.

At least some live action to pass the summer time away till the League Cup starts.

Turkey v Italy on Friday.

MON THE EUROS 😊😊

Totally agree, can't wait. My sweepie is up to 46 folk now to do there will be good money on offer if I was any good at predicting scores. XD

[Shedboy1971]

cant wait - 1st game should be a good one as well.

I usually get every score and winner spot on tbh.....every game

My wallboard shows this as i put the scores up immediately after final whistle.

[tHeArAb]

Is it just England playing in this competition? Have had Sky Sports News on the last hour and it would seem they are the only team competing.

[Yeats 62]

Is it just England playing in this competition? Have had Sky Sports News on the last hour and it would seem they are the only team competing.

Obviously :D They win the section, draw we thirsel next match, beat thirsel in the quarters, in the semis, probably win that. In the final , lose to thirsel on penalties, it's amazin' how they manage it . XD

[GUNBOAT]

We are FAVS to finish bottom of our group and not qualify for the knockout stages,having now watched the Czech Republic twice there are frailities in defence and a Serbia away performance could see us getting something against them.
They did beat Albania at home 3-1 but that result flattered them,with better finishing it could have been 3-3.

[stokearab]

See Craig Brown today going all Ally McLeod ffs. We don't need that.

Watched France last night destroy their opposition in 2nd gear.

That France Germany match is going to be a cracker.

[ahlltanyirhide]

We are FAVS to finish bottom of our group and not qualify for the knockout stages,having now watched the Czech Republic twice there are frailities in defence and a Serbia away performance could see us getting something against them.
They did beat Albania at home 3-1 but that result flattered them,with better finishing it could have been 3-3.

Mon Scotland, intae thum 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[stokearab]

Mon Scotland, intae thum 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

My sentiments exactly.

We need big performances from every player that crosses the line but for me McGinn is especially important. If he plays well, we play well. OK usually.

I still worry about our weakness at RB, Clarke likes O'Donnell but to me he looks easily exposed, and good teams will. I'd put the young Hunner straight in if just for his pace.

[japanarab]

My sentiments exactly.

We need big performances from every player that crosses the line but for me McGinn is especially important. If he plays well, we play well. OK usually.

I still worry about our weakness at RB, Clarke likes O'Donnell but to me he looks easily exposed, and good teams will. I'd put the young Hunner straight in if just for his pace.
I reckon we’ve a fair chance of getting out the group. A very decent core to the team with Roberstson, Tierney, McTominay, Mcginn and Armstrong all showing up very well in “The best league in the world”. A bit lightweight up front but still quietly confident. If England get beaten by Croatia, which isn’t that unbelievable then they will be under huge pressure against us. Canna wait. I’m tipping the Italians to win it—won their last 10(?) without even conceding or something like that.

[GUNBOAT]

I reckon we’ve a fair chance of getting out the group. A very decent core to the team with Roberstson, Tierney, McTominay, Mcginn and Armstrong all showing up very well in “The best league in the world”. A bit lightweight up front but still quietly confident. If England get beaten by Croatia, which isn’t that unbelievable then they will be under huge pressure against us. Canna wait. I’m tipping the Italians to win it—won their last 10(?) without even conceding or something like that.

https://football-italia.net/mancini-closing-on-italy-record/

The above is now out of date JA,i think its now unbeaten in 27.I don't think they have played a France or Brazil strength of team though but still very impressive and this is an Italian team that attacks.

[GUNBOAT]

2/1 for Scotland on Monday is tempting,anything but a banker but certainly tempting.I think the opener between Italy and Turkey will be a cracker both teams in very good form.
The other two games Turkey play v Wales and the Swiss are in Baku and they reckon its a home game for the Turks as they get on very well with Azerbaijan and thousands will be allowed to travel to Baku.
More fans are allowed in their stadium than any other in the Euro's,i heard up to 31,000.Even if Turkey lose to Italy i still think they have a great chance of getting out of the group.

[Shedboy1971]

im now totally on this. France, Germany, Hungary, Portugal group is so intriguing as is ours. england could get to semis they also could implode. cant see them winning it. Germany and France but Spain still strong despite the unknown faces (4-0 win with u21 squad).

So happy we are back in it. I move house on 18th. im getting so pissed up watching the england game with unpacked boxes and a wife moaning at me. Hopefully a wee bj from her sis at half time though.

[sultan_of_arabia]

As an exile in Budapest I have tickets for all 4 games here in front of a full house of 60k+. So exciting to have football with fans again so roll on next season!

Scotland to make it through the group.

France, Belgium, Italy, Germany and maybe a few others could all win it so am exciting tournament ahead.

[Shedboy1971]

As an exile in Budapest I have tickets for all 4 games here in front of a full house of 60k+. So exciting to have football with fans again so roll on next season!

Scotland to make it through the group.

France, Belgium, Italy, Germany and maybe a few others could all win it so am exciting tournament ahead.

thats fantastic sultan. wow incredible to think reall. yes i think scotland can make it out of group and i also think england will underestimate us. I do think we will get beat in first game though as we have a tendancy of using wrong tactics. I blame the SFA

[Shedboy1971]

i dont think belgium can win it. players yes nation no

[sultan_of_arabia]

Yeah de bruyne and Lukaku critical if they are to do well.

Expect there to be one smaller team get to the semis though out of no where. Maybe even Scotland. You can dream :)

[JUSTaway]

Its a really Weird tournament as in some sides clearly have home advantage in Certain matches, so neutrallity of tournament not what it normally is, then there is Random possibility covid outbreak totally derailing some side.

[stokearab]

Its a really Weird tournament as in some sides clearly have home advantage in Certain matches, so neutrallity of tournament not what it normally is, then there is Random possibility covid outbreak totally derailing some side.

It definitely is weird, some sides at home and some sides miles away.

Think I read somewhere that in the very worst case scenario (officially known as VWCS) if the Engerland won it they would only have played one match away from Wembley. Now that can't be right. All they need is a dodgy Russian linesman and who knows.

[stokearab]

Yeah de bruyne and Lukaku critical if they are to do well.

Expect there to be one smaller team get to the semis though out of no where. Maybe even Scotland. You can dream :)

Not sure where they're up to with De Bruynes injury, doubt he will feature in the early games. Lukaku is a weapon of a striker when you have a side that creates so many chances but he can have his bad day like them all.

