Suella Braverman

[army88]

At last someone with balls to speak up and actually say / recognise what is happening to our country - the woke MPs didn’t like that speech - shame she’s of colour or she’d have been a racist bigot today.
Posted before that we left Europe in the main because of illegal immigration, the average man was sick and tired of struggling to support his family and watching our elderly and ex servicemen left like dirt on the streets while the illegals live like kings and queens ( don’t forget many are complaining it’s not good enough)

Rishi says tax hikes are coming ( we all expected that I think after - grants and loans in lockdown ) someone has to pay for it - I read latest figures from home office though are 6.8 million a day to keep illegal immigrants 2.48 billion a year - this would be a great starting point for me and this government might just score a few points and win a few more votes if they actually deliver on what imo anyway was the reason we left the EU.

[sinkov]

At last someone with balls to speak up and actually say / recognise what is happening to our country - the woke MPs didn’t like that speech - shame she’s of colour or she’d have been a racist bigot today.
Posted before that we left Europe in the main because of illegal immigration, the average man was sick and tired of struggling to support his family and watching our elderly and ex servicemen left like dirt on the streets while the illegals live like kings and queens ( don’t forget many are complaining it’s not good enough)

Rishi says tax hikes are coming ( we all expected that I think after - grants and loans in lockdown ) someone has to pay for it - I read latest figures from home office though are 6.8 million a day to keep illegal immigrants 2.48 billion a year - this would be a great starting point for me and this government might just score a few points and win a few more votes if they actually deliver on what imo anyway was the reason we left the EU.

This is not going to go down well with our resident Lefty army, expect him on soon, with his usual cut and paste, infantile Grauniad drivel. When the Loony Left are chucking their toys out of the pram, you just know she's on the right lines.

Oh and don't mention Elon Musk to Lefties either army, he's sent them into full meltdown mode as well. :o

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The right-wing zealots in the UK will no doubt love this stupid bitch.

Sunak needs his head examining, she was sacked for a major national security breach and a week later it's swept under the carpet.

It's time for a grown-up conversation about immigration, the trouble is with the Toxic Party and its rabidly racist supporters it's just always all about skin colour, and never people.

Army88, I think it's time you started going into meltdown about the French, those f*ckers are loading the boats and wishing the passengers bon voyage.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

This is not going to go down well with our resident Lefty army, expect him on soon, with his usual cut and paste, infantile Grauniad drivel. When the Loony Left are chucking their toys out of the pram, you just know she's on the right lines.

Oh and don't mention Elon Musk to Lefties either army, he's sent them into full meltdown mode as well. :o

I'll leave the final word from the supercilious bitch herself, she admitted the *immigration system was “broken”, after 12 years of Toxic Party rule. I forget to remind myself to ask the loony right fringe on here, where from did she spring herself upon us. :confused:

Her father, is of Goan ancestry (who formerly was an Indian in Kenya), worked for a housing association. (Oh, the fecking irony!) She is the niece of Mahen Kundasamy, a former Mauritian High Commissioner to London. You can't beat a good old Anglo-Saxon heritage can you sinkov. XD

[sinkov]

I'll leave the final word from the supercilious bitch herself, she admitted the *immigration system was “broken”, after 12 years of Toxic Party rule. I forget to remind myself to ask the loony right fringe on here, where from did she spring herself upon us. :confused:

Her father, is of Goan ancestry (who formerly was an Indian in Kenya), worked for a housing association. (Oh, the fecking irony!) She is the niece of Mahen Kundasamy, a former Mauritian High Commissioner to London. You can't beat a good old Anglo-Saxon heritage can you sinkov. XD

How many times do I have to point out to you mon ami, that Labour or Tory, it doesn't make any difference, it doesn't make any difference who the Home Sec is, our politicians are irrelevant. They can only do what they are allowed to do, and sorting out our borders is quite onviously beyond them, it must be or it would have been done by now. When is the penny going to drop ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

How many times do I have to point out to you mon ami, that Labour or Tory, it doesn't make any difference, it doesn't make any difference who the Home Sec is, our politicians are irrelevant. They can only do what they are allowed to do, and sorting out our borders is quite onviously beyond them, it must be or it would have been done by now. When is the penny going to drop ?

Like Braveman said 12 years of the Toxic Party hasn't resolved it, perhaps the Labour Party should have a go?

[Deadlydave]

Like Braveman said 12 years of the Toxic Party hasn't resolved it, perhaps the Labour Party should have a go?

BT, the Labour party is full of progressive Cultural Marxists who don't really believe in borders. As long as you are paying for the migrants and we have Hotels to fill up then they will not do a dam thing. Politicians with no balls have allowed this mess to continue. I just wish that there were more with Baverman's balls in our laughable political class. But don't worry they are planning to reduce farming globally for your benefits at COP27. Planned starvation is on the cards. Then we really will see an "Invasion".

[Swissclaret]

To be honest, I don’t understand what the problem is for Britain. The politicians are making such a meal of it.

Genuine asylum seekers, yes. Economic migrants, no.

In 1979 I left to go to the Bahamas. Work permit required. No permit, feck off.

In 1983 I went to the Cayman Islands. Work permit required. No permit, feck off.

In 1984 I went to Jersey. Work permit required. No permit, feck off.

In 1987 I went to the Cayman Island. Work permit required. No permit, feck off.

In 1996 I went to Jersey. Work permit required. No permit, feck off.

A few years in England then 2007 I went to Switzerland. Work permit required. No permit, feck off.

In all situations, if you don’t like the country or how you are treated, feck off.

All driven by what the host country needs to improve its economy and society. No need or improvement, feck off.

Australia had a problem with Vietnamese, illegal immigrants. They shipped them back to Vietnam.

Is that all so difficult? If Britain has a need for plumbers, doctors, nurses, whatever - skilled labour, bring them in on work permits. It is not rocket science.

If they are economic migrants, show them the door. Enter by legal means only.

It is not about scoring political points, which I find pathetic. It is about the best interests of the country and what it needs to improve society.

[sinkov]

Like Braveman said 12 years of the Toxic Party hasn't resolved it, perhaps the Labour Party should have a go?

What will/can a Labour Home Sec do to resolve the problem, that numerous Tory Home Secs haven't tried ?

[sinkov]

Her father, is of Goan ancestry (who formerly was an Indian in Kenya), worked for a housing association. (Oh, the fecking irony!) She is the niece of Mahen Kundasamy, a former Mauritian High Commissioner to London. You can't beat a good old Anglo-Saxon heritage can you sinkov. XD

You seem to have a problem with this mon ami, but not to worry, it could be worse for you, at least she's not Jewish.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You seem to have a problem with this mon ami, but not to worry, it could be worse for you, at least she's not Jewish.

You never do get irony do you sinkov. Braverman talks about an "immigrant invasion". Bit rich with someone of her heritage.

[army88]

The right-wing zealots in the UK will no doubt love this stupid bitch.

Sunak needs his head examining, she was sacked for a major national security breach and a week later it's swept under the carpet.

It's time for a grown-up conversation about immigration, the trouble is with the Toxic Party and its rabidly racist supporters it's just always all about skin colour, and never people.

Army88, I think it's time you started going into meltdown about the French, those f*ckers are loading the boats and wishing the passengers bon voyage.

To be honest BT that’s all that’s happend people having so called grown up talks about immigration, racism - define that for me ?because the more I see and read we’re all racist now , if you have anything like an opinion or n anything including the elephant in the room - immigration.

The French are complicit, but be honest now BT we could stop that in a breath , simply turn the boats around and send them back, that would stop the French in their tracks.

I find it amazing that when a truth leaves the lips of a politician ( not often I know unless it benefits them) , that instantly the race card is pulled and all the softies go on the defensive about how we should do more.

They’re coming here because we are the land of milk and honey , everyone in the world knows that, be interesting to see if like a referendum they could ask the public what they think.

Lastly BT I’m not a ring wing zealot in any shape or form, but I do agree with what she said.

[sinkov]

A little glimpse into how this country works, the Citizens Advice Bureau in 2019/20 received something over £130 million of government funding. In reality the government doesn't have any money of it's own, what it gives to CAB, is taxpayer's money, your money, my money, and what taxpayer would complain about such a sensible use of their money, to provide assistance to good, honest citizens who may be in need of help, but for whatever reason don't how to find it or are simply incapable of accessing it.

Or so us mug taxpayers may have thought, look at this, from the CA website,

"Your options if you're in the UK illegally"

If you're living illegally in the UK, you might be able to apply to make your stay legal. You’ll be living here illegally if you came to the UK without permission or your permission to stay has expired. You can also get help returning to your home country if you want to.

And it gets even better,

"If you can’t live in the UK legally but choose to remain here, life could be difficult."

Yes indeed, I should bloody well hope it is, isn't that the point of us all abiding by the law, life could become difficult if we don't.

"There are ways to make your stay legal. An immigration specialist will decide which applies to you. Don't worry, getting advice will be confidential - they won't tell anybody about your query."

So the CAB/taxpayer will fund your lawyer and your return home if you decide you don't like it here, and it matters not why you're here illegally, you might even be a rapist, *****phile, terrorist or just a scumbag, you're safe, no one is going to dob you in.

Truly we live in a Lunatic Asylum.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

To be honest BT that’s all that’s happend people having so called grown up talks about immigration, racism - define that for me ?because the more I see and read we’re all racist now , if you have anything like an opinion or n anything including the elephant in the room - immigration.

