New manager

[irish_pie]

OK so the dust is settling now and LW has gone to pastures new... I had a look at the latest manager odds and some scary ones in there...who do you guys think or hope for? I saw John Eustace at 10/1 and Gareth Ainsworth also at 10/1... either for me would be a decent punt.

[Woodypie]

John Sheridan is available! It will be a mystery person we have never heard of.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

OK so the dust is settling now and LW has gone to pastures new... I had a look at the latest manager odds and some scary ones in there...who do you guys think or hope for? I saw John Eustace at 10/1 and Gareth Ainsworth also at 10/1... either for me would be a decent punt.

Wouldn't mind John Eustace but not sure that there is a reasonable chance of that happening

[Notts78]

OK so the dust is settling now and LW has gone to pastures new... I had a look at the latest manager odds and some scary ones in there...who do you guys think or hope for? I saw John Eustace at 10/1 and Gareth Ainsworth also at 10/1... either for me would be a decent punt.

I’d stay away from the bookies on this one. Our last 2 managerial appointments were so left field that they didn’t appear in betting odds until it was practically a done deal.
Whoever comes in will be under pressure and the shadow of LW. It will be a tough gig.
I hope we somehow have a man in place before Grimsby. It gives him a little time before a tough run, but more importantly a chance to look at the squad and discuss any glaring gaps. Particularly if he wants to move away from 3 at the back.

[OP67]

As we know it'll not be anyone from any of the betting lists, luckily.

Gareth Ainsworth, bit early to be drinking innit? XD

[irish_pie]

John Sheridan is available! It will be a mystery person we have never heard of.

Which could be a good thing in fairness, a lot of names on there who send a shiver down my spine... LW was a complete unknown (well by me anyway) and did an amazing job... it could be an under 21 coach from some Premier or championship club, I trust the good brothers are doing their homework... sad to see Luke go but a little excited that a new guy can come in and sort out that porous defense.

[irish_pie]

As we know it'll not be anyone from any of the betting lists, luckily.

Gareth Ainsworth, bit early to be drinking innit? XD

The whiskey I got for Christmas is going down well pal 😊

[queenslandpie]

Interesting point to note is that around 8 years ago we employed Jamie Fullarton as first team manager on the acknowledged basis of an impressive power point presentation. He is now a PE teacher at Ackworth School according to Wikipedia. It's definitely been an interesting ride the last few years. Sometimes a sense of perspective is required!

[jackal2]

OK so the dust is settling now and LW has gone to pastures new... I had a look at the latest manager odds and some scary ones in there...who do you guys think or hope for? I saw John Eustace at 10/1 and Gareth Ainsworth also at 10/1... either for me would be a decent punt.

Both good managers.

Ainsworth did a tremendous job for many years at Wycombe, and Eustace's sacking by Birmingham was a disgrace and a travesty.

HOWEVER, I think a point made on the Magpie Circle podcast last night was a valid one. The owners will probably be looking for a 'Head Coach' who meets (at least) two fairly non-negotiable criteria:

1. Must believe in the playing the kind of attractive, passing football that has become our 'identity', particularly under Burchnall and Williams
2. Must be willing to accept that recruitment is a collective decision, not the sole preserve of the 'manager'

That will possibly rule out several notable/experienced names who are being mentioned in dispatches, but who perhaps would demand more freedom to change the style and sign "their own" players.

Recent history might point towards the appointment of another relatively young and possibly unheralded modern-thinking coach who understands and accepts these criteria, and the idea that they are a 'Head Coach' rather than a 'Manager'. Based on the evidence so far, this has been far more successful than the 'traditional' approach we saw in the past, where managers chopped and changed, the team/club struggled to find its identity, and recruitment was a complete basket-case.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Only from a bit of gossip from a friend who works with Brentford but Neil MacFarlane has apparently been approached by a club currently without a manager. Don’t know if it’s Notts or not but he sort of fits the mold from what I’ve googled. One to throw into the mix as a bit left field. I would think he’s paid more than Notts would offer though even as an under 21 coach!

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Maybe we might be going continental this time.?

[jackal2]

Maybe we might be going continental this time.?

Aye but which continent? Radar have eyes everywhere!

Better than going incontinent, which I think we did with some of our manager choices under previous owners!

[WarsopPie]

Only from a bit of gossip from a friend who works with Brentford but Neil MacFarlane has apparently been approached by a club currently without a manager. Don’t know if it’s Notts or not but he sort of fits the mold from what I’ve googled. One to throw into the mix as a bit left field. I would think he’s paid more than Notts would offer though even as an under 21 coach!

Hope not my brother in law played under him at Kidderminster says his tactics are awful but he’s a nice guy.
Maynard now 2/1 fav.

[Iremongersrighthand]

I would be surprised if any of the names mentioned as a replacement for LW would be on the Bros list. They tend to go for an unknown who is happy to buy into their football philosophy. Did anyone of us know who IB or Luke Williams was before they came here? Were they on 'our' list of potential managers?

[magpie_mania]

Stuart Maynard favourite at the moment.

Interesting take on the NL - not sure I agree with him.

'Wealdstone manager Stuart Maynard believes the Vanarama National League has never been more competitive or challenging - even with Wrexham and Notts County long gone'

[the_anticlough]

Stuart Maynard favourite at the moment.

Interesting take on the NL - not sure I agree with him.

'Wealdstone manager Stuart Maynard believes the Vanarama National League has never been more competitive or challenging - even with Wrexham and Notts County long gone'

He would say that when they're sitting 12th with 11 clubs ahead of them.

[TSANHO]

Maybe we might be going continental this time.?

For no particular reason Ive got that feeling too. Lots of young modern coaches in America at the minute. People like IB and the ilk in Scandinavia as well. The guy at Brighton as well?

Doubt we’ll have heard of the new guy until the last minute!

[CheltenhamPie]

For no particular reason Ive got that feeling too. Lots of young modern coaches in America at the minute. People like IB and the ilk in Scandinavia as well. The guy at Brighton as well?

Doubt we’ll have heard of the new guy until the last minute!
I hope the last minute comes very soon.

[marky]

Hope we're not gonna end up like Oxford, they lost their manager a few weeks ago then faffed around for over a week before appointing a bloke who's barely won a game yet.

[LaxtonLad]

Whoever gets the job they will find a very capable attack and midfield already in place so if he/she/it knows what a defence is and how to shape and organise one he/she/it'll do for me.

[the_anticlough]

Like many others, I'm confident the bros will appoint just like they did with IB and LW - so no point speculating on anybody in that case.

I'll just add one caveat - ideally it will be someone able to maintain our momentum from the promotion as well as ticking the boxes for playing identity and concentration on coaching duties. Upward momentum is a rare commodity and it'd be a shame to waste it.

[Kyle95]

I made no secret that i wanted Karl Robinson. Annoyingly he's gone to Salford, who are leading already. He will take them up within 18 months. We have one chance of getting Eustace and that's no chance. Ainsworth doesn't fit our model at all. I think it will be either Stuart Maynard or Brian Barry Murphy.

[the_anticlough]

or Brian Barry Murphy.

Main club as a player? Bury
Main club as a manager? Rochdale

Reminds me of that Bernard Manning joke. Brian, you're a jinx


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dvFl35MjI0

[Kyle95]

Main club as a player? Bury
Main club as a manager? Rochdale

Reminds me of that Bernard Manning joke. Brian, you're a jinx


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dvFl35MjI0

He got a lot of plaudits at Rochdale for their style of play despite a tiny budget. He's very well respected, hence why he's manager of the development squad at Man City.

[jackal2]

Main club as a player? Bury
Main club as a manager? Rochdale

Reminds me of that Bernard Manning joke. Brian, you're a jinx


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dvFl35MjI0


The logic reminds me of a joke in The Simpsons when one of the employees at the Burns Nuclear Power Plant comments:

"Homer Simpson's a great motivator. Everybody else has to work a lot harder when he's on duty!"

[Notts78]

For those that wouldn’t have minded Karl Robinson, been sent off 14 minutes in to his Salford managerial debut.