[stokearab]

thats fantastic sultan. wow incredible to think reall. yes i think scotland can make it out of group and i also think england will underestimate us. I do think we will get beat in first game though as we have a tendancy of using wrong tactics. I blame the SFA

Clarke has to get it right in that first game.
Team selection has to be bang on and every player needs to bring their A game.
Saying that I suspect a draw. But it's hard to predict any of the results in our group.

I hope Engerland do underestimate us. Hopefully Grealish picks up a bad knock beforehand.

[stokearab]

As an exile in Budapest I have tickets for all 4 games here in front of a full house of 60k+. So exciting to have football with fans again so roll on next season!

Scotland to make it through the group.

France, Belgium, Italy, Germany and maybe a few others could all win it so am exciting tournament ahead.

Great post Sultan, enjoy.

I'm waiting to see a couple of group games before nailing up my colours for the winner.

[Shedboy1971]

Clarke has to get it right in that first game.
Team selection has to be bang on and every player needs to bring their A game.
Saying that I suspect a draw. But it's hard to predict any of the results in our group.

I hope Engerland do underestimate us. Hopefully Grealish picks up a bad knock beforehand.

they will underestimate us. upto us how we react.

[TheFerryArab40]

So the opening game of the Euros between Turkey and Italy gets closer and I am hoping for a very decent opening game.

It should be a comfortable win for Italy and I will go for a 3-1 scoreline for them.

[ahlltanyirhide]

So the opening game of the Euros between Turkey and Italy gets closer and I am hoping for a very decent opening game.

It should be a comfortable win for Italy and I will go for a 3-1 scoreline for them.

By all accounts the Eyeties are very good at the moment and have won last 9 or 10 game, the Johnny Turks blow hot and cold so I predict a two’s up draw to get the competition underway

[BudMill90]

Goals goals goals please!

[GUNBOAT]

So the opening game of the Euros between Turkey and Italy gets closer and I am hoping for a very decent opening game.

It should be a comfortable win for Italy and I will go for a 3-1 scoreline for them.

Turkey took 4 points off the Favourites to qualify(France).I have backed Italy and Turkey EW and France to win it.I have also backed Scotland to beat the Czech Republic.

[ballumbie_arab]

Turkey took 4 points off the Favourites to qualify(France).I have backed Italy and Turkey EW and France to win it.I have also backed Scotland to beat the Czech Republic.

Lots of people hyping up Turkey, Gunboat, and thought they were poor tonight, but in saying that, thought Italy were really good; high press, high tempo, never gave Turkey a minute…

[GUNBOAT]

The EBC in our 'equal' Union have one Spaniard and three Englishmen on their panel tonight.Did i only dream that we qualified?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmzDOqUdu8A&ab_channel=HannahMcLachlan

[GUNBOAT]

EBC sports editor reports on the start of the Euro's tonight on the news,was it from Hampden?,Cardiff? nah it was from Wembley in London,its an equal Union though.

[TheFerryArab40]

I was very very impressed with the Italian performance tonight but if there was one small criticism it was they never scored more than 3.

Thought it was going to be a difficult opening game for the Turks but they were far worse than I thought the would be.

If Italy can be consistently that good then can they go all the way and win it who knows but it would not surprise me if they did.

[Dreamsof83]

Tournament has certainly started well. Enjoyed watching that. No doubt Italy have a quality team. Weren't tested though, interested to see their mentality and how they cope against better opposition.

Has to be said though, if Wales don't get out of that group they should be disappointed

[japanarab]

The EBC in our 'equal' Union have one Spaniard and three Englishmen on their panel tonight.Did i only dream that we qualified?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmzDOqUdu8A&ab_channel=HannahMcLachlan
As long as they've got an even quota of female and people of colour then they couldn't give a ferk about us. I listen to talksport most days and they've already won it--best generation ever etc etc. Did they not say the same about Beckham and co?

[stokearab]

I was very very impressed with the Italian performance tonight but if there was one small criticism it was they never scored more than 3.

Thought it was going to be a difficult opening game for the Turks but they were far worse than I thought the would be.

If Italy can be consistently that good then can they go all the way and win it who knows but it would not surprise me if they did.

Wouldn't surprise me either tbh. One of the things in their favour is they have a real passionate winner of a manager who'll keep them focused.

I think the winner will be Italy France or Belgium.
But you couldn't rule out Spain Portugal and Germany, so there's 5 or 6 teams capable imo which makes it very interesting.

C'mon Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🧡

[TheFerryArab40]

Some predictions for today's games.

Wales 1 Switzerland 0

Denmark 2 Finland 0

Belgium 4 Russia 1

Not that I have much joy in generally predicting exact scores 😂😂😂

[tHeArAb]

2-0 Switzerland
2-1 Denmark
2-1 Belgium

[stokearab]

Some predictions for today's games.

Wales 1 Switzerland 0

Denmark 2 Finland 0

Belgium 4 Russia 1

Not that I have much joy in generally predicting exact scores 😂😂😂

Switzerland 2 Wales 1
Denmark 2 Finland 0
Belgium 3 Russia 0
TWF 6 Le Fun 2

[stokearab]

Robbie Savage is an annoying d ickhead
Just felt better typing that out 😄

[JUSTaway]

Not very adventurous from Wales so far, seem content just to hit on break.

[cybershed]

Aye.

The Swiss are showing up fairly well. Loved the backheel reverse flick that was saved by Ward.

I expect Wales to step up a bit in 2nd half. They need to be in that last third far more often than they managed in 1st half.

[cybershed]

Good point in the end for Wales.

[stokearab]

Good point in the end for Wales.

Ljkuthnydthtyu fryothy reddyones
(Well played the Taffies)

[JUSTaway]

yeah they weren't very good, depending how group pans out they could potentially play an Italy side in last game that has already qualified and guaranteed top spot in group.

[stokearab]

Just seen Finland line up in dark blue so I'm hoping Denmark give them 5 😉

[TheFerryArab40]

Be interesting to see how Pukki gets on for Finland in this tournament.

Sure he has been decent in his time at Norwich but I dont remember him being that great in his spell at Celtic.

[BackRowArab]

Well, today shows that somethings are more important than a game of football

[Dave63]

Well, today shows that somethings are more important than a game of football

Definitely. So horrible and sad to see it

[ahlltanyirhide]

Definitely. So horrible and sad to see it

Very sad indeed, some player too

[JamesMcClean]

Great stuff- he’s certainly not out of the woods but they’ve managed to resuscitate him.

https://i.postimg.cc/g2MMnX6x/DE179474-CAD8-48-EE-A835-0-F7609-B9-E18-A.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Chick A Saw]

So happy to see that photo after what i was watching on TV.