The French are complicit, but be honest now BT we could stop that in a breath , simply turn the boats around and send them back, that would stop the French in their tracks.

I find it amazing that when a truth leaves the lips of a politician ( not often I know unless it benefits them) , that instantly the race card is pulled and all the softies go on the defensive about how we should do more.

They’re coming here because we are the land of milk and honey , everyone in the world knows that, be interesting to see if like a referendum they could ask the public what they think.

Lastly BT I’m not a ring wing zealot in any shape or form, but I do agree with what she said.

Land of milk and f*cking honey - behave! Conditions are so bad at Manston, Braverman has had to ship 4 coachloads out today because the press are all over it and how badly people are being treat.

Our Royal Navy is so occupied blowing up ships carrying cocaine in the Caribbean the Frogs are loading dinghies from Calais to Dieppe and carrying the passengers' luggage. :mad:

The Toxic Party are f*cking useless, we live on an island FFS!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

A little glimpse into how this country works, the Citizens Advice Bureau in 2019/20 received something over £130 million of government funding. In reality the government doesn't have any money of it's own, what it gives to CAB, is taxpayer's money, your money, my money, and what taxpayer would complain about such a sensible use of their money, to provide assistance to good, honest citizens who may be in need of help, but for whatever reason don't how to find it or are simply incapable of accessing it.

Or so us mug taxpayers may have thought, look at this, from the CA website,

"Your options if you're in the UK illegally"

If you're living illegally in the UK, you might be able to apply to make your stay legal. You’ll be living here illegally if you came to the UK without permission or your permission to stay has expired. You can also get help returning to your home country if you want to.

And it gets even better,

"If you can’t live in the UK legally but choose to remain here, life could be difficult."

Yes indeed, I should bloody well hope it is, isn't that the point of us all abiding by the law, life could become difficult if we don't.

"There are ways to make your stay legal. An immigration specialist will decide which applies to you. Don't worry, getting advice will be confidential - they won't tell anybody about your query."

So the CAB/taxpayer will fund your lawyer and your return home if you decide you don't like it here, and it matters not why you're here illegally, you might even be a rapist, *****phile, terrorist or just a scumbag, you're safe, no one is going to dob you in.

Truly we live in a Lunatic Asylum.

I had a sabbatical sinkov when I was in my early fifties and finishing off my degree in Social Science. I worked for an independent CAB in Middlesbrough and Guisborough for two years.

The simple truth is the government of the day do not want their citizens to have access to benefits. The staff at the Job Centres are actively encouraged to NOT advise but deny.

And that mon ami is a fact. Incidentally, the Toxic Party have cut Citizens Advice Bureau funding to such an extent it is now no f*cking use to anyone who needs it.

If you don't believe me, by all means try and get some advice from your local CAB, I guarantee you it will be easier trying to plait your own pi$$.

[sinkov]

You never do get irony do you sinkov. Braverman talks about an "immigrant invasion". Bit rich with someone of her heritage.

I fail to see what her 'heritage' has to do with anything, why do you, and so many on the Left, have a problem with it ? What has happened here is that a Home Sec has described an invasion of immigrants as an invasion of immigrants, and the Left, as it does, has gone into meltdown. And unsurprisingly, as there is virtually no difference between them nowadays, quite a few Tories are not happy either.

So while another 1000 illegals arrived on our shores yesterday, all Lefties can wibble about is the word 'invasion'.

Truly we live in a Lunatic Asylum.

[sinkov]

What will/can a Labour Home Sec do to resolve the problem, that numerous Tory Home Secs haven't tried ?

In your own time mon ami, I can agree that the Tories haven't got a clue, so how would Labour resolve this problem ?

[army88]

Land of milk and f*cking honey - behave! Conditions are so bad at Manston, Braverman has had to ship 4 coachloads out today because the press are all over it and how badly people are being treat.

Our Royal Navy is so occupied blowing up ships carrying cocaine in the Caribbean the Frogs are loading dinghies from Calais to Dieppe and carrying the passengers' luggage. :mad:

The Toxic Party are f*cking useless, we live on an island FFS!

You’ll be eating humble pie Bt under Labour leadership we’ll have more immigration and less money for everything else for paying for it.

Stick to what I said regardless of your sympathy for them , why bother passing through several other countries to get to us if it’s not their land of milk and honey - you must be blind to it BT but I’m not - nor are thousands of immigrants coming - where else do they get looked after like here and set up in life.

We’ve got it all wrong BT in our country we can look at looking after others and genuine immigrants from Ukraine for example When and only WHEN we’ve sorted our own problems - issues and people out - as per my original post the average man / woman voted leave the Eu because immigration was spiralling out of control and they had more rights through European law , than our own people do.

It’s now worse than ever and still they come in their droves , as soon as someone questions it the outrage is beyond belief from the woke brigade or weak spineless fence sitters for fear of having an opinion that differs to the sympathisers.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You’ll be eating humble pie Bt under Labour leadership we’ll have more immigration and less money for everything else for paying for it.

Stick to what I said regardless of your sympathy for them , why bother passing through several other countries to get to us if it’s not their land of milk and honey - you must be blind to it BT but I’m not - nor are thousands of immigrants coming - where else do they get looked after like here and set up in life.

We’ve got it all wrong BT in our country we can look at looking after others and genuine immigrants from Ukraine for example When and only WHEN we’ve sorted our own problems - issues and people out - as per my original post the average man / woman voted leave the Eu because immigration was spiralling out of control and they had more rights through European law , than our own people do.

It’s now worse than ever and still they come in their droves , as soon as someone questions it the outrage is beyond belief from the woke brigade or weak spineless fence sitters for fear of having an opinion that differs to the sympathisers.

I'm not even being arsed to respond to this nonsense.

[army88]

Land of milk and f*cking honey - behave! Conditions are so bad at Manston, Braverman has had to ship 4 coachloads out today because the press are all over it and how badly people are being treat.

The reason for that BT is it can’t cope with the volume hence why their moaning because the later arrivals ( well call them )go straight to Hotel's and crisp cotton sheets , a few quid a week and free legal advice , I mean what else could you ask for - it’s horrible coming here.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I fail to see what her 'heritage' has to do with anything, why do you, and so many on the Left, have a problem with it ? What has happened here is that a Home Sec has described an invasion of immigrants as an invasion of immigrants, and the Left, as it does, has gone into meltdown. And unsurprisingly, as there is virtually no difference between them nowadays, quite a few Tories are not happy either.

So while another 1000 illegals arrived on our shores yesterday, all Lefties can wibble about is the word 'invasion'.

Truly we live in a Lunatic Asylum.

The hypocrisy is breathtaking sinkov. I know you don't do "irony" mon ami, I'll add "hypocrisy" to the list. Children of immigrants saying immigrants are not welcome. FFS!

The Toxic Party are breathtaking cowards, just tell Macron to behave himself otherwise dinghies leaving French shores will be sunk and the blood will be on his hands.

[army88]

Spoken like a true politician BT that.

[army88]

The hypocrisy is breathtaking sinkov. I know you don't do "irony" mon ami, I'll add "hypocrisy" to the list. Children of immigrants saying immigrants are not welcome. FFS!

The Toxic Party are breathtaking cowards, just tell Macron to behave himself otherwise dinghies leaving French shores will be sunk and the blood will be on his hands.

Did she / her family come on a boat illegally BT

Just asking

[sinkov]

I'm not even being arsed to respond to this nonsense.

Well respond to this nonsense then.

"What will/can a Labour Home Sec do to resolve the problem, that numerous Tory Home Secs haven't tried ?"

In your own time of course.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Well respond to this nonsense then.

"What will/can a Labour Home Sec do to resolve the problem, that numerous Tory Home Secs haven't tried ?"

In your own time of course.

Let's just stop with the rhetorical nonsense on immigration, it is NOT a crime to seek asylum, in fact it is a global citizen's right.

These are the facts:

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/top-10-facts-about-refugees-and-people-seeking-asylum/

We have a f*cking government who would rather bring in 300 dogs from Kabul than people from families who aided lads like my son-in-law who was actively engaged in fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan.

W@nkers the lot of them.

What would Labour do? Say nowt and let the Toxic party self-immolate and that is exactly what Starmer is doing.

[sinkov]

The hypocrisy is breathtaking sinkov. I know you don't do "irony" mon ami, I'll add "hypocrisy" to the list. Children of immigrants saying immigrants are not welcome. FFS!


Could you give the actual quote where she said 'immigrants are not welcome' please mon ami ? In your own time of course.

[sinkov]

What would Labour do? Say nowt and let the Toxic party self-immolate and that is exactly what Starmer is doing.

Thank you for your response mon ami, and especially your candour. So you confirm it is precisely as I suspected, the Labour Party has no more idea what to about this problem than the hapless Tories. Thank you. O:)

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Thank you for your response mon ami, and especially your candour. So you confirm it is precisely as I suspected, the Labour Party has no more idea what to about this problem than the hapless Tories. Thank you. O:)

You will be somewhat disappointed to discover that Starmer tabled a motion to the House of Commons in 2015 that we should NOT stop boats mid-channel nor return immigrants until they had a fair crack at getting asylum granted in the UK. This was of course messaged under the auspices of your favourite politician Jeremy Corbyn.

