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skandark
09-02-2024, 05:15 PM
Putting this up early. Team news to follow around 6:45pm
COYP!!!

CheezyNCFC
09-02-2024, 06:53 PM
Very very disappointing line up. None of the new lads and even more defence on bench. Negative negative negative

Not sure if you're reacting to the first team news post that was made in error or the actual team news but Warner is in the team and so is Robertson - Not sure who else you're expecting to see? This looks like our strongest 11 right now in my opinion, we just need to click again and get a run of good results together.

skandark
09-02-2024, 06:54 PM
25700

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 06:54 PM
Very very disappointing line up. None of the new lads and even more defence on bench. Negative negative negative
Eh? Warner is on, he's new. Robertson again, he's new, plus Morias back on bench...which gives us one more attacker than last week???
Sorry, I'm confused. You weren't expecting to see Jatta were you? He's not gonna get his visa cleared for a bit yet. The other lad Charlie Caulkett or whatever he's called will be nowhere near match fit.

MapperleyMagpie
09-02-2024, 06:54 PM
My bad, reacting to first team sheet. Would like to see the new midfielder in the bench .

CheezyNCFC
09-02-2024, 06:59 PM
No worries mate, I reacted the same when I saw no Warner and assumed he was injured XD

Feeling confident we can get back to winning ways tonight, COYP.

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 07:14 PM
My bad, reacting to first team sheet. Would like to see the new midfielder in the bench .

Meh if he's unfit then he won't be able to do anything Austin can't. Would rather he got up to speed first than gave us substandard performances and written off by some of the fans.

There's more than enough there to dispatch Gillingham.

JockPie
09-02-2024, 07:32 PM
Never mind all that Gillingham have a real life player called Shadrach....well I never!

SmiffyPie
09-02-2024, 08:01 PM
Get in!!!! Crowley

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 08:04 PM
Watching on ifollow.
Absolutely battering them to be fair .

JJ with 18th assist...record breaker!

SmiffyPie
09-02-2024, 08:07 PM
ffs

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 08:08 PM
And then...1 cross, 1 header...
League 2 showing that it's not about how well you play...its just about nouse

The_Don_ORiordan
09-02-2024, 08:09 PM
We’ve got to be attacking those crosses.

The_Don_ORiordan
09-02-2024, 08:11 PM
And then...1 cross, 1 header...
League 2 showing that it's not about how well you play...its just about nouse
There was an identical one a few minutes before. Which also wasn’t attacked by both us and them.

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 08:13 PM
So fg easy. We couldn't hold a dog lead.

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 08:16 PM
There was an identical one a few minutes before. Which also wasn’t attacked by both us and them.
Missed that...but it still remains...Gills had shown nothing. It was all Notts. This league is very unforgiving.

The_Don_ORiordan
09-02-2024, 08:19 PM
Missed that...but it still remains...Gills had shown nothing. It was all Notts. This league is very unforgiving.

Agree buddy

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 08:20 PM
They don't have to show anything...just put the ball in the air in Notts' box.It's been happening all season.

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 08:22 PM
So so easy to score against. Why don't we close down or even attempt to clear crosses?

The_Don_ORiordan
09-02-2024, 08:24 PM
Utterly pathetic defending. Why does no one try to get to any of these crosses?!?!

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 08:24 PM
Christ...Notts well on top again.
1 cross in to box...goal
Yeah, can be considered bad defending...but we just ain't got the nouse

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 08:26 PM
Stats just come up...

Gills...2 shots 2 goals...

All you need to know!!

keldsyke
09-02-2024, 08:29 PM
Nemane and Jones at fault again

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 08:30 PM
Wine Gums said he just needed to 'tweak' a few things. He certainly hasn't tweaked the defence very well. But then neither have the last four managers.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 08:30 PM
What happened to busting a gut to stop the cross, Jones and Nemane ****ing jogging to stop them getting a cross in, no one dealing with it in the area. ****ing tripe Notts.

The_Don_ORiordan
09-02-2024, 08:31 PM
Nemane and Jones at fault again

We had multiple defenders in the middle too. It’s not like either were world class crosses. They were garbage which gillinghsm defenders have attacked and cut out over and over again.

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 08:33 PM
We had multiple defenders in the middle too. It’s not like either were world class crosses. They were garbage which gillinghsm defenders have attacked and cut out over and over again.

Jones was jockeying the man who had the ball prior to it being rolled back to the crosser. Langstaff doubled up and went behind him and left the crosser in acres.

Woodypie
09-02-2024, 08:36 PM
This is rubbish. Tweak my arse.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 08:36 PM
HT pants so far, good goal from Dan the man and that's it.

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 08:37 PM
Stone is fg useless.He doesn't talk to the defence or organise.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 08:37 PM
Jones was jockeying the man who had the ball prior to it being rolled back to the crosser. Langstaff doubled up and went behind him and left the crosser in acres.

Yeah Langstaff was just faffing about whilst Jones pointed at the man crossing it, neither were much use.

The_Don_ORiordan
09-02-2024, 08:38 PM
Jones was jockeying the man who had the ball prior to it being rolled back to the crosser. Langstaff doubled up and went behind him and left the crosser in acres.

It’s a diagonal cross from 30 yards out. Meat and drink for a centre back. It wasn’t curled in at pace from Beckham bending around the back of the defence.

We’ve put at least 5 of the same crosses in. And their defenders have intercepted.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 08:40 PM
It all just feels abit underwhelming lately doesn't it.

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 08:40 PM
It’s a diagonal cross from 30 yards out. Meat and drink for a centre back. It wasn’t curled in at pace from Beckham bending around the back of the defence.

We’ve put at least 5 of the same crosses in. And their defenders have intercepted.

Well Hawkins is 6ft 5 and Langstaff is sub 6ft.

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 08:41 PM
It all just feels abit underwhelming lately doesn't it.

I thought we started really well. Great intensity and not dwelling on the ball. Then we scored.

Just annoying we have to score 3 at home to get a win.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 08:42 PM
Well Hawkins is 6ft 5 and Langstaff is sub 6ft.

Apparently that doesn’t count. Would explain why we have gone out and got (hopefully) a 6ft 4in striker

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 08:42 PM
Things are gonna go sour pretty quickly if we continue as we are, if they haven't already. Very little going forward yet again, typically defensively poor and the tempo is so negative.

the_anticlough
09-02-2024, 08:43 PM
Stone is fg useless.He doesn't talk to the defence or organise.

Won't argue with that.

Such a typical 45mins of football for us. I do feel that a defeat tonight will mean significant changes.
Possession without chances...
Such a high conceding rate for attacks faced

A win, or even a draw and SM can continue to evolve the side, but a defeat should lead to a shake-up

SmiffyPie
09-02-2024, 08:43 PM
How depressing is this? Does Nemane know that defending means getting close to stop the cross and not just jogging over and stopping 10 yards away?

The_Don_ORiordan
09-02-2024, 08:44 PM
Well Hawkins is 6ft 5 and Langstaff is sub 6ft.

Yeah it’s that simple langstaff never scores from crosses because height is all that matters…..

SmiffyPie
09-02-2024, 08:47 PM
Down to 8th now.

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 08:47 PM
Yeah it’s that simple langstaff never scores from crosses because height is all that matters…..

Are his headed goals when he's challenging the defender or when he's broken in between or behind his man...

An attacker with a height advantage on the defenders is more likely to win a header than an attacker with a significant disadvantage over the defender, no?

Hence if you haven't got that height advantage you should swing in low and whipped crosses to increase the chances?

MAD_MAGPIE
09-02-2024, 08:48 PM
Utterly pathetic defending. Why does no one try to get to any of these crosses?!?!

We need to try and a top the crosses coming in and across the box first and foremost. Sometime we just seem to give teams too much time and space to whip one in.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 08:48 PM
I thought we started really well. Great intensity and not dwelling on the ball. Then we scored.

Just annoying we have to score 3 at home to get a win.

Ha ha yeah we did start well up until the goal and then as you say went downhill after that. Let's hope they come out ready to go this half.

ajojones
09-02-2024, 08:49 PM
Anyone missing Williams yet? What he did with this buch of players is motivate. They all seem disinterested and downhearted. New man needs to snap them out of it and drop a few needing thing time.

ajojones
09-02-2024, 08:50 PM
Anyone missing Williams yet? What he did with this buch of players is motivate. They all seem disinterested and downhearted. New man needs to snap them out of it and drop a few needing thing time.

*thinking time, I need typing time.

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 08:50 PM
Meadow Lane becomes only the 2nd ground this season on which Gillingham have scored more than one goal.
Only the 5th time this season they've scored more than once home or away.

MAD_MAGPIE
09-02-2024, 08:52 PM
We need a response in the second half. Let’s see some of that intensity, hunger and desire. We don’t want to be slipping out of the playoffs.

Especially taking the lead as well and falling behind has left things feeling a bit flat.

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 08:53 PM
How depressing is this? Does Nemane know that defending means getting close to stop the cross and not just jogging over and stopping 10 yards away?
Depressing is a bit dramatic. I'm more annoyed than anything. We've mainly looked like the better side and Gills have just 'League Two-d' us.
No possession, 2 shots, defending well, simple play. Bam, 2 -1 up.
It's annoying after we play well and do some good work that we let these teams get away with it. We aren't ready to go up yet. We still need to work out L2.

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 08:53 PM
We need a response in the second half. Let’s see some of that intensity, hunger and desire. We don’t want to be slipping out of the playoffs.

Especially taking the lead as well and falling behind has left things feeling a bit flat.

Prediction 2-2 but we get a straight red.

keldsyke
09-02-2024, 08:55 PM
Can’t get tonight so watching on Iplayer, anyone else hear the comments about Morias? Seems his fitness is worse than we thought, he’s been put on the bench at Walsall I think with no intention of playing him because he wasn’t fit just to fill the bench. Why not give one of the youngsters the experience of being around the first team?

keldsyke
09-02-2024, 08:57 PM
Ha ha yeah we did start well up until the goal and then as you say went downhill after that. Let's hope they come out ready to go this half.

Yeah but I bet the possession stat looks great regardless of the score and defending, that’s all that matters.

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 08:59 PM
Thats some of the most atrocious defending and goalkeeping I've ever seen.

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 09:00 PM
Smiffy...1 3 down...now its depressing!!!

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:00 PM
That was one of the worst goals I've ever seen conceded, absolute crap. A ****ing joke, disgusting. There's no fight or desire in this team, just lazy, vacant ****ers.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:01 PM
So many ****houses.
Before the corner 2 players **** out of tackles.
The corner… Stone FFS.
Then no attacks the fcuk up.