[TangerineDream]

Very glad to see that photo, feared the worst. Horrible to witness that on TV never mind at the game. Feel for his team mates and Finnish lads.

Hope the boy pulls through ok.

[cybershed]

Yeah - heartening news that he's conscious and breathing. He'll be getting the best of care now he's in hospital.

Hopefully he will make a good recovery. But obviously a concern as regards what actually happened physiologically.

[GUNBOAT]

Denmark should never have agreed to play out the game today.A massive mistake by players who only a couple of hours before made a human shield around a team mate receiving CPR.

[GUNBOAT]

Its nearing that time in a tournament to batten doon the hatches troops


https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/england-wags-pass-covid-tests-24303689

[GUNBOAT]

Great memories,FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmabAnWvWwg&ab_channel=MarkofScotland82MarkofScotland82

[GUNBOAT]

Its so good its going up twice,FACT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqE1bb1daJM&ab_channel=JoshWoodwardJoshWoodward

[GUNBOAT]

C'mon my ancient nation !!!..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5HdGeQ9Rik&ab_channel=GROUNDLAND

[stokearab]

Commentator enjoys Engerland game Euro 2016

https://youtu.be/opd-r_VPu3A

[tijuanataxi]

Scotland forever.:heart:

[GUNBOAT]

Commentator enjoys Engerland game Euro 2016

https://youtu.be/opd-r_VPu3A

I will raise you with the country of Iceland that day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZzaAMaEYyA&ab_channel=oakcreektvoakcreektv

[GUNBOAT]

Back on topic with a classic live rendition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKvDh6mcI0o&ab_channel=BaccaraVEVOBaccaraVEVO

[JamesMcClean]

Commentator enjoys Engerland game Euro 2016

https://youtu.be/opd-r_VPu3A

That’s good, but surely this one is the best of all time!XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqZTP8-8wIs

[stokearab]

That’s good, but surely this one is the best of all time!XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqZTP8-8wIs

Pretty sure I watched that one live, quite enjoyable 😎

Big day today as the BBC ITV and SKY favourites for the tournament get underway.

Not sure what result suits us best at neutral Wembley but my predictions for today...

Worldbeaters 1 Croatia 2
Austria 2 Macedonia 0
Netherlands 2 Ukraine 0

[Acido]

Hey up Scotchy lads lol.

Am I pushing my luck ehh, by joining you as a guest here on your Euro's thread ?. :p

And this especially goes out to you Stokie, ohh yes Ive been reading your comments with interest matey. XD

[stokearab]

Hey up Scotchy lads lol.

Am I pushing my luck ehh, by joining you as a guest here on your Euro's thread ?. :p

And this especially goes out to you Stokie, ohh yes Ive been reading your comments with interest matey. XD

Hello Acido and welcome aboard!

Very welcome sir as I know you have a soft spot for us 👍

[GUNBOAT]

Hey up Scotchy lads lol.

Am I pushing my luck ehh, by joining you as a guest here on your Euro's thread ?. :p

And this especially goes out to you Stokie, ohh yes Ive been reading your comments with interest matey. XD

The tournament hasnie even started for the New Golden Generation and Gareth has already got the hammer oot.A right wing rag is predicting square pegs being hammered into round holes before a Ba has been kicked,even with an FN 26 man squad!.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9681283/Gareth-Southgate-DROP-Jack-Grealish-play-four-Kieran-Trippier-left-back.html?ito=push-notification&ci=235875&si=32661717&ai=9681283

[stokearab]

The tournament hasnie even started for the New Golden Generation and Gareth has already got the hammer oot.A right wing rag is predicting square pegs being hammered into round holes before a Ba has been kicked,even with an FN 26 man squad!.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9681283/Gareth-Southgate-DROP-Jack-Grealish-play-four-Kieran-Trippier-left-back.html?ito=push-notification&ci=235875&si=32661717&ai=9681283

Sky Sports news is reporting that some England fans are turning up at Wembley for today's game.

Unbelievable Jeff

[Acido]

Hello Acido and welcome aboard!
Very welcome sir as I know you have a soft spot for us 👍

Its nowt personal Stokie kid, its just business lol.. like in the Godfather. :D

Hey lads Im no Southgate lover, he annoys the hell out of me as an England fan. But I suppose I/we have still got to support him (within reason), ehh!!. :p

[stokearab]

Sky Sports news is reporting that some England fans are turning up at Wembley for today's game.

Unbelievable Jeff

Sky Sports news interview England's women goalkeeper, her advice to Jordan Pickford is to concentrate on keeping the ball out of the net.

You cannot make this up

[stokearab]

Its nowt personal Stokie kid, its just business lol.. like in the Godfather. :D

Hey lads Im no Southgate lover, he annoys the hell out of me as an England fan. But I suppose I/we have still got to support him (within reason), ehh!!. :p

We enjoy the banter Acido. England have some fantastic players, maybe too many if you get my meaning, if they click they'll be hard to beat.

[Acido]

Hey lads, we're all neutrals here aren't we lol.... what do we think about this Wales team ehh, scraping a draw against the mighty Schweisse!!. :D

[stokearab]

Hey lads, we're all neutrals here aren't we lol.... what do we think about this Wales team ehh, scraping a draw against the mighty Schweisse!!. :D

Thought they got out of jail. The watchmakers should have had them buried.
But a good result after a bad start. Turkey will be a tough gig for them in that stadium and the pressure is on because it's Italy in Rome to follow.

[GUNBOAT]

Hey lads, we're all neutrals here aren't we lol.... what do we think about this Wales team ehh, scraping a draw against the mighty Schweisse!!. :D

That's the difference between us and you though mate they really are the mighty Swiss in our eyes.

[GUNBOAT]

Thought Croatia started the match like a pub team but grew into it.The long ball is England's best asset against them.

[JUSTaway]

On that performance Croatia Are good at keeping the ball but toothless in final third.

[GUNBOAT]

On that performance Croatia Are good at keeping the ball but toothless in final third.

I think they were truly dreadful in the final third and they snatched at the few half chances they had.They really missed their retired striker Mario Mandzukic.
I do realise that both of these teams may beat Scotland but on today's showing there is nae Q outside the Bedsit's WC.

[stokearab]

I think they were truly dreadful in the final third and they snatched at the few half chances they had.They really missed their retired striker Mario Mandzukic.
I do realise that both of these teams may beat Scotland but on today's showing there is nae Q outside the Bedsit's WC.