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

Neither do I mate, neither do I...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/i-don-t-trust-suella-braverman-says-senior-tory-mp/ar-AA13DcXB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=201c8c8b22594c58af975e09948b7d9c

[The Bedlington Terrier]

How many times do I have to point out to you mon ami, that Labour or Tory, it doesn't make any difference, it doesn't make any difference who the Home Sec is, our politicians are irrelevant. They can only do what they are allowed to do, and sorting out our borders is quite onviously beyond them, it must be or it would have been done by now. When is the penny going to drop ?

I'm not at all certain Starmer would have dumped these dudes at Victoria Station in the dead of winter mon ami...

https://www.trtworld.com/europe/asylum-seekers-from-manston-centre-left-high-and-dry-in-london-62211

[wanderlust]

There are multiple problems with the immigration system that lie at the door of the government.

The first is obvious - they have failed to invest in an effective and efficient "filtering" system - whist simultaneously frittering away taxpayers money on non-solutions like accommodating people in hotels. The Home Office system is antequated and employs Excel spreadsheets instead of the latest technology and they are massively understaffed as they pay peanuts and have no recruitment drive.
The facts are startling - only 4% of small boat immigrants that arrived in 2021 have had a decision. That means 96% of them are still here PLUS those who have arrived since and all these people are costing UK PLC money.
There are legal immigrants and refugees - who should be welcomed with open arms and given access to the jobs our industries are desperate to fill so they can pay taxes/pay their way.
Then there are illegal immigrants and economic migrants who should be given short shrift.
But none of this can happen whilst the Home Office can't manage it's way out of a wet paper bag and sort out the legals from the illegals quickly and efficiently.

Secondly what do we do with the illegals? Brexit cut off our returns arrangement with the EU and Johnson declined Macron's generous offer for the British to set up a "clearing house" in France. As it stands the government policy is untenable as numbers will grow and grow.
So if they're going to stay here is there a programme under which they can be put to work? I don't think it's rocket science to set up a national labour agency where industry and agriculture can access a vast pool of labour and skills to help boost our economy instead of just locking them up and paying through the nose. Plus when word got out it would be an effective deterrent for potential arrivals.

The Home Office piss poor performance, lack of investment, failure to plan ahead (they've had 12 years!) and failure to renegotiate returns agreements is beyond a joke - and we're paying for it.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There are multiple problems with the immigration system that lie at the door of the government.

The first is obvious - they have failed to invest in an effective and efficient "filtering" system - whist simultaneously frittering away taxpayers money on non-solutions like accommodating people in hotels. The Home Office system is antequated and employs Excel spreadsheets instead of the latest technology and they are massively understaffed as they pay peanuts and have no recruitment drive.
The facts are startling - only 4% of small boat immigrants that arrived in 2021 have had a decision. That means 96% of them are still here PLUS those who have arrived since and all these people are costing UK PLC money.
There are legal immigrants and refugees - who should be welcomed with open arms and given access to the jobs our industries are desperate to fill so they can pay taxes/pay their way.
Then there are illegal immigrants and economic migrants who should be given short shrift.
But none of this can happen whilst the Home Office can't manage it's way out of a wet paper bag and sort out the legals from the illegals quickly and efficiently.

Secondly what do we do with the illegals? Brexit cut off our returns arrangement with the EU and Johnson declined Macron's generous offer for the British to set up a "clearing house" in France. As it stands the government policy is untenable as numbers will grow and grow.
So if they're going to stay here is there a programme under which they can be put to work? I don't think it's rocket science to set up a national labour agency where industry and agriculture can access a vast pool of labour and skills to help boost our economy instead of just locking them up and paying through the nose. Plus when word got out it would be an effective deterrent for potential arrivals.

The Home Office piss poor performance, lack of investment, failure to plan ahead (they've had 12 years!) and failure to renegotiate returns agreements is beyond a joke - and we're paying for it.

12 years of Toxic Party governance lusty and now "immigration" is their BIG ISSUE to provide a smokescreen and diversion for everything else they have got wrong.

New Prime Minister anyone? XD

[sinkov]

Could you give the actual quote where she said 'immigrants are not welcome' please mon ami ? In your own time of course.

You're very handy with your quotes and facts usually mon ami, but this one seems to be eluding you, or maybe you've forgotten to reply. I'm not one to deny you having yet another rant, so I'll ask again,

"Could you give the actual quote where she said 'immigrants are not welcome' please mon ami ? In your own time of course."

[sinkov]

You will be somewhat disappointed to discover that Starmer tabled a motion to the House of Commons in 2015 that we should NOT stop boats mid-channel nor return immigrants until they had a fair crack at getting asylum granted in the UK. This was of course messaged under the auspices of your favourite politician Jeremy Corbyn.


Not quite sure what your point is mon ami, we do not stop boats mid channel, quite the opposite, we provide every assistance to land them in Blighty in safety, nor do we return anyone without due process being followed. There are many Human Rights/Asylum/Immigration lawyers out there, ensuring that we don't.

Seems like a bit of grandstanding from the crusty old anti-semite to me, suggesting that what we should do, is what we do do anyway.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You're very handy with your quotes and facts usually mon ami, but this one seems to be eluding you, or maybe you've forgotten to reply. I'm not one to deny you having yet another rant, so I'll ask again,

"Could you give the actual quote where she said 'immigrants are not welcome' please mon ami ? In your own time of course."

Even the Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama accused Britain of becoming like a "madhouse" with a culture of "finding scapegoats" during a migration crisis where "failed policies" are to blame. Mr Rama hit out at Suella Braverman's "crazy" choice of language in a combative Commons debate this week, where she claimed there was an "invasion on our southern coast".

If immigrants are indeed welcome mon ami, why does she just not say so.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Not quite sure what your point is mon ami, we do not stop boats mid channel, quite the opposite, we provide every assistance to land them in Blighty in safety, nor do we return anyone without due process being followed. There are many Human Rights/Asylum/Immigration lawyers out there, ensuring that we don't.

Seems like a bit of grandstanding from the crusty old anti-semite to me, suggesting that what we should do, is what we do do anyway.

Even the Express can't understand if she's in or out. She will be gone (again!) before next Friday. Mark my words. ;D

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1685050/Suella-Braverman-quits-No10-liz-Truss-Home-Secretary

[The Bedlington Terrier]

This is not going to go down well with our resident Lefty army, expect him on soon, with his usual cut and paste, infantile Grauniad drivel. When the Loony Left are chucking their toys out of the pram, you just know she's on the right lines.

Oh and don't mention Elon Musk to Lefties either army, he's sent them into full meltdown mode as well. :o

Go and get yourself a free X-Ray mon ami, Braverman's handing them out like confetti at a nun's wedding...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/charities-outrage-at-suella-braverman-s-harmful-child-migrant-x-ray-plans/ar-AA13D6w2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=15b7c1d7a6f942b384e84a96fe0e103d

You might find you are only fifty-six! ;D

[sinkov]

Let's just stop with the rhetorical nonsense on immigration, it is NOT a crime to seek asylum, in fact it is a global citizen's right.

These are the facts:



Once again mon ami, it's you spouting the nonsense, let Amnesty explain to you what an asylum seeker is,

"An asylum seeker is a person who has left their country and is seeking protection from persecution and serious human rights violations in another country,"

The overwhelming majority currently arriving are young Albanian males, their human rights are not being violated in Albania, neither are they being persecuted. They are victims of people traffickers, attempting to enter the UK illegally. Call them what you like, but asylum seekers they most certainly are not.

Did you really not know this ? B)

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Once again mon ami, it's you spouting the nonsense, let Amnesty explain to you what an asylum seeker is,

"An asylum seeker is a person who has left their country and is seeking protection from persecution and serious human rights violations in another country,"

The overwhelming majority currently arriving are young Albanian males, their human rights are not being violated in Albania, neither are they being persecuted. They are victims of people traffickers, attempting to enter the UK illegally. Call them what you like, but asylum seekers they most certainly are not.

Did you really not know this ? B)

I'm as confused as Ms Braverman is mon ami, she does not know the difference between her arse and her elbow.

All I know is Burnley are top of the Championship and in my little bubble nothing much else matters. I have a spare ticket for you for the Rovers game if you are interested? >:)

[sinkov]

I'm as confused as Ms Braverman is mon ami, she does not know the difference between her arse and her elbow.

All I know is Burnley are top of the Championship and in my little bubble nothing much else matters. I have a spare ticket for you for the Rovers game if you are interested? >:)

Thank you for the offer mon ami, it's very kind of you. I'm not going, I was talking to a Blackburn fan in Clitheroe this morning, she was looking forward to going, although a bit apprehensive about Yorkshire St, as well she might be. I explained that, in the unlikely event that Blackburn win, I do not want to witness her and her mates celebrating on Turf Moor, I just don't want to see it ever again, nor put up with the miserable drive back home. If I'm at home I can simply switch the TV off, kick the cat {literally that is, we don't have a cat) and go and sulk for half an hour.
I know it's unlikely we'll lose, but we could and I''m not taking the chance, thanks again for the offer though.

[sinkov]

Even the Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama accused Britain of becoming like a "madhouse" with a culture of "finding scapegoats" during a migration crisis where "failed policies" are to blame. Mr Rama hit out at Suella Braverman's "crazy" choice of language in a combative Commons debate this week, where she claimed there was an "invasion on our southern coast".

If immigrants are indeed welcome mon ami, why does she just not say so.

I take the above then, as an admission that she never said it ? Correct ?

What is it with you Lefties, why do you ALWAYS make stuff up ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I take the above then, as an admission that she never said it ? Correct ?

