⚽Match Thread vs. Wrexham AFC 17.02.24 [EFL L2]

[skandark]

Team news around 2pm...

[kill_the_drum]

Nothing would make me happier than hearing Notts fans singing Wrexham falling apart again in the 90th minute.

[Oldstripy]

One radio Nottm 103.8

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Was it mind games and is Jatta actually ready for selection? I guess we will find out shortly.

[Notts78]

Was it mind games and is Jatta actually ready for selection? I guess we will find out shortly.

I don’t know why he couldn’t go on the bench… I’m hoping it’s a smoke screen. Any other club at this level who pays money for a player would play him… not Notts.

[kill_the_drum]

I don’t know why he couldn’t go on the bench… I’m hoping it’s a smoke screen. Any other club at this level who pays money for a player would play him… not Notts.

I think your first three words are why the rest of your statement is a pointless, and completely untrue, criticism of the club.

[Notts78]

I think your first three words are why the rest of your statement is a pointless, and completely untrue, criticism of the club.

I guess we will find out shortly. However, it wasn’t intended as a criticism but rather something that happens… how many new players have we signed who it takes time to ‘integrate’ them? JJ, Bostock, Macari, even Luca the keeper (whilst Stone was so obviously low in confidence). We signed a midfielder, I can’t be bothered to find out his name, who is no where to be seen. Is he injured?

[SmiffyPie]

C'mon people, Jatta can't possibly be ready for selection. Not on a fitness level, he may well be able to run the legs off any of our players but until he has more than a lazy kick around on the practice ground he won't have a clue how the players around him play or how they expect him to play. He needs some intense full team training before he is put in a position that could damage his confidence, cost the team points or get the not so understanding supporters on his back.

[Shropshire_Pie]

Jatta is at the Racecourse I saw him get off the team bus.

[skandark]

25738

[irishpete]

Is that a new away top?

[skandark]

hmm why revert?

[Notts78]

C'mon people, Jatta can't possibly be ready for selection. Not on a fitness level, he may well be able to run the legs off any of our players but until he has more than a lazy kick around on the practice ground he won't have a clue how the players around him play or how they expect him to play. He needs some intense full team training before he is put in a position that could damage his confidence, cost the team points or get the not so understanding supporters on his back.

You could say the same for Morias. Having an attacking option from the bench surely is a plus… it’s funny how we have a player signed on and raring to go and the attitude is about possible fitness and knowing how we play. Yet Cedwyn Scott has been out for 6 months and folk we excited he’d be back and firing in March, yet both scanarios are relevant to him.
I’m not suggesting we Chuck him on for the sake of it, but why not have him on the bench and if the game situation dictates we can get 10-15 minutes of football in to him.
Now I have seen todays squad I’m flabbergasted. 3 defenders and 3 midfielders in the bench.

[OP67]

3 at the back then, more attacking but leaving us wide open to Wrexhams hoof it over the top tactics that they play a fair bit.

[OP67]

Is that a new away top?

That's the goalkeeper >;)

[Notts78]

3 at the back then, more attacking but leaving us wide open to Wrexhams hoof it over the top tactics that they play a fair bit.

Why change a winning side?

[matt_magpie]

Why change a winning side?

I’d say another gutsy decision to go to a back 3 if that’s the case, if he has he obviously believes that’s the best set up against them.

[OP67]

Why change a winning side?

My thoughts exactly, especially against Wrexham and their "style" of play. I thought maybe Macari was injured again but he's on the bench

[Notts78]

I’d say another gutsy decision to go to a back 3 if that’s the case, if he has he obviously believes that’s the best set up against them.

Fingers crossed it works out. Otherwise more ammunition for those who think he is out of his depth.

[matt_magpie]

Fingers crossed it works out. Otherwise more ammunition for those who think he is out of his depth.

I don’t think he is tactically and if he’s brave enough to do what he believes will work rather than the safe option with fans it says a lot about him.

[ncfcog]

Apparently still a back 4 with AN at RB. Macari failed a late fitness test so benched. Rawlo obviously not fancied either.

[kill_the_drum]

I might be wrong but Nemane finished the game at RB on Tuesday.
Could he possibly keep the same formation?

[kill_the_drum]

Apparently still a back 4 with AN at RB. Macari failed a late fitness test so benched. Rawlo obviously not fancied either.

That answers my question 👍🏽

[jackal2]

Apparently still a back 4 with AN at RB. Macari failed a late fitness test so benched. Rawlo obviously not fancied either.

I'd trust Austin or Chicksen at right back more than I'd trust Nemane, who for me is hopeless defensively, but time will tell...

[matt_magpie]

I'd trust Austin or Chicksen at right back more than I'd trust Nemane, who for me is hopeless defensively, but time will tell...

But attacking wise with him and Jones that side we could pin them back there and cause a lot of issues for them.

[OP67]

Fingers crossed it works out. Otherwise more ammunition for those who think he is out of his depth.

We have the chance to change it if it's not working out with Macari on the bench

[Notts78]

But attacking wise with him and Jones that side we could pin them back there and cause a lot of issues for them.

And they have a great big channel to counter us on. Attacking wise, great (as long as the Nemane against Gillingham is at home). Defensively, that is a gaping weakness.
PP will be saying to his right sided player… over hit your crosses to the back post as they have a midget who hasn’t won a header in his career.

[i961pie]

I'd trust Austin or Chicksen at right back more than I'd trust Nemane, who for me is hopeless defensively, but time will tell...

Couldn't agree more, Nemane is a liability in defence.

[jackal2]

But attacking wise with him and Jones that side we could pin them back there and cause a lot of issues for them.

Well that's the optimistic view, I hope you're right. I'm fearful of what happens if we need Aaron to stop a cross though. Couldn't and wouldn't tackle a paper bag.

[Notts78]

We have the chance to change it if it's not working out with Macari on the bench

With no out and out attacker in the bench… if it doesn’t work out, it means we are losing. Possibly by 2 or 3. And the change we’d make is a defender for Nemane. Makes sense.
I really hope it works out and the rest that Nemane got mid week gives him a new lease of life and he’s at his best.