Spot on. ^^^^

[Chick A Saw]

Did i just hear the bright spark that is Gary Neville say there was 65m English in the country supporting them today?

That aside, ITV seemed to have scraped the barrel with their pundits this time!

[tHeArAb]

Did i just hear the bright spark that is Gary Neville say there was 65m English in the country supporting them today?

That aside, ITV seemed to have scraped the barrel with their pundits this time!

Far better pundits than the BBC.

[GUNBOAT]

Far better pundits than the BBC.

Eh but they cannie count.

[cybershed]

Netherlands 3 - 2 Ukraine

Thoroughly enjoyed that one.

[stokearab]

Netherlands 3 - 2 Ukraine

Thoroughly enjoyed that one.

Great game.

Gary Neville writes off Dutch after first game.

[stokearab]

Netherlands 3 - 2 Ukraine

Thoroughly enjoyed that one.

Saw some of Austria Macedonia, enjoyed that too, a fast paced physical battle.

[TerryTheTerror]

I've not missed a game yet. It'll never last, she'll get pissed off at some point. XD

[stokearab]

I've not missed a game yet. It'll never last, she'll get pissed off at some point. XD

Just keep telling her it's only once every 4 years Terry.
That worked for me until she worked out there was World Cups as well 😄

[Chick A Saw]

I've not missed a game yet. It'll never last, she'll get pissed off at some point. XD

Not missed a match yet, but that aint gonna last much longer after tomorrow. Tonights game is the first half ive really enjoyed but i need to be entertained, and it aint happening!

[JUSTaway]

Was a Great game, even at 0-0. Ive been watching bit of Brazil v Venezuela. Take Neymar out the Brazil side, its just Like watching a technical European side, no flair. I was too young to remember 82 side, 98-2002 were great though - Ronaldo, r Carlos, cafu, rivaldo, Ronaldinho, kaka. seem to have stopped producing these players in recent times.

[TheFerryArab40]

The Dutch game was a fantastic watch this evening and one I really enjoyed and was by far the best game of the tournament so far.

Austria looked good earlier on against as well against North Macedonia who I did not think looked too bad despite the defeat.

England v Croatia was not a great game and although England was the better side I was not overly impressed by them.

Croatia was very poor and I expected a lot better from them, if that's the standard they are going to be then there is no reason that Scotkand can not beat them as well.

[ahlltanyirhide]

Thon Dutch strip would look fantastic with our badge in it

[BackRowArab]

I'm going to the euros!!!!

[tHeArAb]

Thon Dutch strip would look fantastic with our badge in it

Thon Dutch players would look fantastic in our strip. 😎

[Acido]

That's the difference between us and you though mate they really are the mighty Swiss in our eyes.

Im not sure what you mean there Gunner lol. Im sure the Swiss are thinking about going through with Italy, but obviously Wales and yes even Turkey aren't out of it yet. How many teams have gone through after losing their opening group game eh ?. :p

[Acido]

Great game. Gary Neville writes off Dutch after first game.

I normally prefer the Beeb over Itv when it comes to pundits and commentators, but there really isn't much to choose between them this time. And Gary Neville still wants a smack, Ive always thought that when Ive listened to him as a pundit lol.
Roy Keane annoys the hell out of me, but he does speak the truth most of the time whether I/we like it or not. :O

[GUNBOAT]

I'm going to the euros!!!!

Hope you have a great day mate,FACT.

[GUNBOAT]

Im not sure what you mean there Gunner lol. Im sure the Swiss are thinking about going through with Italy, but obviously Wales and yes even Turkey aren't out of it yet. How many teams have gone through after losing their opening group game eh ?. :p

I still think Turkey can qualify but would be happy to see Wales beating them.

[tHeArAb]

Really hope Gilmour & Patterson are playing today. This is the one game we should be confident of getting 3 points from and should be looking to attack. Don't bottle it Stevie. 💪🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[Acido]

I still think Turkey can qualify but would be happy to see Wales beating them.

Hhmm, Im not sure abaart that ehh Gunner lol.
Ok yes Im pleased to see Keifer Moore do well for Wales as he used to be a popular Barnsley player.
But Im not particularly interested in Wales and their mostly English born players, who are surely now bringing up long lost unknown Welsh grandparents etc.

[BudMill90]

Really hope Gilmour & Patterson are playing today. This is the one game we should be confident of getting 3 points from and should be looking to attack. Don't bottle it Stevie. ������������������

Would put a fair chunk on neither of them starting any of the 3 games. I would 100% start Gilmour today with McTominay and Mcginn beside him. Patterson I'm not so sure, definitely a talent but we have enough quality on other areas to get away with the average SOD as he will give us a bit more steel defensively than Patterson.

Clarke is annoyingly loyal, which means that even though Mcgregor and Christie have been awful the last few months, both will almost certainly be in the starting 11 day.

My team would be:

(352)
Gordon
Hendry Cooper Tierney
O'Donnell McTominay Gilmour McGinn Robertson
Adams Dykes

[GUNBOAT]

Hhmm, Im not sure abaart that ehh Gunner lol.
Ok yes Im pleased to see Keifer Moore do well for Wales as he used to be a popular Barnsley player.
But Im not particularly interested in Wales and their mostly English born players, who are surely now bringing up long lost unknown Welsh grandparents etc.

To go from the darkest depth's of Barnsley to the the heights of scoring at the Euro's,what a story eh mate?. ;D

[stokearab]

Really hope Gilmour & Patterson are playing today. This is the one game we should be confident of getting 3 points from and should be looking to attack. Don't bottle it Stevie. 💪🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Think a lot of fans would want Gilmour and Patterson to start today but as Budmill says Clarke will likely stick with the players that got us to the tournament.
His biggest dilemma is whether to go with Dykes and Adams or play just one of them with Christie.

[ranaldarab]

Neither McGregor nor Chtistie would start for me, both have been lowping for some time and have brought nothing to games. We're at home so get two up front. McTominay Gilmour and McGinn in the middle of park. Marshall in goal. 1-0 Scotland.

[stokearab]

Would put a fair chunk on neither of them starting any of the 3 games. I would 100% start Gilmour today with McTominay and Mcginn beside him. Patterson I'm not so sure, definitely a talent but we have enough quality on other areas to get away with the average SOD as he will give us a bit more steel defensively than Patterson.

Clarke is annoyingly loyal, which means that even though Mcgregor and Christie have been awful the last few months, both will almost certainly be in the starting 11 day.