What is it with you Lefties, why do you ALWAYS make stuff up ?

Give me a month and I will find it, right now I have more pressing issues to deal with, like my best ever mate is dying.

[sinkov]

Give me a month and I will find it, right now I have more pressing issues to deal with, like my best ever mate is dying.

I find it's just as easy and quick to post the truth as it is a lie.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I find it's just as easy and quick to post the truth as it is a lie.

She talks that much $hit I can't keep up with the quotes and PLEASE get off your sanctimonious high horse, you are not backing a winner here mon ami.

The funeral is on Thursday by the way.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I take the above then, as an admission that she never said it ? Correct ?

What is it with you Lefties, why do you ALWAYS make stuff up ?

Reported in the Independent (I think!) "Home Secretary, Suella Braverman, said it would be her "dream" and "obsession" to see a flight take asylum seekers to Rwanda." I hope they didn't make this up.

The Home Office has just spunked £120 million on so-called flights to Rwanda, net result = 0 have left. Shameful waste of taxpayers' money.

Next post up, I have a crackerjack for you sinkov. B)

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I take the above then, as an admission that she never said it ? Correct ?

What is it with you Lefties, why do you ALWAYS make stuff up ?

From a Google search. I knew I'd read it somewhere...XD

https://boards.footymad.net/showthread.php?t=38297443&page=3
11/01/2022 · Children of immigrants saying immigrants are not welcome. FFS! The Toxic Party are breathtaking cowards, just tell Macron to behave himself otherwise dinghies leaving French shores will be sunk and the blood will be on his hands. 01-11-2022, 09:59 PM #22 army88 Hall Of Fame Join Date Aug 2009 Posts 3,620 Spoken like a true politician BT that.


Not much misses the thought police eh mon ami. :o

[The Bedlington Terrier]

At last someone with balls to speak up and actually say / recognise what is happening to our country - the woke MPs didn’t like that speech - shame she’s of colour or she’d have been a racist bigot today.
Posted before that we left Europe in the main because of illegal immigration, the average man was sick and tired of struggling to support his family and watching our elderly and ex servicemen left like dirt on the streets while the illegals live like kings and queens ( don’t forget many are complaining it’s not good enough)

Rishi says tax hikes are coming ( we all expected that I think after - grants and loans in lockdown ) someone has to pay for it - I read latest figures from home office though are 6.8 million a day to keep illegal immigrants 2.48 billion a year - this would be a great starting point for me and this government might just score a few points and win a few more votes if they actually deliver on what imo anyway was the reason we left the EU.

This link answers your hate much better than I ever could army88...

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/its-moments-like-this-that-you-realise-how-far-weve-fallen/

[sinkov]

From a Google search. I knew I'd read it somewhere...XD

https://boards.footymad.net/showthread.php?t=38297443&page=3
11/01/2022 · Children of immigrants saying immigrants are not welcome. FFS! The Toxic Party are breathtaking cowards, just tell Macron to behave himself otherwise dinghies leaving French shores will be sunk and the blood will be on his hands. 01-11-2022, 09:59 PM #22 army88 Hall Of Fame Join Date Aug 2009 Posts 3,620 Spoken like a true politician BT that.


Not much misses the thought police eh mon ami. :o

I ask again, where did she say it ? You can't find the quote anywhere because she never said it did she ? In typical Lefty fashion you're just making it up.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I ask again, where did she say it ? You can't find the quote anywhere because she never said it did she ? In typical Lefty fashion you're just making it up.

She is a disgrace of a human being mon ami. What's the point of flying to Dover and back to Manston in an Army helicopter wearing a flak jacket? Are we at war with these desperate souls.

Ok I can't find my uncertifiable quote but "Home Secretary, Suella Braverman, said it would be her "dream" and "obsession" to see a flight take asylum seekers to Rwanda" will do in the meantime.

No point in you obsessing over yet another of your Toxic Party Wet Dream Party Girls she will be history by Friday.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

What will/can a Labour Home Sec do to resolve the problem, that numerous Tory Home Secs haven't tried ?

Perhaps the Home Secretary of our once great nation could stop using inflammatory rhetoric of which the consequences are obvious.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/06/suella-braverman-was-warned-hate-speech-could-inspire-far-right?utm_term=636769843b6b20e24a612342ca16e179&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email

[Supersub6]

She is a disgrace of a human being mon ami. What's the point of flying to Dover and back to Manston in an Army helicopter wearing a flak jacket? Are we at war with these desperate souls.

Ok I can't find my uncertifiable quote but "Home Secretary, Suella Braverman, said it would be her "dream" and "obsession" to see a flight take asylum seekers to Rwanda" will do in the meantime.

No point in you obsessing over yet another of your Toxic Party Wet Dream Party Girls she will be history by Friday.

Just one question BT. When did the British Army acquire any Chinook helicopters and who paid for them? I'm surprised that this sort of spending on defence has passed the left wingers by without comment.
Oh, wait a minute, the British Army do not have any Chinook helicopters, perhaps they hired this off the US Army in order to fly Suella to Manston.
You are reading the Grauniad too much mein freund, they specialise in getting things wrong and it is obviously catching.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

This is exactly what happens when Braverman incites right wing extremists...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/5/attack-on-uk-immigration-centre-terrorist-incident-police

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Just one question BT. When did the British Army acquire any Chinook helicopters and who paid for them? I'm surprised that this sort of spending on defence has passed the left wingers by without comment.
Oh, wait a minute, the British Army do not have any Chinook helicopters, perhaps they hired this off the US Army in order to fly Suella to Manston.
You are reading the Grauniad too much mein freund, they specialise in getting things wrong and it is obviously catching.

I'm not a helicopter watcher mein freund so I've really no idea what she flew in, it looked like the back of a Chinook to me, but please explain WTF did the silly bitch need to fly 19 miles from Dover to Manston in a helicopter wearing a flak jacket. :confused:

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Just one question BT. When did the British Army acquire any Chinook helicopters and who paid for them? I'm surprised that this sort of spending on defence has passed the left wingers by without comment.
Oh, wait a minute, the British Army do not have any Chinook helicopters, perhaps they hired this off the US Army in order to fly Suella to Manston.
You are reading the Grauniad too much mein freund, they specialise in getting things wrong and it is obviously catching.

I love it when the pedantic brigade gets their knickers in a twist. Apologies for insulting the RAF but what exactly did she fly 19 miles in?

https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircraft/chinook/

[Supersub6]

I'm not a helicopter watcher mein freund so I've really no idea what she flew in, it looked like the back of a Chinook to me, but please explain WTF did the silly bitch need to fly 19 miles from Dover to Manston in a helicopter wearing a flak jacket. :confused:

It was definitely a Chinook and she flew over the Channel in it with Dan O'Mahoney, the Clandestine Channel Threat Commander, in order to see the operations at sea. Did you want her to hang-glide?
Pedantic? No! Musicians mentality yes ---one chance to get it right, however, sadly, the media very rarely get it right first time ---they even class air specialists as soldiers.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

At last someone with balls to speak up and actually say / recognise what is happening to our country - the woke MPs didn’t like that speech - shame she’s of colour or she’d have been a racist bigot today.
Posted before that we left Europe in the main because of illegal immigration, the average man was sick and tired of struggling to support his family and watching our elderly and ex servicemen left like dirt on the streets while the illegals live like kings and queens ( don’t forget many are complaining it’s not good enough)

Rishi says tax hikes are coming ( we all expected that I think after - grants and loans in lockdown ) someone has to pay for it - I read latest figures from home office though are 6.8 million a day to keep illegal immigrants 2.48 billion a year - this would be a great starting point for me and this government might just score a few points and win a few more votes if they actually deliver on what imo anyway was the reason we left the EU.

Your little hero needs to wind her neck in army88 and stop inciting right-wing nutjobs...

https://www.asiaone.com/world/man-throws-petrol-bombs-migrant-processing-centre-uk-kills-himself

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Just one question BT. When did the British Army acquire any Chinook helicopters and who paid for them? I'm surprised that this sort of spending on defence has passed the left wingers by without comment.
Oh, wait a minute, the British Army do not have any Chinook helicopters, perhaps they hired this off the US Army in order to fly Suella to Manston.
You are reading the Grauniad too much mein freund, they specialise in getting things wrong and it is obviously catching.

It was the Independent mein freund NOT your hated Guardian...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/suella-braverman-dover-manston-immigration-chinook-b2217000.html?src=rss

[Supersub6]

She is a disgrace of a human being mon ami. What's the point of flying to Dover and back to Manston in an Army helicopter wearing a flak jacket? Are we at war with these desperate souls.

Ok I can't find my uncertifiable quote but "Home Secretary, Suella Braverman, said it would be her "dream" and "obsession" to see a flight take asylum seekers to Rwanda" will do in the meantime.

No point in you obsessing over yet another of your Toxic Party Wet Dream Party Girls she will be history by Friday.


It was the Independent mein freund NOT your hated Guardian...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/suella-braverman-dover-manston-immigration-chinook-b2217000.html?src=rss

BT, it appears that it was you that said it was an Army helicopter which was what my question related to.
I don't read the Grauniad or the Independent ---they all get too much wrong and have agendas.

[army88]

This link answers your hate much better than I ever could army88...

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/its-moments-like-this-that-you-realise-how-far-weve-fallen/

There is no hate BT , I’d help anyone that genuinely needed it , but the majority coming here are on the gravy train , it’s the place to be otherwise they wouldn’t come through other countries to reach us when they could seek asylum there.