[Davy500]

Im not expecting much today at Wrexham, but you never know.
Off course if we lose, we will have all the idiots saying LW could have done better- haha

[MapperleyMagpie]

I'm hoping this is tactical change as macari looked great last game and Nemane poo against Gillingham

[SmiffyPie]

Well l hope it is a 4 (even with AN in there, he's more use already at the back than as a WB trying to defend) if it's a 3 Wrexham will be rubbing their hands. Mind you SM seems to be a bit foxy (Maynard the Raynard) so he may well have something up his sleeve?

[Mud Pie]

is iFollow video loading for others?

[upthemaggies]

Hassell and Stall on commentating duty today.

[matt_magpie]

Well that's the optimistic view, I hope you're right. I'm fearful of what happens if we need Aaron to stop a cross though. Couldn't and wouldn't tackle a paper bag.

Well might as well be optimistic before and negative after if we get battered 😂

[deadyoyomagpie]

is iFollow video loading for others?
Only getting audio here. Annoying as was expecting to get video - hopefully they'll sort it out.

[the_anticlough]

Now I have seen todays squad I’m flabbergasted. 3 defenders and 3 midfielders in the bench.

Yeah, and AN very lucky to get back in after just one game sitting out.

[upthemaggies]

Stall noting that the Notts fans have been in great voice in the build up to the game.

[upthemaggies]

Huge chance for Langstaff in the opening 60 seconds.
Stall thinks he should have finished it.

[OP67]

Both teams have a Jones on the pitch and Radio Nottm is confusing XD

[upthemaggies]

Swansea losing, for those still interested in how LW is getting on.

[upthemaggies]

Wrexham finally having a bit of a spell..........and they score.

[OP67]

What a surprise!!! We are sh*t in defence and will cost us any chance of a play off place this season!!

[upthemaggies]

Stall: On the balance of play, Notts can feel hard done to, but they only created one chance...... Wrexham took theirs.

[irish_pie]

On top at the moment, Jones is roasting them so far... Wrexham look very dangerous too unfortunately...targeting Camerons side all the time

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Just like away against Mansfield we dominate and have the best chances for the first fif**** minutes then a short spell of pressure and they score. We need to be taking these early chances away from home and taking the lead. Wrexham next to no threat up and till the past few minutes before their goal.

[irishpete]

Dominating Wrexham
Commentator had orgasm when McLean tackled Jones in their half

[irish_pie]

And as I speak we conceded an absolute shambles of a goal, once again down Camerons side, routine ball into the box and a complete mess trying to defend it...horrible goal but something needs doing down Camerons side or we are in huge trouble, story of the game so far... 1 chance each and we fluffed ours :(

[upthemaggies]

Stall: World class save (by the Wrexham keeper)

[upthemaggies]

Notts down to 10th as it stands, Wrexham into the top 3.

[Davy500]

Just like away against Mansfield we dominate and have the best chances for the first fif**** minutes then a short spell of pressure and they score. We need to be taking these early chances away from home and taking the lead. Wrexham next to no threat up and till the past few minutes before their goal.

True - defense is crap still let in goals at the first sign of pressure

[Thordardaughter]

Dominating Wrexham
Commentator had orgasm when McLean tackled Jones in their half

They need to look at our team sheet. Who is Macdonald in our midfield ?

[hissingdwarf]

Dominating Wrexham
Commentator had orgasm when McLean tackled Jones in their half

Quite comical listening to how excited he gets. Think he describes their goal as magnificent etc…wasn’t that fecking good!

[MapperleyMagpie]

Why change a ffing winning combo!!!!!

[i961pie]

Im not expecting much today at Wrexham, but you never know.
Off course if we lose, we will have all the idiots saying LW could have done better- haha

Obsessed or what?

[i961pie]

Swansea losing, for those still interested in how LW is getting on.

Davy will be wetting himself.

[irishpete]

They need to look at our team sheet. Who is Macdonald in our midfield ?
Just heard him say that🤣🤣
They are up their own arses

[irish_pie]

Ref is very biased towards Wrexham so far, letting so much go, lots of fouls that are only going the Welsh teams way... we are playing ok without creating much, lots of balls into the box but to absolutely nobody in a Notts shirt, Cameron is getting absolutely roasted

[Davy500]

just our look - hit bloody post

[OchPie]

Stall can't believe we haven't scored in the half... sigh

[upthemaggies]

Unlucky. We've missed a sitter, forced a world class save and now hit the post.

Stall: Notts are absolutely banging at the door..... Head and shoulders the better team.

[jackal2]

Stall can't believe we haven't scored in the half... sigh

If you don't gobble up your chances against teams as good as Wrexham, it's a fair bet you'll pay for it. Got to be clinical.

[MapperleyMagpie]

Why change a ffing winning combo!!!!!

[irish_pie]

So their Jones clatters Baldwin from behind and no card? Have a bad feeling that this ref will screw us big time today

[OchPie]

At least no mullinpen in the first half

[irishpete]

Mullin?😂😂

[LaxtonLad]

Why change a ffing winning combo!!!!!
If I wanted to be pedantic I could say it’s part of the learning curve, but really I think it’s hope over experience.

[upthemaggies]

HT

Stall: Notts absolutely dominated the game. Wrexham will think they've won the lottery. Almost incessant Notts pressure.

[irish_pie]

Mullins trying for his usual cheating penalty...very surprised that shocking ref didn't fall for it... we still look terrible at the back, nobody back there having a good game

[OP67]

Why change a ffing winning combo!!!!!

Macari failed a late fitness test, hope that isn't going be an ongoing issue!!!

Been a typical Notts performace, loads of possession and zero goals. Wrexham score with their first shot on target!!! Can't see us getting back into this as we'll end up conceeding a 2nd trying to get level.

[irishpete]

Jeez these boys get excited over anything.

[Davy500]

Macari failed a late fitness test, hope that isn't going be an ongoing issue!!!

Been a typical Notts performace, loads of possession and zero goals. Wrexham score with their first shot on target!!! Can't see us getting back into this as we'll end up conceeding a 2nd trying to get level.

thats what happens when your defense crumbles under a first attack- till notts sort this out we are going no where

[irishpete]

Think the football is better under SM. More direct less tippy tappy for the sake if it

[upthemaggies]

After the 9-2 in midweek, both Stags and Harrogate games are 0-0. Stags currently top though thanks to Stockport losing.

[meoldlaner]

Can't believe the commy said he thought Wrexham deserve to be ahead.

[tommopie8]

I thought we played well enough to at least go in level if not in front. Pretty much the same as the Mansfield game.