[matt_magpie]

I did read on Twitter Maynard hasn’t actually got his UEFA A licence, not sure if he’s able to manage in the EFL because of that ??

[Kyle95]

For those that wouldn’t have minded Karl Robinson, been sent off 14 minutes in to his Salford managerial debut.

Yes, sent off for stopping a quick throw. How ridiculous...

[Chicken Balti Pie]

I did read on Twitter Maynard hasn’t actually got his UEFA A licence, not sure if he’s able to manage in the EFL because of that ??

He won't be able to no

[jacobncfc]

He would say that when they're sitting 12th with 11 clubs ahead of them.

To be fair, twelfth in the National League is an unbelievable achievement for Wealdstone. Still a genuinely part-time club.

[jacobncfc]

He won't be able to no

It’s a bit more lenient than that - you get three years to get it.

[Notts78]

Yes, sent off for stopping a quick throw. How ridiculous...

Classless.

Trying to waste time after 14 minutes.

[jackal2]

It’s a bit more lenient than that - you get three years to get it.

A cynic might think these licenses are another money-making tick-box racket for the football authorities. Results are the qualifications that matter. As you say, taking a genuinely part-time club to mid-table in the National League these days is pretty impressive.

[marky]

To be fair, twelfth in the National League is an unbelievable achievement for Wealdstone. Still a genuinely part-time club.

Be a bit like us being twelfth in the Championship.

[jacobncfc]

A cynic might think these licenses are another money-making tick-box racket for the football authorities. Results are the qualifications that matter. As you say, taking a genuinely part-time club to mid-table in the National League these days is pretty impressive.

The idea you’re qualified to manage a team in the fifth tier but not the fourth tier is a bit stupid. I get why they exist and for the most part they’re good for developing better coaches, but in the case of someone like Maynard or Marc White at Dorking who has worked their way up through the non-league system, I’m not sure we really need to have a rule where they have to go and get a bit of paper to go any higher.

Would be like making Langstaff go back to striker school before he could play this season.

[slack_pie]

Maynard seems to be doing a good job at what is a very small club, but is that the ideal preparation for managing a relatively big club that's aiming for promotion?

[Could'vebeenacontender]

For those that wouldn’t have minded Karl Robinson, been sent off 14 minutes in to his Salford managerial debut.

Par for the course for him
An out of control guy

[jackal2]

Maynard seems to be doing a good job at what is a very small club, but is that the ideal preparation for managing a relatively big club that's aiming for promotion?

The owners I'm sure would like promotion, but I don't think they're necessarily "aiming" for it or demanding it in the sense of putting a manager under pressure if they don't deliver it this season. That's more like the old days of five-year plans and "top three" budgets.

These owners will be looking for a Head Coach who can continue to deliver gradual improvement, whilst understanding that there are all sorts of variables - not least multiple long-term injuries - that can affect form and promotion prospects at any given time. It's not a 'promotion or bust' mentality these days, and that's precisely why we have more stability.

[matt_magpie]

Maynard seems to be doing a good job at what is a very small club, but is that the ideal preparation for managing a relatively big club that's aiming for promotion?

As long as he’s got the character to do it then yes. What’s even more impressive is their style of play when he’s got limited time with players.

[the_anticlough]

As long as he’s got the character to do it then yes. What’s even more impressive is their style of play when he’s got limited time with players.

Look at his profile and you'll see he's been at 10+ clubs all (bar 4 games) within a few miles radius of his place of birth
I think he'd get a nose bleed coming up to Nottingham, and maybe his mum wouldn't let him anyway.

Only joking, but we do need someone who can settle in the area I think

[cher1]

The idea you’re qualified to manage a team in the fifth tier but not the fourth tier is a bit stupid. I get why they exist and for the most part they’re good for developing better coaches, but in the case of someone like Maynard or Marc White at Dorking who has worked their way up through the non-league system, I’m not sure we really need to have a rule where they have to go and get a bit of paper to go any higher.

Would be like making Langstaff go back to striker school before he could play this season.

Mmm, am with you on that.

As for Karl Robinson, I just don't see us ever going for someone like him whilst the brothers are in charge. A quick Google tells you he's been banned from the touchline at least 4 times.

[matt_magpie]

Look at his profile and you'll see he's been at 10+ clubs all (bar 4 games) within a few miles radius of his place of birth
I think he'd get a nose bleed coming up to Nottingham, and maybe his mum wouldn't let him anyway.

Only joking, but we do need someone who can settle in the area I think

As a part time player, yer not going to upsticks for a part time wage are you?

[jacobncfc]

Maynard’s Wealdstone losing away from home today but with 69% possession and they’ve conceded a penalty. Very much the continuity option. :D

[maddogslater]

Good win for creepy at Bradford, Mansfield could have gone top today, whoops 🤭 😬

[marky]

Good win for creepy at Bradford, Mansfield could have gone top today, whoops �� ��

Crewe have gone above us though and Barrow are another 3 more points ahead of us.

[magpie_mania]

I made no secret that i wanted Karl Robinson. Annoyingly he's gone to Salford, who are leading already. He will take them up within 18 months. We have one chance of getting Eustace and that's no chance. Ainsworth doesn't fit our model at all. I think it will be either Stuart Maynard or Brian Barry Murphy.

Yeah, great day for Salford.

Karl Robinson leads by example and gets red carded, and they manage a 2 -2 home draw with Forest Green with a 91st min penalty to equalise.

Glad he's nowhere near ML, well until 23rd March anyway.

[WarsopPie]

Whoever gets the job they will find a very capable attack and midfield already in place so if he/she/it knows what a defence is and how to shape and organise one he/she/it'll do for me.

Greame Murty has suddenly hit the betting and is in at 3rd fav this would be some coup looking at his PPG ratio on Transfermkt.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Greame Murty has suddenly hit the betting and is in at 3rd fav this would be some coup looking at his PPG ratio on Transfermkt.

Remember that was Rangers not even in the SPL

[nw6pie]

Anyone betting on Notts’ next manager at this early stage is a lot braver than me. The first thing I have to do after most managerial appointments these days is a Google search - for the new Plymouth manager, Ian Foster, for example.

[for*sttown63]

A good win away for Crawley….still one of the best footballing sides we’ve played this season (twice)….worth a punt on their boss?

[nw6pie]

A good win away for Crawley….still one of the best footballing sides we’ve played this season (twice)….worth a punt on their boss?

They were very impressive going forward in both games, but their defending was pretty diabolical - so he’ll fit right in.

[SmiffyPie]

Stuart Maynard favourite at the moment.

Interesting take on the NL - not sure I agree with him.

'Wealdstone manager Stuart Maynard believes the Vanarama National League has never been more competitive or challenging - even with Wrexham and Notts County long gone'Well it will be more competitive now we have both been promoted. They are all equally poor!

[magpie_mania]

A good win away for Crawley….still one of the best footballing sides we’ve played this season (twice)….worth a punt on their boss?

Remind me how well it went last time we took their manager!

[nw6pie]

Remind me how well it went last time we took their manager!

You’re right. Given our track record buying things from Crawley (Kewell, McLeod and Enzio), we should probably avoid making that mistake again.

[TSANHO]

Henrik Jensen. No idea who he is without looking at google but been mentioned to me….ticks the right box in that I’ve never heard of him anyway.

[nw6pie]

Henrik Jensen. No idea who he is without looking at google but been mentioned to me….ticks the right box in that I’ve never heard of him anyway.

His Kalmar team finished sixth in the Swedish top division last year. I’ve never had any time for Swedish football since 1979, but it still feels like quite a drop to go from top tier there to fourth tier in England. He is Danish, but worked at the team who are huge rivals to Viborg (the brothers’ team in Denmark)

[Kyle95]

Remember that was Rangers not even in the SPL

Rangers were back in the SPL at the time.

[maddogslater]

Henrik Jensen. No idea who he is without looking at google but been mentioned to me….ticks the right box in that I’ve never heard of him anyway.
Sign him up, cool name and probably wears kronstadt sweaters, even better 😉

[Woodypie]

Sign him up, cool name and probably wears kronstadt sweaters, even better 😉
He has been out of management since 2014! That really would be a surprising punt

[tommopie8]

He has been out of management since 2014! That really would be a surprising punt

Think that's his playing career?