It’s little bit deluded this BT as your going mad about the people who are partway destroying our country , not even you are blind to that - recession , crime , theft , stabbing , murder , drugs not to mention the strain on the NHS that can’t cope.

All
Are factors that affect you me and the British people - how will we balance the books , where will the money come from to pay the 2.4 billion a year ( and rising ) to look after illegal immigration? If you include the stabbing nhs etc that figure would be x5 easily.

So whilst the NHS is busting at the seams and you can’t see a doctor, your kids are sold drugs , stabbings on the up , your children are pimped and generally crime is on the up in our great country, I’m curious where the funds will come from to right all this - your welcoming more and more of them with open arms , have a long hard look at your grandchildren and ask your self how British will Britain be in future years ?

I have posted so many times we can’t survive and thrive without immigration , but I look at controlled immigration and what we have now and it’s madness - the country cannot sustain this situation, the fear is how do we say no when basically you have let anyone come to the land of milk and honey up to now.

We’re doomed - and if Labour get in the situation will worsen , the floodgates will
Open.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It was definitely a Chinook and she flew over the Channel in it with Dan O'Mahoney, the Clandestine Channel Threat Commander, in order to see the operations at sea. Did you want her to hang-glide?
Pedantic? No! Musicians mentality yes ---one chance to get it right, however, sadly, the media very rarely get it right first time ---they even class air specialists as soldiers.

I want her to leave it with those who have a semblance of a brain mein freund. Not too much to ask, is it?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There is no hate BT , I’d help anyone that genuinely needed it , but the majority coming here are on the gravy train , it’s the place to be otherwise they wouldn’t come through other countries to reach us when they could seek asylum there.

It’s little bit deluded this BT as your going mad about the people who are partway destroying our country , not even you are blind to that - recession , crime , theft , stabbing , murder , drugs not to mention the strain on the NHS that can’t cope.

All
Are factors that affect you me and the British people - how will we balance the books , where will the money come from to pay the 2.4 billion a year ( and rising ) to look after illegal immigration? If you include the stabbing nhs etc that figure would be x5 easily.

So whilst the NHS is busting at the seams and you can’t see a doctor, your kids are sold drugs , stabbings on the up , your children are pimped and generally crime is on the up in our great country, I’m curious where the funds will come from to right all this - your welcoming more and more of them with open arms , have a long hard look at your grandchildren and ask your self how British will Britain be in future years ?

I have posted so many times we can’t survive and thrive without immigration , but I look at controlled immigration and what we have now and it’s madness - the country cannot sustain this situation, the fear is how do we say no when basically you have let anyone come to the land of milk and honey up to now.

We’re doomed - and if Labour get in the situation will worsen , the floodgates will
Open.

Great to read a well measured response army88. So, if I get this right about 30,000 undocumented immigrants are totally responsible for "recession , crime , theft , stabbing , murder , drugs not to mention the strain on the NHS that can’t cope." Bloody hell, it's worse than I thought! XD

[sinkov]

Keep going mon ami, keep wibbling on about Braverman, Tories, Labour, Hard Right etc. etc, someday soon you might realise it's all pointless, irrelevant, a sideshow, none of it matters, you're being gaslighted, diverted away from noticing what's really going. But never mind, you just keep playing their game. O:)

[army88]

Great to read a well measured response army88. So, if I get this right about 30,000 undocumented immigrants are totally responsible for "recession , crime , theft , stabbing , murder , drugs not to mention the strain on the NHS that can’t cope." Bloody hell, it's worse than I thought! XD

Now now BT didn’t say that did I ? What I intimated was that they are a factor and a strain on our already weakened resources, do you know Bt if every one of them was women and children from Ukraine I wouldn’t have even posted except to say good 👍 on us in this country for our humanitarian contribution with genuine refugees, but as they’re not those people and a real mixture ( some maybe genuine I accept that ) but my eyes tell me they’re on the make and we are letting it happen at the expense of our own people - Still votes are votes eh ? As the politicians would say.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Now now BT didn’t say that did I ? What I intimated was that they are a factor and a strain on our already weakened resources, do you know Bt if every one of them was women and children from Ukraine I wouldn’t have even posted except to say good �� on us in this country for our humanitarian contribution with genuine refugees, but as they’re not those people and a real mixture ( some maybe genuine I accept that ) but my eyes tell me they’re on the make and we are letting it happen at the expense of our own people - Still votes are votes eh ? As the politicians would say.

Even in the cruel, harsh world of the right-wing media it is pretty much accepted that quite a lot of Syrian, Yemeni & Afghan refugees really do need sanctuary from despotic regimes. Despite 12 years of Toxic Party rule, we are still the sixth richest country in the world FFS and the Toxic Party are even funding the "Refugee Crisis" from their Global Aid Budget. Why should a Ukrainian refugee take precedence in your right-wing toxic blinkered view army88?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Keep going mon ami, keep wibbling on about Braverman, Tories, Labour, Hard Right etc. etc, someday soon you might realise it's all pointless, irrelevant, a sideshow, none of it matters, you're being gaslighted, diverted away from noticing what's really going. But never mind, you just keep playing their game. O:)

I almost gave in when the Establishment installed Starmer to head up the Labour Party mon ami. I'm happy to say I have got my mojo back but need an outlet to display and fight for my left-wing energy and enthusiasm. Come on Jeremy, "Let's be having you!"

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[sinkov]

I almost gave in when the Establishment installed Starmer to head up the Labour Party mon ami. I'm happy to say I have got my mojo back but need an outlet to display and fight for my left-wing energy and enthusiasm. Come on Jeremy, "Let's be having you!"

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Labour Party members voted Corbyn in as leader, where is he now ?

The Great British Public voted Johnson in as PM, where is he now ?

Tory Party members voted Truss in as leader and thus she became PM, where is she now ? And for good measure where is her Chancellor of the Exchequer now ? The two most powerful people in British politics, gone almost overnight, as if in a puff of smoke, and still you think party politics matters, elected politicians are running the show ?

Truss said the government would allow Fracking, I told you on here it would never be allowed to happen, Sunak has confirmed it won't be happening.

We were watching the news not long ago and it was announced that Sunak would not be going to Cop 27, Mrs S expressed surprise, 'Don't worry' I said, 'he'll go'. He's going.

Braverman has expressed a determination to stop illegal immigrants entering the country, she's still Home Sec for now, but for how much longer, won't be long before I can ask of her as well, where is she now ?

You can't discern the pattern though can you mon ami, one day perhaps, the scales will fall from your eyes, and you'll see the futility of your party political rantings, they're irrelevant, you're irrelevant, party politics is irrelevant, but by the time you wake up and see what a mug's game you're playing, I expect it will be too late.

[Supersub6]

Labour Party members voted Corbyn in as leader, where is he now ?

The Great British Public voted Johnson in as PM, where is he now ?

Tory Party members voted Truss in as leader and thus she became PM, where is she now ? And for good measure where is her Chancellor of the Exchequer now ? The two most powerful people in British politics, gone almost overnight, as if in a puff of smoke, and still you think party politics matters, elected politicians are running the show ?

Truss said the government would allow Fracking, I told you on here it would never be allowed to happen, Sunak has confirmed it won't be happening.

We were watching the news not long ago and it was announced that Sunak would not be going to Cop 27, Mrs S expressed surprise, 'Don't worry' I said, 'he'll go'. He's going.

Braverman has expressed a determination to stop illegal immigrants entering the country, she's still Home Sec for now, but for how much longer, won't be long before I can ask of her as well, where is she now ?

You can't discern the pattern though can you mon ami, one day perhaps, the scales will fall from your eyes, and you'll see the futility of your party political rantings, they're irrelevant, you're irrelevant, party politics is irrelevant, but by the time you wake up and see what a mug's game you're playing, I expect it will be too late.

As my dear old mother told me -----there is 97% of your life over which you have no control ----how right she was.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I intend keeping on being "irrelevant" otherwise we just give in and become sheep being led to the vaccine pen.

Sound familiar?

[army88]

Even in the cruel, harsh world of the right-wing media it is pretty much accepted that quite a lot of Syrian, Yemeni & Afghan refugees really do need sanctuary from despotic regimes. Despite 12 years of Toxic Party rule, we are still the sixth richest country in the world FFS and the Toxic Party are even funding the "Refugee Crisis" from their Global Aid Budget. Why should a Ukrainian refugee take precedence in your right-wing toxic blinkered view army88?

As I said before Bt you speak just like a politician manipulating and reading as you see fit , if you read the post it says I accept some maybe genuine from elsewhere, but how I have right wing views agreeing with Ukrainian women and children refugees against young MEN from Afghanistan , Syria , and particularly now Albania is beyond me.

You read too much rubbish BT , I accept you care about refugees, my point would be maybe we could care for some genuine ones if we weren’t propping up several other countries worth of fake on the make young men, who are here because they can be.

Human nature suggests that anyone with a shred of intelligence would make their way to the best deal possible and available to them , which like it or not BT ( we differ ) is our country , I think really if you asked anyone on here they wouldn’t be adverse to helping genuine people in need , we’d just like our own house in order first , imo we are just adding money to a pit with steep sides we can’t climb out of - the most genuine and giving country of any and your not happy - I asked before and I’ll ask again where will the 2.4billion a year come from ( and rising ) to look after your so called refugees.