Miss a sitter at the beginning, hit the post, they score with pretty much their first shot and their defender heads against their own woodwork as well.

[jackal2]

Macari failed a late fitness test, hope that isn't going be an ongoing issue!!!

Been a typical Notts performace, loads of possession and zero goals. Wrexham score with their first shot on target!!! Can't see us getting back into this as we'll end up conceeding a 2nd trying to get level.

Goals change games. By the sound of it we'll create more chances but we've got to put them away. Wrexham won't care less that we dominated, because they made the single move that mattered.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Wrexham are a **** football team. The type we should be beating.

But weak referees allow their thugs up front to make chances.

They’ve had one half chance and taken it. They are t going to go much further with that brand of football.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

How we are not in the lead going into half time is beyond me. We dominated that half, had more chances and had Wrexham penned into their half. Some good link up play with Nemane, Crowley and Jones down the right which has worked well. Jodi Jones delivery of the ball into the box in dangerous areas should have seen us take the lead.

Wrexham basically had five minutes around the time they scored where they threatened.

You can tell we’ve rattled and worried them as it’s like a library in the stadium and their fans are very quiet.

We are not getting much from the officials either. A few challenges on our players going unpunished and some very soft free kicks being given against us particularly down the right when Didzy and Jones have been on the ball. A throw in was also given for what looked like a deflected JJ cross into the box.

Stuart Maynard deserves credit for how he’s set us up today as we’ve played well, it’s just unfortunate that we didn’t at least score one goal.

Let’s hope second half we can get something we deserve. But we’ve got to keep going as we did in the first half and be a bit sharper as they will look to punish us on the counter.

[SmiffyPie]

I dislike watching Wrexham intensely. They aren't a hard team or a physical team they are a bunch of well drilled cheating sods.

[Notts78]

I dislike watching Wrexham intensely. They aren't a hard team or a physical team they are a bunch of well drilled cheating sods.

Are you surprised given who their manager is?

At the end of the day, they play an effective and winning brand. It’s doesn’t have to be pretty. Big advantage they have is they know this is our best side and whilst it remains 1-0, we don’t have players in the bench to change it up. Wrexham have 2 strikers that would make most sides in L2

[Davy500]

I dislike watching Wrexham intensely. They aren't a hard team or a physical team they are a bunch of well drilled cheating sods.

Obviously not today because wrexham are playing us. But fair play to them they play to their strenghts and are effective at it

[OP67]

Are you surprised given who their manager is?

At the end of the day, they play an effective and winning brand. It’s doesn’t have to be pretty. Big advantage they have is they know this is our best side and whilst it remains 1-0, we don’t have players in the bench to change it up. Wrexham have 2 strikers that would make most sides in L2

Exactly they're playing tried and tested lower league football and they're 1-0 up and are now dominating the game. I predict a 3-0 lose at this rate!!

[irish_pie]

Started the second half badly, all Wrexham...can't get out and when we do get a chance to clear we give it straight back "(

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Ref playing for Wrexham

[keldsyke]

Nemane is a liability, how many times has he been beat again?

[OP67]

A typical Notts game of 2 halves, we're being completely over tun in the 2nd half!!

[Davy500]

Started the second half badly, all Wrexham...can't get out and when we do get a chance to clear we give it straight back "(

Had to happen ,after we dominated first half, Wrexham were bound to come into it

[The_Don_ORiordan]

A typical Notts game of 2 halves, we're being completely over tun in the 2nd half!!

Bullied

[marky]

Nemane is a liability, how many times has he been beat again?

Shouldn't be playing.

[jackal2]

I dislike watching Wrexham intensely. They aren't a hard team or a physical team they are a bunch of well drilled cheating sods.

They'll be fine with the way they play until we can do something to prove it doesn't work.

[LaxtonLad]

Exactly they're playing tried and tested lower league football and they're 1-0 up and are now dominating the game. I predict a 3-0 lose at this rate!!

My thoughts too op67. We have players playing in this league for the first time and together for the first time too. But the learning curve is maybe not helped by not keeping a regular first team together, different team and different set-up. All learning together.

[marky]

All those slagging Wrexham off - well they're going up and we will be play offs at best.

[Eastcoastultra1977]

Shouldn't be playing.

Red card waiting to happen

[Thordardaughter]

My thoughts too op67. We have players playing in this league for the first time and together for the first time too. But the learning curve is maybe not helped by not keeping a regular first team together, different team and different set-up. All learning together.

Not to mention a new manager.

[upthemaggies]

Wrexham hit the woodwork for the 2nd time this half.

[hissingdwarf]

Shouldn't be playing.

Neither is Cameron as left back tbf. Most of their promising stuff is coming down that side and Cameron isn’t up to it.

[upthemaggies]

Stockport 0-3 down at Tranmere!!!

[Davy500]

Not to mention a new manager.

Nothing to do with manager- Notts defense is very poor

[The_Don_ORiordan]

All those slagging Wrexham off - well they're going up and we will be play offs at best.

1. You don’t know they are going up.

2. For the money they’ve spent you’d want to be building a side that can actually play at a higher level, they don’t have to buy bargains like we do

I would want better value for my money if I were dead pool

[upthemaggies]

Stall: The way this 2nd half has gone, Notts will be pleased to still be in the game. Wrexham dominant.

[Davy500]

Stockport 0-3 down at Tranmere!!!

Bit of a surprise - but irrelevant in the grand scheme of things - come season end Stockport will still be promoted

[upthemaggies]

Goal disallowed for Notts. Hand ball.

[Eastcoastultra1977]

Nothing to do with manager- Notts defense is very poor

..up to the manager to sort it tho' and none of our recent managers have. Some of the players are not up to Lge.2 Cameron is atrocious.

[irishpete]

Think we would have sunk without trace in this type of game under LW in 2nd half the pressure at the start

[upthemaggies]

Stall saying the ref obviously saw something we didn't (the disallowed goal) but there wasn't much protest from Notts.

[upthemaggies]

Mansfield losing now as well as Stockport, it's all going Wrexham's way.

[Eastcoastultra1977]

I didn't see anything and i was off my seat ! The ref is a real 'homer' but Notts are still crap this half.

[keldsyke]

Stall saying the ref obviously saw something we didn't (the disallowed goal) but there wasn't much protest from Notts.