[Chicken Balti Pie]

He has been out of management since 2014! That really would be a surprising punt

There are two, I think they mean the younger one, not the 64 year old one

[jacobncfc]

Exciting to see club legend Matt Gill enter the odds!

[the_anticlough]

I think a bit more attention should be given to Stall's hunch - Gavin Strachan

[marky]

How would people feel about Mark Warburton as Notts manager, he generally likes to play passing football and has done fairly well everywehere apart from over the river where he didn't last long.

[BanjoPie]

How would people feel about Mark Warburton as Notts manager, he generally likes to play passing football and has done fairly well everywehere apart from over the river where he didn't last long.

His wholemeal is ok and particularly like his crumpets but think he would too much dough!

[matt_magpie]

Warburton is a very decent manager but I can’t see it happening. Matt Gill extremely similar to LW in that he’s Rusell Martins number 2 would certainly make the bros interested. The thing is all these coaches are clearly talented and geared up to what we need playing style wise but the owners have to assess if their leaders too.

[Notts78]

Warburton is a very decent manager but I can’t see it happening. Matt Gill extremely similar to LW in that he’s Rusell Martins number 2 would certainly make the bros interested. The thing is all these coaches are clearly talented and geared up to what we need playing style wise but the owners have to assess if their leaders too.

Not sure it’s talent. All these coaches get the same qualifications nowadays. All cut from the same cloth

[matt_magpie]

Not sure it’s talent. All these coaches get the same qualifications nowadays. All cut from the same cloth

Yes but the up and coming ones either managing lower down or getting head coach roles at prem/champ clubs must be the ones that are showing a bit more than others. Also whilst technically you can argue they learn the same things that doesn’t mean they have the same footballing philosophies, even the best 2 managers in the prem have totally different philosophies.
It’s going to be possession based for us and the new coach will have to be a believer in that.

[WarsopPie]

Yes but the up and coming ones either managing lower down or getting head coach roles at prem/champ clubs must be the ones that are showing a bit more than others. Also whilst technically you can argue they learn the same things that doesn’t mean they have the same footballing philosophies, even the best 2 managers in the prem have totally different philosophies.
It’s going to be possession based for us and the new coach will have to be a believer in that.

New name in the betting now at 8/1 some guy called Alan Connell

[BanjoPie]

New name in the betting now at 8/1 some guy called Alan Connell

This is him - current Bournemouth youth team coach
https://youtu.be/AL_oe_aiGUU?si=Pz-sayjVPpldl-Zl

[WarsopPie]

This is him - current Bournemouth youth team coach
https://youtu.be/AL_oe_aiGUU?si=Pz-sayjVPpldl-Zl

Surprised Carl Martin isn’t in there too then he’s at Bournemouth too.

[BigFatPie]

Exciting to see club legend Matt Gill enter the odds!

Matt Gill would be hilarious. Thankfully we don’t play Rushden & D anymore.

[Elite_Pie]

Matt Gill would be hilarious. Thankfully we don’t play Rushden & D anymore.

It's a very strange one, but you never know. Ian McParland was a great player for us but a bloody awful manager.

Maybe Matt Gill could be the reverse?

[upthemaggies]

It's a very strange one, but you never know. Ian McParland was a great player for us but a bloody awful manager.

Maybe Matt Gill could be the reverse?

Guy Branston was even worse for us behind a desk than he was on the pitch.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

How would people feel about Mark Warburton as Notts manager, he generally likes to play passing football and has done fairly well everywehere apart from over the river where he didn't last long.

Well he did ok in scottish football with Rangers, but then again so could my nan !! Hasn't he bombed after that certainly at QPR..
Some might say hes gone stale and would want a big crust in wages.im sure he doesnt know what a cob is either being a southerner !!!

[matt_magpie]

It's a very strange one, but you never know. Ian McParland was a great player for us but a bloody awful manager.

Maybe Matt Gill could be the reverse?

I don’t think it’s strange, recent history shows us not great players can become great mangers , mourihno, Klopp, Wenger etc and great players not becoming great managers, Rooney the last example, there’s probably just a comical element that he was ridiculed as a player for us, he wasn’t on his own tbf at the time.

[Piessince67]

Higgins in from 8 to 4/1 2nd fav .Interesting

[Notts78]

Surprised Carl Martin isn’t in there too then he’s at Bournemouth too.

Put a tenner on him and he will appear

[OP67]

Don't think it'll be Stuart Maynard, his stats are dreadful!!

[nw6pie]

I wonder if Notts will see Phil Parkinson at Altrincham as an option again (reportedly). They’re fifth in the NL with, you’d imagine, a pretty average budget. He tries to play the right way, but has now been at Alty for over six years and it’s a big step-up to Notts.

[irishpete]

Higgins in from 8 to 4/1 2nd fav .Interesting

He has a wealthy chairman, also a boring b@stard. Don't know why we even looked at him last time. Will have to listen to local radio tomorrow to see what they have to say over here about this

[WarsopPie]

OK so the dust is settling now and LW has gone to pastures new... I had a look at the latest manager odds and some scary ones in there...who do you guys think or hope for? I saw John Eustace at 10/1 and Gareth Ainsworth also at 10/1... either for me would be a decent punt.

Seen on some account on Twitter or X whichever you want to call it that Andrew Sparkes is a name mentioned who’s coming in with the new manager probably 100% BS but thought I’d post

[jacobncfc]

I don’t think it’s strange, recent history shows us not great players can become great mangers , mourihno, Klopp, Wenger etc and great players not becoming great managers, Rooney the last example, there’s probably just a comical element that he was ridiculed as a player for us, he wasn’t on his own tbf at the time.

To be fair to Gill, he’s an all too common example of a clearly decent footballer that basket case 2000s Notts never came close to getting anything out of. Went on to have a very useful career with Exeter and Bristol Rovers, even played a few times in the Championship with Norwich.

[upthemaggies]

Don't think it'll be Stuart Maynard, his stats are dreadful!!


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I hope it's Bjorn Hamberg and we get Ben Burgess as his no.2.

[jacobncfc]

Don't think it'll be Stuart Maynard, his stats are dreadful!!

It’s all relative - managing Manchester City they’d be dreadful, managing Wealdstone they’re outstanding.

[matt_magpie]

It’s all relative - managing Manchester City they’d be dreadful, managing Wealdstone they’re outstanding.

Agree, I’d say his stats are extremely good, their part time competing against mainly full time teams and playing very good football.

[SwalePie]

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I hope it's Bjorn Hamberg and we get Ben Burgess as his no.2.

Same here, but only if we can get Frank Furter on the set pieces.

[WarsopPie]

Same here, but only if we can get Frank Furter on the set pieces.

I’m surprised Nathan Jones hasn’t been mentioned yet after what he did for Luton, Currently unemployed.

[tommopie8]

Same here, but only if we can get Frank Furter on the set pieces.

Not an appointment I'd relish.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

I’m surprised Nathan Jones hasn’t been mentioned yet after what he did for Luton, Currently unemployed.

i think he's aiming higher , i think he's in the running for the Brummie vacancy !

[CamPie]

I’m surprised Nathan Jones hasn’t been mentioned yet after what he did for Luton, Currently unemployed.

I think he’s been gone too long.

[Lullapie]

"However, he remained popular with the club's fans for the success that he brought the club. He also oversaw many unorthodox developments at the club, including the tactical repositioning of the away team dugout, ensuring the grass around the corner area was longer so as to slow the ball down when played in that part of the pitch, and the practice of throwing buckets of cold water over players before a match."

In the 1990s, I had a team mate of mine who played under this manager. He said the weirdest thing was that, as a defender, he was told to boot the ball out as much as possible. Then when the opposing team had a throw in, they only had 10 players on the pitch - which meant they were at a disadvantage.

I love managers who have weird ideas, because often, they are the most successful.

[nw6pie]

"However, he remained popular with the club's fans for the success that he brought the club. He also oversaw many unorthodox developments at the club, including the tactical repositioning of the away team dugout, ensuring the grass around the corner area was longer so as to slow the ball down when played in that part of the pitch, and the practice of throwing buckets of cold water over players before a match."