It’s not right wing , it’s not racist or any other slur you wish to throw at me it’s just facts.

We won’t be 6th richest country for long the way we’re going.

[sinkov]

As I said before Bt you speak just like a politician manipulating and reading as you see fit , if you read the post it says I accept some maybe genuine from elsewhere, but how I have right wing views agreeing with Ukrainian women and children refugees against young MEN from Afghanistan , Syria , and particularly now Albania is beyond me.

You read too much rubbish BT , I accept you care about refugees, my point would be maybe we could care for some genuine ones if we weren’t propping up several other countries worth of fake on the make young men, who are here because they can be.

Human nature suggests that anyone with a shred of intelligence would make their way to the best deal possible and available to them , which like it or not BT ( we differ ) is our country , I think really if you asked anyone on here they wouldn’t be adverse to helping genuine people in need , we’d just like our own house in order first , imo we are just adding money to a pit with steep sides we can’t climb out of - the most genuine and giving country of any and your not happy - I asked before and I’ll ask again where will the 2.4billion a year come from ( and rising ) to look after your so called refugees.

It’s not right wing , it’s not racist or any other slur you wish to throw at me it’s just facts.

We won’t be 6th richest country for long the way we’re going.

Of course it's not right wing or racist Army, any sensible person can see that, but you're not dealing with a sensible person in BT. He's a fully paid up member of the Loony Left, completely impervious to reason and common sense. He's in a time warp, stuck in the dim and distant past, somewhere between the Student Union bar and the picket lines at Orgreave and is incapable of moving on. Any reasoned argument goes straight over his head, if he can't read it in the Grauniad or the Indy, it just doesn't compute for him and so you're wasting your time with him, completely and utterly, but best of luck anyway.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

We have a Home Secretary who is a huge security risk. We have a clown currently eating kangaroo's testicles who spunked a lot more than £2.4 billion supporting his cronies with dodgy PPE contracts.

I just can't seem to reason with right-wing zealots, but who can? They chuck firebombs at defenceless immigrants, storm the White House, kill a Labour MP and it's claimed the "Loony Left" are completely impervious to reason and common sense. Jesus Fecking Wept!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63456984

[army88]

We have a Home Secretary who is a huge security risk. We have a clown currently eating kangaroo's testicles who spunked a lot more than £2.4 billion supporting his cronies with dodgy PPE contracts.

I just can't seem to reason with right-wing zealots, but who can? They chuck firebombs at defenceless immigrants, storm the White House, kill a Labour MP and it's claimed the "Loony Left" are completely impervious to reason and common sense. Jesus Fecking Wept!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63456984

Will you ever let it go BT , yes he was cock and like we’ve said numerous times aren’t they all , the 2.4 billion is a year though and rising not just a ppe fiddle.

Was the murderer you refer to commited by an immigrant , I read it every day BT children raped and abused by immigrants who we are caring for, , robberies , beatings , stabbings and a whole lot of moaning that they’re not just getting what they deserve.

We’re in a mess in this country and I don’t mean conservatives Labour or any politics , it’s spiralling out of control and let’s be honest it’s not who’s in power as none of them dare get a grip
Of what’s happening , for fear of been ridiculed for not just being mainstream ( surely you of all
People can relate to that BT ).

How do you post an image on here ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Will you ever let it go BT , yes he was cock and like we’ve said numerous times aren’t they all , the 2.4 billion is a year though and rising not just a ppe fiddle.

Was the murderer you refer to commited by an immigrant , I read it every day BT children raped and abused by immigrants who we are caring for, , robberies , beatings , stabbings and a whole lot of moaning that they’re not just getting what they deserve.

We’re in a mess in this country and I don’t mean conservatives Labour or any politics , it’s spiralling out of control and let’s be honest it’s not who’s in power as none of them dare get a grip
Of what’s happening , for fear of been ridiculed for not just being mainstream ( surely you of all
People can relate to that BT ).

How do you post an image on here ?

The dude who murdered Jo Cox in cold blood was certainly not an immigrant army88. He was a radicalised member of the Toxic party from over your neck of the woods.

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

This is exactly why I call it the Toxic party army88...

On 16 June 2016, Jo Cox, a British Labour Party politician and Member of Parliament (MP) for Batley and Spen, died after being shot and stabbed multiple times in Birstall, West Yorkshire. In November 2016, 53-year-old Thomas Alexander Mair was found guilty of her murder and other offences connected to the killing in an act of terrorism.[1] The judge concluded that Mair wanted to advance white supremacism and exclusive nationalism most associated with Nazism and its modern forms. He was sentenced to life imprisonment with a whole life order.

Just the same sort of whack job who chucks petrol bombs at innocent immigrants.

[army88]

This is exactly why I call it the Toxic party army88...

On 16 June 2016, Jo Cox, a British Labour Party politician and Member of Parliament (MP) for Batley and Spen, died after being shot and stabbed multiple times in Birstall, West Yorkshire. In November 2016, 53-year-old Thomas Alexander Mair was found guilty of her murder and other offences connected to the killing in an act of terrorism.[1] The judge concluded that Mair wanted to advance white supremacism and exclusive nationalism most associated with Nazism and its modern forms. He was sentenced to life imprisonment with a whole life order.

Just the same sort of whack job who chucks petrol bombs at innocent immigrants.

What about David Amess Bt did you forget him because he was a Tory , Somalian killed him and he was active in supporting the vulnerable and immigrants.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

What about David Amess Bt did you forget him because he was a Tory , Somalian killed him and he was active in supporting the vulnerable and immigrants.

No, I did not forget Sir David Amess army88. Bile and hate towards immigrants have no place in a civilized society, as you sow, so shall you reap. The Somalian who murdered Sir David claimed he targeted the MP over his vote for airstrikes on Syria.

Before your time on here I constantly advocated not to bring avenging terrorists to the UK by bombing defenceless civilians in Syria. Did Cameron and his cronies listen - did they f*ck! I am equally sad to say neither did a lot of Labour MP's listen either. >:(

I must have posted this message on here and across social media more than 300 times...

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[sinkov]

and it's claimed the "Loony Left" are completely impervious to reason and common sense. Jesus Fecking Wept!



It's not a claim mon ami, it's a fact, a fact well established by your own good self's interminable, insane, political rantings on this msgboard.

[army88]

No, I did not forget Sir David Amess army88. Bile and hate towards immigrants have no place in a civilized society, as you sow, so shall you reap. The Somalian who murdered Sir David claimed he targeted the MP over his vote for airstrikes on Syria.

Before your time on here I constantly advocated not to bring avenging terrorists to the UK by bombing defenceless civilians in Syria. Did Cameron and his cronies listen - did they f*ck! I am equally sad to say neither did a lot of Labour MP's listen either. >:(

I must have posted this message on here and across social media more than 300 times...

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Surely that backs up everything I was saying BT no one deserves to be murdered for having a view or opinion on something.
people like him are not westernised and have no filter , at home that probably happens regularly whereas here it’s not acceptable.

So the real point is BT as I said before the illegal immigrants could be anyone really couldn’t they ? The system is flawed people should be vetted and come through correct channels to establish their situation and what they can bring the country, not what they can sponge of it.

You obviously believe that every one of the illegal young men that are landing on our shores is a genuine refugee and needs us to fund his start in life , with accommodation, money food etc etc.

Surely you can see why people are hacked off , ex servicemen on the streets who fought for our freedom while the drug dealing - people trafficking idiots are looked after like royalty.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Surely that backs up everything I was saying BT no one deserves to be murdered for having a view or opinion on something.
people like him are not westernised and have no filter , at home that probably happens regularly whereas here it’s not acceptable.

So the real point is BT as I said before the illegal immigrants could be anyone really couldn’t they ? The system is flawed people should be vetted and come through correct channels to establish their situation and what they can bring the country, not what they can sponge of it.

You obviously believe that every one of the illegal young men that are landing on our shores is a genuine refugee and needs us to fund his start in life , with accommodation, money food etc etc.

Surely you can see why people are hacked off , ex servicemen on the streets who fought for our freedom while the drug dealing - people trafficking idiots are looked after like royalty.

Where was Thomas Alexander Mair's "filter" army88?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It's not a claim mon ami, it's a fact, a fact well established by your own good self's interminable, insane, political rantings on this msgboard.

Are you advocating we should just stick to footy on here mon ami? Alternatively, our mutual mate Alfie just switches off and refuses to engage. Perhaps you should try it?

The problem is football and politics are inextricably linked. Qatar anyone?

[sinkov]

It's not a claim mon ami, it's a fact, a fact well established by your own good self's interminable, insane, political rantings on this msgboard.

I fail to see mon ami, how the above is suggesting in any way that we should just stick to footy on here. It's nothing to do with me what you or anyone else posts, I merely comment on your imterminable, insane, political rantings, I am not requesting you desist.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I fail to see mon ami, how the above is suggesting in any way that we should just stick to footy on here. It's nothing to do with me what you or anyone else posts, I merely comment on your imterminable, insane, political rantings, I am not requesting you desist.

We have an elected government who are not functioning sinkov.
We have a revolving door for Cabinet Ministers.
We have an increasing amount of unexplained "excess deaths" per month and no Health Secretary in the post long enough to address it.
We have rail strikes crippling the country and no Transport Secretary in the post long enough to address it.
We have a Prime Minister who had to be nudged yesterday to face the Opposition Leader in PMQ's.
The Toxic party are running this country into the ground, they are not governing the country, I cannot fail to have "interminable, insane, political rantings" on this message board or on any other social media outlet that allows a person to comment on this utterly deplorable government.
Time to go for this dud government.

