Match Thread vs. Tamworth 16.10.21 (FACQR4]

[60YearsAPie]

20127

[forwardmagpie]

20127

Strong team with good options on the bench.

[hissingdwarf]

Vincent really isn’t ‘in’ with the management is he?
Perfect game for him as well.

[MagpieNate]

Would have been nice to see Vinny start. Seemed the perfect opportunity. Anyone know where I can listen to the match?

[SwalePie]

Would have been nice to see Vinny start. Seemed the perfect opportunity. Anyone know where I can listen to the match?

BBC Sport website or Nottingham Hospitals Radio should both have the commentary

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/58774685

https://nhradio.org.uk/

[CamPie]

Surprised me with that line up. If we take this as seriously as Grimsby did earlier we should be ok. I watched a bit of that early game and Grimsby really impressed. Paul Hurst has got them playing really well and working very hard.

[upthemaggies]

No FA Cup score updates on the BBC, they haven't even put up the result of the earlier Grimsby TV game.

[CamPie]

BBC Sport website or Nottingham Hospitals Radio should both have the commentary

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/58774685

https://nhradio.org.uk/

Outside of Notts it seems they are not available for the Cup. Just subscribed to ifollow for a month so I can listen.

[Thin_Man]

Is there a stream of this game?

[americanpie]

No FA Cup score updates on the BBC, they haven't even put up the result of the earlier Grimsby TV game.

They have put up ONE individual page.........Marine vs Hollywood Wrexham!

[Elite_Pie]

Outside of Notts it seems they are not available for the Cup. Just subscribed to ifollow for a month so I can listen.

I’m getting Charlie Slater on the BBC commentary in Portugal.

[forwardmagpie]

I’m getting Charlie Slater on the BBC commentary in Portugal.

Also available in Llangollen North Wales

[BanjoPie]

Outside of Notts it seems they are not available for the Cup. Just subscribed to ifollow for a month so I can listen.

Can you not listen on Radio Nottingham DAB

Actually, You are not missing much!

[upthemaggies]

This page looks like it's updating with FA Cup scores....

https://www.livescore.bz/en/football/league/84/results/

Eastleigh already 0-2 behind at home to FOLKESTONE INVICTA

[SwalePie]

Folkestone beating Eastleigh 3-0 away and Yate Town beating Dover

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/fa-cup (https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/fa-cup)

Vidiprinter here https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/fa-cup/vidiprinter (https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/fa-cup/vidiprinter)

[countygump]

Can you not listen on Radio Nottingham DAB


That is what I'm doing.

[Thin_Man]

Outside of Notts it seems they are not available for the Cup. Just subscribed to ifollow for a month so I can listen.

If you have a VPN, you could bypass any geolock.

[upthemaggies]

Charlie: It's all gone quiet
Stallard: Silence of the Lambs?

[SwalePie]

Charlie: It's all gone quiet
Stallard: Silence of the Lambs?

Enjoyed that one :)

[CamPie]

Can you not listen on Radio Nottingham DAB

Actually, You are not missing much!

I was listening to pre-match through BBC Sounds and it switched programs at the time it normally goes to commentary - usually a sign that it’s not available.

[SwalePie]

Rodrigues free kick hits the underside of the bar. Ooooh!

[SwalePie]

I was listening to pre-match through BBC Sounds and it switched programs at the time it normally goes to commentary - usually a sign that it’s not available.

Usually more reliable to listen through BBC Sport website if poss.

[SwalePie]

Tamworth RFC player manage to stop Ruben there

[upthemaggies]

Stags in the relegation zone now as it stands.

[CamPie]

Usually more reliable to listen through BBC Sport website if poss.

Doh! Yes just checked that and it’s working fine. Oh well £4 not end of the world and Notts will at least get a cut.

[SwalePie]

Doh! Yes just checked that and it’s working fine. Oh well £4 not end of the world and Notts will at least get a cut.

I pay it every month too but I usually actually listen on BBC :) Every couple of quid helps the club though as you say!

[Carlton_Pie]

I pay it every month too but I usually actually listen on BBC :) Every couple of quid helps the club though as you say!

End to end first half with both teams having chances.

Our poor finishing continues to be an issue

[BanjoPie]

When I am in Portugal, I can listen to BBC Radio Nottingham commentary only if I tether my ipad to my phone (vodafone) and use the vodafone internet and not the local wifi - that seems to work.

[KCNotts]

End to end first half with both teams having chances.

Our poor finishing continues to be an issue

Roberts sounds really out of form.

[SwalePie]

When I am in Portugal, I can listen to BBC Radio Nottingham commentary only if I tether my ipad to my phone (vodafone) and use the vodafone internet and not the local wifi - that seems to work.

That's odd. I'd have thought you could just listen using the phone itself in that case.

[SwalePie]

That young lad Nathan Tyson has scored for Chessie

[Carlton_Pie]

Horrible feeling they could nick one here with us missing a bucket load of chances

[upthemaggies]

40 years ago this season we got knocked out of the FA Cup by losing 6-0

50 years ago this season we got knocked out of the FA Cup by losing 6-0

[americanpie]

40 years ago this season we got knocked out of the FA Cup by losing 6-0

50 years ago this season we got knocked out of the FA Cup by losing 6-0

And I was looking forward to my 40/1 Yaps return on my 6-1 to Notts forecast !!

See Kion Etete is playing up front for Northampton Vs Stags.

[BanjoPie]

That's odd. I'd have thought you could just listen using the phone itself in that case.

Of course but quality better through the ipad

[BanjoPie]

Subs!!!

[SwalePie]

Subs!!!

How much do I owe?

[upthemaggies]

Surely fitness should start to play a part as this goes on.

[SwalePie]

We seem to be piling on the goal attempts now, surely one goes in soon?

[SwalePie]

Wootton replaces Mitchell

[KCNotts]

Mitchell off. He's looking another great bit of business.

[KCNotts]

DKE is going to cost us again here. Get him off. Tyrell Waite has the better of him.

[BanjoPie]

How much do I owe?
🤪

[BCnotts18]

I wonder if we'd be doing any better this season if we'd actually signed a decent striker in the summer, rather than someone who's only ever been slightly prolific for Coalville Town.

[countygump]

DKE is going to cost us again here. Get him off. Tyrell Waite has the better of him.

Whenever Dion plays the majority of attacks seem to come down his side, so other teams seem to see him as a weak link.

[AllNottsAreWe]

Mitchell off. He's looking another great bit of business.

Another Notts striker who doesn't score.
Roberts best player in the NL ?
Really ?

[BanjoPie]

I’m sure I heard IB saying how he wanted to progress through the FA cup rounds to test his team against some of the top sides XD

[upthemaggies]

This would be the first 0-0 away in the FA Cup since 1998. We've only had one goalless draw in this competition since at home to Accrington.

[KCNotts]

I wonder if we'd be doing any better this season if we'd actually signed a decent striker in the summer, rather than someone who's only ever been slightly prolific for Coalville Town.

Maybe. But i think we'd have a lot more goals if we had signed Miller and a decent right wing back. The strikers don't get any service.

[SwalePie]

Come on Notts let's not need a replay.

[TedBovisPie]

Making hard work of this, perhaps Sams the man…

[SwalePie]

Sam replaces Roberts who's injured

[Carlton_Pie]

Maybe. But i think we'd have a lot more goals if we had signed Miller and a decent right wing back. The strikers don't get any service.