In the 1990s, I had a team mate of mine who played under this manager. He said the weirdest thing was that, as a defender, he was told to boot the ball out as much as possible. Then when the opposing team had a throw in, they only had 10 players on the pitch - which meant they were at a disadvantage.

I love managers who have weird ideas, because often, they are the most successful.

That can only be John Beck. I’d say the weird, outside-the-box thinking can work in the short term but not over a prolonged period of time. No substitute for well coached, talented players with a will to win.

[Lullapie]

That can only be John Beck. I’d say the weird, outside-the-box thinking can work in the short term but not over a prolonged period of time. No substitute for well coached, talented players with a will to win.

Top marks!

[cher1]

I was going to guess Beck too. Living in Cambridge in those days, he was a legend for his unorthodox methods.

[OP67]

It’s all relative - managing Manchester City they’d be dreadful, managing Wealdstone they’re outstanding.

Not sure I'd call a 30% win rate outstanding XD

[LLCoolA]

I made no secret that i wanted Karl Robinson. Annoyingly he's gone to Salford, who are leading already. He will take them up within 18 months. We have one chance of getting Eustace and that's no chance. Ainsworth doesn't fit our model at all. I think it will be either Stuart Maynard or Brian Barry Murphy.

Nowadays I don't know that many people in the game. But those that I do all all very uncomplimentary about KR. Certainly I am not sure Jodi would have hung around if he had come in. That story is a bit bonkers!

[slack_pie]

Re Brian Barry-Murphy, I'm not sure how easy it would be to tempt him away from his job at Man City - unless he has a strong desire to step back into coaching/managing a first team. I'd imagine he has a pretty good gig at the moment. It's a prestigious position and probably well paid, but without all the drama and stress of managing an actual football club.

[WarsopPie]

Re Brian Barry-Murphy, I'm not sure how easy it would be to tempt him away from his job at Man City - unless he has a strong desire to step back into coaching/managing a first team. I'd imagine he has a pretty good gig at the moment. It's a prestigious position and probably well paid, but without all the drama and stress of managing an actual football club.

Stuart Maynard now 5/4, Cameron Toshack has appeared as a new entry at 14/1 😂😂

[slack_pie]

Stuart Maynard now 5/4, Cameron Toshack has appeared as a new entry at 14/1 ����

The Maynard one worries me a bit. Sure, he's done a good job to have them well above a relegation battle, but it seems like a massive gamble to go for someone who's lost more games than they've won and who manages a part-time team. Obviously he's working with fewer resources than most other NL teams, but still, I'm not sure that directly translates to doing a great job at a club with more resources and bigger ambitions.

It's a mentality thing. He'd have to go from any win being a great result to a win being the least we expect. Not easy. Whoever comes in needs to be able to build on what LW built and push us forwards. We have so much momentum at the moment that we can't afford to stagnate.

[SmiffyPie]

The Maynard one worries me a bit. Sure, he's done a good job to have them well above a relegation battle, but it seems like a massive gamble to go for someone who's lost more games than they've won and who manages a part-time team. Obviously he's working with fewer resources than most other NL teams, but still, I'm not sure that directly translates to doing a great job at a club with more resources and bigger ambitions.

It's a mentality thing. He'd have to go from any win being a great result to a win being the least we expect. Not easy.Was going to say something similar. OK the Bros will more than likely go for someone unexpected but Maynard has nothing really to offer (on paper at least).

[jacobncfc]

Not sure I'd call a 30% win rate outstanding XD

With Wealdstone in the National League it is. Just like if Luton's manager ended this season with a 30% win rate, he'd probably win manager of the year.

[WarsopPie]

With Wealdstone in the National League it is. Just like if Luton's manager ended this season with a 30% win rate, he'd probably win manager of the year.

Just wondering what people’s thoughts are on the current situation this week could be a big week, so people think JOB will be in charge on Saturday or do we think the Bros will bring someone in before the weekend?
I’m thinking JOB will take training this week and the new man could be announced before Saturday.
Suppose it all depends if whoever gets the job is already unemployed or not as a man in current employment the move would surely be a longer process.

[tripie]

Just wondering what people’s thoughts are on the current situation this week could be a big week, so people think JOB will be in charge on Saturday or do we think the Bros will bring someone in before the weekend?
I’m thinking JOB will take training this week and the new man could be announced before Saturday.
Suppose it all depends if whoever gets the job is already unemployed or not as a man in current employment the move would surely be a longer process.

I think 2 to 4 weeks is more likely. The brothers don't cut corners.

[Kent Magpie]

Didn't it take Swansea 31 days? I would think we would take a similar length of time, just because of the way the Brothers do things thoroughly.

[jacobncfc]

Depends if they have someone in mind or not. Burchnall was in a day or two after Ardley was sacked, whereas with Williams they seemed to go through quite a long interview process with several people.

[slack_pie]

With Wealdstone in the National League it is. Just like if Luton's manager ended this season with a 30% win rate, he'd probably win manager of the year.

But would the Luton manager then be considered the ideal candidate to take a team like Manchester United and win the league? Probably not, because the approach needed to get Luton to win 30% of their games wouldn't be what's required to get United to win the league.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Depends if they have someone in mind or not. Burchnall was in a day or two after Ardley was sacked, whereas with Williams they seemed to go through quite a long interview process with several people.

Burchnall was set to come in at the end of the season, the brothers had every intention of letting Ardley see out his contract but then some league 1 clubs came calling about Burchnall so the timeline shifted. Hence all the nice words for Ardley when he left as well as the friendly and also the great references and helping getting him hooked up with Solihull.

[legs77]

But would the Luton manager then be considered the ideal candidate to take a team like Manchester United and win the league? Probably not, because the approach needed to get Luton to win 30% of their games wouldn't be what's required to get United to win the league.

PL footy is different they can attract whoever they like mainly.

Luton manager might even be better than ETH is !

Look at Klopp took over 2nd tier Mainz then got Dortmund job where he was expected to win most weeks.

You've either got it or you havent thats a decision for our owners.

[durhampie]

Didn't it take Swansea 31 days? I would think we would take a similar length of time, just because of the way the Brothers do things thoroughly.

They were probably waiting for the FA cup week to appoint Williams, knowing that we would not have a game for 2 weeks

[jacobncfc]

But would the Luton manager then be considered the ideal candidate to take a team like Manchester United and win the league? Probably not, because the approach needed to get Luton to win 30% of their games wouldn't be what's required to get United to win the league.

Well, going for the winning every game at Ajax approach hasn't worked for them. ;)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not particularly sold on Maynard, I don't know much about him. I just think his work at Wealdstone is clearly really impressive and I think looking at people excelling in the league below is always a good option.

Really I think the appointment has to be about culture as much as it does someone's managerial record. Clearly some success, whether as a number one or a coach, is going to be needed, but the most important thing is whether they're going to fit into the way the club works, build on a style of football that's been successful, and have the personality to keep things moving. All stuff we can't tell from their Wiki stats.

[TedBovisPie]

Well, going for the winning every game at Ajax approach hasn't worked for them. ;)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not particularly sold on Maynard, I don't know much about him. I just think his work at Wealdstone is clearly really impressive and I think looking at people excelling in the league below is always a good option.

Really I think the appointment has to be about culture as much as it does someone's managerial record. Clearly some success, whether as a number one or a coach, is going to be needed, but the most important thing is whether they're going to fit into the way the club works, build on a style of football that's been successful, and have the personality to keep things moving. All stuff we can't tell from their Wiki stats.

I’m not convinced about Maynard either, I like his attitude and how he wants to play and what he has done at Wealdstone. However unlike IB and LW he hasn’t done any coaching at a higher than NL level and that does give cause for concern.

[BanjoPie]

Rather have a manager untested at L2 level than one of the many managers on the merry-go round that have tried and failed!

[Could'vebeenacontender]

Rather have a manager untested at L2 level than one of the many managers on the merry-go round that have tried and failed!

