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Old_pie
14-09-2023, 09:24 AM
The recent fixture v Wolves brought back memories of my first game in 1956. Thanks to this board someone posted that it was a testimonial for Leon Leuty who died of leukemia whilst being captain of Notts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Leuty

I have lost the details of the date the match was played. I seem to recall that it was a 1-1 draw. My Dad treated me to a seat in the Main (?) now Pavis stand about 1/3rd way up and about level with the penalty area which is around where I recently sat with family for the games against York and Boreham Wood.

Can anyone fill in more details please, teams, and any links as I can't find any?

60YearsAPie
14-09-2023, 09:29 AM
3rd May 1956 Notts 4 Wolves 2

Old_pie
14-09-2023, 09:53 AM
Ok, I've found this link to the programme:

https://willjam100.wixsite.com/wolvesindetail/55-6-programmes

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But I'm bemused by the scoreline. I know I was young but I'm fairly sure that when I got home 1-1 is what I told my Mum and naively said it was fair as both teams would be happy.

upthemaggies
14-09-2023, 10:01 AM
Attendance was 11.617

Billy Wright didn't play.

Notts: Bradley Cruickshanks Groome Loxley Russell Chatham Roby Wylie McCormack Jackson Wills
Wolverhampton Wanderers: Williams Shorthouse Harris Slater Howells Hooper Broadbent Murray Booth Mullen

Edit: There's a Wolves player missing from their line-up, but I'm going by the OCR


........ Ron Wylie The Notts leader had only to tap the ball through. After 52 minutes Broadbent scored from Booth’s pass Two minutes later Chatham equalised after a mistake by Williams from Roby’s flag-kick Notts assumed complete control when Wills converted a Roby centre County moved smartly in this half and kept Wolves under heavy pressure. Bradley saved brilliantly from Slater’s spot kick McCormack scored County’s fourth goal after 8?’ minutes from a Roby centre

ShannockPie
14-09-2023, 10:02 AM
This might be of interest

https://www.lufctalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6591

players had average wages & lifestyles in those days

Old_pie
14-09-2023, 10:18 AM
This might be of interest

https://www.lufctalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6591

players had average wages & lifestyles in those days

Thanks for that. I've fairly often been in the churchyard at Attenborough but was unaware of this.

There is a mass grave for the the biggest loss of life from a single accidental explosion during the First World War at Chilwell Shell filling factory:

https://heritagecalling.com/2018/06/29/the-chilwell-catastrophe-fatal-explosion-on-the-home-front/

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60YearsAPie
14-09-2023, 10:21 AM
There's a Wolves player missing from their line-up, but I'm going by the OCR

The missing Wolves player was centre-half Showell, who took Billy Wright's place. Wright was with the England team, preparing for England's game against Brazil at Wembley the following week.

Notts scorers:- Jackson, Chatham, Wills, McCormack. (McCormack missed a penalty right at the end)

The game was originally scheduled to be played on February 6th under floodlights but was called off due to flooding following a thaw.

upthemaggies
14-09-2023, 10:23 AM
But I'm bemused by the scoreline. I know I was young but I'm fairly sure that when I got home 1-1 is what I told my Mum and naively said it was fair as both teams would be happy.

You must be conflating memories of two separate games.
On 23rd August 1956 we drew 1-1 with Liverpool, which was also played on a Thursday.

Old_pie
14-09-2023, 10:32 AM
Attendance was 11.617

Billy Wright didn't play.

Notts: Bradley Cruickshanks Groome Loxley Russell Chatham Roby Wylie McCormack Jackson Wills
Wolverhampton Wanderers: Williams Shorthouse Harris Slater Howells Hooper Broadbent Murray Booth Mullen

Edit: There's a Wolves player missing from their line-up, but I'm going by the OCR


........ Ron Wylie The Notts leader had only to tap the ball through. After 52 minutes Broadbent scored from Booth’s pass Two minutes later Chatham equalised after a mistake by Williams from Roby’s flag-kick Notts assumed complete control when Wills converted a Roby centre County moved smartly in this half and kept Wolves under heavy pressure. Bradley saved brilliantly from Slater’s spot kick McCormack scored County’s fourth goal after 8?’ minutes from a Roby centre

May my gob be smacked. Reliability of memories :?