My team would be:

(352)
Gordon
Hendry Cooper Tierney
O'Donnell McTominay Gilmour McGinn Robertson
Adams Dykes

McGinn frustrates me, can be great or just fail to make the impact he can.
My starting 11 would be

Marshall
Gallacher Cooper Tierney
Patterson McGinn McTominay Armstrong Robbo
Christie Dykes

If still level or behind sub McGinn for Gilmour and Christie for Fraser

[Acido]

To go from the darkest depth's of Barnsley to the the heights of scoring at the Euro's,what a story eh mate?. ;D

Ohh yes, its the story of dreams isn't it ehh lol. Im not from Barnsley though Gunner, so say what you want. XD

[stokearab]

I normally prefer the Beeb over Itv when it comes to pundits and commentators, but there really isn't much to choose between them this time. And Gary Neville still wants a smack, Ive always thought that when Ive listened to him as a pundit lol.
Roy Keane annoys the hell out of me, but he does speak the truth most of the time whether I/we like it or not. :O

Neville is generally ok, but way over confident in his own opinions. Keane is what it says on the tin, an absolute k unt of a human being.

Tbh the punditry on ITV and BBC is woeful.

[BudMill90]

Very interested to see the BBC coverage of the game today. Will they just leave it all to BBC Scotland to run or will they give it the big production that England seem to constantly get?

[stokearab]

Very interested to see the BBC coverage of the game today. Will they just leave it all to BBC Scotland to run or will they give it the big production that England seem to constantly get?

Not sure how it works for folk living in Scotland but my system gives me BBC Engeland and BBC Scotland. I know which one I'll be watching 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🧡

[Acido]

Neville is generally ok, but way over confident in his own opinions. Keane is what it says on the tin, an absolute k unt of a human being. Tbh the punditry on ITV and BBC is woeful.

I find that G. Neville is as bad as Lee Dixon when it comes to boredom, they can and do speak sense but they are also as boring as hell sometimes.
I like Guy Mowbray as a Beeb commentator, but it makes it harder when hes got the likes of Martin Keown alongside him, boring us all to sleep like he used to do at Arsenal. :p

[stokearab]

I find that G. Neville is as bad as Lee Dixon when it comes to boredom, they can and do speak sense but they are also as boring as hell sometimes.
I like Guy Mowbray as a Beeb commentator, but it makes it harder when hes got the likes of Martin Keown alongside him, boring us all to sleep like he used to do at Arsenal. :p

The best co commentator I've heard is Andy Hinchcliffe.

[stokearab]

Would put a fair chunk on neither of them starting any of the 3 games. I would 100% start Gilmour today with McTominay and Mcginn beside him. Patterson I'm not so sure, definitely a talent but we have enough quality on other areas to get away with the average SOD as he will give us a bit more steel defensively than Patterson.

Clarke is annoyingly loyal, which means that even though Mcgregor and Christie have been awful the last few months, both will almost certainly be in the starting 11 day.

My team would be:

(352)
Gordon
Hendry Cooper Tierney
O'Donnell McTominay Gilmour McGinn Robertson
Adams Dykes

Agree with what you say about O'Donnells steel. Clarke loves O'Donnell and I can't see him being dropped any time soon because of that.

He does give you more physicality especially at set pieces and has more experience than Patterson but my biggest worry about our 3 group games is that O'Donnell will cost us at least one goal.

He's not mobile or quick enough at this level and those are the two most important qualities needed. He's also poor with distribution at times. Admittedly Patterson is young and inexperienced but if I'm choosing a right back to face a left side of Sterling and Mount it would be Patterson every time.

Be interesting to see how he gets on today.
C'mon Scotland

[JUSTaway]

I dont mind gary neville, but i did find the Way he put his comments over last night about the dutch as very dismissive, as though he was some sort of Oracle.

I dont want to Jinx it, but the refereeing (Denmark pen aside) has been good, and they Are ušing VAR as it should be used, only for clear cut mistakes, and letting refs by in large get on with it.

[ranaldarab]

Nae Tierney, feck sake.

[tHeArAb]

One up front too. F*ck sake.

[tHeArAb]

Looks like Christie in the supporting striker role again. He did not bad there previously tbf.

[tHeArAb]

19238

[JUSTaway]

Massive blow losing tierney, he’s had a bit of history with injuries.

[stokearab]

A blow losing Tierney. Need a big performance from Armstrong.

[stokearab]

One up front too. F*ck sake.

He's only gone 2 up front experimental in friendlies IIRC. If Christie can find some form I'm ok with that.

[shedka]

We've had good results without Tierney but annoying he is out, any word if its just precaution and he'll be back for the others?

[stokearab]

We've had good results without Tierney but annoying he is out, any word if its just precaution and he'll be back for the others?

"A knock"

Hopefully a precaution for Friday

[tHeArAb]

He's only gone 2 up front experimental in friendlies IIRC. If Christie can find some form I'm ok with that.

Started two up top vs the Faroes. Finished with two up top vs Austria.

Eight goals in three games with two strikers. Let's hope Adams gets on pronto.

[ARAbCHNID]

The Sportscene turnips sorry pundits are all giving up the ghost cos the prodigal son is awol.

[shedka]

Muppets

[stokearab]

Looks like Christie in the supporting striker role again. He did not bad there previously tbf.

The big plus there is that if Christie isn't doing it he's got Fraser to replace him albeit on the other side. Could give us a bit of unpredictability

[ARAbCHNID]

Nil nil pays 6/1.

[Chick A Saw]

Its sad for me to say that ive not cared much for the Scotland team for a number of years, but CMON SCOTLAND!

[tHeArAb]

O'Donnell's been a liability so far. The one proper weak link.

[TerryTheTerror]

O'Donnell's been a liability so far. The one proper weak link.

Yeah agree. Hanley at the goal though, phuxache. :(

[TerryTheTerror]

Yeah agree. Hanley at the goal though, phuxache. :(

And now Marshall. :( Why oh why is he almost on the half way line? The striker obviously noticed he'd been doing it before that too. :?

[Whitfieldarab]

McGinn has spent most of the day falling on his ar5e

[TerryTheTerror]

McGinn has spent most of the day falling on his ar5e

Yeah, bad day at the office for a few when we least needed it. :(

[no1arabbelfast]

I was hoping the Euros would show that we were making progress after 25 years of guff.

Unfortunately, this just confirms we're still a light weight third tier footballing country.

Need a miracle to not get humiliated against England on Friday night. Need to pack the defence and hit on the break.

Hopefully Dykes will not be playing. Dreadful footballer.