I believe JOB is interested in the job
Maybe we will see how he gets on in the next few games

[upthemaggies]

I wouldn't go quite as far as saying it's a lottery, but the outcome in selecting any manager is a lot closer to that than most people perceive it to be I think.

An impressive knowledge of the game is a given in this day and age with all of the coaching badges and the resources managers now have with videos of every game and the stats, but in terms of personality, look at Brian Clough, he went down to 3rd tier Brighton and did f-all there, he even lost a televised home game against Bristol Rovers 8-2. Peter Taylor did a better job there after Clough left him to it and went to Leeds IIRC. His contemporary Lawrie McMenemy who did absolute wonders for Southampton had been sacked by Doncaster Rovers before then. Graham Taylor, for me the greatest FL manager ever in taking Watford from the 4th tier to runners up in the top flight was a disaster for England. Toshack, once linked with the Liverpool job for his miracle work with Swansea, didn't do much after his side got relegated. Closer to home, Howard Kendall.

Managers can come from nowhere and become club legends and vice-versa. Obviously helps if you have a good relationship with the owner, but that didn't help Ardley or Burch get us to where we wanted to be.

It's a big big decision and I don't envy the owners having to make it. With owners you've just got to hope they can pick up the pieces if it goes wrong, which carries a pretty high probability.

[slack_pie]

I believe JOB is interested in the job
Maybe we will see how he gets on in the next few games

Let's see how he does. One thing we know about Jim is he has a big personality, and I think that's an important ingredient in a leader. LW had it, IB didn't. Tactics and coaching are important, but you also need to be able to inspire the players and fans.

[durhampie]

Well, going for the winning every game at Ajax approach hasn't worked for them. ;)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not particularly sold on Maynard, I don't know much about him. I just think his work at Wealdstone is clearly really impressive and I think looking at people excelling in the league below is always a good option.

Really I think the appointment has to be about culture as much as it does someone's managerial record. Clearly some success, whether as a number one or a coach, is going to be needed, but the most important thing is whether they're going to fit into the way the club works, build on a style of football that's been successful, and have the personality to keep things moving. All stuff we can't tell from their Wiki stats.

Maynard has only got the eufa B coaching badge, whereas Jim holds the eufa A coaching badge, which makes him more qualified than Maynard..

[Kent Magpie]

Let's see how he does. One thing we know about Jim is he has a big personality, and I think that's an important ingredient in a leader. LW had it, IB didn't. Tactics and coaching are important, but you also need to be able to inspire the players and fans.
You can get other people to do the coaching and tactics for you (wasn't it Clough who only saw the players pre-match), but you need to be able to lead, plan and organise. I wonder if that is why LW took Harley and the coach with him? Leadership is the key attribute of the head coach though.

[matt_magpie]

Maynard has only got the eufa B coaching badge, whereas Jim holds the eufa A coaching badge, which makes him more qualified than Maynard..

I think Maynard’s 150 odd games as a manager supersedes JOB getting his A licence.
I’m not hell bent on Maynard as I don’t know what sort of character he is, but people looking at win %s are looking in the wrong place.
Their a part time side more than competing in the National league and with style, I think last years mid table finish was there best in 40 odd years.

[theadissey]

I believe JOB is interested in the job
Maybe we will see how he gets on in the next few games

If he does alright, he might get the Doyle gig of assistant manager as a continuation of dressing rooms spirit etc.

That probs does hinder on if he does alright and we get cover in midfield...

[jacobncfc]

I wouldn't go quite as far as saying it's a lottery, but the outcome in selecting any manager is a lot closer to that than most people perceive it to be I think.

An impressive knowledge of the game is a given in this day and age with all of the coaching badges and the resources managers now have with videos of every game and the stats, but in terms of personality, look at Brian Clough, he went down to 3rd tier Brighton and did f-all there, he even lost a televised home game against Bristol Rovers 8-2. Peter Taylor did a better job there after Clough left him to it and went to Leeds IIRC. His contemporary Lawrie McMenemy who did absolute wonders for Southampton had been sacked by Doncaster Rovers before then. Graham Taylor, for me the greatest FL manager ever in taking Watford from the 4th tier to runners up in the top flight was a disaster for England. Toshack, once linked with the Liverpool job for his miracle work with Swansea, didn't do much after his side got relegated. Closer to home, Howard Kendall.

Managers can come from nowhere and become club legends and vice-versa. Obviously helps if you have a good relationship with the owner, but that didn't help Ardley or Burch get us to where we wanted to be.

It's a big big decision and I don't envy the owners having to make it. With owners you've just got to hope they can pick up the pieces if it goes wrong, which carries a pretty high probability.

Funnily enough, John Toshack’s son, Cameron, is the latest contender to appear in the odds at 14/1.

[durhampie]

The eufa B coaching badge only allows the holder to be an assistant coach at EFL level..Surely that rules Maynard out ??

[matt_magpie]

The eufa B coaching badge only allows the holder to be an assistant coach at EFL level..Surely that rules Maynard out ??

I asked that earlier on and I think someone said they had a 3 year grace period to get??

[VerybigpieLittlepie]

Charlie trout Puerto Rico head coach from Nottingham

[durhampie]

That's OK then, as they only last no more than 18 months in the job.

[legs77]

I asked that earlier on and I think someone said they had a 3 year grace period to get??

Interestingly how does that work out if as Durham says he did 18 months in an EFL job does he only have another 18 months to get it at another club or does it start all over again ?

[WarsopPie]

Interestingly how does that work out if as Durham says he did 18 months in an EFL job does he only have another 18 months to get it at another club or does it start all over again ?

Think it carries over mate till he or if he gets another EFL job and it’s deducted from the 3 years a bit like being on remand and having it taken off your sentence

[legs77]

Think it carries over mate till he or if he gets another EFL job and it’s deducted from the 3 years a bit like being on remand and having it taken off your sentence

Thank you and he is likely to pass it in 3 years anyway you’d think !

It’s probably the cost of getting one which has stopped him as think it’s fairly pricey to train for them especially if you are part time as well and not sure if he does anything else work wise.

[irish_pie]

Charlie trout Puerto Rico head coach from Nottingham

Something fishy about that guy 🤔

[TedBovisPie]

Something fishy about that guy 🤔

Can’t see his application making it over the fin-ishing line.

[WarsopPie]

Thank you and he is likely to pass it in 3 years anyway you’d think !

It’s probably the cost of getting one which has stopped him as think it’s fairly pricey to train for them especially if you are part time as well and not sure if he does anything else work wise.

He works as a BT engineer, think also there’s so much time you have do on a residential towards the badge too.

[Nigel_M]

Can’t see his application making it over the fin-ishing line.

He could have Matty Gill as assistant

[matt_magpie]

He works as a BT engineer, think also there’s so much time you have do on a residential towards the badge too.

I did wonder if he was possibly full time at the club picking up other bits but ifs he’s got a full time job and has managed to find time to prep and get his team to play the way they do then it’s extremely impressive, I’ve heard him talk a few times and he definitely knows his stuff.
It would be a really interesting appointment as there’s the obvious question is can he step up to a club like Notts but there’s also the question if he’s given all that extra time in the week and the resources we have then what could he achieve?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Something fishy about that guy 🤔

Are we poaching him..!?

[lunaspie]

Charlie trout Puerto Rico head coach from Nottingham

He's part of the rainbow coalition.

[queenslandpie]

He's part of the rainbow coalition.

Gudgeon Thordasson is incoming I have it on good authority.

[lunaspie]

Gudgeon Thordasson is incoming I have it on good authority.

Cutthroat competition for Mr. Trout.

[meoldlaner]

He'd get battered every week, poor sole!

[i961pie]

We could find a plaice for him until he’s haddock enough. I’ll get me coat.

[PTID1862]

Heard the bros meeting him secretly at the Savaloy Hotel in London. Secrecy leaves the media feeding off scraps.

[CamPie]

I just hope the new boss inherits a squad breaming with confidence

[SmiffyPie]

Well whoever it is his schoal of thought needs to be beyond reproach or he might find himself in a stickleyback situation.