The strikers don't get any service?

That has to be a joke right? They're getting plenty of service but don't have the quality to take advantage.

17 shots at goals today without scoring!

[CamPie]

Not a great listen this and now Roberts off injured. Time for a Sam worldly.

[KCNotts]

The strikers don't get any service?

That has to be a joke right? They're getting plenty of service but don't have the quality to take advantage.

17 shots at goals today without scoring!

How many shots have Mitchell and Wooton had though? Those are mainly snapshots by Rodders one trick pony Roberts.

[SwalePie]

Cheer up everyone...

Marine 1 - 0 Wrexham

[countygump]

Cal off injured? Sam on, he's due a goal.

[KCNotts]

Not a great listen this and now Roberts off injured. Time for a Sam worldly.

May be a blessing is disguise. He's been rubbish for weeks.

Marine beating Wrexham so at least it's not just us who are under achieving.

[upthemaggies]

Cheer up everyone...

Marine 1 - 0 Wrexham

And the delightfully named Bowers and Pitsea now beating Aldershot.

[BanjoPie]

I do believe we are missing a good winger who could put some decent crosses in

[Carlton_Pie]

How many shots have Mitchell and Wooton had though? Those are mainly snapshots by Rodders one trick pony Roberts.

Like the one RR has just missed from 6 yards

[BanjoPie]

I find listening to this is quite painful to be honest!

[SwalePie]

Rodrigues brought down on the edge of the box. Come on Notts make it count.

ETA: No good hitting it into the wall though :(

[Carlton_Pie]

19 shots and counting.

[upthemaggies]

County Aggro.

[upthemaggies]

Any chance of the replay being on the BBC red button?

[SwalePie]

Getting a bit tasty out there by the sound of it. Rodders isn't shy of a scrap is he?

[upthemaggies]

Stall: It's a disappointment because it's a replay you don't really want. Performance has been good but lacking the killer touch.

[BanjoPie]

We are such a nice side!

[upthemaggies]

Ft

0-0

[countygump]

We're cr@p aren't we? C'mon you can be honest with old Gumpy.

[SwalePie]

Oh well. Bring on Tuesday. Can't see many being there if they've already bought tickets for the next two league games though.

Hoping Roberts is OK.

[BanjoPie]

If Kane signed for Notts he would never score again!!

[KCNotts]

This is a really poor Notts team pals.

I always thought Steve Thompson's Notts team was the worst I'd ever see, but the reality is that team would batter IB's.

Football Radar need to get their chit together quickly.

[upthemaggies]

1st round draw tomorrow live on itv 1:05pm

[SwalePie]

I don't think this is a poor team at all, we just need to take our chances, that's the weakness today it seems.

19 shots, 10 on target.

[BanjoPie]

Probably hammer them on Tuesday at the Lane

[SwalePie]

Probably hammer them on Tuesday at the Lane

I bloomin' 'ope so Banjo! COYP!

[upthemaggies]

Last minute equaliser for Wrexham.

[Davy500]

I don't think this is a poor team at all, we just need to take our chances, that's the weakness today it seems.

19 shots, 10 on target.

I would love to know what your idea of a poor team is swale

[KCNotts]

I don't think this is a poor team at all, we just need to take our chances, that's the weakness today it seems.

19 shots, 10 on target.

Well we are currently 9th in the National League. We literally haven't ever been worse.

[CheltenhamPie]

I don't think this is a poor team at all, we just need to take our chances, that's the weakness today it seems.

19 shots, 10 on target.
How many times have we read that comment. Really not good enough. I am beginning to think that this season is beginning to drift away from us.

[Elite_Pie]

I don't think this is a poor team at all, we just need to take our chances, that's the weakness today it seems.

19 shots, 10 on target.

And the radio description for the vast majority of those shots was either tame, weak, or scuffed. We’re not a bad team, but something is definitely missing. It’s all too pretty, we need some fire in our bellies and a killer instinct.

[BanjoPie]

And the radio description for the vast majority of those shots was either tame, weak, or scuffed. We’re not a bad team, but something is definitely missing. It’s all too pretty, we need some fire in our bellies and a killer instinct.

“Fire in the belly”

[Elite_Pie]

“Fire in the belly”


Sponsored by Gaviscon.

[keldsyke]

I look forward to Durham's honest assessment, I can't comment on today's performance as I wasn't there but it sounds like a continuation of form before the 2 games of capitulation.

[BigFatPie]

Sounded rubbish.

[Notts_Popular_Front]

Not a huge surprise. Tamworth not that threatening as we had so much possession of the ball. Their keeper had little real work to do.

[upthemaggies]

Should win the replay.

Think we've only lost twice at home to a team two leagues below us in the FA Cup since 1959. To Peterborough in 1981 and to Havant and Waterlooville in 2007.

[BanjoPie]

Sponsored by Gaviscon.


Is he Italian?

[Carlton_Pie]

This is a really poor Notts team pals.

I always thought Steve Thompson's Notts team was the worst I'd ever see, but the reality is that team would batter IB's.

Football Radar need to get their chit together quickly.

Please don't take this the wrong way but do you attend the games?

I'd rather be in NL trying to play football than watch the football in L2 under ST or god forbid Gudjo or Mcparland.

[laddo]

This is a really poor Notts team pals.

I always thought Steve Thompson's Notts team was the worst I'd ever see, but the reality is that team would batter IB's.

Football Radar need to get their chit together quickly.

XD

[upthemaggies]

Attendance: 1,813

[SwalePie]

I would love to know what your idea of a poor team is swale

Well let me think. How about one that actually loses the game for starters? Next how about one that concedes against lowly Tamworth?

I'm convinced you thrive on Notts having a bad day Davy. Obviously I wasn't there so I didn't have the same in-person perspective as you had but based on what I heard on commentary it sounded like we did everything except score. The rest of the performance sounded OK to me. How about we wait and see if we win the tie?

[Elite_Pie]

I'd rather be in NL trying to play football than watch the football in L2 under ST or god forbid Gudjo or Mcparland.

That’s a fairly easy choice for me. I’d definitely go for League 2 under any manager rather than watch us play ‘artistic’ football that could see us being a National League club for several years.

[SwalePie]

And the radio description for the vast majority of those shots was either tame, weak, or scuffed. We’re not a bad team, but something is definitely missing. It’s all too pretty, we need some fire in our bellies and a killer instinct.

Agreed Elite. We're missing the cutting edge.

[SwalePie]

Not a huge surprise. Tamworth not that threatening as we had so much possession of the ball. Their keeper had little real work to do.

Interesting, it sounded on the radio commentary like he made a number of half decent saves. The local press echoes this https://sportinstaffs.co.uk/2021/10/16/singhs-saves-help-tamworth-earn-fa-cup-replay-with-notts-county/ (https://sportinstaffs.co.uk/2021/10/16/singhs-saves-help-tamworth-earn-fa-cup-replay-with-notts-county/)

[AllNottsAreWe]

Did Notts and Stags play today ?
Radio Red seem to have forgotten.

[Carlton_Pie]

That’s a fairly easy choice for me. I’d definitely go for League 2 under any manager rather than watch us play ‘artistic’ football that could see us being a National League club for several years.

We were a league 2 club for several years playing terrible.

At lease this teams trys to play good football.