It was a couiple of years later when I first regularly went down to the Lane and Loxley, Roby and I think Russell were in the teams I then saw. Wolves were in those days a top top side. I hadn't realised how long Mullen has been around ;D

Must have been an evening KO under the crappy old floodlights but I don't recall the trip there and back from Hucknall - train most likely.

That doesn't seem a bad attendance for a mid-week event.

Old_pie
14-09-2023, 10:38 AM
You must be conflating memories of two separate games.
On 23rd August 1956 we drew 1-1 with Liverpool, which was also played on a Thursday.

Oh dear, that is more likely with the possibility that someone told me wrong that the 1-1 game was v Wolves.

The May match would have been during the school term and I find it difficult to think my Dad would have had me out that late, whereas the Liverpool game would have been during holidays, though presumably still an evening KO?

upthemaggies
14-09-2023, 10:58 AM
Oh dear, that is more likely with the possibility that someone told me wrong that the 1-1 game was v Wolves.

The May match would have been during the school term and I find it difficult to think my Dad would have had me out that late, whereas the Liverpool game would have been during holidays, though presumably still an evening KO?

I wish I had this problem with my earliest Notts memories because it would have meant I'd have watched them in the mid-70s and seen the likes of Needham, Carter and Bradd, rather than having to wait until I was nearly 13 in 1982 when everything is very vivid and clear and we were just coming towards the end of the golden era.

Both the Wolves and Liverpool games kicked off at 6:30pm, so finishing around 8:10pm (with the typical 10 minute HT break they had back then and next to no added time) they probably didn't need to turn the floodlights on with dusk an hour or so later.

SmiffyPie
14-09-2023, 11:07 AM
The only ones I really remember are Bert Loxley and Don Roby.

sidders
17-09-2023, 03:34 PM
The only ones I really remember are Bert Loxley and Don Roby.

What about the wonderful Gerry Carver? The inventive Ron Wylie? Great goalie Jimmy Linton?
And seeing as we're on a thread linking Notts with Wolves - who could ever forget the combative Peter Russell, probably our most effective centre-half in the 50's and 60's. We signed him from the Wolves but unfortunately his temper came with him and he lost it with a spectator adjacent to the players tunnel after being sent off. Pete made Norman Hunter look effeminate!

nottsfan81
18-09-2023, 05:20 AM
He lived in chilwell. The current owner of the house told me that the house used to be owned by Notts

i961pie
18-09-2023, 10:36 AM
The only ones I really remember are Bert Loxley and Don Roby.
I can remember the team when I saw my first match aged 8 in 1959.
George Smith
John Butler. Harry Noon
John Sheridan. Bert Loxley. Gerry Carver
Don Roby Bob Forrest. Stan Newsham Roy Horobin. Alan Withers

Tony Hateley soon replaced Newsham and Bircumshaw came in for Noon who I think got injured.
No subs in those days. Happy Times.

Old_pie
18-09-2023, 11:53 AM
I can remember the team when I saw my first match aged 8 in 1959.
George Smith
John Butler. Harry Noon
John Sheridan. Bert Loxley. Gerry Carver
Don Roby Bob Forrest. Stan Newsham Roy Horobin. Alan Withers

Tony Hateley soon replaced Newsham and Bircumshaw came in for Noon who I think got injured.
No subs in those days. Happy Times.

Ditto!! Are you "with us withers"? "Horrorbin". You'd hear George Smith before you reached the ground if you were a few minutes late - no doubt whose ball it was.

We had two Bircumshaws, brothers iirc, Peter on the wing and Tony in defence.

i961pie
18-09-2023, 12:50 PM
I think Tony was older and made his debut first. In the summer at least one of them worked at the Straw factory in Bulwell owned by Notts chairman at the time Thompson. (I think that was his name).