[slack_pie]

If JOB gets offered the position full time, will he be willing to hang up his boots? He can't have his hake and eat it too.

[Little15]

He'd probably have to scale back his playing career.

[applepie2]

I just hope the new boss inherits a squad breaming with confidence

I’d prefer a squid breaming with confidence. And an octopus in goal.

[Wedgie_pie]

God you lot have to be codding...

[tied_up_in_notts]

If JOB gets offered the position full time, will he be willing to hang up his boots? He can't have his hake and eat it too.
He'll probably keep on playing, it's only a haddock appointment

[OldBanksy]

Will JoB make himself skipper?

[ThePieWhoCameIn]

Are you lot making these up yourselves, or are you trawling the internet?

[TedBovisPie]

Can say what you like about Notts Mad but it’s one of the best plaice’s for a good pun.

[1955pie]

Are you lot making these up yourselves, or are you trawling the internet?

If you are joining us, this is sort of the high standard to expect.:o

[Kent Magpie]

I do think if JoB does well the world will be his oyster!

[1955pie]

When do you think he was first appRoached?

[i961pie]

I do think if JoB does well the world will be his oyster!

Or Lobster

[Kent Magpie]

True. One thing is for sure, eel do his best for our dace chubb.

[Could'vebeenacontender]

If you are joining us, this is sort of the high standard to expect.:o

Most forums are the same :o

[Kent Magpie]

This is top level punditry!

[1955pie]

2 wins in the next 2 games and he might seal the deal.

[1955pie]

I'm sure he'll be having a whale of a time anyway.

[slack_pie]

It may be shellfish, but I hope sign a big centre-back. I'm fed up of seeing the opposition out-mussel us.

[SmiffyPie]

It may be shellfish, but I hope sign a big centre-back. I'm fed up of seeing the opposition out-mussel us.Yes it's Halibut the way we approach our defensive play. Get it wrong and Turbot the grace of Cod we could get skinned every whelk!

[TheBlackHorse]

... if the catering department throw out some red meat, do you think we'll attract some killer sharks for defence...

[SwalePie]

... if the catering department throw out some red meat, do you think we'll attract some killer sharks for defence...

I'm not sure but in this weather it would be nice to be a little otter in the stands.

[lunaspie]

Just like Crowley and Bostock he's a spawn-again Christian.

[Elite_Pie]

This is top level punditry!

I think it's a load of pollocks.

[lunaspie]

Can say what you like about Notts Mad but it’s one of the best plaice’s for a good pun.

And a bad one.

[ThePieWhoCameIn]

I do think if JoB does well the world will be his oyster!


And if he doesn't some will call for his head on a pike.

[CamPie]

I’d prefer a squid breaming with confidence. And an octopus in goal.

Pollocks, I missed an opportunity there.

[lunaspie]

And if he doesn't some will call for his head on a pike.

Stupid boy.

[CamPie]

I hope we can sign players of the quality of Ray O’Brien and Geoff Pike and maybe look at bringing back Kane Herrings

[BigFatPie]

Sick of these puns, I just want news about the new HammerHead Coach. Mind you, I suppose that’s just me carping from the sidelines.

[slack_pie]

I just hope we don't appoint another Fullarton. That would be a real kick in the scallops.

[SmiffyPie]

Or worse still, right in the Gurnards!

[BanjoPie]

To be honest, I think the odds on Charlie Trout is just a Red Herring and is he just a Spratt to catch a Mackerel :D

[Magpike]

I hope we can sign players of the quality of Ray O’Brien and Geoff Pike and maybe look at bringing back Kane Herrings

😏 Knew I would be appreciated one day

[Big Bob]

Cone on lads, scale it down a bit

[PedroTheFisherman66]

as the French say La Fin please !!

[WarsopPie]

OK so the dust is settling now and LW has gone to pastures new... I had a look at the latest manager odds and some scary ones in there...who do you guys think or hope for? I saw John Eustace at 10/1 and Gareth Ainsworth also at 10/1... either for me would be a decent punt.

James rowberry into 12/1 from 20/1

[durhampie]

James rowberry into 12/1 from 20/1

Who the heck is James Rowberry ??

[BCnotts18]

Who the heck is James Rowberry ??

Ex Newport. Got sacked last season after getting 11 points from their first 13 games.

[nw6pie]

Ex Newport. Got sacked last season after getting 11 points from their first 13 games.

That would normally be a huge concern, but I’ve learned to trust the bros and their decision-making process. They won’t be appointing anyone who’s not a perfect fit for the system.

[Bohinen]

The thing about the brothers is they steer well clear of social media and have no little clique of hangers on, like Trew and Hardy did. You know, people who would suck up to them to glean titbits of information which they then shared on here, with people hanging on every word.

So I really don't see how the bookies can have any credible information, given they are the soul of discretion. The people who create the rumours are junior sports journalists who just make up the lists based on who they think will apply and their subjective judgement of which of those is the best. Some of the names are a horror show, to be honest. I don't need telling what a force Wealdstone are in the NL. This is Notts County amd nomarks need not apply.

[Notts78]

The thing about the brothers is they steer well clear of social media and have no little clique of hangers on, like Trew and Hardy did. You know, people who would suck up to them to glean titbits of information which they then shared on here, with people hanging on every word.

So I really don't see how the bookies can have any credible information, given they are the soul of discretion. The people who create the rumours are junior sports journalists who just make up the lists based on who they think will apply and their subjective judgement of which of those is the best. Some of the names are a horror show, to be honest. I don't need telling what a force Wealdstone are in the NL. This is Notts County amd nomarks need not apply.

My gut tells me that we’ll be approaching our man rather than looking at the best of those who apply.
The bookies have no idea… if I went and put a fiver on John Barnes with a bookie, he’d then appear on the odds list.
Next manager odds at any club is possibly the worst market. It’s not like betting on the result of a match which has 3 outcomes - the next manager is an open book with endless possibilities.
The Maynard fella is at the top of the odds as more people have bet on that outcome based on a rumour Notts want him. I’d be very surprised if we went for him, even IB and LW had some experience in professional football.

[matt_magpie]

Ex Newport. Got sacked last season after getting 11 points from their first 13 games.

He did manage 50 odd games though but had a poor start to that season, i read up about him on wiki, sounds interesting but absolutely no idea about him than what I read.

[SmiffyPie]

They will be looking very carefully for the right man. No panic is there, we are safe (you would think!) and JOB has the squad with him.

[slack_pie]

They will be looking very carefully for the right man. No panic is there, we are safe (you would think!) and JOB has the squad with him.

Agreed. LW leaving coupled with the injuries to key players (Palmer in particular) have made promotion pretty unlikely this season, so there's no major rush to get someone in. We need the right person so we can plan and build for a proper promotion push next season.

[WarsopPie]

That would normally be a huge concern, but I’ve learned to trust the bros and their decision-making process. They won’t be appointing anyone who’s not a perfect fit for the system.

Just checked the BetVictor market again, Nathan Jones and Bo Svenssen are in there now both at 12/1

[BigFatPie]

Just checked the BetVictor market again, Nathan Jones and Bo Svenssen are in there now both at 12/1

Purely based on trial by Wikipedia I’d be very happy with Bo Svenssen.

[OchPie]

Purely based on trial by Wikipedia I’d be very happy with Bo Svenssen.

You might enjoy this interview.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/bo-svensson-mainz-klopp-tuchel/

[Glad2BeAPie]

He's had success...

Honours
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Danish Superliga: 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2006
Danish Cup: 2004
Danish Super Cup: 2001, 2004
Royal League: 2005 and 2006

[OP67]

You might enjoy this interview.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/bo-svensson-mainz-klopp-tuchel/

I like the sound of this, sounds a perfect match B)

[irishpete]

Hmmm. Got sacked for only 3pts out of possible 27 @ Mainz this season, cracking

[matt_magpie]

Just checked the BetVictor market again, Nathan Jones and Bo Svenssen are in there now both at 12/1

I’d be absolutely shocked if we got one of them, i doubt there’s even a 10% chance, both recently managed in their country’s top division.

[slack_pie]

I’d be absolutely shocked if we got one of them, i doubt there’s even a 10% chance, both recently managed in their country’s top division.