SmiffyPie
09-02-2024, 09:01 PM
Jesus Christ. Stone is crap!

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 09:01 PM
Wow, Stone. Almost flinching at the ball.

Did Robertson shirk the tackle with Williams before that though?

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 09:02 PM
1. Why have they got a free header from a corner?

2. Why does stone refuse to catch the ball?

3. Why do stone and Baldwin decide to leave the ball for eachother in our own 6 yard box like it's some sort of radioactive substance?

The fact we've not only conceded 3 to a team as ****e as Gillingham, but also decided to be completely outplayed by them on our own patch is a disgrace.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:02 PM
Stone is ****ing terrible as well, absolute ****. He doesn't do anything. I'm so mad at this performance, they are complete jokers. Disgusting.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:02 PM
Wow, Stone. Almost flinching at the ball.

Did Robertson shirk the tackle with Williams before that though?

Yep. They're gutless.

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 09:04 PM
Got to feel sorry for Maynard though. The defence he's inherited from LW is nothing short of horrendous. Can't be expecting miracles of him because that's what we need.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:04 PM
**** ref again letting them time waste.

OP67
09-02-2024, 09:04 PM
I hope Maynard left BT Openreach on good terms as he may be needing his job back soon!!!!

MAD_MAGPIE
09-02-2024, 09:04 PM
Stone should be commanding his area for that third goal and coming to claim it in my opinion. Confidence has drained completely and it’s turned sour this half.

Gillingham completely showing the game down now and time wasting.

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:05 PM
Lowest scorers in the league remember, averaging less than a goal per game before tonight.

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 09:05 PM
Stone is ****ing terrible as well, absolute ****. He doesn't do anything. I'm so mad at this performance, they are complete jokers. Disgusting.

Basically hung the new manager out to dry so they can continue to be lazy and sulk about LW leaving. Massive clear out needed in the summer.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:06 PM
Got to feel sorry for Maynard though. The defence he's inherited from LW is nothing short of horrendous. Can't be expecting miracles of him because that's what we need.

I worry they aren't going to listen to him. This is just my worry though, no real evidence. We have nothing in the way of subs either really.

Bunks5
09-02-2024, 09:06 PM
71% Possession - 442 Passes and no plan B. Its utter tripe!!!

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 09:07 PM
I'm not judging Maynard yet, I think that's unfair, but I reckon that after Luke went these players needed a real shake up instead if carrying on to 'play in the same way'.
I'm thinking Warnock might have been the better choice. He's more L2.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:07 PM
Why have we not made any changes

keldsyke
09-02-2024, 09:09 PM
Why have we not made any changes

Well if you see my previous comment they’ve been putting Morias on the bench with no
Intention of playing him as he isn’t fit.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:11 PM
Who we going to bring on, only Austin really who might make a difference up front.

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 09:11 PM
I'm not judging Maynard yet, I think that's unfair, but I reckon that after Luke went these players needed a real shake up instead if carrying on to 'play in the same way'.
I'm thinking Warnock might have been the better choice. He's more L2.

Theres' no way the bros' wpould have appointed Warnock because he doesn't play the way they want.

He would have certainly sorted this crap out.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:12 PM
Just seen the 3rd goal again. Kyle Camerons man won the header at the back post after running 15 yards plus… Cameron no where near him.

Bunks5
09-02-2024, 09:12 PM
Also, these players should be good enough to compete (they are a joke) - to be fair who’d want to come on after witnessing 65 mins of this sh*te!

legs77
09-02-2024, 09:13 PM
Got to feel sorry for Maynard though. The defence he's inherited from LW is nothing short of horrendous. Can't be expecting miracles of him because that's what we need.

You mean left by the recruitment team important to remember that.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:13 PM
Who we going to bring on, only Austin really who might make a difference up front.

It’s not always about making a difference. Sometimes it’s bringing someone off to prove a point. I’d bring Rawlo on to mark the big lad. He’s our only genuine CB

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 09:15 PM
Some of these players are National Lge standard.Not fit for Lge.2.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:17 PM
It’s not always about making a difference. Sometimes it’s bringing someone off to prove a point. I’d bring Rawlo on to mark the big lad. He’s our only genuine CB

Most it them need substituting to make a point tonight ha ha. If we can get one back though soon you never know.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:18 PM
The refs are so bad in this league, I can't cope with them. The linesman might as well be wheelie bins for as much as they get involved

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 09:19 PM
You mean left by the recruitment team important to remember that.

Partially correct. I find it hard to believe that LW had nothing to do with giving the likes of Rawlinson, Cameron and Brindley new contracts. Players who are nowhere near good enough for the step up yet we've given 2 year deals to, much which could've been much better spent on far superior players.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:27 PM
Can’t wait until there is 3/4 minutes injury time. Should be 10

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 09:28 PM
Can’t wait until there is 3/4 minutes injury time. Should be 10

We could have 100 I doubt we'd get 1 goal playing like this.

Woodypie
09-02-2024, 09:30 PM
Is it ok to boo yet?

legs77
09-02-2024, 09:30 PM
Its dreadful stuff we arent moving the ball quick enough

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:33 PM
Its dreadful stuff we arent moving the ball quick enough

This 100% Gillingham have sat back since the third but we play at walking pace, we're not moving them out of position cause we don't play it quick enough.

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:33 PM
Stall: Notts fans must be thinking "Wouldn't it be nice if Notts had a physical presence in an attacking area"

ForeignLegion
09-02-2024, 09:34 PM
Is it ok to boo yet?


Yep, loud one incoming from Brisbane.

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 09:34 PM
Even allowing for our defense Notts were generally beating teams like this at ML earlier in the seaon.

There has been absolutely no response from Notts since we went 3-1 down.

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:35 PM
Stall: Gillingham doing what Mansfield did last week, showing that bit of experience and know how.

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 09:36 PM
Should be at least 4, and we still haven't even had a meaningful chance. If we were any earlier in the season we'd be looking at relegation with how our performances are going and how little the players are applying themselves.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:36 PM
That would have been embarrassing

Bunks5
09-02-2024, 09:37 PM
631 passes now - what was that definition of madness quote again?

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:37 PM
Stall on the defending: It's been appalling, really has been appalling

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:37 PM
Should be at least 4, and we still haven't even had a meaningful chance. If we were any earlier in the season we'd be looking at relegation with how our performances are going and how little the players are applying themselves.

I don’t think it’s a lack of application. This group is OK playing keep ball. However, what they don’t have is any semblance of physicality

spacemunky
09-02-2024, 09:38 PM
Terrific defending from our goalposts.

legs77
09-02-2024, 09:38 PM
This is why LW did such a good job we played much quicker.

Cant write SM off yet though.

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:38 PM
Stall: We look a dejected outfit. First time we can say that in a long long time.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:39 PM
Terrific defending from our goalposts.

Like button.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:40 PM
Sums up our defending, Gillingham throw into the area, allowed to bounce, Gillingham player allowed to outmuscle our defender, turn and shoot. Please ref put us out of our misery.

legs77
09-02-2024, 09:41 PM
Stone for one has to be dropped next week...take it from there !

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 09:42 PM
I'll say it again. I really think we missed a trick with the Warnock thing.
The more we play like this and lose...the more bums will be OFF seats.
The brothers need to realise that this is a very different league.

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:42 PM
FT

1-3

https://www.britishclassiccomedy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Bill-Maynard-The-Gaffer-Unfit-As-A-Fiddle-S2E6-1982.png

legs77
09-02-2024, 09:43 PM
I'll say it again. I really think we missed a trick with the Warnock thing.
The more we play like this and lose...the more bums will be OFF seats.
The brothers need to realise that this is a very different league.

Was Warnock even a serious option though ?

Big Bob
09-02-2024, 09:44 PM
Come on Reedz brothers. Sort the team out. Abysmal

Old_pie
09-02-2024, 09:45 PM
I don’t think it’s a lack of application. This group is OK playing keep ball. However, what they don’t have is any semblance of physicality

It occured to me half way through the second half whether this "keep ball" is our downfall. Opposition have to be on their toes all the time and so keep up their concentration. We got the ball, pass, pass, pass not necessarily going anywhere or too elaborate and then all of a sudden find the mindset has to change. Would work if we had more end product that seems to have dried up.

Just waiting for that final whistle then I can switch off (Radio Nottingham). Thought today was the opportunity to move forward, now starting to look down the table and seeing how safe we may or may not be.

Some players need a reality lesson and dropping.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:45 PM
So many players have gone off the boil. This is always the problem with the only way we can play… when it doesn’t work it looks ****.
We have little creative output from anyone other than JJ. We don’t have a creative CM.

Bunks5
09-02-2024, 09:45 PM
It’s ok as we can take the positives out of the game, think we started strong and controlled the game for the first 10 minutes. We stuck to our game plan and as manager Stuart Maynard will take full responsibility…blah blah blah!!

BanjoPie
09-02-2024, 09:45 PM
No positives there!! - Changes need to be made !

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 09:46 PM
Was Warnock even a serious option though ?
Yeah. He said he was available to do the job until the end of the season.
You need somebody tough when you've just list the best manager we've gad in years that the players all loved. Somebody with experience over all leagues.

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:48 PM
Now just 1 point better off than Thordarsson was at this stage of the season, 2 more points than Thompson (who would beat Lincoln in the next game).

legs77
09-02-2024, 09:49 PM
Yeah. He said he was available to do the job until the end of the season.
You need somebody tough when you've just list the best manager we've gad in years that the players all loved. Somebody with experience over all leagues.

Where did he say this ?

I just heard Mace mention it and he then appeared in the odds.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 09:49 PM
I haven’t felt as low as this since losing to Harrogate at Wembley. How can a team that has the ball for 70% every game look so fragile? It’s mind boggling. It’s not just the defenders. The midfield is weak out of possession.

Big Bob
09-02-2024, 09:51 PM
Maynard is the new Fullerton

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 09:51 PM
If there was one team who were going to 'blow up' in the top 7/8 it had to be Notts.

Maynard is 'too nice' and to be frank clueless. A very odd appointment IMO with no league experienceThe players look as though they don't want to play for him

With the defence as it is we are going to lose plenty more games and,well,the goalkeeping situation is chronic.Get the other lad back off loan(can't remeber his name).

They are dropping like a stone and I don't know where the next win is coming from.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 09:51 PM
At least we'll be able to have our own Notts County Comical Defending Dvd out at the end of the season which may bring in some revenue. Atrocious tonight. Boring, dispassionate and weak. Night all.

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 09:52 PM
maynard is the new fullerton

Yes ! XD

VerybigpieLittlepie
09-02-2024, 09:53 PM
Stone worst gk in notts history, if it’s on target and not straight at him it’s a goal, and defenders must have forgot the tweets what a waste of time playoffs looking extremely unlikely now

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:55 PM
Maynard is the new Fullerton

Fullarton won 2 of his first 3.
Maynard now has the 2nd worst start as Notts manager this century, only Ince had 0 points from his first 3 in charge but he won game 4.

the_anticlough
09-02-2024, 09:55 PM
Abject.
But what to do?
Thank god we're nowhere near 23rd/24th places.

If SM wants to keep this system, he has to try it with different personnel...For me, at Newport, Stone, Nemane, Didzy, out, maybe more, and time to change the captain

MapperleyMagpie
09-02-2024, 09:55 PM
If anyone comes on tonight and tried to defend that garbage!! I swear ! Poor from the manager and front to back in the team. No heart, no soul, no desire, no clue utterly disgusted

MancMagpie
09-02-2024, 09:56 PM
Where did he say this ?

I just heard Mace mention it and he then appeared in the odds.
Maybe it was just heresay, I also heard it from Mace, but there were also a few articles flying around at the time that said he was interested.
Anyway, it doesn't matter now.

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 09:58 PM
Maybe it was just heresay, I also heard it from Mace, but there were also a few articles flying around at the time that said he was interested.
Anyway, it doesn't matter now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqrwhzrWoAAP0o6.jpg

Woodypie
09-02-2024, 09:59 PM
Look, l will say it, Maynard is not up to the job.

MapperleyMagpie
09-02-2024, 09:59 PM
When I came on here and said Warnock I was shouted down ! Any of those people want to come back at me and defend our position now?

MAD_MAGPIE
09-02-2024, 09:59 PM
That performance has left me feeling really angry and frustrated and no doubt many other fans will feel the same. That third goal was the worst of the threel. Simply awful terrible defending. After that the whole performance was slow, static, weak.

It’s left a feeling of shell shock as to how poor we looked. Devoid of energy, passing sideways and across and moving at walking pace.

We’ve surrendered a playoff place without a fight or any intensity and that’s what hurt. In front of 10,000 fans as well.

I don’t apportion the slump to Stuart Maynard. The defensive problems have been there since the first game of the season away against Sutton. But now we’ve lost that spark in terms of excitement and creativity in the final third. The opposition keeper again had nothing to do in the second half apart from one near post save and yet managed to waste time and time again taking goal kicks.

We were done by a league two team seizing their moments and their box of frustrating time wasting tricks.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 10:00 PM
Abject.
But what to do?
Thank god we're nowhere near 23rd/24th places.

If SM wants to keep this system, he has to try it with different personnel...For me, at Newport, Stone, Nemane, Didzy, out, maybe more, and time to change the captain

Had to sign back on to quickly agree ha ha. Changes needed especially with regards to Cameron. Never captain material in a million years, never seen him get the team going, sort players out, be a presence and his defending is often lacking. Rather it be Bostock, Baldwin or maybe Didzy but even those choices don't inspire me. We've just become so weak and beatable. I think Robertson is getting better but can't do it all. Nemane, Jones, Crowley and Bostock offer no protection to an already crap and unconfident defence. As AC says at least we won't go down but next season can't come soon enough for me.

crazyfists
09-02-2024, 10:02 PM
There's only one man can save us now, come on Jatta ha ha!

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 10:02 PM
Maynard: "Some of the defending in our box was really poor, we all know it. Knew it was something we had to work on.... and that's collectively. Players are hurting, they know it's not good enough."

Eastcoastultra1977
09-02-2024, 10:04 PM
When I came on here and said Warnock I was shouted down ! Any of those people want to come back at me and defend our position now?

Fair comment, but the brothers would never had touched Warnock 'cos of the way he plays. They want to play carpet football.His teams play like league 2 teams and grind out wins.

MapperleyMagpie
09-02-2024, 10:07 PM
Fair comment, but the brothers would never had touched Warnock 'cos of the way he plays. His teams play like league 2 teams and grind out wins.

That's exactly what we need. The brothers need to think, the definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing even when it doesn't work. They have done wonders for our club but this year the recruitment has been very poor, current manager appointment baffling and insistence on the system ! Is costing us dearly.

hissingdwarf
09-02-2024, 10:08 PM
Let’s remember that Maynard is the choice of the brothers. And they in turn dictate the way we play. I’m pretty sure if we went to 442 lump it forward…they wouldn’t tolerate it.
So yes, at this minute in time, Maynard looks out of his depth. Looks like another Fullerton appointment.

If we had appointed a more tactically aware, hard nosed manager, who had experience of this league and how to get out of it…well it wouldn’t have happened as they wouldn’t have appointed him in the first place.

Could'vebeenacontender
09-02-2024, 10:08 PM
This isn't the new management's fault
We had the same failings in the last few weeks under LW
There is zero hunting in packs and no one attacks the ball when the opposition is coming forward
Teams have worked us out, sit back and wait to break on us
Then we let them play in front and around us with little or no determination to get the ball back or make aggressive challenges
We've become complacent and need shaking up

OldBanksy
09-02-2024, 10:08 PM
Better performers:
Jones
Jones
Jones
Worst performers
Nemane
McGoldrick
Warner

BanjoPie
09-02-2024, 10:08 PM
When I came on here and said Warnock I was shouted down ! Any of those people want to come back at me and defend our position now?

Yes - would have been a backward move beyond any doubt

Bunks5
09-02-2024, 10:09 PM
It’s ok as we can take the positives out of the game, think we started strong and controlled the game for the first 10 minutes. We stuck to our game plan and as manager Stuart Maynard will take full responsibility…blah blah blah!!

Bug*er I forgot ‘The players are hurting’….in my after the match quote bingo.

VerybigpieLittlepie
09-02-2024, 10:09 PM
Winning games has to be priority, when it’s not then no matter how well a team plays it will get nowhere and that’s what we are seeing now

the_anticlough
09-02-2024, 10:10 PM
Better performers:
Jones
Jones
Jones
Worst performers
Nemane
McGoldrick
Warner

Correct. Can we add Stone to the 2nd list?

upthemaggies
09-02-2024, 10:10 PM
PPG projection table now has us finishing 10th


Max - PPG - Projected pts

1. Stockport Co - 109 __ 2.00 __ 92
2. Mansfield T. - 105 __ 1.86 __ 86
3. Wrexham - 106 __ 1.86 __ 85
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Barrow - 101 __ 1.77 __ 81
5. Crewe Alex. - 99 __ 1.70 __ 78
6. Milton Keynes - 99 __ 1.66 __ 76
7. Gillingham - 94 __ 1.53 __ 71
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
8. Harrogate T. - 95 __ 1.52 __ 70
9. Wimbledon - 94 __ 1.48 __ 68
10. Notts County - 92 __ 1.47 __ 67

Bunks5
09-02-2024, 10:11 PM
Maynard: "Some of the defending in our box was really poor, we all know it. Knew it was something we had to work on.... and that's collectively. Players are hurting, they know it's not good enough."

I bet they are not knackered though.

Could'vebeenacontender
09-02-2024, 10:13 PM
This isn't the new management's fault
We had the same failings in the last few weeks under LW
There is zero hunting in packs and no one attacks the ball when the opposition is coming forward
Teams have worked us out, sit back and wait to break on us
Then we let them play in front and around us with little or no determination to get the ball back or make aggressive challenges
We've become complacent and need shaking up

We also need a keeper who isn't terrified of getting hurt when challenging for the ball

irish_pie
09-02-2024, 10:17 PM
Well the bubble has well and truly burst now, we are dropping like a stone since Christmas with no sign we can do much about it, its not rocket science...we have known for a long time that our defence is appalling and the midfielders are not giving them any help, for a first season back at this level it's still a decent league position but I suppose its the hope that kills ya, I haven't given up that we might mount a charge soon but with this team it's not looking likely, onwards and upwards as they say ��

Pietastic
09-02-2024, 10:20 PM
Surely not all is lost! We utterly battered by Mansfield at home a few weeks ago and the improvement was decent last week (albeit still a ****e result I appreciate). Let's have a bit of faith....

KintoreMagpie
09-02-2024, 10:21 PM
PPG projection table now has us finishing 10th


Max - PPG - Projected pts

1. Stockport Co - 109 __ 2.00 __ 92
2. Mansfield T. - 105 __ 1.86 __ 86
3. Wrexham - 106 __ 1.86 __ 85
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Barrow - 101 __ 1.77 __ 81
5. Crewe Alex. - 99 __ 1.70 __ 78
6. Milton Keynes - 99 __ 1.66 __ 76
7. Gillingham - 94 __ 1.53 __ 71
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
8. Harrogate T. - 95 __ 1.52 __ 70
9. Wimbledon - 94 __ 1.48 __ 68
10. Notts County - 92 __ 1.47 __ 67

Seeing that game tonight I would bite your hand off to have Notts finish 10th. I’m only glad we are so far ahead of the 23rd placed team as performances like tonight will result in us dropping down the table like a stone.

Interesting appointment up here with Warnock taking over at Aberdeen. Hopefully, he will bring a breath of fresh air and stand out amongst all the other somewhat dour Scottish premiership managers.

MapperleyMagpie
09-02-2024, 10:27 PM
Yes - would have been a backward move beyond any doubt

Because Maynard is a move forward? He would have gotten us out of this league

uysapie
09-02-2024, 10:28 PM
Everyone knew, from the start of the season, that the defence is crap but no better players were recruited. They cannot play 3 at the back. It's beyond a joke seeing Nemane trying to defend the far post at corners. Midfield is becoming almost non-existent and weak. Sideways and back passes account for most of our possession. Macca is getting no service, teams know that if you block our wingers, we have no Plan B.

Tonight was excrement after we scored and SM is out of his depth

MapperleyMagpie
09-02-2024, 10:30 PM
Everyone knew, from the start of the sason, that the defence is crap but no better players were recruited. They cannot play 3 at the back. It's beyond a joke seeing Nemane trying to defend the far post at corners. Midfield is becoming almost non-existent and weak. Sideways and back passes account for most of our possession. Macc is getting no service, teams know that if you block our wingers, we have no Plan B.

Tonight was excrement after we scored and SM is out of his depth

Spot in assessment, add in no hunger or desire. Most look knackered and probably are because if a very weak bench, we can't rest any.

BanjoPie
09-02-2024, 10:34 PM
Because Maynard is a move forward? He would have gotten us out of this league

Yes, but probably back to the NL

WarsopPie
09-02-2024, 10:34 PM
Seeing that game tonight I would bite your hand off to have Notts finish 10th. I’m only glad we are so far ahead of the 23rd placed team as performances like tonight will result in us dropping down the table like a stone.

Interesting appointment up here with Warnock taking over at Aberdeen. Hopefully, he will bring a breath of fresh air and stand out amongst all the other somewhat dour Scottish premiership managers.

Just walked in from work as couldn’t get the time off for tonight’s game does anyone know what the attendance was please?

matt_magpie
09-02-2024, 10:35 PM
I can’t blame the manager for that.
Not sure what’s happened to Bostock and Mcgoldrick the same, Nemane I don’t know where to start.
I’m very unsure about Robertson, just feel there’s a mistake in him. Warner I’m hoping is just finding his way and will come good and as for Stone, absolutely no command of his box on crosses.
I’m usually half full when it comes to Notts, but not tonight.

MapperleyMagpie
09-02-2024, 10:36 PM
Just walked in from work as couldn’t get the time off for tonight’s game does anyone know what the attendance was please?

Around 10,300 just over 900 Gillingham fans

WarsopPie
09-02-2024, 10:37 PM
Around 10,300 just over 900 Gillingham fans

Great thanks

MapperleyMagpie
09-02-2024, 10:38 PM
I've got in my 10,341 and 953 gills cut could be wrong

Chicken Balti Pie
09-02-2024, 10:42 PM
Apparently that doesn’t count. Would explain why we have gone out and got (hopefully) a 6ft 4in striker

Who apparently is rubbish in the air...

TSANHO
09-02-2024, 10:43 PM
Bugger

BanjoPie
09-02-2024, 10:43 PM
Only weeks ago most on here were drooling over the Notts style of play and how great were most of our players! - they don’t just suddenly become crap players, they lost their leader and it probably hit them hard and need the support of fans now more that ever but many of the comments on this thread and on the joke of a thread started by Kelsdyke just goes to show how many ‘so-called’ supporters are in fact not true Notts supporters at all. Shameful!!!

Chicken Balti Pie
09-02-2024, 10:48 PM
I can’t blame the manager for that.
Not sure what’s happened to Bostock and Mcgoldrick the same, Nemane I don’t know where to start.
I’m very unsure about Robertson, just feel there’s a mistake in him. Warner I’m hoping is just finding his way and will come good and as for Stone, absolutely no command of his box on crosses.
I’m usually half full when it comes to Notts, but not tonight.

McGoldrick is probably shattered, we literally play all of our forwards so can't rotate them.

Bostock needs an engine next to him like Palmer.

Warner has played very few professional matches so he will make mistakes.

Robertson is lacking match fitness but the flashes I've seen make me happy.

Stone needs dropping, ideally off at the bus station and telling him to just go anywhere but Meadow Lane. How bad must Ashby-Hammond be if he can't displace him? How long is Slocombe out for or can we recall Brookes?

BCnotts18
09-02-2024, 10:52 PM
McGoldrick is probably shattered, we literally play all of our forwards so can't rotate them.

Bostock needs an engine next to him like Palmer.

Warner has played very few professional matches so he will make mistakes.

Robertson is lacking match fitness but the flashes I've seen make me happy.

Stone needs dropping, ideally off at the bus station and telling him to just go anywhere but Meadow Lane. How bad must Ashby-Hammond be if he can't displace him? How long is Slocombe out for or can we recall Brookes?

I don't think Slocombe is injured, he was training with Ashby Hammond and Stone before the match and seemed fit to me.

matt_magpie
09-02-2024, 10:55 PM
McGoldrick is probably shattered, we literally play all of our forwards so can't rotate them.

Bostock needs an engine next to him like Palmer.

Warner has played very few professional matches so he will make mistakes.

Robertson is lacking match fitness but the flashes I've seen make me happy.

Stone needs dropping, ideally off at the bus station and telling him to just go anywhere but Meadow Lane. How bad must Ashby-Hammond be if he can't displace him? How long is Slocombe out for or can we recall Brookes?

Mcgoldrick should be ok playing a game a week, I think he’s trying too hard at times and you can’t do the impossible, but you’re right we do need rotation to at least gives us different options, hopefully Jattas that.
Bostock seems to be tripping over himself, I love him as a player but he’s never played that well since his injury.
There’s definitely flashes from Robertson and plenty of endeavour, lets hope he comes good.

WarsopPie
09-02-2024, 10:56 PM
I don't think Slocombe is injured, he was training with Ashby Hammond and Stone before the match and seemed fit to me.

Wonder which one of the senior pro’s has taken charge of the dressing room and running it as these players don’t want to play for this manager.

Chicken Balti Pie
09-02-2024, 10:58 PM
Wonder which one of the senior pro’s has taken charge of the dressing room and running it as these players don’t want to play for this manager.

Hopefully with any luck LW gets hammered next few games, gets the sack and maybe comes back. He has shown he can get a tune out of these players at least

jackal2
09-02-2024, 10:58 PM
This isn't the new management's fault
We had the same failings in the last few weeks under LW
There is zero hunting in packs and no one attacks the ball when the opposition is coming forward
Teams have worked us out, sit back and wait to break on us
Then we let them play in front and around us with little or no determination to get the ball back or make aggressive challenges
We've become complacent and need shaking up

That's about the size of it really.

First twenty minutes or so tonight we were fine, dominating play and and Crowley scored a great goal, but as soon as Gillingham got the ball and began to attack us, we were abysmal defensively.

Basically, we're a good team in possession, but as weak as p*ss out of possession, losing tackles and headers all over the pitch, lacking aggression, not closing down and absolutely dreadful at stopping crosses into the box, which was the biggest problem the season we got relegated. We're conceding goals due to these flaws, and that in turn knocks our confidence and diminishes our decision-making when we do have the ball.

The wing-backs, who were rarely exposed in the National League when we dominated most teams, are now getting exposed every week. The problem is they're not wing-backs, they're wingers, and Nemane in particular looks terrified when an opponent goes at him on the ground or in the air.

I suspect we're seeing the start of the end of the wing-back system because teams at this level have sussed us and are exploiting it to the max. We're going to need to bring proper full-backs into the team to shore up the defence - probably a 4-2-3-1 formation that still provides room for Nemane and Jones as attackers, but lessens their defensive workload.

matt_magpie
09-02-2024, 11:03 PM
Wonder which one of the senior pro’s has taken charge of the dressing room and running it as these players don’t want to play for this manager.

If that’s the case the players need to go not the manager.

Notts78
09-02-2024, 11:08 PM
Wonder which one of the senior pro’s has taken charge of the dressing room and running it as these players don’t want to play for this manager.

That’s just a bull **** comment.

The reality is this squad of players aren’t capable of battling. It’s not in their DNA. They are all clones and happy passing the ball around aimlessly for fun. You will never see any of our midfield or defenders smash in to a tackle… I hope you see the build up to the corner that led to the 3rd goal. Players bottling 70/30 in their favour… one was Robbo, bought in to be that player.

Elite_Pie
09-02-2024, 11:08 PM
Very disappointing and quite worrying. We played like a frightened team once they equalised, no passion, no belief, no confidence. They simply seemed to want it more than we did. Too early to put the blame on Maynard, but we need a win quickly.

BigFatPie
09-02-2024, 11:10 PM
Glad we won a few games at the start of the season because that was the performance of a team looking at relegation.

How have we gone through another transfer window and we’re still bringing on Jim O’Brien on as sub because we STILL don’t have anyone any better to bring off the bench. And that’s before we even mention Scott Robertson who after the first 20 was a load of nothing or Jaden Warner who unbelievably managed to make me wonder where Rawlinson has got to, absolutely abysmal performance. The goalkeeping has been a farce all season, and we’ve brought the one bloke who’s looked worse than either Stone or Slocombe to sit on the bench.

There’s no excuses from anyone associated with that, including the coach who has seemingly taken much of the joie de vivre out of our attack while doing nothing to improve our defence.

drillerpie
09-02-2024, 11:10 PM
That's about the size of it really.

First twenty minutes or so tonight we were fine, dominating play and and Crowley scored a great goal, but as soon as Gillingham got the ball and began to attack us, we were abysmal defensively.

Basically, we're a good team in possession, but as weak as p*ss out of possession, losing tackles and headers all over the pitch, lacking aggression, not closing down and absolutely dreadful at stopping crosses into the box, which was the biggest problem the season we got relegated. We're conceding goals due to these flaws, and that in turn knocks our confidence and diminishes our decision-making when we do have the ball.

The wing-backs, who were rarely exposed in the National League when we dominated most teams, are now getting exposed every week. The problem is they're not wing-backs, they're wingers, and Nemane in particular looks terrified when an opponent goes at him on the ground or in the air.

I suspect we're seeing the start of the end of the wing-back system because teams at this level have sussed us and are exploiting it to the max. We're going to need to bring proper full-backs into the team to shore up the defence - probably a 4-2-3-1 formation that still provides room for Nemane and Jones as attackers, but lessens their defensive workload.

I have to say that did cross my mind tonight. How much longer can the wing backs continue like this?

I think it was their first or second goal where they had the ball wide right, Nemane ambled over and it almost looked like he was hoping they would cross the ball before he got there so he wouldn't have to defend.

Then the cross deflects across to the opposite side of the area and their wide forward on the other side had got a four yard headstart on Jones.

This is not really a slight on those two because as you say they are only nominally wing backs - they are wingers and what was a calculated risk in the NL is proving to be a kamikaze tactic in L2.

Mark_Ross
09-02-2024, 11:11 PM
Very disappointing and quite worrying. We played like a frightened team once they equalised, no passion, no belief, no confidence. They simply seemed to want it more than we did. Too early to put the blame on Maynard, but we need a win quickly.

Well I hate to say I told you so... but I could not believe how optimistic posters were pre-match.

At least we have something to be positive about - probably got enough points to avoid relegation.

tommopie8
09-02-2024, 11:12 PM
If that’s the case the players need to go not the manager.

If you're building a car and only focus on how fast it goes and do the bare minimum on the brakes - you can't be surprised when you inevitably crash.

I think we're basically witnessing 3 years of neglecting the art of defending in favour of the attacking.

We blew away the lesser teams last season and struggled to replicate this against better teams.

A well worked set-piece routine and a Langstaff wonder goal off a long ball got us the victories against better opposition.

I don't think we've had a game this season where we've been in control for 90 minutes. The whole objective of possession is control and limiting opposition chances but it's utterly pointless if the defensive basics aren't carried out against the weakest offensive opponents as proven time and again this season.

jackal2
09-02-2024, 11:15 PM
I think it was their first or second goal where they had the ball wide right, Nemane ambled over and it almost looked like he was hoping they would cross the ball before he got there so he wouldn't have to defend.


That's exactly what he does. I call it 'pretend' defending or shadow play where a player notionally takes up a defensive position but shows no desire whatsoever to actually affect the opponent, basically either standing so far off as to be no obstruction at all, or running alongside the opponent without ever trying to tackle. We saw it a lot in the relegation season, even from orthodox defenders. At least Aaron has the excuse that he's not a natural defender, but it can't go on.

matt_magpie
09-02-2024, 11:16 PM
If you're building a car and only focus on how fast it goes and do the bare minimum on the brakes - you can't be surprised when you inevitably crash.

I think we're basically witnessing 3 years of neglecting the art of defending in favour of the attacking.

We blew away the lesser teams last season and struggled to replicate this against better teams.

A well worked set-piece routine and a Langstaff wonder goal off a long ball got us the victories against better opposition.

I don't think we've had a game this season where we've been in control for 90 minutes. The whole objective of possession is control and limiting opposition chances but it's utterly pointless if the defensive basics aren't carried out against the weakest offensive opponents as proven time and again this season.

Agree to a certain extent and what’s more scary for me is now I’m realising how dependent we were on Palmer.

durhampie
09-02-2024, 11:18 PM
Nemane should be nowhere near that football pitch, ive been on about him since last season, and we are still playing him ffs.
The same goes to Bostock.. We have missed the boat this season, all we have done is to sign a load of crocks and a player who is 6ft4 and can't head the ball.And we may not get to see him until March.
The recruitment team have got this lot so wrong..

Davy500
09-02-2024, 11:40 PM
That performance has left me feeling really angry and frustrated and no doubt many other fans will feel the same. That third goal was the worst of the threel. Simply awful terrible defending. After that the whole performance was slow, static, weak.

It’s left a feeling of shell shock as to how poor we looked. Devoid of energy, passing sideways and across and moving at walking pace.

We’ve surrendered a playoff place without a fight or any intensity and that’s what hurt. In front of 10,000 fans as well.

I don’t apportion the slump to Stuart Maynard. The defensive problems have been there since the first game of the season away against Sutton. But now we’ve lost that spark in terms of excitement and creativity in the final third. The opposition keeper again had nothing to do in the second half apart from one near post save and yet managed to waste time and time again taking goal kicks.

We were done by a league two team seizing their moments and their box of frustrating time wasting tricks.

Yes it was a highly disappointing performance, especially with being at home and scoring first
It seems the recruitment over the summer was poor, we all knew the defense and midfield were a big problem, in the NL most teams were poor when put under pressure. Even then we struggled against the few better sides in the NL , and in the play offs, without individual brilliance of our best 3 or 4 players we would still be in the NL
As as far as this season is concerned, i expected mid table to be honest, after a false position early on, i knew it was a farce the dream of automatic promotion ended when we failed to beat Wrexham and mansfield, after that under LW we lost 6 out of 9, then SM took over and the downtrend continues
Luckily for us the bottom 2 are way behind, so somehow we have to just turn the corner and start picking up points again. But the recruitment staff, or owners etc have got a lot to think about next season, in the players we must let go, and the ones to bring in to make a series promotion challenge - i still think patience is required as it may take 3 or more years, in know its hard when it seems we have been rolled over to easily on our own pitch - but chins up

Davy500
09-02-2024, 11:44 PM
Just for a bit of fun out of the team tonight who do you think is L2 level or above , and who do you think is really NL level ?

Observerpie
09-02-2024, 11:48 PM
Nemane should be nowhere near that football pitch, ive been on about him since last season, and we are still playing him ffs.
The same goes to Bostock.. We have missed the boat this season, all we have done is to sign a load of crocks and a player who is 6ft4 and can't head the ball.And we may not get to see him until March.
The recruitment team have got this lot so wrong..

This

The Dug Out
10-02-2024, 12:13 AM
Watching Maynard tonight I saw 2 sides of him, we went a goal up & he was bouncing with glee, at 1-1 he kicked a water bottle,when we went 2-1 down he lost his cool,stalking around the tech area like a wounded pigeon in market square.
All in all I don't think he showed the ability to handle it, he seemed a little weak under the pressure of managing a club like ours. I just don't think he has what it takes to command. What I do hope is that this downward spiral is stopped otherwise we are in trouble, hate to say it but this is shades of Fullerton.

maddogslater
10-02-2024, 12:13 AM
Only weeks ago most on here were drooling over the Notts style of play and how great were most of our players! - they don’t just suddenly become crap players, they lost their leader and it probably hit them hard and need the support of fans now more that ever but many of the comments on this thread and on the joke of a thread started by Kelsdyke just goes to show how many ‘so-called’ supporters are in fact not true Notts supporters at all. Shameful!!!

Well said banjo, half these *****s didn't go down tonight but are happy to stick the boot in when the chips are down, one thing I would not level at the players is lack of effort or not playing for Maynard, though we all know goalkeeper has not been addressed by the radar.

MapperleyMagpie
10-02-2024, 12:25 AM
Well said banjo, half these *****s didn't go down tonight but are happy to stick the boot in when the chips are down, one thing I would not level at the players is lack of effort or not playing for Maynard, though we all know goalkeeper has not been addressed by the radar.

I was down tonight and like many in here have supported the team for years. Just because you don't like it want to hear what we say doesn't mean we are wrong!!

maddogslater
10-02-2024, 12:32 AM
I was down tonight and like many in here have supported the team for years. Just because you don't like it want to hear what we say doesn't mean we are wrong!!
To be generous to you I'll assume you're just a ball game supporter like durhampie.

jackal2
10-02-2024, 12:35 AM
Watching Maynard tonight I saw 2 sides of him, we went a goal up & he was bouncing with glee, at 1-1 he kicked a water bottle,when we went 2-1 down he lost his cool,stalking around the tech area like a wounded pigeon in market square.
All in all I don't think he showed the ability to handle it, he seemed a little weak under the pressure of managing a club like ours. I just don't think he has what it takes to command. What I do hope is that this downward spiral is stopped otherwise we are in trouble, hate to say it but this is shades of Fullerton.

Nah, Fullarton spoke in management psychobabble and was appointed in a very different time and situation.

I was very interested to hear Maynard's post-match interview tonight, and whether he'd seen the same game as most of us, because Luke Williams' assessments were always candid, whereas some managers of years gone by appeared to be in denial, trying to convince us we had "battered" opponents and been unlucky when we clearly hadn't. It's said you learn far more from a defeat than a victory, but that's only true if you're honest with yourself about what happened.

I'm pleased to say Maynard's assessment seemed spot on: good start and goal, but then three poor goals and a collective defensive failure even in the face of only limited pressure, which he acknowledged has been a feature of the season. He acknowledged that a change in formation wasn't out of the question - indeed they tried it in the latter stages of the game, and admitted there would need to be a lot of hard work on the training pitch, which there will, but his interview was candid and accurate, not deluded.

It would be ridiculous to judge a manager's capabilities or impact on the team - good or bad - in three games, but tonight's defensive efforts will certainly have helped him see what needs putting right.

Davy500
10-02-2024, 12:47 AM
Watching Maynard tonight I saw 2 sides of him, we went a goal up & he was bouncing with glee, at 1-1 he kicked a water bottle,when we went 2-1 down he lost his cool,stalking around the tech area like a wounded pigeon in market square.
All in all I don't think he showed the ability to handle it, he seemed a little weak under the pressure of managing a club like ours. I just don't think he has what it takes to command. What I do hope is that this downward spiral is stopped otherwise we are in trouble, hate to say it but this is shades of Fullerton.

I think it to early to say about SM,s ability. See the thing is we were already on a downward spiral when he arrived, so its hard to say he is to blame.
Most managers can come into a team that is set up well and that is winning and do well, but its whether managers can come into a team that is doing poorly and turn it around -thats what seperates the men from the boys
As for being in trouble we are 22 points ahead of relegation, so it would be some collapse for us to end up in trouble this season . and for SM to be similar to Fullarton he would have to be really poor , or maybe just lacking experience
We all knew that a rough patch would come sooner or later, its how Notts County deal with it that will determine our immediate and longeer term future

Woodypie
10-02-2024, 01:23 AM
Tippy tappy, slippy sloppy. It worked in non-league, doesn't in League 2. Why do we have to persist in this abysmal mantra. Sod Pep, let's go Jürgen heavy metal football. 70 percent possession, 3-1 loss. Time to wake up.

jackal2
10-02-2024, 01:35 AM
Tippy tappy, slippy sloppy. It worked in non-league, doesn't in League 2. Why do we have to persist in this abysmal mantra. Sod Pep, let's go Jürgen heavy metal football. 70 percent possession, 3-1 loss. Time to wake up.

Do both!

Keeping the ball is generally a good policy because you control the game that way, but when we do lose possession, absolutely go 'heavy metal' in trying to win it back, and don't be timid about "leaving one" on the opponent in the process.

Without doubt, the football we played in possession under Luke Williams was the most entertaining and attractive I've seen from Notts in 30 years, but having been brought up on the success of Warnock and Allardyce I certainly don't like seeing Notts teams being "nice" or "soft" out of possession, and recently we have been. When we haven't got the ball we look like a pretty weak bunch, and that grates!

We need to continue making it difficult for opponents to get the ball off us, but when they do, we need to make them wish they hadn't!

I liked the great Manchester Utd team under Sir Alex: the likes Beckham, Scholes, Ronaldo and Giggs weaving magic in possession, and the likes of Keane and Stam/Vidic kicking the sh*t out of anyone who the temerity to interrupt!

Notts78
10-02-2024, 05:32 AM
Nah, Fullarton spoke in management psychobabble and was appointed in a very different time and situation.

I was very interested to hear Maynard's post-match interview tonight, and whether he'd seen the same game as most of us, because Luke Williams' assessments were always candid, whereas some managers of years gone by appeared to be in denial, trying to convince us we had "battered" opponents and been unlucky when we clearly hadn't. It's said you learn far more from a defeat than a victory, but that's only true if you're honest with yourself about what happened.

I'm pleased to say Maynard's assessment seemed spot on: good start and goal, but then three poor goals and a collective defensive failure even in the face of only limited pressure, which he acknowledged has been a feature of the season. He acknowledged that a change in formation wasn't out of the question - indeed they tried it in the latter stages of the game, and admitted there would need to be a lot of hard work on the training pitch, which there will, but his interview was candid and accurate, not deluded.

It would be ridiculous to judge a manager's capabilities or impact on the team - good or bad - in three games, but tonight's defensive efforts will certainly have helped him see what needs putting right.

He isn’t gonna get much time on the training pitch this week. 2 games against very tough opposition, both of which are very strong at home whilst we have been ****e away. Any points from the next 2 games will be a bonus. The problem is, can this squad do that or are we staring at our 3rd and 4th losses in a row?
SM needs to do something different or Notts fans will quickly lose patience with him. We have seldom looked like scoring in 3 games. Our best players are looking average. Our worst players look piss poor.

PedroTheFisherman66
10-02-2024, 05:33 AM
When I came on here and said Warnock I was shouted down ! Any of those people want to come back at me and defend our position now?

Warnock lost his 1st game in charge up in jock land you know.just saying.

i961pie
10-02-2024, 05:34 AM
How long has been been in charge?

PedroTheFisherman66
10-02-2024, 05:49 AM
How long has been been in charge?

8 days ,23 hrs'17 minutes and 24 seconds.

Piessince67
10-02-2024, 05:52 AM
Can SM make the tough decisions needed.If he doesnt then the fans will turn quickly .Stone and Cameron must be dropped and the latter is a tough decision.

meoldlaner
10-02-2024, 06:39 AM
We have a habit of showing our good side and bad side during every game. We started off very good but once a team gets the upper hand we look panic stricken.
What was highlighted was our lack of physicality in terms of size of player. As much as I didn't like Gills tactics it was something we don't have in our locker.
The biggest issue in my opinion is that we are playing wing backs that aren't wing backs, they are out and out wingers and are exposed defensively.
It's too early to judge SM he's only been in the house a short while but I think he has what it takes, I hope so.

matt_magpie
10-02-2024, 07:54 AM
Let’s be right about Maynard we have absolutely no clue if he’s good enough to kick us on and a great leader.
What we do know is he can set up a team to play expansively and well, I saw it with my own eyes with Wealdstone. He also seems a nice guy, Baldwin says he is a very likeable guy pre match.
So with at least those 2 things a professional footballer should have the minerals to at least play reasonable well and consistently.

matt_magpie
10-02-2024, 08:11 AM
That's exactly what he does. I call it 'pretend' defending or shadow play where a player notionally takes up a defensive position but shows no desire whatsoever to actually affect the opponent, basically either standing so far off as to be no obstruction at all, or running alongside the opponent without ever trying to tackle. We saw it a lot in the relegation season, even from orthodox defenders. At least Aaron has the excuse that he's not a natural defender, but it can't go on.

I was screaming at him to get over. I know he’s not a defender but just get tight, if as a result he goes past him at least he has the pace to recover and try and put him off worse case.
Defending crosses seems a lost art for many players now, you use to defend them like your life depended on it.

drillerpie
10-02-2024, 09:13 AM
I was screaming at him to get over. I know he’s not a defender but just get tight, if as a result he goes past him at least he has the pace to recover and try and put him off worse case.
Defending crosses seems a lost art for many players now, you use to defend them like your life depended on it.

I think it must be a modern day statistic based tactic. Probably someone has worked out that if you try and stop a cross you deflect the ball out for a corner, give a foul away and then have to face a high ball coming in after all the big lads have trundled up for the set piece.

It doesn't seem to be working very well for us though.

drillerpie
10-02-2024, 09:15 AM
That's exactly what he does. I call it 'pretend' defending or shadow play where a player notionally takes up a defensive position but shows no desire whatsoever to actually affect the opponent, basically either standing so far off as to be no obstruction at all, or running alongside the opponent without ever trying to tackle. We saw it a lot in the relegation season, even from orthodox defenders. At least Aaron has the excuse that he's not a natural defender, but it can't go on.

Yeah I hope I'm remembering this correctly but he seemed to be going as slowly as possible to allow their pkayer to get the cross in while making it look like he was trying to get back. He also seemed to be veering not goal side but the other side of their player, as if he was inviting him to cross it. Strange.

Could'vebeenacontender
10-02-2024, 09:35 AM
I think it must be a modern day statistic based tactic. Probably someone has worked out that if you try and stop a cross you deflect the ball out for a corner, give a foul away and then have to face a high ball coming in after all the big lads have trundled up for the set piece.

It doesn't seem to be working very well for us though.

I think there's something in this
Apparently LW tells players to concentrate on stopping wide men getting in behind as opposed to stopping crosses
Interesting take on things

BanjoPie
10-02-2024, 09:37 AM
The next 3 matches are going to be tough - Newport, Wrexham & Crewe. 3 points would be a good return!

drillerpie
10-02-2024, 09:44 AM
I think there's something in this
Apparently LW tells players to concentrate on stopping wide men getting in behind as opposed to stopping crosses
Interesting take on things

I can believe that because that seems to be the number one aim in Pep ball anytime i see it on TV - get to the byline (nearer the goal than the touchline) and pull it back to somewhere between the edge of the 6 yard box and penalty spot.

It probably makes sense and has some stats based logic to it, but in the meantime we are getting out pants pulled down by other teams who don't seem to bother about this stuff.

We have been competitive in the last two games agaisnt good opposition but have come away with nil points from not doing basic stuff like closing down shots from the edge of the penalty area, stopping crosses and winning headers in our box.

matt_magpie
10-02-2024, 10:05 AM
Yeah I hope I'm remembering this correctly but he seemed to be going as slowly as possible to allow their pkayer to get the cross in while making it look like he was trying to get back. He also seemed to be veering not goal side but the other side of their player, as if he was inviting him to cross it. Strange.

Yeah I think there’s some truth in that, but he’s nowhere near the corner or close to him to get skinned, worse case get positionally sound (in the line of a possible cross) and just stick a leg out, he literally showed him where to put it, it was so poor.

nw6pie
10-02-2024, 10:11 AM
I can believe that because that seems to be the number one aim in Pep ball anytime i see it on TV - get to the byline (nearer the goal than the touchline) and pull it back to somewhere between the edge of the 6 yard box and penalty spot.

It probably makes sense and has some stats based logic to it, but in the meantime we are getting out pants pulled down by other teams who don't seem to bother about this stuff.

We have been competitive in the last two games agaisnt good opposition but have come away with nil points from not doing basic stuff like closing down shots from the edge of the penalty area, stopping crosses and winning headers in our box.

We’re not doing the ugly side of the game well enough - and we’re also not getting behind the opposition enough to create those ”Pep chances” that Langstaff thrives upon.

Pietastic
10-02-2024, 10:12 AM
Let’s be right about Maynard we have absolutely no clue if he’s good enough to kick us on and a great leader.
What we do know is he can set up a team to play expansively and well, I saw it with my own eyes with Wealdstone. He also seems a nice guy, Baldwin says he is a very likeable guy pre match.
So with at least those 2 things a professional footballer should have the minerals to at least play reasonable well and consistently.

Thank you - my faith in fellow humans is still alive - we cant make a judgement yet and turning all negative and accusatory just decreases the chances of a happy ending - and we all want a happy ending yeah?

crazyfists
10-02-2024, 10:53 AM
Negative or not, that performance apart from the first 13 minutes was worryingly bad, especially after coming from 2 defeats where you thought the players would want to prove themselves. We seem to have lost a spark that we had under LW so it's ok to say they're the same players, yes they are, but are they the same players mentally speaking? Not on last nights showing. It is too early to really judge SM as he's been left with a poor defence. He's going to keep playing the same formation, I understand this but would it be worth at least In training trying 442 with Rawlinson in the middle with Baldwin, Chicksen at left back and Macari or Warner at right back?

As others have said, last season it worked ok, our formation, but this season against better teams, it's getting punished. Is it better training needed in regards to closing down a cross or is it desire of the player.

OP67
10-02-2024, 10:56 AM
Negative or not, that performance apart from the first 13 minutes was worryingly bad, especially after coming from 2 defeats where you thought the players would want to prove themselves. We seem to have lost a spark that we had under LW so it's ok to say they're the same players, yes they are, but are they the same players mentally speaking? Not on last nights showing. It is too early to really judge SM as he's been left with a poor defence. He's going to keep playing the same formation, I understand this but would it be worth at least In training trying 442 with Rawlinson in the middle with Baldwin, Chicksen at left back and Macari or Warner at right back?

As others have said, last season it worked ok, our formation, but this season against better teams, it's getting punished. Is it better training needed in regards to closing down a cross or is it desire of the player.

We lost that spark while LW was with us mate, 13 points in his last 12 games for us tell you that. Unfortunately Maynard still hasn't found it, LW certainly didn't take it with him.

Piessince67
10-02-2024, 11:03 AM
The performace last night was very similar to Walsall and that was under LW.Matty Palmer is a big factor.

crazyfists
10-02-2024, 11:20 AM
We lost that spark while LW was with us mate, 13 points in his last 12 games for us tell you that. Unfortunately Maynard still hasn't found it, LW certainly didn't take it with him.

Very true you're right, I would love to see how we would do with Palmer and Scott fit but wishful thinking! Oh well I'm sure we'll win one soon enough ha ha. COYP

SmiffyPie
10-02-2024, 11:45 AM
With a few notable exceptions that was an insult to the badge.

OP67
10-02-2024, 11:50 AM
Very true you're right, I would love to see how we would do with Palmer and Scott fit but wishful thinking! Oh well I'm sure we'll win one soon enough ha ha. COYP

Missing them both big time mate. Hopefully we'll see Scott before the end of the season and Palmer will still be here next season hopefully. With money bags Wrexham and bogey team Mansfield looking likely to go up we may do better next season. Scott will take the space left by Langstaff going.

Could'vebeenacontender
10-02-2024, 11:51 AM
The performace last night was very similar to Walsall and that was under LW.Matty Palmer is a big factor.

That's hit the nail on the head
Palmer was the heartbeat of the team, doing all the stuff that no one notices, especially defensively
Always making angles to be available for a pass under pressure
A few are hiding once games start to go against us at the moment - not making an angle because they don't want the ball in case they make a ricket
Maynard has come in at a difficult time when the team needs a reset
The players were desperate to win under JOB but still conceded 5 while scoring the same amount against Grimsby
We currently have two many show players who look magnificent when we're on top but the opposite when under the pump

nw6pie
10-02-2024, 12:12 PM
Negative or not, that performance apart from the first 13 minutes was worryingly bad, especially after coming from 2 defeats where you thought the players would want to prove themselves. We seem to have lost a spark that we had under LW so it's ok to say they're the same players, yes they are, but are they the same players mentally speaking? Not on last nights showing. It is too early to really judge SM as he's been left with a poor defence. He's going to keep playing the same formation, I understand this but would it be worth at least In training trying 442 with Rawlinson in the middle with Baldwin, Chicksen at left back and Macari or Warner at right back?

As others have said, last season it worked ok, our formation, but this season against better teams, it's getting punished. Is it better training needed in regards to closing down a cross or is it desire of the player.

Last season, pretty much all of our team would have walked into any rival team. This season, it’s probably only two - Jones and Langstaff. It’s very hard to dominate and hurt teams when your players aren’t winning their individual battles - and every time a team goes 1 on 1 with us, we struggle. That comes down to recruitment.

SwalePie
10-02-2024, 12:23 PM
https://youtu.be/4xCG9UcrqMI?si=8GQfJJjMEEiKaM7s

upthemaggies
10-02-2024, 12:26 PM
Maynard has come in at a difficult time when the team needs a reset


Most managers join a club that's in or just outside the relegation zone.
A "difficult time" is when the club is up for sale, points have been deducted or staff aren't being paid.

Maynard joined a club that was in a play off position with a striker that's already bagged 20 goals barely half way through the season and the CEO making a statement that we don't need to sell.

Relatively speaking you could hardly ask for better circumstances. The major obstacle would be the lack of say recruitment wise, which I'd guess put a lot of better managers off from applying.

Elite_Pie
10-02-2024, 12:34 PM
Those highlights are painful to watch, and the goals we conceded look even worse than they did last night. The first two are hopeful long crosses from 30 yards out near the touchline, they should be easy for defenders. Their players attack the ball with intent, while our players just make token efforts at a challenge. The third is as bad as any we've conceded, our defending was pathetic.

Piessince67
10-02-2024, 12:34 PM
The other point i would make about MP is that Bostock is a far better player when he is there.MP allows JB to get forward and be more creative and a goal threat.At the moment JB is static ,playing two deep and not the same player.

Piessince67
10-02-2024, 12:35 PM
Sorry too deep,oops

OP67
10-02-2024, 12:49 PM
Those highlights are painful to watch, and the goals we conceded look even worse than they did last night. The first two are hopeful long crosses from 30 yards out near the touchline, they should be easy for defenders. Their players attack the ball with intent, while our players just make token efforts at a challenge. The third is as bad as any we've conceded, our defending was pathetic.

Great to see our "Captain" doing a captains job standing there with his head in his hands and walking away in silence, WTF!!! I guess he can hardly give them a boll*cking as he's part of the problem!! However come on do your bloody job and either boll*ck them or pick them up for christs sake!! We so need an experienced captain on the pitch.

nw6pie
10-02-2024, 12:51 PM
Those highlights are painful to watch, and the goals we conceded look even worse than they did last night. The first two are hopeful long crosses from 30 yards out near the touchline, they should be easy for defenders. Their players attack the ball with intent, while our players just make token efforts at a challenge. The third is as bad as any we've conceded, our defending was pathetic.

You’re a braver man than me watching that back so soon afterwards. What was really noticeable last night was how a Gillingham player invariably made a clearing header/block when we put crosses into the box, yet we were unable to do likewise. It also helps if your keeper isn’t permanently rooted to his line like he’s been shackled to the goalposts.

Davy500
10-02-2024, 01:01 PM
Most managers join a club that's in or just outside the relegation zone.
A "difficult time" is when the club is up for sale, points have been deducted or staff aren't being paid.

Maynard joined a club that was in a play off position with a striker that's already bagged 20 goals barely half way through the season and the CEO making a statement that we don't need to sell.

Relatively speaking you could hardly ask for better circumstances. The major obstacle would be the lack of say recruitment wise, which I'd guess put a lot of better managers off from applying.
t
, a terrible defense 3 years in the making- already on a downward spiral - and in a higher division
It was LW that joined the club in hardly better circumstances, after scot and langstaff were already here and scored 60 goals, then Jones without them LW would never have gained promotion

the_anticlough
10-02-2024, 01:16 PM
The highlights are very revealing, and damning. Freeze the film for all 3 (and the also the one that hit two posts) just as the ball is entering the box and you'll see a very accurate delivery targeting the space between our CB and RCB. Baldwin and Warner giving each other glares and wtf gestures for multiple goals. Balders has been immense with headers/blocks/interceptions in recent games, but he gave himself a bit of a night off last night and him and Warner just don't have that understanding.

jackal2
10-02-2024, 01:23 PM
You’re a braver man than me watching that back so soon afterwards. What was really noticeable last night was how a Gillingham player invariably made a clearing header/block when we put crosses into the box, yet we were unable to do likewise. It also helps if your keeper isn’t permanently rooted to his line like he’s been shackled to the goalposts.

Aidan Stone was abysmal. No command of his area whatsoever. There were several occasions where, as you say, he was rooted to his line and very lucky not to concede as a result. He gives the players in front of him no confidence at all, as you can see from their body language and frequent arms out "Where were you?" expressions.

The first goal, a cross from miles deep spent an age in the air and 6 foot 4 inch Jaden Warner does nothing to affect their big centre-forward, not to mention the other two 'centre halves' in close attendance standing watching, and Stone's position looks a bit betwixt and between too.

Second goal - a manifestation of why the wing-back system might have to go. Aaron Nemane's "attempt" to stop the cross was nothing short of a disgrace, the ball bounces twice in the box and Jodi Jones loses the player who scores. I blame Jodi less, because as a player with attacking rather than defensive instincts he was simply 'done' by the Gillingham attacker seeing the picture quicker, but Aaron has no excuse whatsoever. He literally couldn't be arsed, or was scared, when he should have been sprinting to try and close down the space.

The third goal. Bloody hell. Stone flaps like a bird, somehow we still manage to scramble it away, but Macauley and Aaron between them put the Gillingham lad under no pressure at all, allowing him time to perform a ridiculous back-header back into an area completely vacated by Bostock, Warner and Baldwin, all ball watching. An absolute shambles.

It's the kind of defending that would have had a dressing room leader like a Roy Keane pinning fellow players against the wall by the throat, but it's difficult to see Kyle Cameron doing that, because he's a defensive pacifist himself. Somebody needs to toughen them up, because for all our good play in possession, out of possession we look like a bunch of half-arsed wimps at this level, where teams don't just roll over after going a goal down.

MAD_MAGPIE
10-02-2024, 01:24 PM
Yes it was a highly disappointing performance, especially with being at home and scoring first
It seems the recruitment over the summer was poor, we all knew the defense and midfield were a big problem, in the NL most teams were poor when put under pressure. Even then we struggled against the few better sides in the NL , and in the play offs, without individual brilliance of our best 3 or 4 players we would still be in the NL
As as far as this season is concerned, i expected mid table to be honest, after a false position early on, i knew it was a farce the dream of automatic promotion ended when we failed to beat Wrexham and mansfield, after that under LW we lost 6 out of 9, then SM took over and the downtrend continues
Luckily for us the bottom 2 are way behind, so somehow we have to just turn the corner and start picking up points again. But the recruitment staff, or owners etc have got a lot to think about next season, in the players we must let go, and the ones to bring in to make a series promotion challenge - i still think patience is required as it may take 3 or more years, in know its hard when it seems we have been rolled over to easily on our own pitch - but chins up

Having slept on it whilst the performance last night cannot be excused as to how poor and below par it was I think the reality is that we are now in a transitional period and we need to be patient.

There does feel like a bit of a mourning period going on having lost LW from both players and fans. The loss and presence is clearly evident. So it’s going to take a period of time to reset and readjust before moving forward. I wouldn’t say the players don’t want to play for SM either as some have suggested as I don’t believe we have such toxic characters in the dressing room that we had in the past. Trying to adjust maybe, feeling a bit dejected at the loss of their much loved leader yes. All natural and human responses. As I’ve said before any decent honest professional will respect any coach who treats them with respect and dignity. They might not agree with their methods but they get paid to follow their orders. I doubt it’s like the Damed United where Maynard has gone in and told them to throw their playoff medals in the bin and despises LW.

Also I don’t agree with comments comparing SM to Fullerton he’s got far more experience and shows in interviews he has the knowledge of understanding as to where our problems lie.
He is right it’s going to take time and it can only be sorted on the training ground.

As for recruitment. Those who got us back to where we belong have had a chance to prove if they can make the step up. It is clear that in the summer there will need to be strengthening.

To our philosophy we don’t need to change course. We should stick to it and learn to execute it better and get players in who can help realise it at L2 level. Having Palmer back next season will be massive and key like a new signing. Likewise we will have Scott back as well for next season.

It maybe a bumpy few weeks or months until the end of the season. The worst thing that could happen is negatively and toxicity set in which would be unnecessary in what is after all our first season back in the league.

MapperleyMagpie
10-02-2024, 01:37 PM
Wow! Watching back last night's highlights in the cold light of day looks even worse than live. The defending was shocking. Thus has happened time and time again this season. The players either don't give a toss, are lazy, inept or match rigging it's that bad.

Davy500
10-02-2024, 01:37 PM
Having slept on it whilst the performance last night cannot be excused as to how poor and below par it was I think the reality is that we are now in a transitional period and we need to be patient.

There does feel like a bit of a mourning period going on having lost LW from both players and fans. The loss and presence is clearly evident. So it’s going to take a period of time to reset and readjust before moving forward. I wouldn’t say the players don’t want to play for SM either as some have suggested as I don’t believe we have such toxic characters in the dressing room that we had in the past. Trying to adjust maybe, feeling a bit dejected at the loss of their much loved leader yes. All natural and human responses. As I’ve said before any decent honest professional will respect any coach who treats them with respect and dignity. They might not agree with their methods but they get paid to follow their orders. I doubt it’s like the Damed United where Maynard has gone in and told them to throw their playoff medals in the bin and despises LW.

Also I don’t agree with comments comparing SM to Fullerton he’s got far more experience and shows in interviews he has the knowledge of understanding as to where our problems lie.
He is right it’s going to take time and it can only be sorted on the training ground.

As for recruitment. Those who got us back to where we belong have had a chance to prove if they can make the step up. It is clear that in the summer there will need to be strengthening.

To our philosophy we don’t need to change course. We should stick to it and learn to execute it better and get players in who can help realise it at L2 level. Having Palmer back next season will be massive and key like a new signing. Likewise we will have Scott back as well for next season.

It maybe a bumpy few weeks or months until the end of the season. The worst thing that could happen is negatively and toxicity set in which would be unnecessary in what is after all our first season back in the league.

Mourning period now LW has gone haha/ What is is that people dont get, we were on a downward spiral with LW, then he jumps ship without showing any ability the could turn it around. Now some fans think he was so grweat they absolve LW off all responsibility, and we are losing now because he has gone. The delusion is unbelievable

i961pie
10-02-2024, 01:41 PM
Give it a rest we know you don't like/rate LW so you don't need to have a dig at every opportunity.
The majority on here don't agree with you and you laughing at him because Swansea are losing went down like a lead balloon.

Davy500
10-02-2024, 01:43 PM
Why dont people give it a rest about LW - he gone now so leave it at that

Davy500
10-02-2024, 01:56 PM
Give it a rest we know you don't like/rate LW so you don't need to have a dig at every opportunity.
The majority on here don't agree with you and you laughing at him because Swansea are losing went down like a lead balloon.

You cant answer for the majority - answer for yourself and that is fine. There are plenty that prob agree with me on this issue, but the level of abuse they receive because it does not agree with your view - prob think they wont bother posting
And every time i hear about how great LW was, i will post how average he was - so if you dont like it stop posting nonsense yourself

i961pie
10-02-2024, 02:40 PM
You are the expert at posting nonsense.

upthemaggies
10-02-2024, 03:12 PM
Stags lead at FGR

durhampie
10-02-2024, 03:19 PM
Missing them both big time mate. Hopefully we'll see Scott before the end of the season and Palmer will still be here next season hopefully. With money bags Wrexham and bogey team Mansfield looking likely to go up we may do better next season. Scott will take the space left by Langstaff going.

Hopefully Scott will partner Macca up front with jatta on the bench. . We need a big sort out next season, otherwise we are going back into the national League.. We need to get rid of all of the crap starting with, Bostock, McGoldrick, Nemane, Morias, Randall, Stone, Cameron and the guy from Crew.

upthemaggies
10-02-2024, 03:19 PM
Down to 11th as it stands.
Newport winning at Walsall. Could do with them slipping up. If they win then they go into next week's game against us on a 4 match winning sequence and unbeaten in 7.

Davy500
10-02-2024, 03:20 PM
You are the expert at posting nonsense.

Thought it was you. I commentated on a delusional post saying we were mourning LW leaving and thats the reason why Notts keep losing ., when we were already losing before LW left
Anyhing to actually say about that -if not jog on

matt_magpie
10-02-2024, 03:25 PM
Hopefully Scott will partner Macca up front with jatta on the bench. . We need a big sort out next season, otherwise we are going back into the national League.. We need to get rid of all of the crap starting with, Bostock, McGoldrick, Nemane, Morias, Randall, Stone, Cameron and the guy from Crew.

Jatta might be better than both of them? We don’t know yet. I think a good call on the rest of them unfortunately apart from the Crewe lad as to my knowledge he hasn’t even stepped on the pitch for us yet?

durhampie
10-02-2024, 03:30 PM
Jatta might be better than both of them? We don’t know yet. I think a good call on the rest of them unfortunately apart from the Crewe lad as to my knowledge he hasn’t even stepped on the pitch for us yet?

I would be very surprise if Jatta is better than both Macca or Scott. He has hardly played any games this season, and spends most of the time on the bench..

matt_magpie
10-02-2024, 03:34 PM
I would be very surprise if Jatta is better than both Macca or Scott. He has hardly played any games this season, and spends most of the time on the bench..

Just saying we can’t assume, I’d be more than happy with 3 fit and quality strikers. If Scot plays there will have to be a change in formation, he can’t be played as an attacking mid.
It was depressing looking at the bench last night, absolutely no game changers on it.

maddogslater
10-02-2024, 03:41 PM
Scott gets better with each game he misses

i961pie
10-02-2024, 03:53 PM
Thought it was you. I commentated on a delusional post saying we were mourning LW leaving and thats the reason why Notts keep losing ., when we were already losing before LW left
Anyhing to actually say about that -if not jog on

Jog on???😂

upthemaggies
10-02-2024, 03:55 PM
Newport 3-0 up at Walsall at HT, Tuesday night now looks even more daunting.
Wrexham 0 Bradford 0 but Wrexham will probably win it in injury time.

Notts 11th as we stand.

durhampie
10-02-2024, 03:58 PM
Just saying we can’t assume, I’d be more than happy with 3 fit and quality strikers. If Scot plays there will have to be a change in formation, he can’t be played as an attacking mid.
It was depressing looking at the bench last night, absolutely no game changers on it.

We havent got the players capable of playing that formation. Recruitment has been the problem this season. Apart from Crowley all the other signings have been a disaster. Our defence last season was at times left wanting, but we have done nothing to address the issue, other than sign players that are injured.. LW knew exactly what he was doing by going to Swansea...

ladyretfordpie
10-02-2024, 04:02 PM
You cant answer for the majority - answer for yourself and that is fine. There are plenty that prob agree with me on this issue, but the level of abuse they receive because it does not agree with your view - prob think they wont bother posting
And every time i hear about how great LW was, i will post how average he was - so if you dont like it stop posting nonsense yourself

I think you'll find you're very much in the minority and to say they daren't comment on here because of the abuse they'll get proves how delusional you are!

uysapie
10-02-2024, 04:22 PM
We havent got the players capable of playing that formation. Recruitment has been the problem this season. Apart from Crowley all the other signings have been a disaster. Our defence last season was at times left wanting, but we have done nothing to address the issue, other than sign players that are injured.. LW knew exactly what he was doing by going to Swansea...

Said in earlier post that everyone could see that the defence needed improvement but rock all was done, we still have the NL defenders who aren't good enough.

matt_magpie
10-02-2024, 04:22 PM
We havent got the players capable of playing that formation. Recruitment has been the problem this season. Apart from Crowley all the other signings have been a disaster. Our defence last season was at times left wanting, but we have done nothing to address the issue, other than sign players that are injured.. LW knew exactly what he was doing by going to Swansea...

Yes it’s been off. I know you don’t like Mcgoldrick but I do think he’s been a success to a point but there has to be a question whether the money was better spent elsewhere.
The main issue for me is the loss of Palmer, then we lost Bostock and then he came back totally out of form, Robertson is still finding his way, we’re empty in there as well as lacking at the back. Cameron’s ok but not if you want to be near the top, Warner might prove to be a good loan.
I took some encouragement SMs willing to change and try something different, it didn’t work last night though, but I don’t think anything would have.

He’s got a massive challenge now, as defeatist as it sounds I’m not that bothered this season, we’re not ready to go up by a long way, though I think we need to make the playoffs to keep the momentum going and the additional fans coming.

durhampie
10-02-2024, 04:43 PM
Bostock has been crap all season, and is one of the reasons why we are losing games.We shouldn't have signed McGoldrick,as we didn't really need him. Our priority should have to bolster the defence.

upthemaggies
10-02-2024, 04:47 PM
I'm listening to Mansfield on Radio Notts and their co-commentator does not shut up for a second, nearly every word Jake Garner says gets a "yes", "hmmm", "no", "arrrr", "right", "oooo" and constantly interrupting his flow.

Wrexham's 8 home match winning sequence in danger, 0-0 with 8 mins to go.

upthemaggies
10-02-2024, 04:54 PM
Ooooo Wrexham 0 Bradford 1

Will be 3 defeats in a row for Wrexham if it stays like that

BCnotts18
10-02-2024, 04:56 PM
Scott gets better with each game he misses

I'm don't really understand the hype around him, he was decent last season when called upon and obviously scored the all important penalty at Wembley, but he's completely unproven at league two level and that was before his injury. He hardly warrants us pinning our hopes on when we returns.

OP67
10-02-2024, 04:57 PM
Ooooo Wrexham 0 Bradford 1

Will be 3 defeats in a row for Wrexham if it stays like that

You know they'll get an equaliser in the 98th minute

keldsyke
10-02-2024, 04:59 PM
I'm listening to Mansfield on Radio Notts and their co-commentator does not shut up for a second, nearly every word Jake Garner says gets a "yes", "hmmm", "no", "arrrr", "right", "oooo" and constantly interrupting his flow.

Wrexham's 8 home match winning sequence in danger, 0-0 with 8 mins to go.

Watching Mansfield have to say look rampant

upthemaggies
10-02-2024, 05:00 PM
A very good win for LW away at 6th placed Hull.

i961pie
10-02-2024, 05:05 PM
A very good win for LW away at 6th placed Hull.

😊

OP67
10-02-2024, 05:09 PM
Watching Mansfield have to say look rampant

Looks like they'll be taking one of the automatic spots along with Stockport. While w're probably in a battle to try and snatch 7th along with a hand full of other teams. Still plenty of points to play for but we need to get back to winning ways on Tuesday but Newport look like they've picked up recently including beating Wrexham.

upthemaggies
10-02-2024, 05:14 PM
So with all results in, Newport Co currently the longest unbeaten (7) in L2 and the longest winning sequence (4)

Notts down to 10th, and in the current form table we're now 20th. Next opponents Newport are 2nd in that table. Wrexham now looks the much more winnable of the next two fixtures, maybe even of the next three.

Remaining fixtures with current league positions.....

Tue.13.Feb newport co. (11th)
Sat.17.Feb wrexham (5th)
Sat.24.Feb CREWE ALEX. (3rd)
Tue.27.Feb SUTTON UTD (23rd)

Sat.02.Mar bradford city (14th)
Sat.09.Mar WIMBLEDON (8th)
Tue.12.Mar crawley town (15th)
Sat.16.Mar accrington s. (13th)
Sat.23.Mar SALFORD CITY (19th)
Fri.29.Mar swindon town (17th)

Mon.01.Apr MILTON KEYNES (6th)
Sat.06.Apr HARROGATE T. (7th)
Sat.13.Apr walsall (16th)
Tue.16.Apr STOCKPORT CO (1st)
Sat.20.Apr COLCHESTER U. (22nd)
Sat.27.Apr forest green (24th)

tied_up_in_notts
10-02-2024, 05:24 PM
Ooooo Wrexham 0 Bradford 1

Will be 3 defeats in a row for Wrexham if it stays like that
Four in a row in all competitions