Being in League 2 or NL doesn't really change my on the day football experience, the type of football amd entertainment the team produces does.

[upthemaggies]

Burch: Not result we wanted (replay). Thought we controlled the game, created chances, they defended resolutely, we gave them little pieces of momentum - free kicks.
Charlie asks if we create enough clear cut chances and Burch thinks we do. Sure we're not the only team that's struggled against lowly opposition today. Didn't do enough to win it so we go again on Tuesday.

[countygump]

That’s a fairly easy choice for me. I’d definitely go for League 2 under any manager rather than watch us play ‘artistic’ football that could see us being a National League club for several years.


This^^^

Sadly I've seen nothing this season, (so far), that convinces me we'll get anywhere near promotion, either auto or P/O's. I hope to Gawd I'm wrong.

[KCNotts]

This^^^

Sadly I've seen nothing this season, (so far), that convinces me we'll get anywhere near promotion, either auto or P/O's. I hope to Gawd I'm wrong.

Thought Slater's questions were more pertinent this week, slight change of tone. Particularly surrounding Vincent and our lack of ability to create clear cut chances.

Well done Charlie.

[laddo]

I look forward to Durham's honest assessment, I can't comment on today's performance as I wasn't there but it sounds like a continuation of form before the 2 games of capitulation.

You do usually get honest assessments from Durham unless we win of course then you get no assessment. Leaves it to others lol.

As for the replay surely you don't play full strength, I'd go with the same 4/5 changes give some another chance. A repeat performance will result in progress to the next round annoyingly via an unwanted extra game.

[smntrees]

I’m currently sat on the train on the way back to Wigan from Tamworth having watched. I’ve been to 3 away games this season so far at Altrincham, Halifax and today. I thought we played some good football at all of the games we just lack movement. Watching the warmup you see lots of pass and move which doesn’t seem to translate into the match. Where we struggle is when teams get 10 players between the ball and the goal which is what both alty and Tamworth did effectively. No matter how much possession we have it’s difficult to score when you are up against a wall of players. It’s where you need a more direct approach is needed. When the game is more open such as against Halifax the system is more effective barring a capitulation. I was disappointed today with the lack of pace and movement particularly in the second half.

[bule1]

Clincal striker (or as near as we can get at this level) is what we need

[Elite_Pie]

We were a league 2 club for several years playing terrible.

At lease this teams trys to play good football.

Being in League 2 or NL doesn't really change my on the day football experience, the type of football amd entertainment the team produces does.

I think we try to play pretty football rather than good football. I think we have to give Burchnall this season at least unless we are in danger of relegation, but my confidence in this stats based approach the owners and coach are adopting actually getting us promoted are diminishing with each game. I keep reading that “once Burchnall sorts it we’ll be fine”. But what if he doesn’t sort it? Does anyone think we look closer to a promotion team now than we did at the end of last season? I think the main problems remain unresolved.

This isn’t meltdown or knee-jerk over a disappointing result, it’s something I’ve thought for ages.

[KCNotts]

I think we try to play pretty football rather than good football. I think we have to give Burchnall this season at least unless we are in danger of relegation, but my confidence in this stats based approach the owners and coach are adopting actually getting us promoted are diminishing with each game. I keep reading that “once Burchnall sorts it we’ll be fine”. But what if he doesn’t sort it? Does anyone think we look closer to a promotion team now than we did at the end of last season? I think the main problems remain unresolved.

This isn’t meltdown or knee-jerk over a disappointing result, it’s something I’ve thought for ages.

Ditto.

[laddo]

Thought Slater's questions were more pertinent this week, slight change of tone. Particularly surrounding Vincent and our lack of ability to create clear cut chances.

Well done Charlie.

I do like Charlie's interviews questions post match he looks like Jeremey Paxman compared to Colin Fray and Jake Garner who *****foot about and sound nervous to be critical in any way, never ask the questions the fans want answering. The reason is obvious why to us all but they shouldn't have journalistic credentials#Lily-livered

[countygump]

Well, bit of a bright spot:



https://i.postimg.cc/QMdCym6N/Capture.png (https://postimages.org/)

[CheltenhamPie]

I’m currently sat on the train on the way back to Wigan from Tamworth having watched. I’ve been to 3 away games this season so far at Altrincham, Halifax and today. I thought we played some good football at all of the games we just lack movement. Watching the warmup you see lots of pass and move which doesn’t seem to translate into the match. Where we struggle is when teams get 10 players between the ball and the goal which is what both alty and Tamworth did effectively. No matter how much possession we have it’s difficult to score when you are up against a wall of players. It’s where you need a more direct approach is needed. When the game is more open such as against Halifax the system is more effective barring a capitulation. I was disappointed today with the lack of pace and movement particularly in the second half.

Welcome. Interesting to read your thoughts on some of our recent away performances, most of which I agree with. I do think we are becoming too predictable in our play, and because we opt for a slow methodical build up, opponents seem able and prepared to nullify our attacks. I feel we need to be more spontaneous, but I think that in itself is a problem because we don’t have an out and out centre forward

[bule1]

How much have they spent to get there?

[Woodypie]

I would say we are an average team for our league and that this is another poor result. It doesn't matter how much glitter is thrown at it by all the posters with a superior understanding of footballing finesse than me, it is still a turd.

[BanjoPie]

I thought we played some good football at all of the games we just lack movement. Where we struggle is when teams get 10 players between the ball and the goal which is what both alty and Tamworth did effectively.

We seem to struggle whenever we play another team full stop!

[bule1]

A bit harsh imo, we are just 1 or 2 of the right players short of what we need

[Glad2BeAPie]

And people think this coach & squad will get us out of this league

[countygump]

A bit harsh imo, we are just 1 or 2 of the right players short of what we need

But isn't that the difference between the League Champs and the also rans?

[Elite_Pie]

A bit harsh imo, we are just 1 or 2 of the right players short of what we need

Or similarly, you could say we are an average side because our recruitment policy has left us short in one or two key areas.

[laddo]

But isn't that the difference between the League Champs and the also rans?

I would suggest it's the difference between the League Champs and the promotion hopefuls. Also Rans you are looking at more than 1 or 2.

[countygump]

I would suggest it's the difference between the League Champs and the promotion hopefuls. Also Rans you are looking at more than 1 or 2.


Yeah , my bad, poor choice of words. It's obvious I'm not a betting man.

[Elite_Pie]

Well, bit of a bright spot:



https://i.postimg.cc/QMdCym6N/Capture.png (https://postimages.org/)

Yep, 5 minutes on Stagsnet should be an entertaining consolation later.

I wonder if anyone will put “only on Stagsnet”!

[bule1]

Agreed overall but we are not just an average team, We are a good team for this level with a couple of key defficiencies if you ask me.

[laddo]

Yep, 5 minutes on Stagsnet should be an entertaining consolation later.

I wonder if anyone will put “only on Stagsnet”!

5 mins?!?! XD who are you trying to kid?

Enjoy ;)

[countygump]

https://youtu.be/PqJKkrdb_is

[Elite_Pie]

Agreed overall but we are not just an average team, We are a good team for this level with a couple of key defficiencies if you ask me.

For me, one of those deficiencies is a midfielder who stops the opposition playing, the other is a team lacking guts, passion, belief, and desire.

The first is probably easier to solve than the second.