Yeah, it would be a bit like us signing a decent first-team player from the Bundesliga or something, i.e. not going to happen.

[OP67]

Hmmm. Got sacked for only 3pts out of possible 27 @ Mainz this season, cracking

Ahhhhhhhhh maybe not then XD

[SmiffyPie]

Give it a go Bo, you know you want to!

[WarsopPie]

As we know it'll not be anyone from any of the betting lists, luckily.

Gareth Ainsworth, bit early to be drinking innit? XD

Someone must of had £20 on Cameron Toshack he was 14/1 this morning now he’s 6s 3rd fav.

[matt_magpie]

Someone must of had £20 on Cameron Toshack he was 14/1 this morning now he’s 6s 3rd fav.

I thinks thats the only thing driving it at the moment, a few Notts fans have probably backed Maynard as they know about him more and his style of play, let’s face it no one has a clue who’s coming 😂

[CamPie]

I’d be absolutely shocked if we got one of them, i doubt there’s even a 10% chance, both recently managed in their country’s top division.

So at 12-1 the bookies don’t think there’s a 10% chance either?

[lunaspie]

Hmmm. Got sacked for only 3pts out of possible 27 @ Mainz this season, cracking

Bo Svensson ? More like Bo Nidal.

[matt_magpie]

So at 12-1 the bookies don’t think there’s a 10% chance either?

If I was being honest I’d put Jones about 1% and the other guy at 5%, only because he’s danish too 😂

[OP67]

Hmmm. Got sacked for only 3pts out of possible 27 @ Mainz this season, cracking

Although looking at the previous manager stats no one seems to have done well at FSV Mainz 05 XD

Bo Svenssen did well at FC Liefering though....Look at Williams only other team he's been head coach at Swindon and he was shocking.

[irishpete]

...Look at Williams only other team he's been head coach at Swindon and he was shocking.

You might be adding Swansea to that;)
Think we can rule out Higgins from Derry. He has today signed a Striker from Dundalk

[Could'vebeenacontender]

I reckon we'll have someone in fairly quickly
Don't know who it is yet but I think talks have been going on
Apparently we've had an avalanche of applications which is encouraging

[legs77]

Although looking at the previous manager stats no one seems to have done well at FSV Mainz 05 XD

Bo Svenssen did well at FC Liefering though....Look at Williams only other team he's been head coach at Swindon and he was shocking.

You mean Tim Sherwood record at Swindon was shocking ?! 😉

[irishpete]

I reckon we'll have someone in fairly quickly
Don't know who it is yet but I think talks have been going on
Apparently we've had an avalanche of applications which is encouraging

I'd say the Bros have always had a hit list, especially after last season, the football that was played & media coverage we got. You have to have irons in the fire when you won't just employ any Tom, Dick or Harry

[BanjoPie]

I'd say the Bros have always had a hit list, especially after last season, the football that was played & media coverage we got. You have to have irons in the fire when you won't just employ any Tom, Dick or Harry

What are the betting odds on Tom, Dick & Harry? :D

[ThePieWhoCameIn]

Tom Dick and Harry would be more suited if we were bottom and trying to pull off the great escape.

[Swanzee]

Swans fan here in peace. Apologies for knicking your manager, us Swans fans know only too well what it's like to have our managers poached (Martinez, Rodgers, Potter and Martin).

On the issue of Cameron Toshack, his CV isn't the most impressive, but he could be an inspired left-field appointment. He coached Rodon, Dan James, Connor Roberts and Oli Mcburnie for Swansea U21s, with the team performing well as a Category One academy, playing a possession-led way.

Toshack often appeared in the past as a match day summarizer for Swans TV, and was by far the most impressive of all the myriad pundits employed. Articulate, insightful and measured, he made a big impression on me. I'm sure you could do a lot worse than appoint him.

If you continue down the possession path then hopefully there could be opportunities for us to loan you players which could be of mutual benefit. There are quite a few promising youngsters in our academy who need experience of first team football. Liam Smith is one who springs to mind. Ex Manchester City academy, very skilful number 10, who's ready to step up to men's football.

[Elite_Pie]

What are the betting odds on Tom, Dick & Harry? :D

No obvious Tom or Harry in the betting lists, but we've employed a fair few Dicks in the past.

[SwalePie]

Tom Dick and Harry would be more suited if we were bottom and trying to pull off the great escape.

Excellent! :)

[the_anticlough]

Swans fan here in peace. Apologies for knicking your manager, us Swans fans know only too well what it's like to have our managers poached (Martinez, Rodgers, Potter and Martin).

On the issue of Cameron Toshack, his CV isn't the most impressive, but he could be an inspired left-field appointment. He coached Rodon, Dan James, Connor Roberts and Oli Mcburnie for Swansea U21s, with the team performing well as a Category One academy, playing a possession-led way.

Toshack often appeared in the past as a match day summarizer for Swans TV, and was by far the most impressive of all the myriad pundits employed. Articulate, insightful and measured, he made a big impression on me. I'm sure you could do a lot worse than appoint him.

If you continue down the possession path then hopefully there could be opportunities for us to loan you players which could be of mutual benefit. There are quite a few promising youngsters in our academy who need experience of first team football. Liam Smith is one who springs to mind. Ex Manchester City academy, very skilful number 10, who's ready to step up to men's football.

I wouldn't watch a Toshack team if they were playing in my own back garden. I'd draw the curtains

[1955pie]

You might be adding Swansea to that;)
Think we can rule out Higgins from Derry. He has today signed a Striker from Dundalk

Swansea could have said
"Think we can rule out Williams from Notts. He has today signed a defender from Fleetwood"

[durhampie]

No obvious Tom or Harry in the betting lists, but we've employed a fair few Dicks in the past.

Agreed, we have had our fair share O:) But never anyone actually named Dick....

[irishpete]

Swansea could have said
"Think we can rule out Williams from Notts. He has today signed a defender from Fleetwood"
Not really, we know how we sign players, completely different to other club models. I can tell you 100% Derrys is nothing like ours, plus bank rolled & playing in Europe

[ncfcog]

I wouldn't watch a Toshack team if they were playing in my own back garden. I'd draw the curtains

You beat me to it!!!

Some things live long in the memory!

[BCnotts18]

Alan Sheehan has entered the odds at 12/1.

[BanjoPie]

You beat me to it!!!

Some things live long in the memory!

??

[ncfcog]

??

It was about 1981, Notts and Swansea had a few run ins, when asked about Notts Swansea manager John Toshack said if he saw Notts playing in his back garden he would close the blinds.

[1955pie]

It was about 1981, Notts and Swansea had a few run ins, when asked about Notts Swansea manager John Toshack said if he saw Notts playing in his back garden he would close the blinds.

Sounds like “Sins of the father” etc etc

[queenslandpie]

It would be good if on the betting for Notts manager there was an option for "someone nobody has ever heard of" although it would probably be 1/6.

[WarsopPie]

It would be good if on the betting for Notts manager there was an option for "someone nobody has ever heard of" although it would probably be 1/6.

Maynard now 1/2 odds on.
Hope too god it’s not going to be him.

[OP67]

Maynard now 1/2 odds on.
Hope too god it’s not going to be him.

I hope not as well, very uninspiring!!

[queenslandpie]

I hope not as well, very uninspiring!!

I am sure I am very much not the only one who was along the lines of "WHO?" when Luke Williams was appointed. So I will trust in the Brothers. The odds mean nowt as we found out with that Faroe Islands guy.

[uysapie]

All we can do is wait and see.

[Notts78]

I am sure I am very much not the only one who was along the lines of "WHO?" when Luke Williams was appointed. So I will trust in the Brothers. The odds mean nowt as we found out with that Faroe Islands guy.

Or LW odds for the Oxford job.

All the uninspiring comments, think back to IB and LW, both uninspiring at the time and both did OK/very well respectively. Out of curiosity who would be inspiring?

[slack_pie]

Or LW odds for the Oxford job.

All the uninspiring comments, think back to IB and LW, both uninspiring at the time and both did OK/very well respectively. Out of curiosity who would be inspiring?