[sinkov]

We have an elected government who are not functioning sinkov.
We have a revolving door for Cabinet Ministers.
We have an increasing amount of unexplained "excess deaths" per month and no Health Secretary in the post long enough to address it.
We have rail strikes crippling the country and no Transport Secretary in the post long enough to address it.
We have a Prime Minister who had to be nudged yesterday to face the Opposition Leader in PMQ's.
The Toxic party are running this country into the ground, they are not governing the country, I cannot fail to have "interminable, insane, political rantings" on this message board or on any other social media outlet that allows a person to comment on this utterly deplorable government.
Time to go for this dud government.

Well done mon ami, see, you can make your perfectly valid points in a calm, reasonable and adult fashion when you want.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Time to vote!
Once upon a time the great top Cabinet posts in the United Kingdom were typically held by responsible intelligent politicians who could at least be relied upon to have the intellectual capability to be able to actually read the contents of their own department’s Red Box.
The current Tory government’s “Revolving Door Policy” means only the most political of anoraks can actually name any current Cabinet Minister other than perhaps the Prime Minister and Chancellor of the Exchequer and even those top two positions could possibly change with the next fortnight.
Without the need for even the smallest attempt at research, these are the “Off the top of my head” problems and consequences the majority of the population of the United Kingdom currently face because of the abject failure of our present government to tackle just about anything:
• Cost of living crisis.
• Pension uncertainty for millions of State Pension recipients.
• Climate change and domestic protests.
• UK Border security. Illegal immigrants & the social & economic consequences.
• Benefit recipients – Universal Credit insecurity.
• Child poverty & lack of Free School Meals provision.
• NHS - 7 million people waiting for routine operations.
• NHS – Proposed nurses’ strike.
• NHS – Post-Covid excess deaths unexplained.
• NHS – Ambulance waiting times.
• Transport crisis & unresolved strike action by transport workers.
• The great North/South divide & unactioned “levelling up” promises.
• Back to austerity measures/tax hikes/interest rates crisis.
• Barristers strike – no justice for not tried remanded prisoners.
• Prison crisis, overcrowding and underfunded.
• Criminal Justice - Courts backlog - No justice for anyone.
• Northern Ireland & EU protocol problems unresolved.
• Balance of trade – costly imports and exports down.
• Unemployment through the ceiling, but millions of jobs available – go figure!
• Foreign Office – Ukraine/War in Europe. Qatar - Human Rights World Cup.
• Petrol prices.
• Energy bills crisis.
We cannot possibly go on like this. It’s time for Sunak to do the honourable thing, shut the lot down and call a General Election and let the UK’s electorate decide who should take this country forward into 2023.

22879

[army88]

Time to vote!
Once upon a time the great top Cabinet posts in the United Kingdom were typically held by responsible intelligent politicians who could at least be relied upon to have the intellectual capability to be able to actually read the contents of their own department’s Red Box.
The current Tory government’s “Revolving Door Policy” means only the most political of anoraks can actually name any current Cabinet Minister other than perhaps the Prime Minister and Chancellor of the Exchequer and even those top two positions could possibly change with the next fortnight.
Without the need for even the smallest attempt at research, these are the “Off the top of my head” problems and consequences the majority of the population of the United Kingdom currently face because of the abject failure of our present government to tackle just about anything:
• Cost of living crisis.
• Pension uncertainty for millions of State Pension recipients.
• Climate change and domestic protests.
• UK Border security. Illegal immigrants & the social & economic consequences.
• Benefit recipients – Universal Credit insecurity.
• Child poverty & lack of Free School Meals provision.
• NHS - 7 million people waiting for routine operations.
• NHS – Proposed nurses’ strike.
• NHS – Post-Covid excess deaths unexplained.
• NHS – Ambulance waiting times.
• Transport crisis & unresolved strike action by transport workers.
• The great North/South divide & unactioned “levelling up” promises.
• Back to austerity measures/tax hikes/interest rates crisis.
• Barristers strike – no justice for not tried remanded prisoners.
• Prison crisis, overcrowding and underfunded.
• Criminal Justice - Courts backlog - No justice for anyone.
• Northern Ireland & EU protocol problems unresolved.
• Balance of trade – costly imports and exports down.
• Unemployment through the ceiling, but millions of jobs available – go figure!
• Foreign Office – Ukraine/War in Europe. Qatar - Human Rights World Cup.
• Petrol prices.
• Energy bills crisis.
We cannot possibly go on like this. It’s time for Sunak to do the honourable thing, shut the lot down and call a General Election and let the UK’s electorate decide who should take this country forward into 2023.

22879

It’s a good post Bt , my only thought would be that the vast majority of your points have existed for years , the NHS , unemployment , N Ireland etc etc , some of your points are exasperated because of what the original post / posts were about ie , more people here in this country put additional stress on all services including the NHS , the trade is an issue that we the British public voted for Us you me Sinkov and the other lads , so how that’s a conservative toxic fault I don’t know , benefit fraud is massive but it’s been happening for years not just now under the current government- whilst I accept there are a generation of spongers home grown shall we say - this is also another issue linked to massive rises in illegal immigration.

The petrol I can’t defend because barrel prices crude are well down and still they charge more for it .

To be fair a lot of those issues we have had for as long as I can remember, some are more prominent on the back of brexit and the ever expanding population.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It’s a good post Bt , my only thought would be that the vast majority of your points have existed for years , the NHS , unemployment , N Ireland etc etc , some of your points are exasperated because of what the original post / posts were about ie , more people here in this country put additional stress on all services including the NHS , the trade is an issue that we the British public voted for Us you me Sinkov and the other lads , so how that’s a conservative toxic fault I don’t know , benefit fraud is massive but it’s been happening for years not just now under the current government- whilst I accept there are a generation of spongers home grown shall we say - this is also another issue linked to massive rises in illegal immigration.

The petrol I can’t defend because barrel prices crude are well down and still they charge more for it .

To be fair a lot of those issues we have had for as long as I can remember, some are more prominent on the back of brexit and the ever expanding population.

There is no point in me berating the Toxic party because them and their camp followers will never admit this disaster is their fault.

I'll bet you and Braverman are creaming your kecks over this tragedy...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-and-french-coastguards-passed-buck-as-27-people-drowned-in-channel/ar-AA141q7Y?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4919a6e8a2054a1281eaba5e8d82e5a5

[sinkov]

I'll bet you and Braverman are creaming your kecks over this tragedy...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-and-french-coastguards-passed-buck-as-27-people-drowned-in-channel/ar-AA141q7Y?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4919a6e8a2054a1281eaba5e8d82e5a5

Me, Army and Braverman would like this invasion stopped right now mon ami, if it was......no more tragedy. You and your Lefty chums want these illegal immigrants welcomed with open arms, the more the merrier, as they flee from persecution and oppression, all the way across Europe and Africa, through numerous perfectly safe countries to the shores of La Manche, where the gendarmes turn a Nelsonian blind eye and the vile people traffickers rub their hands, as Lefties in England beckon them across.

It's about a year since that last tragedy and still Lefties encourage ever more of them to tempt fate, using them as a stick to beat a Tory politician with. It's a miracle even more have not perished, how you feckers on the Left sleep of a night I have no idea.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Not one socialist I have ever met could possibly condone the political shenanigans that would allow children to drown in the English Channel sinkov.

I suppose in a nutshell it encapsulates the difference between a Christian Socialist Democrat and a Tory tw@t. :mad:

[army88]

Not one socialist I have ever met could possibly condone the political shenanigans that would allow children to drown in the English Channel sinkov.

I suppose in a nutshell it encapsulates the difference between a Christian Socialist Democrat and a Tory tw@t. :mad:

You always go further than is needed BT no one and I mean no one on here including Sinkov and myself want people drowning on the way here, we’re back to you calling me last week, I’m Christian myself Bt , but I know wrong when I see it and these people coming here are not the genuine refugees you proclaim they are, the Albanians today have taken the bridge in London for Remembrance Sunday because Braveman made comments re immigration, we’ll wake up and smell the coffee this is our country and when here you should respect our ways and wishes I think anyway. ( I wouldn’t dream of going elsewhere and demanding removal of people and forcing views in them ) I guess that’s what we’ve opened ourselves up to here.

I’ve really no idea where to turn BT as Sunak today is now trying to sign us up to European defence ( loss of sovereignty) and Angela the mouth is promising the unions full support and backing in my eyes that means the country will be back at a standstill as the more you give them ( she’s f kin mental).

The world is a mad place and if I’m honest neither of them are fit to run the country.

[army88]

Another point BT the migrants coming are more racist than anyone here , I mean there is some trouble coming if you keep inviting violent racist immigrants, remember BLM or so I’m told.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I have met loads of children in my lifetime army88 and never found one to be a racist, I've seen a lot of images of them floating face down in various oceans though. They were all dead by drowning.

[sinkov]

Not one socialist I have ever met could possibly condone the political shenanigans that would allow children to drown in the English Channel sinkov.