[Woodypie]

I would suggest it's the difference between the League Champs and the promotion hopefuls. Also Rans you are looking at more than 1 or 2. We are looking at more than one or two. Striker, central midfielder, two wingbacks and a commanding centre half. I make that five.

[Elite_Pie]

5 mins?!?! XD who are you trying to kid?

Enjoy ;)

Right, so you know how long I’ll spend on there better than I do?

If you want to discuss it further take it to the correct thread rather than derailing this one.

[countygump]

For me, one of those deficiencies is a midfielder who stops the opposition playing, the other is a team lacking guts, passion, belief, and desire.

The first is probably easier to solve than the second.

A solid defensive midfielder. Another Centre Half, a big nasty one. And a big lad up front so's we can mix it up and go long. Sadly Sam ain't the one and I really hoped he would be.

[durhampie]

You do usually get honest assessments from Durham unless we win of course then you get no assessment. Leaves it to others lol.

As for the replay surely you don't play full strength, I'd go with the same 4/5 changes give some another chance. A repeat performance will result in progress to the next round annoyingly via an unwanted extra game.

You obviously didn't read my comments after the Yeovil game then...

[bule1]

For me, one of those deficiencies is a midfielder who stops the opposition playing, the other is a team lacking guts, passion, belief, and desire.

The first is probably easier to solve than the second.

Kind of ironic that the person you are speaking of is another Doyle who was so derided in the past, you are absolutely correct though.

[optipez]

I would suggest it's the difference between the League Champs and the promotion hopefuls. Also Rans you are looking at more than 1 or 2.

As we're sat mid table and not managed to beat a top half team after a quarter of the season we maybe need more than one of two then laddo.

[durhampie]

Well once again that was a complete shambles. I wonder what the excuse will be this time.. This game outlined just how bad the recruitment has been. This bunch of misfits and so called head coach are going nowhere any time soon. Apart from the awful game the sausage and chips were very nice, but there was no beer.

[Glad2BeAPie]

[At least we came 1st on possession, shots on target, corners, bookings. That's the stats they're interested in aparantly]

[bule1]

[At least we came 1st on possession, shots on target, corners, bookings. That's the stats they're interested in aparantly]

LOL, fair call

[durhampie]

[At least we came 1st on possession, shots on target, corners, bookings. That's the stats they're interested in aparantly]

That's why we are struggling to win games. The onus seems to be on how many passes and how long we can keep possession for. Its scoring goals that win games, not bullsh*t

[ncfcog]

Have to agree it’s frustrating at the moment. As everyone will know I’ve been pretty supportive of the club and management over the last couple of seasons and will continue to be.

There’s nothing more disheartening than walking away from a game when you’ve seen what many on here have over the last few weeks.

There’s a lot of talk about needing more players, I’m not saying I disagree but where are these players going to come from? Unless we unearth another Roberts we can only really go to the loan market but there’s no long term strategy in that.

Personally I think we have attacking threat that is more than enough to do a job for the club and have us competing near the top at the end of the season. There’s no doubting the loss of key players hurt us over that run of 3 defeats and we’ve seen we are much better again just having Cameron back who also offers an attacking threat.

So it comes down to putting the ball in the back of the net. We played a pretty strong team today and I was disappointed we didn’t start with Wootton, he desperately needs to get back in the goals and maybe this would have been his opportunity. Rúben can’t be faulted for his contribution at the moment, he’s the most threatening player we have. Roberts seems really out of sorts and I’m yet to be convinced by Mitchell.

I’d rest Roberts Tuesday, give Mitchell another go but alongside Wootton and go for the jugular. They all need a really good win and some goals to get back on track and they’ve got an opportunity to do that on Tuesday night before some very difficult looking games.

[countygump]

Ooooops.




https://youtu.be/5izLyd-2rRg

[nw6pie]

Have to agree it’s frustrating at the moment. As everyone will know I’ve been pretty supportive of the club and management over the last couple of seasons and will continue to be.

There’s nothing more disheartening than walking away from a game when you’ve seen what many on here have over the last few weeks.

There’s a lot of talk about needing more players, I’m not saying I disagree but where are these players going to come from? Unless we unearth another Roberts we can only really go to the loan market but there’s no long term strategy in that.

Personally I think we have attacking threat that is more than enough to do a job for the club and have us competing near the top at the end of the season. There’s no doubting the loss of key players hurt us over that run of 3 defeats and we’ve seen we are much better again just having Cameron back who also offers an attacking threat.

So it comes down to putting the ball in the back of the net. We played a pretty strong team today and I was disappointed we didn’t start with Wootton, he desperately needs to get back in the goals and maybe this would have been his opportunity. Rúben can’t be faulted for his contribution at the moment, he’s the most threatening player we have. Roberts seems really out of sorts and I’m yet to be convinced by Mitchell.

I’d rest Roberts Tuesday, give Mitchell another go but alongside Wootton and go for the jugular. They all need a really good win and some goals to get back on track and they’ve got an opportunity to do that on Tuesday night before some very difficult looking games.

Sounds like Cal Roberts may well be injured, but I doubt we’d have played him on Tuesday night anyway.

One of the problems this season has been Roberts’ struggles to recapture his form before he got injured last season. I know things have changed a lot over the years in terms of treating injuries, but at the moment I’m thinking of Aidy Thorpe. He too came into the side and was an instant hit for us - a joy to watch who scored some terrific goals. Never quite the same after his injury in that Sherpa Van win against Brighton.

I’d stick Ruben on the bench on Tuesday, start with Wootton and Mitchell up top together. I’d also start Vincent because, if not now, when?

Let’s see who we get in the draw tomorrow, and hopefully it’ll be an incentive to finish the job on Tuesday. Hard to see more than 1,500 turning up, though.

[Big Bob]

I went today and it was utter garbage. Worst squad than last season

[magpie_mania]

Marine Fc (NL step 4) 1 Wrexham 1
Pontefract Colleries (step 4) 0 Halifax 0
Tamworth (step 3) 0. Notts 0

We aren't the only ones!

[keldsyke]

Marine Fc (NL step 4) 1 Wrexham 1
Pontefract Colleries (step 4) 0 Halifax 0
Tamworth (step 3) 0. Notts 0

We aren't the only ones!

Stamford 0 Stockport 3

Bromsgrove 0 Grimsby 5

Curzon 0 Chesterfield 4

Southend 4 Chertsey 1

[KCNotts]

I went today and it was utter garbage. Worst squad than last season

Interesting that you mentioned squad. That really was the extent of our squad today wasn't it? Who else could we have brought in? Knight, Lacey, JOB?

The manager cleary doesn't fancy Vincent (who is this season's Wolfe) so where does he turn to change things? The same under performing players will continue to play each week. Only Rodders is in any sort of form.

[CamPie]

Marine Fc (NL step 4) 1 Wrexham 1
Pontefract Colleries (step 4) 0 Halifax 0
Tamworth (step 3) 0. Notts 0

We aren't the only ones!

Don’t know the steps but also:

Bowers and Pitsea 2 Aldershot 1
Dover 1 Yate Town 1
Eastleigh 3 Folkestone Invicta 3 (I think this was 0-3 at one point?
Horsham 1 Woking 0
Torquay 2 Havant and Waterlooville 2

A lot of National League clubs will have disappointed fans this evening.