It was handball he controlled the ball with his arm ( McGoldrick)

[keldsyke]

I think Nemane has given up, not even breaking into a sweat to track back never mind stop the cross

[Eastcoastultra1977]

Yup,I take it back,Nemane won't be red carded,he can't get near anyone

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Sick of Cameron falling over

[upthemaggies]

Free kick to Notts in a very dangerous position.

[upthemaggies]

Free kick comes to nothing

Stockport now 0-4 down

[upthemaggies]

Grimsby 1 Donny 5.

Could Grimsby drop into tier 5 for a 3rd time?

Bottom two both losing as well though.

[Notts78]

I go back to my much earlier point. Have a forward on the bench… 1-0 down and we Chuck on 2 defenders and midfielders.
Jatta could surely have gone on for the last 10-15 minutes.

[keldsyke]

I go back to my much earlier point. Have a forward on the bench… 1-0 down and we Chuck on 2 defenders and midfielders.
Jatta could surely have gone on for the last 10-15 minutes.

I think the way we are playing it wouldn’t made a Jatta of difference

[upthemaggies]

7 mins added time

[Eastcoastultra1977]

I go back to my much earlier point. Have a forward on the bench… 1-0 down and we Chuck on 2 defenders and midfielders.
Jatta could surely have gone on for the last 10-15 minutes.

I agrere but he's fit ,not MATCH FIT,big difference.He could get himself injured.

[upthemaggies]

Hassel: Wrexham so deep, just asking Notts to attack them

[Notts78]

I agrere but he's fit ,not MATCH FIT,big difference.He could get himself injured.

How will he get match fit if he doesn’t play any minutes? More training?

[MapperleyMagpie]

We are all style no substance !!

[Eastcoastultra1977]

We are all style no substance !!

...stoppage time and i'am still awaiting some style.

[MapperleyMagpie]

Rubbish rubbish rubbish

[i961pie]

How will he get match fit if he doesn’t play any minutes? More training?

We don't know if he is ready, let's leave it to the people who do.

[upthemaggies]

Stall: You've got to say Wrexham defended their box brilliantly well.

FT
Wrexham 1 Notts 0

[MapperleyMagpie]

Poor defence, no heart or fight in the team, we are a mid table team at best . Why change the bloody formation? Why no strikers yet again on bench

[upthemaggies]

Stall: Plenty of positives in the performance but nothing for points.

[MapperleyMagpie]

This lies with our terrible recruitment team with no-one to change a match and up to now ineffective Jan signing except Robertson

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Poor defence, no heart or fight in the team, we are a mid table team at best . Why change the bloody formation? Why no strikers yet again on bench

Really?

We fail to take early chances and get punished. A narrow defeat away to a side others would have you believe are certainties for promotion.

[LaxtonLad]

Bad management today. We had a team that had just won well but inexperience changed it.

[jackal2]

Stall: You've got to say Wrexham defended their box brilliantly well.


That's what they've got over us at present. They're not a pretty team but they only needed one goal to win.

[Notts78]

We don't know if he is ready, let's leave it to the people who do.

Whether it’s him, Morias or some 12 year old…. Have a forward on the bench. It’s not rocket science. I’m not sure there will be another team who has played today who have no forwards on the bench. For the last 5-10 minutes he could have popped Connell on up front.
All we did was play the same way… Wrexham become more and more comfortable.

[MapperleyMagpie]

Yes really!! We leave empty handed

[OchPie]

Looks to me like we were robbed. But what can you do.

https://twitter.com/Ford2Ford66/status/1758898816026104175

[matt_magpie]

Not embarrassing losing 1-0 there, I’ll take the positives with Jatta to come and a favourable run in, hopefully we get in the play offs.

[Eastcoastultra1977]

Wrexham and Mansfield know how to win matches.

Bloody garbage Notts

[OP67]

Same old same old, loads of possession and fail to take chances, it's becoming a tad predictable now!!! Not a chance of this team will make a play off place this season but to be fair we'd all have been happy with a mid table finish wouldn't we?

[matt_magpie]

Looks to me like we were robbed. But what can you do.

https://twitter.com/Ford2Ford66/status/1758898816026104175

What’s your the rule where it hits you now? I personally would say that was handball.

[keldsyke]

Looks to me like we were robbed. But what can you do.

https://twitter.com/Ford2Ford66/status/1758898816026104175

It was handball, let’s put it like this if that was in a red shirt against us most on here would be in uproar if it was given.

[tommopie8]

Looks to me like we were robbed. But what can you do.

https://twitter.com/Ford2Ford66/status/1758898816026104175

See I thought it was a goal on first viewing but now it looks like it's off his arm to me. Difficult angle to tell.

[upthemaggies]

Wrexham are the best team in the league at home, though arguably they were at their most vulnerable at the Racecourse all season going into this game.
0-1 against a top 3 side is hardly a disaster though

Some strange L2 results today, just 2 top half sides winning whilst 7 in the bottom half take all 3 points.

Notts down to 9th.

[BJPIE]

It wasn't a poor performance
Bostock disappointing McGoldrick trying too much fancy stuff. Macca has to score. No excuses.
Cameron an absolute shambles. The man is clueless. I await his fan club talking their usual nonsense. He needs to go NOW. When he does I hope he' s holding Nemanes hand. He was even worse. Does not have a clue. The softest footballer I've ever seen in a Notts shirt.
The ref robbed us. Absolutely nothing wrong with McGoldricks goal
Crowly Jones and Baldwin excellent

[LaxtonLad]

Same old same old, loads of possession and fail to take chances, it's becoming a tad predictable now!!! Not a chance of this team will make a play off place this season but to be fair we'd all have been happy with a mid table finish wouldn't we?

I suppose we would but having once led the pack then slowly sinking it feels worse than slowly rising.

[jackal2]

Same old same old, loads of possession and fail to take chances, it's becoming a tad predictable now!!! Not a chance of this team will make a play off place this season but to be fair we'd all have been happy with a mid table finish wouldn't we?

In a manner of speaking, yes.

I don't want to us to get promoted again until we're ready, because we would get chewed up, spat out and sent back in worse shape, like Forest Green. If we have to tolerate days like this as part of the learning process to become tougher and better next season, then so be it.

Wrexham have the resources to take a more direct route to League One in every sense, but we need to take smaller steps.