I'm not sure about "inspiring" but there other names on the list that are more exciting. Brian Barry-Murphy has great pedigree, having been snapped up by Man City in what is a pretty key role for a massive club. He's also managed a full-time first team as well. In fact, the only person who has never managed a full-time professional team is Maynard. Not saying that should rule him out, but it's a massive jump from Wealdstone to Notts.

[matt_magpie]

I'm not sure about "inspiring" but there other names on the list that are more exciting. Brian Barry-Murphy has great pedigree, having been snapped up by Man City in what is a pretty key role for a massive club. He's also managed a full-time first team as well. In fact, the only person who has never managed a full-time professional team is Maynard. Not saying that should rule him out, but it's a massive jump from Wealdstone to Notts.

But he has managed 150 games of men’s football not youth players and implemented a style very similar to ours with limited time in the week and has them punching way above their weight, I think he deserves a bit more credit. That said it’s a jump but it’s also a jump for anyone who’s only been managing youth u23s, other sides have tried it in this league and it hasn’t worked.

[WarsopPie]

Or LW odds for the Oxford job.

All the uninspiring comments, think back to IB and LW, both uninspiring at the time and both did OK/very well respectively. Out of curiosity who would be inspiring?

LW was on odds on though for Swansea.

[WarsopPie]

I am sure I am very much not the only one who was along the lines of "WHO?" when Luke Williams was appointed. So I will trust in the Brothers. The odds mean nowt as we found out with that Faroe Islands guy.

I haven’t a good feeling about that Maynard I feel he will take us backwards and turn out to be another Russell Slade.

[Hoppie]

But he has managed 150 games of men’s football not youth players and implemented a style very similar to ours with limited time in the week and has them punching way above their weight, I think he deserves a bit more credit. That said it’s a jump but it’s also a jump for anyone who’s only been managing youth u23s, other sides have tried it in this league and it hasn’t worked.

How many of those 150 has he won? Style is great, but as we discovered with IB there’s another ingredient required to deliver substance.

[matt_magpie]

How many of those 150 has he won? Style is great, but as we discovered with IB there’s another ingredient required to deliver substance.

They’re part time? They shouldn’t even really survive in that league and it’s the highest they’ve been in 40 odd years finishing mid table, you can’t expect him to have a really good win % can you?

What no one really knows is who can take the pressure and lead at a reasonably sized club, he ticks the boxes of coaches men’s football, style of play and over achieving but like the others there’s the above we don’t know.

I remember us hiring a chiropodist with a history of managing non league clubs and he wasn’t too bad.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

It won't be Maynard. It's because a bunch of the xG idiots on twitter said something about him so people lumped on. It's not just about style of play but coaching, I suspect they'd want someone with a UEFA Pro license as that would give a great indication of the quality of their training methods

[matt_magpie]

It won't be Maynard. It's because a bunch of the xG idiots on twitter said something about him so people lumped on. It's not just about style of play but coaching, I suspect they'd want someone with a UEFA Pro license as that would give a great indication of the quality of their training methods

I’ve got a feeling it won’t be him but also not sure the qualification will effect it, like anything you can have people that have qualifications but can’t put it into practice and people like him that appear they have without the qualification, the owners have a another tough decision to make with us not hiring someone off the usual merry go around if that is the case again. I keep going on like a broken record but I think leadership skills should be the first priority, that was the key difference between LW and IB.

[ncfcog]

Losing LW and looking at potential replacements is one of the topics I discussed on last nights In The Game on Radio Nottingham …

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09x7ntn

[jacobncfc]

I don’t know why people seem so down on Maynard but Mike Williamson was always seen as a good and likely option for us until he went to MK. Wealdstone actually finished above Gateshead in the league last season despite being part-time and having fewer resources.

[slack_pie]

I don’t know why people seem so down on Maynard but Mike Williamson was always seen as a good and likely option for us until he went to MK. Wealdstone actually finished above Gateshead in the league last season despite being part-time and having fewer resources.

Fair point! I guess Mike Williamson has a promotion under his belt though. If I'm correct, Maynard came in the season after Wealdstone got promoted. You are right though, he's done a great job keeping them up since then, and they seem to be making steady improvement to the point that they're now in now real danger of getting relegated.

Regardless of what I think, if the bros think he's the right man for the job, then he is.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

I don’t know why people seem so down on Maynard but Mike Williamson was always seen as a good and likely option for us until he went to MK. Wealdstone actually finished above Gateshead in the league last season despite being part-time and having fewer resources.

Why is everyone hooked on national league people? We are a much more attractive proposition than when IB left

[Notts78]

Why is everyone hooked on national league people? We are a much more attractive proposition than when IB left

Nobody is hooked. It’s a conversation based purely on speculation. Swansea picked a manager from 2 leagues below yet we can’t talk about managers from 1 league below?
I can’t be arsed to go back to the threads about LW at the start of his tenure. But I know there were a fair few who questioned it. He was another IB. When he did a presser after a win in pre season and slammed the quality of our play, a few on here said he wouldn’t last. He was another uninspiring choice.
The reality is, Notts have a more than decent squad. If a bloke has failed or been successful elsewhere, it’s not a prerequisite of what will happen at Notts. That applies to players too.

[legs77]

Why is everyone hooked on national league people? We are a much more attractive proposition than when IB left

I guess we wouldnt be able to attract a manager from league above us if we want someone who has managed a first team before.

As for our league Wild stands out as he did a great job at Halifax and is carrying on his good work at Barrow.

Its going to be hard to get an U23 coach from PL/Championship clubs as their wages will likely be higher and its less pressure.

I like everyone else has zero clue who they will appoint as they dont go for the tried/tested failures.

[SmiffyPie]

I would imagine that the Bros will have more than half an ear on a manager that is hungry, ambitious and has "modern" ideas about the game. I would also think they would not want anyone with an ego (which will discount 75% of higher league managers IMO).

[1955pie]

I would imagine that the Bros will have more than half an ear on a manager that is hungry, ambitious and has "modern" ideas about the game. I would also think they would not want anyone with an ego (which will discount 75% of higher league managers IMO).

I agree no ego.
Does need someone with a little bit of charisma though, I think.

[1955pie]

I haven’t a good feeling about that Maynard I feel he will take us backwards and turn out to be another Russell Slade.

Whoever it is and from whatever background, we will have to support him 100%.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Whoever it is and from whatever background, we will have to support him 100%.

Including a mr Fullerton?!

[1955pie]

Including a mr Fullerton?!
We had different owners then.

[Wollat11]

Checking up a bit it looks like Maynard has 2 promotions under his belt.Hemel into NLS ( and then into playoffs for NL) and Wealdstone into NL. Although nominally as assistant to Dean Brennan. When Brennan went to Barnet Maynard stayed on and has somehow made them competitive at NL. So he's got a bit more under the bonnet than highlighted so far. All the more remarkable that he has a full time job outside of football.

[1955pie]

Just been reading that Ruaidhri Higgins was approached by Notts in 2022.

[slack_pie]

Just been reading that Ruaidhri Higgins was approached by Notts in 2022.

Yeah, he openly turned us down. I think that's the only reason he's among the odds at the moment.

[slack_pie]

I agree no ego.
Does need someone with a little bit of charisma though, I think.

I agree that charisma is important in a leader. LW was very humble and led by example, but he was also charismatic and interesting to listen to. Not easy to replace in that respect. I believe that LW was a better all-round coach than IB, but his personality was also more conducive to igniting passion in players and fans alike.

[matt_magpie]

Checking up a bit it looks like Maynard has 2 promotions under his belt.Hemel into NLS ( and then into playoffs for NL) and Wealdstone into NL. Although nominally as assistant to Dean Brennan. When Brennan went to Barnet Maynard stayed on and has somehow made them competitive at NL. So he's got a bit more under the bonnet than highlighted so far. All the more remarkable that he has a full time job outside of football.

That’s what I’m saying and the only reason I’ve highlighted him is that I’ve seen Wealdstone play and heard him talk a fair bit, apart from him and Wild I don’t know a lot about the rest being touted which I doubt many do.