[sultan_of_arabia]

Football. To be expected but still hurts :(

[JUSTaway]

Thoroughly deflating. Scotland have always been poor in front of goal as long as i’ve Followed football.

[tHeArAb]

I was hoping the Euros would show that we were making progress after 25 years of guff.

Unfortunately, this just confirms we're still a light weight third tier footballing country.

Need a miracle to not get humiliated against England on Friday night. Need to pack the defence and hit on the break.

Hopefully Dykes will not be playing. Dreadful footballer.
B*llocks.

You're the most negative poster I've ever come across on Mad over the years. I thought only Utd, but now clearly Scotland. Can almost predict when you'll appear on here. You only ever pipe up when you have something to moan about, usually a defeat. We are clearly better than we have been for a number of years. Have a better manager, have better players. Rightfully there is a feel good factor about the national team. We've earned it. Today wasn't our day. We could've had an open goal from two yards out and it would've been deflected wide somehow. We're a new team to this kind of competition. Today we had more possession. We had more chances. We just didn't take the chances. The Czechs did and one was a wonder goal only a select few in the world have ever scored.

A miracle not to get humiliated vs England? Dykes a dreadful footballer? You need to go for a lie down.

[no1arabbelfast]

Aye.

We just got horsed at home from an average team and I'm just being negative.

Fair enough.

[stokearab]

The truth is we can't afford to lose one of our best players from the lineup. We just don't have enough quality for that. Tierney at left CB gives you an extra man in midfield and as a result McTominay McGinn and Armstrong never really got going.
If Hendry plays the ball to the man in space on his right instead of trying to be Beckenbauer it stays 0-1 and we're still in the game.

Can only imagine Gallagher has said something out of place to Clarke.

[Arabdownsouth]

Aye.

We just got horsed at home from an average team and I'm just being negative.

Fair enough.

He is right though, you never post anything positive at all and only ever come on to ****ing moan. Exactly the same on EF too. You must be a joy to be around ☹️

[Chick A Saw]

Cant say im that disappointed about the score as their keeper was unbeatable today!

[Whitfieldarab]

Plenty positives today. You can blame both Hendry and Marshall for their parts in the 2nd goal but both played well outwith that incident. O'Donnell does look a fish out of water at this level though.

[TangerineDream]

Enough chances to win that game but not good enough and unlucky for some of them. Thought Andy in particular played very well. Ridiculous from Marshall, what was he thinking about being so far up the pitch? Had some good saves also though. O’Donnell needs replaced on that form.

Overall very disappointing but hey we are used to that iy.

Unfortunately Engurland looked pretty good the other night, first half anyway, but you never know.

‘Mon the Scots.

[JUSTaway]

Tierney injury, Robertson should score with that chance at 0-0, then Hendry and Marshall for second goal. What would Scotland give to have a top class striker like Schick. We had some great chances, but Marshall had some great saves too. If we'd got a win it would have been a free hit at Wembley, do fear for us Friday, pressure on us, pressure off them.

[Shedboy1971]

****e end of

[Shedboy1971]

seriously what were the tactics there? we are whipping boys in this group. Dykes instead of adams wtaf - both should be on.

[Arabgee]

Plenty positives today. You can blame both Hendry and Marshall for their parts in the 2nd goal but both played well outwith that incident. O'Donnell does look a fish out of water at this level though.
Very negative line up right from the start. Should have set up with two strikers. O’Donnell not worthy of a place in the team never mind the squad. Very poor goals to loose, defending was atrocious, who was meant to close down the player crossing the ball for the first goal and the least said the better about Hendry and Marshall for the second goal !!!! Clarke needs to rethinks his negative plans for the England and be more attacking from the outset or we are out. Get it sorted !!!

[Shedboy1971]

odonnell was shocking - i thought hendry was good position wise - goal apart - which lets be honest when your keeper is on half way line isnt hard

[tHeArAb]

odonnell was shocking - i thought hendry was good position wise - goal apart - which lets be honest when your keeper is on half way line isnt hard

O'Donnell was pish. Must've made about 5 stupid errors in the first half. Offered very little going forward. Patterson would've offered so much more in an attacking sense. We saw what difference 'no neck' made when he came on. We could've had that from the start with Patterson. We had nothing on the right hand side the whole game.

[JamesMcClean]

O'Donnell was pish. Must've made about 5 stupid errors in the first half.

I particularly liked the one where he took out/tackled Christie after the latter had skinned a couple of defenders in the first half. WTAF.

[tHeArAb]

I particularly liked the one where he took out/tackled Christie after the latter had skinned a couple of defenders in the first half. WTAF.

Then just stood there like "sorry mate, did I get in the way?"

[japanarab]

Then just stood there like "sorry mate, did I get in the way?"
Agreed, he was mince. Everything thing came down our left (rightly so) so it doesn’t take a master tactician to sort that out. Hopefully O’Donnell is replaced on Friday. Gotta throw Gilmour in at some point too.

[Acido]

What did you think ehh lads, of the Czech's ?.
I think they looked more threatening than the Croatian's, and their goalscorer was a real handfull, a typical quality old fashioned number 10 striker. :s

[BudMill90]

Everyone knew O'Donnell was sh1te before he stepped on the pitch yesterday. He was so far out of his depth it was terrifying. If he plays a minute in any of our next 2 games then Clarke hasnt got a f0cking clue

[stokearab]

What did you think ehh lads, of the Czech's ?.
I think they looked more threatening than the Croatian's, and their goalscorer was a real handfull, a typical quality old fashioned number 10 striker. :s

I think we made them look like Brazil.

Several of our players underperformed on the day.
At least 2 selection howlers from our coach
And Tierney missing.
On the basis of seeing them both once aye probably better than Croatia

[tHeArAb]

Everyone knew O'Donnell was sh1te before he stepped on the pitch yesterday. He was so far out of his depth it was terrifying. If he plays a minute in any of our next 2 games then Clarke hasnt got a f0cking clue

Agreed. We both said it mate. What do we know though eh?

[TerryTheTerror]

What did you think ehh lads, of the Czech's ?.
I think they looked more threatening than the Croatian's, and their goalscorer was a real handfull, a typical quality old fashioned number 10 striker. :s

Apologies in advance but: phuckoff you smug English chunt. :P

[TerryTheTerror]

And I really wish Scotland had a striker with the vision and skill to score a goal like the Czech's second...

[TerryTheTerror]

Everyone knew O'Donnell was sh1te before he stepped on the pitch yesterday. He was so far out of his depth it was terrifying. If he plays a minute in any of our next 2 games then Clarke hasnt got a f0cking clue

Well, if anyone didn't now they do. :(

[BackRowArab]

Everyone knew O'Donnell was sh1te before he stepped on the pitch yesterday. He was so far out of his depth it was terrifying. If he plays a minute in any of our next 2 games then Clarke hasnt got a f0cking clue

There was a few people on here gushing about the ability and potential of he other right back in the squad. Patterson has to start the next two games

[Shedboy1971]

And I really wish Scotland had a striker with the vision and skill to score a goal like the Czech's second...

yeah cant recall any striker scoring a goal from near half way line in Scotland....oh wait a minute ;)

[Shedboy1971]

I am keen to know how far Scotland will go to crush the nation. Amy Mcdonald (who is married to that knob who wished siegrist a broken wrist) and incidentally enjoys an "open marriage" sums it up well

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@Amy__Macdonald


I love that all the weans are watching this in school. This is the sort of crushing disappointment that sets you up for life.

[BackRowArab]

I am keen to know how far Scotland will go to crush the nation. Amy Mcdonald (who is married to that knob who wished siegrist a broken wrist) and incidentally enjoys an "open marriage" sums it up well

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@Amy__Macdonald


I love that all the weans are watching this in school. This is the sort of crushing disappointment that sets you up for life.

So....you're saying there's a chance?

[shedka]

There definitely is, if we get something on Friday... That's the tricky part

Croatia we have a good record against, they haven't beaten us in the five meetings, two wins in there, 4pts might be enough

[Shedboy1971]

[QUOTE=BackRowArab;39801428]So....you're saying there's a chance?[/QUO

Its like watching United really isnt it. Always a chance. 100% heart 0% head saying that though :)

[Shedboy1971]

So....you're saying there's a chance?

oh misread that - defo she likes M&S ......... err maybe i got that wrong......

[OmaniArab]

odonnell was shocking - i thought hendry was good position wise - goal apart - which lets be honest when your keeper is on half way line isnt hard

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[Acido]

Apologies in advance but: phuckoff you smug English chunt. :P

Aww flattery will get you nowhere Sir Terror the Terry. :D

[ARAbCHNID]

19247

Hamish would have been in their half. He was the original sweeper keeper. Honestly, he was.

[BudMill90]

Shanks and Mulgrew on the BBC Euros breakfast show now. From 7.35 onwards.

[tHeArAb]

Shanks and Mulgrew on the BBC Euros breakfast show now. From 7.35 onwards.

Decent interview from Mulgrew tbf. Speaks very highly of Courts' knowledge. Means f*ck all though if he can't deliver results. Here's hoping. Mulgrew seems genuinely delighted to be back.

[no1arabbelfast]

Great performance from Wales and shows what you can achieve with a couple of great forwards.

Unfortunately, Scotland's two best players are left backs.

Need the lads to step up on Friday night.

[Chick A Saw]

Really enjoyed what i managed to see from both games today, but life got in the way! Italy Switzerland better be the same!

[stokearab]

Great performance from Wales and shows what you can achieve with a couple of great forwards.

Unfortunately, Scotland's two best players are left backs.

Need the lads to step up on Friday night.

Thought Wales were great. Night and day compared to the Switzerland game. Well marshalled defensively dig, patience, hard work and creativity. They deserve to qualify.

[stokearab]

Great performance from Wales and shows what you can achieve with a couple of great forwards.

Unfortunately, Scotland's two best players are left backs.

Need the lads to step up on Friday night.

I can tell you're pining for Ollie McBurnie 😎

Che Adams to score the winner on Friday.

[cybershed]

Excellent result for Wales. They can go to Rome and play without fear.

[TerryTheTerror]

Really enjoyed what i managed to see from both games today, but life got in the way! Italy Switzerland better be the same!

Italy were brilliant again, going to take some stopping!

[Chick A Saw]

Italy were brilliant again, going to take some stopping!

Again, life got in the way, but what i did see they were very good, but i cannae see past France just now.

[japanarab]

Italy were brilliant again, going to take some stopping!
Did anyone tip Italy? Canna mind. I think someone did.

[ballumbie_arab]

Italy were brilliant again, going to take some stopping!

Not if you listened to the typical sh!te from the pundits on tv last night. It was embarrassing, claiming Italy have not been tested so far! Had England turned in that type performance (particularly if on the back of a previous 3-0 win), they’d all be slavering at the mouth and talking about winning the whole tournament. It’s no wonder everyone loves to see them fail.

[BackRowArab]

Not if you listened to the typical sh!te from the pundits on tv last night. It was embarrassing, claiming Italy have not been tested so far! Had England turned in that type performance (particularly if on the back of a previous 3-0 win), they’d all be slavering at the mouth and talking about winning the whole tournament. It’s no wonder everyone loves to see them fail.

That's why I turn on at the start of a game, go do something at half time, then switch off after the full time whistle. The level of punditry on TV these days is shocking.

[Shedboy1971]

Italy were brilliant again, going to take some stopping!

I love the way Italy play. See the ability of strikers to take a step to side to enable a larger target to shoot on. Its breathtaking to watch. Funny i recall playing for broughty athletic and being told this. wonder why more forwards dont do it lol

[TerryTheTerror]

I love the way Italy play. See the ability of strikers to take a step to side to enable a larger target to shoot on. Its breathtaking to watch. Funny i recall playing for broughty athletic and being told this. wonder why more forwards dont do it lol

Their pressing of the opposition when they don't have the ball is epic.

[Shedboy1971]

Their pressing of the opposition when they don't have the ball is epic.

it is very 80s in many ways. Love it

[stokearab]

Just a thought on penalties in the modern game.

Ok so a defender is facing his own goal. The ball is within reach and he goes to clear it.
He can't see an attacker behind him. He might not even hear him.
As he goes into the act of clearing the ball the attacker nips in and makes an attempt to play the ball as the defender is kicking it.
The attacker goes down as if hit by a sniper in the crowd and is awared a penalty.

How can it be a penalty if a) the defender couldn't even see the attacker and b) he's making a legitimate attempt to clear the ball without interfering with the attacker?

I'm on the attacker's side normally especially with VAR (his eyebrows were clearly offside) but I just don't understand how that is a penalty nearly every time. Been a long time since I played though 🙉

[stokearab]

I love the way Italy play. See the ability of strikers to take a step to side to enable a larger target to shoot on. Its breathtaking to watch. Funny i recall playing for broughty athletic and being told this. wonder why more forwards dont do it lol

They look impressive don't they. If had to put the house on Belguim or Italy it's going on Italy. Italy v France would be hard to call.

With Italy you always feel their weakness is if you can get in their heads, get them upset, see if you can rough them up a bit and disturb their rhythm.

Couldn't see Italy dealing with Hendry and Hanley though 🙈

[stokearab]

Not a fan of Martin Keown but I think he nails it here.

Martin Keown: Scotland are capable of playing good football but they didn't set up to do that against the Czech Republic. They were very direct.

I was quite shocked and surprised how often Scotland went long in that game. Especially in the first half, every time the keeper David Marshall got it, he launched it.

If they adopt that style again, it will be a different test for our centre-backs, and for Declan Rice in front of them, because it will be a throwback - more akin to the kind of game England manager Gareth Southgate might have faced as a player at club level rather than international level.

Scotland's biggest threat is Andrew Robertson going down the left-hand side. He created six chances in Monday's game on his own, and he is very dangerous, but they don't have the same down the right and it makes them a little bit one-dimensional.

They have to hope that Kieran Tierney is fit because he and Robertson take it in turns to charge forward down that flank. I watched them in their 2-2 friendly draw with the Netherlands at the start of the month and it was almost as if they were exchanging a relay baton.

But one of the mistakes they made against the Czechs was that they were too physical. The two Czech centre-halves were eating up a lot of those long balls, and Scotland did not show much quality or composure in the final third.

I was surprised that Scotland manager Steve Clarke went with players who had helped them qualify - in Adams they have got a Premier League quality centre-forward. He should have started that game and I expect he will be in their team on on Friday.
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Must admit I selected Dykes over Adams in my starting 11 for the Czech game, a mistake. Has to start tomorrow.

[stokearab]

Not our keeper

https://news.sky.com/video/is-this-the-worst-keeper-mistake-ever-12334879

[Chick A Saw]

I would love to say i knew who was going to win this year, but i cannot split Italy, France, Belgium and the Netherlands. Add in Portugal as well and it becomes impossible to predict!

[GUNBOAT]

I would love to say i knew who was going to win this year, but i cannot split Italy, France, Belgium and the Netherlands. Add in Portugal as well and it becomes impossible to predict!

I have got France to win,Italy EW and unfortunately Turkey as my dark horses.I placed those bets on the 11th of June just prior to the 1st match.

[GUNBOAT]

Sadiq Khan said dinnie come soon,
the forecast says its pyssing doon,
its like when we were banned fae Croker,
another phucking English Joker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUHFcrHz5Dk&ab_channel=Fankurve-UltrasFankurve-Ultras

[GUNBOAT]

unlikely?,yes but not impossible,FACT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra52GXI5YXA&ab_channel=neacailcairdsneacailcairds

[JamesMcClean]

No doubt we’ll get grubbed tonight in the end. BUT, you never know. 1999 we’d got beat at Hampden and the English press were predicting a procession in the second leg but we went down there, showed complete devotion to the cause and won 1-0 against an England side with Beckham, Sol Campbell, Alan Shearer, Paul Scholes, Tony Adams, Gary Neville et al all in it. And deservedly so as well - it could and should have been more. With a bit of luck and fire in the bellies, we CAN do this - they are not nearly as good as they think they are.

COME ON SCOTLAND!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgvgOxVzSMw

[tHeArAb]

Tierney fit to play. Massive news for us. Hopefully Clarke sees sense and bins O'Donnell but I really can't see it. Would like to Adams and Gilmour come in but again, I doubt that'll happen.

[BackRowArab]

Just a thought on penalties in the modern game.

Ok so a defender is facing his own goal. The ball is within reach and he goes to clear it.
He can't see an attacker behind him. He might not even hear him.
As he goes into the act of clearing the ball the attacker nips in and makes an attempt to play the ball as the defender is kicking it.
The attacker goes down as if hit by a sniper in the crowd and is awared a penalty.

How can it be a penalty if a) the defender couldn't even see the attacker and b) he's making a legitimate attempt to clear the ball without interfering with the attacker?

I'm on the attacker's side normally especially with VAR (his eyebrows were clearly offside) but I just don't understand how that is a penalty nearly every time. Been a long time since I played though 🙉

Attackers get the advantage these days, which they should. Always reward attacking play.

[GUNBOAT]

Decent interview from Mulgrew tbf. Speaks very highly of Courts' knowledge. Means f*ck all though if he can't deliver results. Here's hoping. Mulgrew seems genuinely delighted to be back.

I really hope the Mulgrew signing works out mate.What worries me apart from his age is injuries and i think the recent one was an achilles which is brutal.
It does not surprise me he is delighted to be back as i'm sure he thought he was getting no better than a year from Partick Thistle.During his interview he mentioned Tam and said he was sitting there with his laptop and he just knows so much.
I actually thought he was speaking about me as i also know so much more when i have my laptop to hand,like how to spell achilles etc. XD

[BudMill90]

My Scotland team for tonight would be:

Marshall
Cooper Hanley Tierney
Forrest Gilmour McTominay McGinn Robertson
Adams Dykes

[BackRowArab]

My Scotland team for tonight would be:

Marshall
Cooper Hanley Tierney
Forrest Gilmour McTominay McGinn Robertson
Adams Dykes

Patterson for Forrest is the only change I would make from that

[tHeArAb]

My Scotland team for tonight would be:

Marshall
Cooper Hanley Tierney
Forrest Gilmour McTominay McGinn Robertson
Adams Dykes

Wouldn't complain with that midfield. Defence is anyone's game. Cooper being left footed may be an issue.

My preference -

Marshall
Robertson Robertson Robertson Robertson
Robertson Robertson Robertson Robertson
Robertson Robertson

[GUNBOAT]

Wouldn't complain with that midfield. Defence is anyone's game. Cooper being left footed may be an issue.

My preference -

Marshall
Robertson Robertson Robertson Robertson
Robertson Robertson Robertson Robertson
Robertson Robertson

I concur but after Monday i'm going with Robertson in goal for this one.

[GUNBOAT]

In the history of the ancient nation of Scotland we have only ever won 2 games at the Euro's,both these games were played on the 18th of June.
What's the date today anybody?.

[Shedboy1971]

london is buzzing. not one OF fan have i met. bar bill a disaster but all good natured. the locals know its the hope that kills us lol but we are doing the nation proud so far. SRYB

[Shedboy1971]

its pissing doon here. sunny in glasgow apparently. wtaf - it is a sign :) ive not met one person with a ticket lol