[1955pie]

Wrexham are the best team in the league at home, though arguably they were at their most vulnerable at the Racecourse all season going into this game.
0-1 against a top 3 side is hardly a disaster though

Some strange L2 results today, just 2 top half sides winning whilst 7 in the bottom half take all 3 points.

Notts down to 9th.

7 teams from 8th right down to 14th separated by just 1 point.

[upthemaggies]

Looks to me like we were robbed. But what can you do.

https://twitter.com/Ford2Ford66/status/1758898816026104175

Harsh, but he's flexed his arm into a position where it's helping to cushion the ball, even though almost all of it nestles into his torso, I can see why the ref made the decision.

[SinceSept1959]

Video not conclusive , depending on the angle I can see why the ref , from his position ,made that decision !
A very frustrating day.
Listened on the Radio and I thought Notts well deserved a point .
The difference being clinical finishing and defensive awareness.
Listening to Stall it sounded a decent performance but those who streamed the game were not so complimentary.
Hoofball 1-0 Football ?

[meoldlaner]

Disappointing to lose but I can't fault the performance.
It really was an opportunist goal but we didn't take our chances.
Apart from that goal I think our keeper only had one save to make.
Wrexham just hoofed it forward, no real football.
We just need that attacking option off the bench as Didsy looked leggy. Hopefully Jatta can be that man

[tommopie8]

Not embarrassing losing 1-0 there, I’ll take the positives with Jatta to come and a favourable run in, hopefully we get in the play offs.

Not sure about favourable run-in. Some teams may be near the bottom but my reckoning we've only beaten 6 of the 14 teams we're yet to play.

[kingmasson]

We don’t seem to have the mental strength to beat teams away from home in a league fixture of magnitude since Chesterfield(a) last season. When next season comes around we need a starting XI that aren’t just fast track bully’s and can go away from home against sides above us and win. I really thought we’d win today … it was all in our favour but …

[i961pie]

Poor defence, no heart or fight in the team, we are a mid table team at best . Why change the bloody formation? Why no strikers yet again on bench

The defence couldn't have been to bad today, we have conceded one goal away to the best team in the league.

[jackal2]

Cameron an absolute shambles. The man is clueless. I await his fan club talking their usual nonsense.

Kyle Cameron can't defend. That's his problem. He's not bad on the ball, but he just doesn't have the instincts of a defender. If he has a bright future in football it won't be as a defender.

[Davy500]

1. You don’t know they are going up.

2. For the money they’ve spent you’d want to be building a side that can actually play at a higher level, they don’t have to buy bargains like we do

I would want better value for my money if I were dead pool

Think its pretty likely Wrexham will be promoted

[tommopie8]

Kyle Cameron can't defend. That's his problem. He's not bad on the ball, but he just doesn't have the instincts of a defender. If he has a bright future in football it won't be as a defender.

He's an enigma - when we played Torquay away in the play-offs he looked great and had room to improve. At Notts he seems to have gone into his shell and relies on buying a free-kick too often instead of having the decisiveness to make an early decision which doesn't leave things to chance. I'd say if we want to challenge then we need better.

He's not the fastest, most technical or great in the air.

I'd say Baldwin showed when Wrexham had their period at the start of the second half how crucial he is to us. Someone of his calibre but maybe even a bit more rudimentary would be great.

My first choice back 4 for Crewe would be:
Macari Warner Baldwin Chicksen

[Davy500]

Stall: Plenty of positives in the performance but nothing for points.

And in the end its the ppints that matter

[Mapperleypie]

I don’t normally comment on refereeing performances and I’m not going to change the habit of a lifetime for that cretin.

[Davy500]

Davy will be wetting himself.

Why will i- I just dont think LW was that good - and his results so far at Swansea prove that

[Davy500]

Ref is very biased towards Wrexham so far, letting so much go, lots of fouls that are only going the Welsh teams way... we are playing ok without creating much, lots of balls into the box but to absolutely nobody in a Notts shirt, Cameron is getting absolutely roasted

In the end - it was the ref,s decision to diasallow goal that handed Wrexham all 3 points

[Notts78]

In the end - it was the ref,s decision to diasallow goal that handed Wrexham all 3 points

Correctly disallowed tho.

[Davy500]

Hate it when Forest win thats all you ever here about post match on Radio Nottingham

[drillerpie]

What’s your the rule where it hits you now? I personally would say that was handball.

I would say handball because his torso was facing slightly toward goal but he managed to control it back away from goal BUT it seems he did it with the very uppermost part of his arm.

When they check VAR for offside they draw the line from the forward most part of the t shirt figure (ie arm below above the shirt sleeve) so is that handball or not? Any refs on here that can advise?

[Davy500]

I would say handball because his torso was facing slightly toward goal but he managed to control it back away from goal BUT it seems he did it with the very uppermost part of his arm.

When they check VAR for offside they draw the line from the forward most part of the t shirt figure (ie arm below above the shirt sleeve) so is that handball or not? Any refs on here that can advise?

Either way seems ref was quick to dissallow it

[Notts78]

Either way seems ref was quick to dissallow it

If he delayed his decision, you would be moaning that it can’t have been that clear cut.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

I thought that the performance overall was good today and it was an entertaining game. The difference between the two sides being marginal in that like against Mansfield we failed to capitalise on the chances we created early on and defensively we didn’t hold out as well first half which allowed them to take the lead. We were certainly good for a point. That’s one of the key lessons we will need to learn for next season if we want to be getting points on the road against the best sides in the division and be contenders for automatic. I think there are quite alot of negative comments and yes we lost but it wasn’t the roll over or as bad as some people on here are portraying it to be in my view.

One of the positives that we stood up well to the storm that Wrexham sent our way from the get go in the second half as Wrexham really turned the screw and dominated and we could not get hold of the ball or play our game. The fact we were more solid defensively in that period and kept ourselves in the game is perhaps more telling of what maybe to come under Stuart Maynard as we’ve got to be tough to beat away from home. I feel had Wrexham scored a second at that point it would have been game over for us.

We got back to playing our game as the second half wore on and we got back on top and Wrexham sat deeper and deeper. I don’t how or why our goal was disallowed but we kept pushing for that equaliser but again in comparison to Wrexham we were a bit short with the final ball in and around the box.