I suppose in a nutshell it encapsulates the difference between a Christian Socialist Democrat and a Tory tw@t. :mad:

They didn't drown because of political shenanigans, they drowned because of the illegal activities of people traffickers, vile scum to whom Lefties apportion no blame whatsoever, preferring to use drowned children as a political football. As I said before mon ami, how you Lefty feckers sleep of a night I have no idea.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I love your notion of a "Left Wing Bogeyman" sinkov. It's like one of Hans Christian Anderson's fairytales.

Children are dying in the English Channel, and you call them political footballs.

I always knew Tories are notoriously hard-hearted b@stards but this sort of comment is taking it to an all-new level. :blue:

[army88]

I love your notion of a "Left Wing Bogeyman" sinkov. It's like one of Hans Christian Anderson's fairytales.

Children are dying in the English Channel, and you call them political footballs.

I always knew Tories are notoriously hard-hearted b@stards but this sort of comment is taking it to an all-new level. :blue:

Too far again Bt and you know it , I
Just said me Sinkov and anyone on here doesn’t want anyone drowning, but the point of this whole scenario originally was the vast majority of so called refugees are male ****s to thirty’s ( not women and children ) and as Sinkov and I pointed out to you several times they pass through several other countries illegally to reach what I called the land of milk and honey , can’t think of a better analogy otherwise why risk life limb ( and your children of course to get here when you could seek sanctuary elsewhere without a further toll/ payment to the underworld ).

For an intelligent man BT you’ve missed the point and it was we are overrun with ILLEGALS that are costing us Billions, they do come here for one reason , problem we have now is we look after them all that well that human nature plays it’s part and more and more want to come who’d blame them for that ?

I still stand by statement we left the Eu because the average man wanted us to have control of borders and laws in our country as they can see what’s happening- since the day we left the situation has worsened, that is the truth you can call all the names you like and point fingers all you like say I’m far right etc etc - I’m none of those things just saying as I see that’s all.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

We have a former Toxic party Home Secretary and Prime Minister who claimed she wanted to create a "hostile environment" for illegal immigrants. It does not get any more hostile than not answering SOS calls from people sinking mid-English Channel in an inflatable dinghy.

They would definitely be better aboard one of Braverman's non-flying planes to Rwanda than being left to die mid-English Channel in a sinking inflatable dinghy that is for sure. :s

The Home Office has absolutely no idea how many illegal immigrants or undocumented people are actually in the UK. Sort of negates the fairy tale they are all here to milk us honest taxpayers like Jeff Bezos and other corporate non-taxpayers dry. No documents = no benefits.

We were on a pleasure boat in Brixham a month ago and the skipper of the boat put on a sonic radar to find a shoal of dolphins we could all gawp at. He found sixty dolphins within about five minutes.

The French are totally complicit in allowing these vulnerable souls to enter the English Channel. It's time the Toxic party started giving Macron what for IMHO. :mad:

Instead, Sunak has started a bromance with Macron.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Too far again Bt and you know it , I
Just said me Sinkov and anyone on here doesn’t want anyone drowning, but the point of this whole scenario originally was the vast majority of so called refugees are male ****s to thirty’s ( not women and children ) and as Sinkov and I pointed out to you several times they pass through several other countries illegally to reach what I called the land of milk and honey , can’t think of a better analogy otherwise why risk life limb ( and your children of course to get here when you could seek sanctuary elsewhere without a further toll/ payment to the underworld ).

For an intelligent man BT you’ve missed the point and it was we are overrun with ILLEGALS that are costing us Billions, they do come here for one reason , problem we have now is we look after them all that well that human nature plays it’s part and more and more want to come who’d blame them for that ?

I still stand by statement we left the Eu because the average man wanted us to have control of borders and laws in our country as they can see what’s happening- since the day we left the situation has worsened, that is the truth you can call all the names you like and point fingers all you like say I’m far right etc etc - I’m none of those things just saying as I see that’s all.

Cruella will no doubt start soon to paraphrase dear old Winnie: We shall drown them on the seas and oceans, we shall sight them with growing confidence and watch them with our growing drone strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall stop them on the beaches, we shall disrobe them on the landing grounds, we shall send them to the fields and keep them off our streets, we shall despatch them to our rural highest hills; we shall never surrender to this illegal immigrant invasion.

[sinkov]

I love your notion of a "Left Wing Bogeyman" sinkov. It's like one of Hans Christian Anderson's fairytales.

Children are dying in the English Channel, and you call them political footballs.

I always knew Tories are notoriously hard-hearted b@stards but this sort of comment is taking it to an all-new level. :blue:

Not me mon ami, not Army, you're the one who brought up the Channel tragedy, you're the one posting photos of dead MPs. It's an unhealthy Lefty trend, do you read the Gravediggers Gazette these days instead of the Grauniad ? Bring out your dead indeed.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Not me mon ami, not Army, you're the one who brought up the Channel tragedy, you're the one posting photos of dead MPs. It's an unhealthy Lefty trend, do you read the Gravediggers Gazette these days instead of the Grauniad ? Bring out your dead indeed.

Whatever.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Not me mon ami, not Army, you're the one who brought up the Channel tragedy, you're the one posting photos of dead MPs. It's an unhealthy Lefty trend, do you read the Gravediggers Gazette these days instead of the Grauniad ? Bring out your dead indeed.

The voice of reason...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/suella-braverman-s-rwanda-deportation-rhetoric-is-horrific-one-of-the-uk-s-most-senior-police-officers-says/ar-AA14HnB4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8fe20cae5e224a38d5571719b7402d30

[sinkov]

The voice of reason...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/suella-braverman-s-rwanda-deportation-rhetoric-is-horrific-one-of-the-uk-s-most-senior-police-officers-says/ar-AA14HnB4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8fe20cae5e224a38d5571719b7402d30

The voice of reason, Neil Basu, this is Mr Voice of Reason Basu earlier this year.

"Guilty as charged’: top UK officer urges police chiefs to admit institutional racism"

"Met’s Neil Basu says ‘positive discrimination’ should be used to increase minority ethnic representation in ranks"

"One of Britain’s most senior officers has called on chiefs to admit that institutional racism blights policing, declaring “we are guilty as charged”, and blaming failures on the leadership of law enforcement."

"the inability to galvanise all chief constables to accept that we remain institutionally racist and to apologise for that and our post-Windrush history."

Sounds more like a Lefty activist than a police officer, but maybe that's just me. ;D

[Supersub6]

The voice of reason...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/suella-braverman-s-rwanda-deportation-rhetoric-is-horrific-one-of-the-uk-s-most-senior-police-officers-says/ar-AA14HnB4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8fe20cae5e224a38d5571719b7402d30

Are you sure BT? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/telegraph-journalist-savages-met-frontrunner/

You can also add to the above that only a few months ago he was demanding answers as to why he had been rejected to become head of the National Crime Agency ---a decision made by the Home Office. How strange that he now is the voice of reason in an attack on the Home Secretary. Whose agenda is he following ---I wonder?

[sinkov]

Are you sure BT? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/telegraph-journalist-savages-met-frontrunner/

You can also add to the above that only a few months ago he was demanding answers as to why he had been rejected to become head of the National Crime Agency ---a decision made by the Home Office. How strange that he now is the voice of reason in an attack on the Home Secretary. Whose agenda is he following ---I wonder?

Sounds like a right piece of work this Basu chappy Sub, I get the impression he's a self-serving c-u-n-t. Like most Lefties.

[Supersub6]

Sounds like a right piece of work this Basu chappy Sub, I get the impression he's a self-serving c-u-n-t. Like most Lefties.

sinkov -----no, no, no ------he is the voice of reason -----see post 99!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You two can keep on spouting all of the bollox you like but these are the words of a British Home Secretary which quite frankly I find abhorrent, inhumane and thoroughly indecent; “I would love to be having a front page of the Telegraph with a plane taking off to Rwanda, that’s my dream, that’s my obsession”.

You two keep on creaming your kecks over Cruella, the Toxic party's days are numbered. :mad:

[Supersub6]

You two can keep on spouting all of the bollox you like but these are the words of a British Home Secretary which quite frankly I find abhorrent, inhumane and thoroughly indecent; “I would love to be having a front page of the Telegraph with a plane taking off to Rwanda, that’s my dream, that’s my obsession”.

You two keep on creaming your kecks over Cruella, the Toxic party's days are numbered. :mad:

Another misaprehension, BT, if you think that I would even dream of soiling my kecks over any politician.
I find it very strange that anyone can get really worked up about anything that any politician does. They will never get worked up about what you might think so don't waste energy.

What I want to know is whether or not the police will charge the 'Oil mob' for their latest shenanigans. The police say that they can't touch them because they are ambling slowly in front of traffic and are doing nothing wrong, however, by their actions they are aiding and abetting the act of creating air pollution in an area which has very strict regulations. Without their presence the traffic would flow with minimum problems, therefore, they are solely to blame. Just how green is their valley? >;)

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Me and my red mist would run the feckers over mein freund. :mad:

[Supersub6]

Me and my red mist would run the feckers over mein freund. :mad:

I do not share your feelings of hatred, however, I would gladly join you in this venture >:)

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Are you sure BT? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/telegraph-journalist-savages-met-frontrunner/

You can also add to the above that only a few months ago he was demanding answers as to why he had been rejected to become head of the National Crime Agency ---a decision made by the Home Office. How strange that he now is the voice of reason in an attack on the Home Secretary. Whose agenda is he following ---I wonder?

He called out Blow job for being the eejit he is so Johnson being Johnson put the block on Basu's promotion hopes. We all know what Old Etonians think of brown skinned upstarts don't we? :blue: