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stokearab
18-11-2022, 12:41 PM
Think this might split opinions ...

stokearab
18-11-2022, 12:43 PM
From the Official

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/news/7577/MULGREW-APPOINTED-PLAYERCOACH.html

weegiearab
18-11-2022, 01:17 PM
Bit late getting this news out but I reckon it could be good for the team. Charlie is well liked by the players and if that means that he can officially act as the conduit between the playing staff and management...then I am all for it! My only concern is how can this not be a conflict with Edwards being on the pitch alongside Charlie?

myhometeam
18-11-2022, 01:19 PM
Think this might split opinions ...

Well here gos then. Tin hat on, but to me it proves that being a slimey, back stabbing, disloyal, tosser now pays off. Give me Butcher over this prick all day long.

shedka
18-11-2022, 01:44 PM
Don't really see this as a problem, won't change much, think this was always likely for Mulgrew

Fox is the head coach, Crawford his assistant and Mulgrew a player/coach

Chick A Saw
18-11-2022, 02:23 PM
Well here gos then. Tin hat on, but to me it proves that being a slimey, back stabbing, disloyal, tosser now pays off. Give me Butcher over this prick all day long.

To be fair, all that you describe seems to be the way to get places in many a line of work.

When Charlie joined, it was well known that he was here with an eye to becoming a first team coach, and i for one took it as a bit of an endorsement of our academy that a player of his standing was joining us to make the crossover to coach.

However, under TC, everything in the garden was rosy as Charlie was said to be involved in the day to day running of the team. Enter JR and things go the way of the pear with Charlie apparently sidelined, and from this i have a few concerns about the rumours and media reports that circulated.

While i have concerns about his involvement this year, at the end of the day, coaches, head coaches and managers live or die by the sword, and if he manages to make a telling improvement to the team, our position and continues that by becoming successful himself, he will get my support and thanks.

It does though seem from your comment myhometeam that there is more to this sorry saga than i am aware of!

Arabs4ever
18-11-2022, 02:29 PM
Would have liked an experienced coach that could make the defence an efficient unit. Given who has a large say in things that was never going to materialise. Let us hope that one mans ego doesn't send us down.

Arabdownsouth
18-11-2022, 04:44 PM
Well here gos then. Tin hat on, but to me it proves that being a slimey, back stabbing, disloyal, tosser now pays off. Give me Butcher over this prick all day long.

Don't sit on the fence mate, say what you really think XD

stokearab
18-11-2022, 04:57 PM
Don't sit on the fence mate, say what you really think XD

To be fair it's what quite a few fans are saying on FB and elsewhere. But there's plenty fans happy with it as well.

What we'll never know - what some are asking is if Charlie hadn't led a player revolt against Ross would we have shipped 7 to Alkmaar, 9 to Celtic and now be bottom of the league?

As I say we'll never know. Not saying I agree with that last bit but it nags away.

The biggest mystery is why did we give Fox a 2 year contract when we should have appointed him on a temporary basis based on RESULTS until a review at the WC (toilet) break.

stokearab
18-11-2022, 05:14 PM
Bit late getting this news out but I reckon it could be good for the team. Charlie is well liked by the players and if that means that he can officially act as the conduit between the playing staff and management...then I am all for it! My only concern is how can this not be a conflict with Edwards being on the pitch alongside Charlie?

You raise a good point. Since Edwards was handed the armband he hasn't looked quite the same player. That might be partly down to playing CB virtually on his own though!
He's put in some good performances lately and never shirks a header. Would be interesting to hear from those who go to the matches whether he's a real leader on the pitch because you can't tell from TV footage.

When Mulgrew is back in the side it might take pressure off Edwards too. Just don't let him be the one slowing our play down from the back.

tHeArAb
18-11-2022, 05:33 PM
You raise a good point. Since Edwards was handed the armband he hasn't looked quite the same player. That might be partly down to playing CB virtually on his own though!
He's put in some good performances lately and never shirks a header. Would be interesting to hear from those who go to the matches whether he's a real leader on the pitch because you can't tell from TV footage.

When Mulgrew is back in the side it might take pressure off Edwards too. Just don't let him be the one slowing our play down from the back.

It would be hard to tell if we have a captain on the pitch or not atm. Edwards has never been vocal on the pitch. The most vocal captain we've had in recent years was Siegrist during his short spell as stand in captain.

Yeats 62
18-11-2022, 05:55 PM
I think I mentioned at the time that I didn't think Edwards was captain material. As a centre half , especially winning headers, he is great. The trio of Mulgrew, Edwards and Graham, led by Mulgrew was the best fit for me, hopefully to be back in place after the break.

Not sure about the back stabbing thing, sometimes it requires folk on the inside to "highlight" (ahem) just how bad things really are, or there will never be any change.

For whatever reason, the team did down tools, then, things were beginning to look up for a wee while after the change.

Foxy's deal, hmmmm... no quite sure about that. Would have left him in place, brought in Charlie as coach, as nearly everyone knew was gonna happen, and "monitored" the situation ;)

#THATSUNITEDFORYI :)

tHeArAb
18-11-2022, 07:42 PM
Well here gos then. Tin hat on, but to me it proves that being a slimey, back stabbing, disloyal, tosser now pays off. Give me Butcher over this prick all day long.
I assume you know Charlie personally and/or work at/know someone at Tannadice to be able to think this of him?

moicher
18-11-2022, 09:35 PM
You raise a good point. Since Edwards was handed the armband he hasn't looked quite the same player. That might be partly down to playing CB virtually on his own though!
He's put in some good performances lately and never shirks a header. Would be interesting to hear from those who go to the matches whether he's a real leader on the pitch because you can't tell from TV footage.

When Mulgrew is back in the side it might take pressure off Edwards too. Just don't let him be the one slowing our play down from the back.

not a vocal captain at all. I'd love to see him in peoples faces but he's not like that. I didnt want him as captain but i like him as a player. When the chips are down it's good to have a captain that can rally people but I dont think Ryan is able to do that. Having said that I'm not sure who in the squad I'd replace him with. Like a tory leadership contest, there's no good candidates.

stokearab
18-11-2022, 10:16 PM
not a vocal captain at all. I'd love to see him in peoples faces but he's not like that. I didnt want him as captain but i like him as a player. When the chips are down it's good to have a captain that can rally people but I dont think Ryan is able to do that. Having said that I'm not sure who in the squad I'd replace him with. Like a tory leadership contest, there's no good candidates.

Kinda what I thought the answer would be.
And as you say who else have we got. Can only assume he was given the armband before Mulgrew signed? Wonder if it'll change hands now. We need leaders and fighters.

TerryTheTerror
19-11-2022, 09:01 AM
I assume you know Charlie personally and/or work at/know someone at Tannadice to be able to think this of him?

If your believe the pish you read online about him then you may form this opinion. But, that's social media for you though, folk will believe anything.

Arabknight
19-11-2022, 10:06 AM
I’m happy with this appointment. If he has the changing room and players listen to him all the better. Got plenty of experience to add to the coaching staff too and we now know who the next manager will be if fox doesn’t cut it.

Arabknight
29-11-2022, 05:13 PM
Foxy in the local rag saying mulgrews involvement on coaching side of things will depend on whether he is playing or not.

He also says he was happy with the way we were performing before the World Cup break 🤔. Im going to have to avoid those frothy pots of gold before the games because I was sure we were pish!

FTFun
29-11-2022, 07:58 PM
Who do the players listen to?

him or fox?