Some people are complaining that there was no striker on the bench today but for me Jones, Macca, Crowley and McGoldrick being on the field as long as possible provided us with the best opportunity of getting a goal back. If Jatta needs time so be it and I’m not sure if Morais could have been the key or difference to unlock the Wrexham defence today. So can understand Stuart Maynard’s rationale.

[Davy500]

If he delayed his decision, you would be moaning that it can’t have been that clear cut.

Thats my whole point -many are suggesting it was border line - but my origianl post backed up an earlier post that said the ref seem biased towards Wrexham

[for*sttown63]

Hate it when Forest win thats all you ever here about post match on Radio Nottingham

It doesn’t matter if they win,draw or lose that’s all you hear about….it just more louder when they do win!!

[BanjoPie]

Some fickle people on here😂- hola from Mexico

[marky]

Some fickle people on here��- hola from Mexico

Suppose you're happy Forest won.

[Rainbowpie]

Video not conclusive , depending on the angle I can see why the ref , from his position ,made that decision !
A very frustrating day.
Listened on the Radio and I thought Notts well deserved a point .
The difference being clinical finishing and defensive awareness.
Listening to Stall it sounded a decent performance but those who streamed the game were not so complimentary.
Hoofball 1-0 Football ?

Don't think the ref gave it as he pointed to the center circle straight after the goal
I didn't think it was handball in real time and still think it hit him in his breast just below the shoulder
Shocking ref who gave everything to Wrexham
Baldwin only one who came out of that with any high rating

[MapperleyMagpie]

Banjo just takes pleasure from winding anyone up who sees the game differently to him. We keep hearing we can go again next year? Who with? Whole defence needs overhaul, if still in league 2 we lose langstaff and jodi, bostock and mcgoldrick even older with legs going and it's unlikely our owners will spend us out of trouble.

[drillerpie]

I thought that the performance overall was good today and it was an entertaining game. The difference between the two sides being marginal in that like against Mansfield we failed to capitalise on the chances we created early on and defensively we didn’t hold out as well first half which allowed them to take the lead. We were certainly good for a point. That’s one of the key lessons we will need to learn for next season if we want to be getting points on the road against the best sides in the division and be contenders for automatic. I think there are quite alot of negative comments and yes we lost but it wasn’t the roll over or as bad as some people on here are portraying it to be in my view.


I agree. We've played well away from home against Stockport, Mansfield and now Wrexham and lost a tight game to each of them without picking up a single point.

We certainly didn't roll over by any means today but we need to learn to convert our good play into points. That's a habit that the top 3 have that we don't.

[MapperleyMagpie]

Add to that crowds will begin to drift off and momentum and that great feeling will be gone.

[Davy500]

Banjo just takes pleasure from winding anyone up who sees the game differently to him. We keep hearing we can go again next year? Who with? Whole defence needs overhaul, if still in league 2 we lose langstaff and jodi, bostock and mcgoldrick even older with legs going and it's unlikely our owners will spend us out of trouble.

I know how frustrating this is - but promotion will take 3 or 4 years just as it did for us to escape the NL

[Rainbowpie]

Also another telling sign that it wasn't hand ball is none of the Wrexham defenders appeal for handball when didzy controls it

[upthemaggies]

Maynard thinks the disallowed goal should have been given.

"It hits his chest, it's clear", refers to Wrexham players reaction thinking it was a goal.

[Notts78]

I know how frustrating this is - but promotion will take 3 or 4 years just as it did for us to escape the NL

Meanwhile, Chesterfield is ill go through League 2 next season.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Meanwhile, Chesterfield is ill go through League 2 next season.

Chesterfield haven't got into league 2 yet. Lost 4-3. A lot of their games have been close in a poor national league.

[upthemaggies]

5/10 years ago I don't think any ref would have disallowed that goal. It's as if FL officials are now thinking to themselves "what would VAR do in this situation?"

[matt_magpie]

I know how frustrating this is - but promotion will take 3 or 4 years just as it did for us to escape the NL

I’m not so sure with 3 places but time will tell. I do think we can get in the playoffs this season.

[TedBovisPie]

Not good enough can’t break down these well drilled sides. Scored as many against Grimsby as we have since.

[SwalePie]

https://youtu.be/EiOcRjh_NBg?si=ebDLvSPQtRhwi6-R

[matt_magpie]

Not good enough can’t break down these well drilled sides. Scored as many against Grimsby as we have since.

And neither can many other sides. SMs trying to sort the other end too which tbf he seems to be going in the right direction with overall, we’ve enough quality to get goals in most games, play offs was always our biggest hope and hopefully we do that.

[Lullapie]

And in the end its the ppints that matter

Spoken like a true alcoholic!

[OP67]

Kyle Cameron can't defend. That's his problem. He's not bad on the ball, but he just doesn't have the instincts of a defender. If he has a bright future in football it won't be as a defender.

He can't defend and when he tries he either falls over looking for a free kick or sells the keeper short with a back pass week after week!!! He ain't a captain, never has been. Possibly the quietest captain on the pitch ever! Why does every manager continue with him as captain?? Wrexham knew he was crap and played a lot down his side.

Crewe next, deep joy another zero points game to look forward to XD

[Glad2BeAPie]

This game was the ideal one for Jatta to come on for the last 15 minutes, get some crosses in for him, especially how Wrexham were just sitting back.

[legs77]

Not good enough can’t break down these well drilled sides. Scored as many against Grimsby as we have since.

Well i'd argue we did score today though 😉

[Bohinen]

I agree. We've played well away from home against Stockport, Mansfield and now Wrexham and lost a tight game to each of them without picking up a single point.

We certainly didn't roll over by any means today but we need to learn to convert our good play into points. That's a habit that the top 3 have that we don't.

That's hugely compacent. We weren't good enough. You have to say that the issue we had was resolved against Newport then the manager inexlicably reverted to a losing formula.

[legs77]

That's hugely compacent. We weren't good enough. You have to say that the issue we had was resolved against Newport then the manager inexlicably reverted to a losing formula.

We played a back 4 today first half and start of second half which we getting hammered 45-60 mins so SM had to do something.

We played ok like we did at Mansfield which is encouraging but still got no points.

Next two at home and id hope we can get at least 4 points from them.

[OP67]

I’m not so sure with 3 places but time will tell. I do think we can get in the playoffs this season.