[magpie_mania]

Stamford 0 Stockport 3

Bromsgrove 0 Grimsby 5

Curzon 0 Chesterfield 4

And?

My point is that Halifax and Wrexham results are arguably worse than ours.

I was waiting for you or someone else to post this. I guess some of us want to look for a positive while others prefer the negative.

[maddogslater]

Mitchell garbage, Taylor garbage, Sam just slightly better garbage, Roberts, a shadow of his former self, Francis lightweight, MOTM, take your pick from Rodrigues, Palmer or Nemanine all excellent today, Ian Burchnall = sleepy Joe

[bule1]

Comfidence makes a huge difference, a win in the replay "could" be what we need.

[keldsyke]

And?

My point is that Halifax and Wrexham results are arguably worse than ours.

I was waiting for you or someone else to post this. I guess some of us want to look for a positive while others prefer the negative.

Not at all. As I posted elsewhere it’s a continuation of the poor performances before the two copitulations (and then a win away at Yeovil). You can bury your head in the sand, or put your hands over your ears but the performances haven’t been good enough and we’ve been lucky in some games. Hopefully we can play football against the leading teams in games coming up and get some results but don’t kid yourself that all’s well, try a bit of balance on both sides. Which game this season do you think has been our best performance besides Barnet?

[crazyfists]

I think we try to play pretty football rather than good football. I think we have to give Burchnall this season at least unless we are in danger of relegation, but my confidence in this stats based approach the owners and coach are adopting actually getting us promoted are diminishing with each game. I keep reading that “once Burchnall sorts it we’ll be fine”. But what if he doesn’t sort it? Does anyone think we look closer to a promotion team now than we did at the end of last season? I think the main problems remain unresolved.

This isn’t meltdown or knee-jerk over a disappointing result, it’s something I’ve thought for ages.

This. On the plus side we did have alot of shots but we are just missing clicking into a top team and putting teams to the sword. Next few games very important but think we'll win the reply. As for promotion then not confident at the moment.

COYP

[magpie_mania]

Not at all. As I posted elsewhere it’s a continuation of the poor performances before the two copitulations (and then a win away at Yeovil). You can bury your head in the sand, or put your hands over your ears but the performances haven’t been good enough and we’ve been lucky in some games. Hopefully we can play football against the leading teams in games coming up and get some results but don’t kid yourself that all’s well, try a bit of balance on both sides. Which game this season do you think has been our best performance besides Barnet?

I agree that performances have been poor. No burying head of hands over ears from me, and of course All isn't well. All I was pointing out is that we aren't the only ones who struggled today.

[optipez]

Comfidence makes a huge difference, a win in the replay "could" be what we need.

But the win at Yeovil wasnt? We've been consistently moderate all season. I think the team cobbled together with no pre season after relegation would beat this team at the moment.

[countygump]

But the win at Yeovil wasnt? We've been consistently moderate all season. I think the team cobbled together with no pre season after relegation would beat this team at the moment.

They would beat them easily, IMHAHO.

[Glad2BeAPie]

I agree that performances have been poor. No burying head of hands over ears from me, and of course All isn't well. All I was pointing out is that we aren't the only ones who struggled today.

It's not just today though is it

[SwalePie]

I understand that I'll doubtless get savaged by the negarati for this question, especially as I wasn't there, but I am trying to make sense of the disparate opinions on here and elsewhere this evening.

Question to those who attended:

If Ruben's free kick and Cal's good chance had gone in and we'd won 2 - 0 would it still have been considered a terrible performance or is it really just the underwhelming result that's getting people down?

(ETA: I'm seriously not asking this to wind people up, I just didn't get the impression that we were terrible overall today from listening to it on't wireless. Not clinical enough with finishing obviously.)

[bule1]

But the win at Yeovil wasnt? We've been consistently moderate all season. I think the team cobbled together with no pre season after relegation would beat this team at the moment.

It could have been yes, but obviously not. Perhaps we need a few wins to get that vibe, perhaps I am just a dumb optimist, could well be the latter

[Elite_Pie]

And?

My point is that Halifax and Wrexham results are arguably worse than ours.

I was waiting for you or someone else to post this. I guess some of us want to look for a positive while others prefer the negative.

If you can see 0-0 at Tamworth with the side we put out as a positive m_m, I can only admire you. There will always be teams that have arguably worse results than us, but it still doesn’t change our result. It’s time for the excuses to stop if we want to move forward.

[magpie_mania]

It's not just today though is it

Edit 'All I was pointing out is that we aren't the only ones who struggled against lower league opposition this afternoon'.

Does that make it clearer what I was meaning?

[optipez]

It could have been yes, but obviously not. Perhaps we need a few wins to get that vibe, perhaps I am just a dumb optimist, could well be the latter

Nothing wrong with optimism, being negative is easy, most teams aren't successful most seasons, it's an easy call to say we're not good enough and be right 40 times in the last 45 seasons.

[magpie_mania]

If you can see 0-0 at Tamworth with the side we put out as a positive m_m, I can only admire you. There will always be teams that have arguably worse results than us, but it still doesn’t change our result. It’s time for the excuses to stop if we want to move forward.

I think you probably know I was not meaning that the result was positive. We should have won, no doubt about it.

I was simply putting it into perspective and making a point that others struggled even more.

I am sure that if we had scored 4 then some would have still pointed out that Grimsby scored 5, why didn't we? (Not you).

[Elite_Pie]

Nothing wrong with optimism, being negative is easy, most teams aren't successful most seasons, it's an easy call to say we're not good enough and be right 40 times in the last 45 seasons.

True, but seeing our position (given the level we are currently at) as acceptable isn’t for me.

[optipez]

True, but seeing our position (given the level we are currently at) as acceptable isn’t for me.

Nor me, I think we're failing and that Burchnall is facing a month that could make or break him.
I just didn't want it to seem like I was having a bash at Bule for being hopeful.

[Elite_Pie]

Nor me, I think we're failing and that Burchnall is facing a month that could make or break him.
I just didn't want it to seem like I was having a bash at Bule for being hopeful.

I would love to join the positive gang, but I’ve not yet seen anywhere near enough to tempt me. My increasing concern is that we have owners who are trying to play a kind of computer game with a real football club. It will be great if they triumph, but in my opinion the approach they are taking is based on data that won’t be particularly effective at this level.

[countygump]

https://youtu.be/pixwCfo8pR4

[laddo]

We are looking at more than one or two. Striker, central midfielder, two wingbacks and a commanding centre half. I make that five.

You've quoted the wrong person Woody, I'm not the one who stated 1 or 2.

[laddo]

Right, so you know how long I’ll spend on there better than I do?

If you want to discuss it further take it to the correct thread rather than derailing this one.

You already beat me to it old chap.

5 mins XD

[laddo]

But the win at Yeovil wasnt? We've been consistently moderate all season. I think the team cobbled together with no pre season after relegation would beat this team at the moment.

Don't mention "no preseason" that's guaranteed to upset a few they don't believe it. They won't believe it.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

I would love to join the positive gang, but I’ve not yet seen anywhere near enough to tempt me. My increasing concern is that we have owners who are trying to play a kind of computer game with a real football club. It will be great if they triumph, but in my opinion the approach they are taking is based on data that won’t be particularly effective at this level.

I think we have to persist with it. We’ve hardly been successful doing it the non “computer game” way.

Worth trying for a few seasons at least (of which this is still really only the second)

[MAD_MAGPIE]

I didn't attend the game today or listen to it on the radio and have only read the comments on here. On the face of it a 0-0 draw against a part-time team two leagues below us is dissapointing.

It's results like this that for me just emphasise how far this club has fallen. I know we got knocked out by non-league sides when we were much higher, and we have not been beaten or knocked out but we shouldn't need to be having as many chances as we did today by the sounds of it and not score a single goal. We need to be far more clinical and more ruthless in front of goal when the opportunity to score presents itself like we did on the opening day against Barnet.

It could have been worse, it wasn't as bad a result as Hornchurch last season, which for me was the worst defeat in our history. What we need to do is put them to the sword at Meadow Lane on Tuesday and be ruthless and build some confidence.

[hissingdwarf]

https://youtu.be/pixwCfo8pR4

Problem is, this interview is pretty much rinse and repeat for last few weeks.

[Elite_Pie]

You already beat me to it old chap.

5 mins XD

Ok, I’ll take it to the correct thread.

[maddogslater]

Turn the record over Burchnall

[uysapie]

Turn the record over Burchnall

It's an LP, this side isn't worn out yet.

[LaxtonLad]

Well let me think. How about one that actually loses the game for starters? Next how about one that concedes against lowly Tamworth?


...or one that throws away a two goal lead against ten men? Or one that loses 4-1 at home after scoring first?

[laddo]

I think we have to persist with it. We’ve hardly been successful doing it the non “computer game” way.

Worth trying for a few seasons at least (of which this is still really only the second)

At least!

Thank you Don been hoping someone other than me would put something like that.

[laddo]

Nothing wrong with optimism, being negative is easy, most teams aren't successful most seasons, it's an easy call to say we're not good enough and be right 40 times in the last 45 seasons.

Boom!

I've been dropping this truth bomb on here for a while now, it's the really easy option the odds on viewpoint every season.

Hopefully folks starting to hear it from a different sources will help with the understanding and realisation that if you want to be right lots just predict your club, manager, players, signings won't be a success. But we still need a few more to join in to help the cause and get the message across.

Thank you Optipez.

[queenslandpie]

At least!

Thank you Don been hoping someone other than me would put something like that.

I am not saying what is the right way and what is the wrong way as frankly I do not know but what I have noticed in the past few weeks both on this board and on social media is a lot of Notts fans basically saying the current "method" is boring and they are questioning going to games. This reminds me of the times under Ray Trews tenure when fans commenced staying away due to the tedious nature of games and this if memory serves me correctly forced him to wield the axe. Laddo if we keep playing tedious football and the attendances drive down as a result what is your opinion on that?

[maddogslater]

When it works it looks great to me, but we are missing a ruthlessness, cutting edge in front of goal ànd steel in the midfield, until we solve that we're going nowhere.

[maddogslater]

Boom!

I've been dropping this truth bomb on here for a while now, it's the really easy option the odds on viewpoint every season.

Hopefully folks starting to hear it from a different sources will help with the understanding and realisation that if you want to be right lots just predict your club, manager, players, signings won't be a success. But we still need a few more to join in to help the cause and get the message across.

Thank you Optipez.
This is total nonsense, crazy talk, fine if we were in league one or the championship, but it's the national league for goodness sake.

[i961pie]

Did Notts and Stags play today ?
Radio Red seem to have forgotten.

Where we both are you can't blame them.

[countygump]

Bit of yesterday's action from Mr Groundhopping FC. He makes a salient point on 7 mins 50 secs!



https://youtu.be/Bql9wFfW8Vw

[laddo]

This is total nonsense, crazy talk, fine if we were in league one or the championship, but it's the national league for goodness sake.

Total nonsense/Crazy talk or actually fact and statistically accurate. It's all linked to mathematics, probability and percentages. The league you are in makes absolutely no difference every FL/NL team is in the league they are in cos they weren't good enough to be at the level higher. The majority of clubs are unsuccessful each season, the majority of managers fail their objective and the majority of signings don't work. It's not a 50:50 coin flip for each as some seem to pretend it is. I wish it was.

As MDS has just illustrated and as I suspected it looks like I need help from more than Optipez on this one.

[Elite_Pie]

Total nonsense/Crazy talk or actually fact and statistically accurate. It's all linked to mathematics, probability and percentages. The league you are in makes absolutely no difference every FL/NL team is in the league they are in cos they weren't good enough to be at the level higher. The majority of clubs are unsuccessful each season, the majority of managers fail their objective and the majority of signings don't work. It's not a 50:50 coin flip for each as some seem to pretend it is. I wish it was.

As MDS has just illustrated and as I suspected it looks like I need help from more than Optipez on this one.

So if we drop to National League North will you still be saying that? Some people seem happy to accept failure.

[Elite_Pie]

I think we have to persist with it. We’ve hardly been successful doing it the non “computer game” way.

Worth trying for a few seasons at least (of which this is still really only the second)

It’s worth trying as long as there are signs that it will succeed. I haven’t seen any yet.

[laddo]

So if we drop to National League North will you still be saying that? Some people seem happy to accept failure.

Yes the same facts no matter what division you are talking about. If you get relegated it's because you deserve to be.

The above truth bomb isn't about expectations as fans it's about facts. The history books don't lie say.

Who's specifically is happy accepting failure on here? If you aren't happy what's your plan? Protests against the owners behind the DP stand? Messages written on bedsheets demanding the Head Coach is sacked? Boycott games? A strongly worded letter to the club?

What's the grand plan for the disgruntled moan on NCM?

[Elite_Pie]

Yes the same facts no matter what division you are talking about. If you get relegated it's because you deserve to be.

The above truth bomb isn't about expectations as fans it's about facts. The history books don't lie say.

Who's specifically is happy accepting failure on here? If you aren't happy what's your plan? Protests against the owners behind the DP stand? Messages written on bedsheets demanding the Head Coach is sacked? Boycott games? A strongly worded letter to the club?

What's the grand plan for the disgruntled moan on NCM?

The plan is the same as it’s always been, support the club as best I can and hope things improve.

I wonder if Liverpool fans would accept playing in League 1 because it’s statistically difficult to get out of?

[maddogslater]

I'm sure laddo is in a alternative universe with this argument, he just can't grasp the point I and elite have just made to him.

[sidders]

Should win the replay.

Think we've only lost twice at home to a team two leagues below us in the FA Cup since 1959. To Peterborough in 1981 and to Havant and Waterlooville in 2007.

Rhyl?

[upthemaggies]

Notts drew 0-0 at Hendon in the FA Cup in 1998 under Allardyce, a club that has never been in tier 5 or 6 since those leagues became part of the Conferemce/NL. So taken in isolation - drawing at Tamworth is not a big deal if (as you'd expect) we win the replay. In the context of this season however, it doesn't exactly fill you with hope for the league games coming up. Are we really not in a position to loan a forward or two from somewhere that might be the spark that gets Notts going again?

[matt_magpie]

For me the facts are we probably have around the 5th best budget, so if we come above that then IB has over achieved. If we had the best budget in the league I would be concerned right now which I imagine the fans of Wrexham and Stockport are. As long as Grimsby don’t just run away it the leagues wide open at the moment and I do believe the club will invest if they believe we are definitely short in a couple of areas.

[upthemaggies]

Rhyl?

That was before Bath in 1959, but yes - that was at home and we were in tier 2 at the time, Rhyl would have been the equivalent of tier 6 at best. All things weighed up I don't think the club will ever suffer a worse result than that in a cup competition but fewer and fewer remember it now.

[keldsyke]

The plan is the same as it’s always been, support the club as best I can and hope things improve.

I wonder if Liverpool fans would accept playing in League 1 because it’s statistically difficult to get out of?

Taking this a bit further (and hopefully in a months time we will be kicking on so this is a hypothetical question ) if things don’t go to plan over the next couple of months or so do you / we think that the Board and IB will be brave enough to change the ‘philosophy’ if we are near the bottom 3 to avoid the dreaded drop?

[queenslandpie]

Notts drew 0-0 at Hendon in the FA Cup in 1998 under Allardyce, a club that has never been in tier 5 or 6 since those leagues became part of the Conferemce/NL. So taken in isolation - drawing at Tamworth is not a big deal if (as you'd expect) we win the replay. In the context of this season however, it doesn't exactly fill you with hope for the league games coming up. Are we really not in a position to loan a forward or two from somewhere that might be the spark that gets Notts going again?

Whats happening with the Knight bloke we signed who seemed to be ( pardon my phrase) the ' great white hope' and then played a few games and turned out to be nothing much at all just like the current forward line.

[upthemaggies]

Taking this a bit further (and hopefully in a months time we will be kicking on so this is a hypothetical question ) if things don’t go to plan over the next couple of months or so do you / we think that the Board and IB will be brave enough to change the ‘philosophy’ if we are near the bottom 3 to avoid the dreaded drop?

Notts won't drop that far down. We've seen enough of this league to know you have to be really REALLY bad just to fall out of the play off zone for any notable length of time. To be down in the mix with the likes of Weymouth and Kings Lynn we'd have to be drained of all confidence (like Southend on the back of a double relegation) or with serious problems behind the scenes with players not getting paid or something like that.
Can't see us ever being in a relegation battle at this level so long as the club is being even semi-competently run.

[SwalePie]

Whats happening with the Knight bloke we signed who seemed to be ( pardon my phrase) the ' great white hope' and then played a few games and turned out to be nothing much at all just like the current forward line.

Wasn't he a long term injury and then pulled a hamstring on his return a few weeks ago?

[nw6pie]

It’s worth trying as long as there are signs that it will succeed. I haven’t seen any yet.

The question is, how long do you want to give IB/the owners to try to get it right? Personally, I think we've got to give it all of this season and the first half of next, barring a complete collapse where he plummet alarmingly down the table.

This is quite interesting re Liverpool under Klopp (taken from a BBC story about Solskjaer):

"In his first 104 games at Liverpool. Klopp won 196 league points, while Solskjaer has claimed 194 in the same time at United. Victory on Saturday would have had him ahead of Klopp's record.

"But the problem for Solskjaer is that the pace gets a lot faster from this point on. In Klopp's next 123 Premier League games, he won 283 points at an average of 2.30 per game, up from 1.88."

In other word, Klopp was given over two seasons to get it right.

Based on the stats, I don't think we're far off challenging for the top three but we need a couple of improvements on what we currently have in the first XI: a goalscorer and a midfield dynamo. A good run in the FA Cup could potentially allow us to bring these options in, which is why Tuesday's replay (and today's draw) are so important.

On another note, does anyone who saw Mitchell yesterday think he can come good? Or do we need to send him out on loan (back to King's Lynn, maybe, where he did well) in the hope he gets his confidence back?

[optipez]

Yes the same facts no matter what division you are talking about. If you get relegated it's because you deserve to be.

The above truth bomb isn't about expectations as fans it's about facts. The history books don't lie say.

Who's specifically is happy accepting failure on here? If you aren't happy what's your plan? Protests against the owners behind the DP stand? Messages written on bedsheets demanding the Head Coach is sacked? Boycott games? A strongly worded letter to the club?

What's the grand plan for the disgruntled moan on NCM?

The owners will presumably use the same parameters they did to sack Ardley, namely falling behind the necessary PPG. They might also compare if Slocombe, JOB, Brindley, Roberts and all the other players who were playing under Ardley are performing to the same standard or better. I'd hazard a guess that only Rodriguess has moved forwards under Burch.
Finally they should examine themselves and question whether players like Francis, Vincent and Taylor are upgrades on Rose, Booty and Miller.
Maybe what we need is a genuinely good manager. I think it's a tad arrogant to presume the likes of Paul Hurst or Dave Challinor have less knowledge than Football Radar despite having been pro footballers, successful managers and being able to do it under strict financial parameters. They've both had failures too but like Ardley have better CVs than Burchnall does.
I was a big defender of Ardley, always thought that luck conspired against him and I'm not anti Burchnall either but I'm less convinced by him and wouldn't want to give him as long as Ardley got if next month goes badly. He inherited a decent squad , had a decent time to look at them last season, had a full pre-season and a good budget and so far we've failed to beat a top half team and haven't dug out a result that I've thought was against the odds, the kind of result that makes you think we've got something going and are in with a shout.

[upthemaggies]

The owners will presumably use the same parameters they did to sack Ardley, namely falling behind the necessary PPG. .

Curiously, on the day Ardley was sacked our PPG for that season was 1.70
At the end of the season it was 1,67

This season is currently 1.64

[Elite_Pie]

The question is, how long do you want to give IB/the owners to try to get it right? Personally, I think we've got to give it all of this season and the first half of next, barring a complete collapse where he plummet alarmingly down the table.


I would agree with that. We have to give it longer, but I’m struggling to see how we’ve moved forward from last season.

[upthemaggies]

Cup draw about to start on itv

[countygump]

I would agree with that. We have to give it longer, but I’m struggling to see how we’ve moved forward from last season.

If you measure it solely by League position, as every season passes, we seem to be going backwards rather than forwards.

[upthemaggies]

Away to rochdale


Stags at Sunderland

[countygump]

Away to rochdale


Stags at Sunderland

Typical chit draw.

[upthemaggies]

Typical chit draw.

This will be the 3rd meeting in the FA Cup, both the two previous meetings were in Round 2, the first away, the second at home.
We went up there in 1949 when 24,231 squeezed into Spotland to see us win 2-1 with Tommy Lawton scoring and setting up a home 3rd round tie against Burnley which would be watched by 44,000.

Last FA Cup meeting with them was 1996/97 (which I was at)....

NOTTS COUNTY 3
Jones 41
Arkins 70
Agana 90

ROCHDALE 1
Thackeray 83

HT 1-0

Attendance :- 3,584
Referee:- A. Wilkie (Chester-le-Street)
Weather:- Foggy

NOTTS COUNTY
Colours:- Black & white striped shirts, Black shorts, White socks, Yellow trimmings
League Position:- 22nd/24 in the 3rd tier
Manager:- Colin Murphy

1. Darren Ward
2. Chris Wilder
3. Ian Baraclough
4. Graeme Hogg
5. Gary Strodder
6. Shaun Derry
7. Steve Finnan
8. Phil Robinson
9. Vinny Arkins +
10. Gary Jones
11. Peter Kennedy *

Sub: Tony Battersby *61
Sub: Tony Agana +90
Not used: Richard Walker

ROCHDALE
Colours:- ?Blue shirts, White shorts, Blue socks?
League Position:- 16th/24 in the 4th tier
Manager:- Graham Barrow

1. Ian Gray
2. Andy Fensome
3. David Bayliss
4. Alan Johnson
5. Keith Hill
6. Andy Farrell
7. Mike Bailey +
8. John Deary
9. Mike Cecere *
10. Steve Whitehall
11. Robbie Painter

Sub: David Thompson *60
Sub: Andy Thackeray +75
Not used: Alex Russell

We then played Aston Villa in the 3rd round.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

It’s worth trying as long as there are signs that it will succeed. I haven’t seen any yet.

What’s your success value? Promotion? If so, are we not still in contention? Are we out of the promotion race?

[BigFatPie]

Who the effing ell was Peter Kennedy?

[Elite_Pie]

Typical chit draw.

I don’t know if anyone has the true numbers, but we seem to get two out of three away draws in cup competitions over the last decade.

I wonder if Rochdale fans will chant “Six**** points and you f*cked it up (much worse than we did)”?

[Elite_Pie]

What’s your success value? Promotion?

Yes, promotion.


If so, are we not still in contention? Are we out of the promotion race?

We are still in contention, and we are not out of the promotion race. I never suggested otherwise.

[upthemaggies]

Who the effing ell was Peter Kennedy?


Came from Northern Ireland and was later capped 20 times, so half decent but only had half a season with us before leaving for Watford.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Yes, promotion

We are still in contention, and we are not out of the promotion race. I never suggested otherwise.

Then my point about giving it more time stands.

And it’s seems you simply have a lack confidence in its success rather disagreeing with it.

I think that’s fair.

[upthemaggies]

I don’t know if anyone has the true numbers, but we seem to get two out of three away draws in cup competitions over the last decade.

I wonder if Rochdale fans will chant “Six**** points and you f*cked it up (much worse than we did)”?

It's the 5th time in 6 FA Cup draws that we've been drawn away.

Part of the reason we struggled so badly in the 1960s financially might be blamed on the same bad luck. Five successive away ties and we lost all of them.

All three ties in our run to the 5th round in 1978 (climaxing at Millwall) were also away.

And famously we didn't play a home FA Cup tie at Meadow Lane until 10 years after moving in.

[countygump]

I don’t know if anyone has the true numbers, but we seem to get two out of three away draws in cup competitions over the last decade.

I wonder if Rochdale fans will chant “Six**** points and you f*cked it up (much worse than we did)”?


Oh yes , I remember it well..............




https://youtu.be/2WhK8VA1WLs

[Elite_Pie]

Then my point about giving it more time stands.

And it’s seems you simply have a lack confidence in its success rather disagreeing with it.

I think that’s fair.

I can’t see it succeeding in its current form, but we are too far in to abandon it. Let’s say I would like to see it tweaked.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

I don’t know if anyone has the true numbers, but we seem to get two out of three away draws in cup competitions over the last decade.

I wonder if Rochdale fans will chant “Six**** points and you f*cked it up (much worse than we did)”?

Doubt it, they are in a complete mess off the field and there are worries they're the next Bury

[BigFatPie]

Came from Northern Ireland and was later capped 20 times, so half decent but only had half a season with us before leaving for Watford.

Ah, cheers. The Watford bit rings a bell.

[cocopops61]

Doubt it, they are in a complete mess off the field and there are worries they're the next Bury

That's completely wrong,they've got a Trust that's for over 1200 members and a representative on the board of RAFC,they've had a complete boardroom clear out of shysters that was using the club for their own gains,although they was Burys biggest rivals they did warn them of what might happen under their ownership but they chose to ignore it,I would say that RAFC are stronger now than at any time in there recent past

[Elite_Pie]

That's completely wrong,they've got a Trust that's for over 1200 members and a representative on the board of RAFC,they've had a complete boardroom clear out of shysters that was using the club for their own gains,although they was Burys biggest rivals they did warn them of what might happen under their ownership but they chose to ignore it,I would say that RAFC are stronger now than at any time in there recent past

They’ve got a Trust and a representative on the board?

What could possibly go wrong?

[Chicken Balti Pie]

That's completely wrong,they've got a Trust that's for over 1200 members and a representative on the board of RAFC,they've had a complete boardroom clear out of shysters that was using the club for their own gains,although they was Burys biggest rivals they did warn them of what might happen under their ownership but they chose to ignore it,I would say that RAFC are stronger now than at any time in there recent past

So they haven't had over 40% of their shares bought by Morton House without getting the EFL fit and proper persons test and are under investigation? And a potential ownership battle do to a deal with the chap that nearly destroyed Charlton? They sound in a really strong position...

[cocopops61]

Go over to the Rochdale forum it's all on there,it's far to complicated for me to explain in one post

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Go over to the Rochdale forum it's all on there,it's far to complicated for me to explain in one post

Go back 10 years and see how Notts fans had their head in the sand with Munto, go back 4 years and see how we had our heads in the sand with Hardy. Football fans don't want to hear bad things about their club

[Blackdogblue]

Go back 10 years and see how Notts fans had their head in the sand with Munto, go back 4 years and see how we had our heads in the sand with Hardy. Football fans don't want to hear bad things about their club


As Chalky has said, there are pages & pages on the Rochdale Forum around hostile takeover attempts & recently the support offered by Charlton Fans & their forum equivalent on another dodgy ex owner of theirs looking to hoover up shares bought but not registered..

Hopefully you beat Tamworth & apparently there is something about a wheelbarrow to be heard…

Rochdale is a friendly family ground & welcomes all decent fans…

[laddo]

Go back 10 years and see how Notts fans had their head in the sand with Munto, go back 4 years and see how we had our heads in the sand with Hardy. Football fans don't want to hear bad things about their club

Its a good point well made.

Munto was so unbelievable I viewed it as a rollercoaster. Just strap yourself in and see what happens, enjoy it at the time, as I can't control the ride. Although I never once sang "There's only one Peter Trembling" like the Kop did, I found that a little embarrassing.

Hardy was different I was told first hand by someone very closely connected with the club during a prior ownership that Hardy "didn't have enough money" to buy and then run Notts long term.

And so it proved sadly.

[bule1]

Did not think the root cause of Hardy's debacle was money. Thought it was more a general incometence and mismanagement of the club.

[laddo]

Did not think the root cause of Hardy's debacle was money. Thought it was more a general incometence and mismanagement of the club.

It wasn't. Incompetence, mismanagement and I'd suggest reckless over enthusiasm were IMO.

The amount of money in the bank only determines how long you can keep the wolf from the door if you decide down the above route. At some point you are going to be left needing to sell up and cut your considerable losses.

[bule1]

Many teams on a lot lower budget than us, now and then make a good go of league 1 & 2. Agree with the reckless enthusiasm point though, never buy the club you support. Business sense goes out of the window if you do as he proved, that is where the incompetence comes in, not being able to differentiate between head and heart.

[SwalePie]

https://youtu.be/IBcIKPDeGgk

[queenslandpie]

https://youtu.be/IBcIKPDeGgk

Cheers Swale looked all Notts but didn't see Roberts do much other than one chance he spurned.

[nw6pie]

Cheers Swale looked all Notts but didn't see Roberts do much other than one chance he spurned.

Some very nice passages of play up to their penalty area, but we only really opened them up once and Cal should have scored from it.