Do you? I'm not so sure. We're only 2 points ahead of Newport in 14th place. We're kinda staying in touch with 7th but others are now eyeing up that 7th place. We have 3 out of the next 4 games at home and need to make the most of the advantage of that.

[durhampie]

We played a back 4 today first half and start of second half which we getting hammered 45-60 mins so SM had to do something.

We played ok like we did at Mansfield which is encouraging but still got no points.

Next two at home and id hope we can get at least 4 points from them.

We didnt play with a back 4. We had Nemane at wingback again, and he was crap..

[bule1]

We are at a turning point in the season. Had a bad run and if we sort issues quick we can still make the playoffs, if we do not this will be a "building" season. Hope for the former, starting to expect the latter but would have taken this postition 12- 18 months ago make no mistake.

[crazyfists]

7 months in the league without buying our way up. We also have had arguably our most important player injured for 90% of the season. We're doing ok.

[maddogslater]

Nemane didn't play wing back in the first half you clown, is your big baby brother mapperley moaner pie.

[BanjoPie]

What has forest to do with my post? - it seems that some on here want to get rid of half the players and Maynard when we lose and then say how great they are when we win - as I said ‘fickle’

[applepie2]

Maynard was correct - definitely not handball.

[i961pie]

Chesterfield haven't got into league 2 yet. Lost 4-3. A lot of their games have been close in a poor national league.

You are joking? They are 20 points clear and lost away to the team in second place.

[optipez]

7 months in the league without buying our way up. We also have had arguably our most important player injured for 90% of the season. We're doing ok.

That's a balanced view, there's a few who've unrealistic expectations.
We've a competitive squad but it is our first season. We've lost Palmer for most of it, our manager, the players are on a learning curve as are the recruitment team in a higher division.

[Mark_Ross]

Why can't we compete against the better teams? ?

[BigFatPie]

A lot of comparisons with the Mansfield game, but I thought we were far better today. Similar problems in the boxes as we’ve had all season against the top clubs, but I thought we were more dangerous, especially first half, and defended better than we’ve done previously.

Obviously a disgraceful decision for the goal, but what can you do, Wrexham always get those decisions. Like Mansfield their manager gets into ref’s heads.

Why our performances consistently get worse as matches progress is a problem Maynard really needs to get to the bottom of, sooner rather than later.

[matt_magpie]

Tried in vein to get the stream today but watched the highlights.
Macca missed an absolute sitter to put us 1-0 up
Cameron’s attempt to cut out the second was abysmal, slow and even turned his back and almost ducked.
Nemane was definitely playing right back first half

Small margins but I honestly feel we’re going to turn these results around.

[legs77]

We didnt play with a back 4. We had Nemane at wingback again, and he was crap..

We played with a back 4 in the first half if you don’t think so then you need to watch more closely.

[durhampie]

We played with a back 4 in the first half if you don’t think so then you need to watch more closely.

I was there,.. and that was not a back 4.. it was 3 plus Nemane.. Who was useless. Macari shouldn't have been dropped for him..

[legs77]

I was there,.. and that was not a back 4.. it was 3 plus Nemane.. Who was useless. Macari shouldn't have been dropped for him..

So it was a back 4 then.

As for he was useless he wasn’t at all in the first half I’d take a look at the “other” full back rather than him today and nothing came down his side from Wrexham either.

Macari may not have been “dropped” he has only just comeback from injury/illness so sports science team may have advised he shouldn’t play twice in 4-5 days from the start, although I expect him to be back for Crewe providing he has no set backs.

[SmiffyPie]

Nemane didn't play wing back in the first half you clown, is your big baby brother mapperley moaner pie.Suggest you look at the highlights again Maddog, first Wrexham attack down our right (high ball) Nemane was so far out of position (halfway towards the halfway line and level with the corner of our box) and had a trot towards the ball with the Wrex player running like f... to get the ball. Nemane played most of the game as if he was WB (I question marked in the rating if it was a 4?).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqmYeao2L0s look at 1.15 then 2.50 (I won't go on). Yes I will, 3.20 he was in front of JJ ffs.

[durhampie]

Nemane didn't play wing back in the first half you clown, is your big baby brother mapperley moaner pie.

The only clown is you....

[matt_magpie]

He clearly playing RB first half. If he got caught out of position its irrelevant, Macari was often down by their corner on Tuesday night.

[SmiffyPie]

If he got caught out of position its irrelevant, Macari was often down by their corner on Tuesday night.You having a laugh? Caught out of position is irrelevant? Well that's ok then (can you email SM and let him know?). Newport and Wrexham (and our team) two completely different fish.

[BigFatPie]

Nemane couldn’t defend to save his life in the national league, why anyone expects him to in this league god only knows. I thought he did alright today, but there’s reasons why we’ve let in 120 goals this season.

[matt_magpie]

You having a laugh? Caught out of position is irrelevant? Well that's ok then (can you email SM and let him know?). Newport and Wrexham (and our team) two completely different fish.

I haven’t got his email address unfortunately. I said where he got caught out of position is irrelevant to backing up to say he wasn’t playing RB. The fact he was pushing on as Macari did Tuesday would have been instruction from SM, not him just going rogue, he’s not going to tell nemane to just sit back is he ?

[jacobncfc]

Suggest you look at the highlights again Maddog, first Wrexham attack down our right (high ball) Nemane was so far out of position (halfway towards the halfway line and level with the corner of our box) and had a trot towards the ball with the Wrex player running like f... to get the ball. Nemane played most of the game as if he was WB (I question marked in the rating if it was a 4?).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqmYeao2L0s look at 1.15 then 2.50 (I won't go on). Yes I will, 3.20 he was in front of JJ ffs.

Because he isn’t a right back so unsurprisingly got caught massively out of position - we were obviously playing four at the back first half and switched it after 55 mins or so.

[jacobncfc]

On the game, our latest ‘but we played quite well!’ bad luck story against a good team.

Defence has got absolute pellets this season and probably deservedly so, but also the case that Jones, Langstaff, McGoldrick and Crowley have all been utter dog **** every time they’ve come up against a team with more ambition this season than just avoiding a relegation battle. Absolute flat track bullies.

[crazyfists]

Why can't we compete against the better teams? ?

We did compete today, against Stockport away and crewe and Mansfield. We could have won those games but didn't. Maybe we're not as good as them or maybe we just fluffed our chances or maybe the refs haven't given us clear penalties and goals. Maybe everyone should calm the **** down.

[jacobncfc]

Why can't we compete against the better teams? ?

Stags at home aside, performances have been fine. We haven’t even conceded loads in them generally, our much vaunted will-surely-be-sold-to-the-Championship-soon attacking players just appear to be completely useless when faced with a team who might make the play-offs or better.

[maddogslater]

Nemane couldn’t defend to save his life in the national league, why anyone expects him to in this league god only knows. I thought he did alright today, but there’s reasons why we’ve let in 120 goals this season.
Is that apart from the national league playoff semi where he saved us from going 1 3 with a superb last gasp tackle
REMEMBER!!

[PedroTheFisherman66]

where is Morias ? is he never not injured ??

[BigFatPie]

Is that apart from the national league playoff semi where he saved us from going 1 3 with a superb last gasp tackle
REMEMBER!!

I’m not sure you REMEMBER it that well, cos it would have made it 3-2, but if you think one admittedly superb tackle makes him f00kin Cafu fill your boots.

[Mark_Ross]

Stags at home aside, performances have been fine. We haven’t even conceded loads in them generally, our much vaunted will-surely-be-sold-to-the-Championship-soon attacking players just appear to be completely useless when faced with a team who might make the play-offs or better.

It's a bit of a mystery. I don't get it. Are Mansfield, Stockport, Wrexham, etc really that much better than us?

[Woodypie]

Why can't we compete against the better teams? ?
Err, cos they're better than us?

[queenslandpie]

Stags at home aside, performances have been fine. We haven’t even conceded loads in them generally, our much vaunted will-surely-be-sold-to-the-Championship-soon attacking players just appear to be completely useless when faced with a team who might make the play-offs or better.

How many chances did we create against the better sides. Especially later in the games when all the bigger teams just shut up shop against us and we gleefully pass the ball around the edge of their box. We couldn't unpick a Christmas cracker padlock with the current team / set up and the stats speak for themselves against the better drilled sides. We cannot win ugly. We sometimes just need to.

[Mark_Ross]

Err, cos they're better than us?

see above

Okay, but surely we ought to be able to at least... I dunno... something.

[SwalePie]

https://youtu.be/HxBSTu2d4h4?si=-SvMKB6wRcWS8zAO

[MancMagpie]

Missed it all due to work today. Not reading through the full thread either as it's late.
However, from what I've seen (EFL extended highlights) we looked very unlucky to come away with nothing.
The highlights posted above dont do us justice.
Looks like Didzy's goal was legit. Macca missed a sitter.
If we play like that against most, we'll start putting a run together now.
Unlucky Notts. Now on to Crewe. We owe them one for that ****ty away day earlier on in the season. Hate Crewe. Tin pot as ****. Crap away day and *******s supporters.

[i961pie]

Missed it all due to work today. Not reading through the full thread either as it's late.
However, from what I've seen (EFL extended highlights) we looked very unlucky to come away with nothing.
The highlights posted above dont do us justice.
Looks like Didzy's goal was legit. Macca missed a sitter.
If we play like that against most, we'll start putting a run together now.
Unlucky Notts. Now on to Crewe. We owe them one for that ****ty away day earlier on in the season. Hate Crewe. Tin pot as ****. Crap away day and *******s supporters.

I've always liked Crewe, they try to play football and always give youngsters a chance.

[i961pie]

He can't defend and when he tries he either falls over looking for a free kick or sells the keeper short with a back pass week after week!!! He ain't a captain, never has been. Possibly the quietest captain on the pitch ever! Why does every manager continue with him as captain?? Wrexham knew he was crap and played a lot down his side.

Crewe next, deep joy another zero points game to look forward to XD

Just seen the Parkinson interview and he said they targeted Cameron and put their dangerman on the centre half playing left back and it worked. Surely if we play a back four Chicksen is a better defender.

[Notts78]

I've always liked Crewe, they try to play football and always give youngsters a chance.

We all know why they give youngsters a chance.

[queenslandpie]

Just seen the Parkinson interview and he said they targeted Cameron and put their dangerman on the centre half playing left back and it worked. Surely if we play a back four Chicksen is a better defender.

Yet another reason why he needs to be shown the exit door. 2 year contract is going to come back to haunt us on that one but at the end of last season most people would have put him on the keep list.

[The Dug Out]

We have no doubt that Macca is a damn good player, 22 goals prove it. But...against the top sides in our league he barely gets a look in & when he does, for whatever reason, he doesn't put it away, the 1st minute miss says so.This must have affected his attraction to higher league clubs,his ability must put doubts in their minds when millions of ££'s are being talked about, the comparisons with Vardy are evaporating.
That goal of Didsy's was legit,chested down & in, the ref made a mistake which happens.
We were tremendous for the first 45, flattered to decieve springs to mind but we are better than that, maybe 2 more pieces in the jigsaw and we will be winning games like yesterday (twice) and mansfield(twice) and stockport and gillingham. Maybe one of the pieces just arrived in da house in time for crewe.

[LaxtonLad]

Surely if we play a back four Chicksen is a better defender.

I've often thought that 'pie. Camaron seems to have no imagination when it comes to playing the ball out. LW used to insist on sideways pass, pass, pass and pass and at last, when Camaron saw fit to move the ball forward, it was always to whoever was on his left, no variation, just forward to his left. I often wondered why the enemy managers never spotted that and at last, in a league higher, one has.

[1955pie]

This game was the ideal one for Jatta to come on for the last 15 minutes, get some crosses in for him, especially how Wrexham were just sitting back.

Jatta doesn’t appear to be very good with his head.

[i961pie]

We have no doubt that Macca is a damn good player, 22 goals prove it. But...against the top sides in our league he barely gets a look in & when he does, for whatever reason, he doesn't put it away, the 1st minute miss says so.This must have affected his attraction to higher league clubs,his ability must put doubts in their minds when millions of ££'s are being talked about, the comparisons with Vardy are evaporating.
That goal of Didsy's was legit,chested down & in, the ref made a mistake which happens.
We were tremendous for the first 45, flattered to decieve springs to mind but we are better than that, maybe 2 more pieces in the jigsaw and we will be winning games like yesterday (twice) and mansfield(twice) and stockport and gillingham. Maybe one of the pieces just arrived in da house in time for crewe.

That’s fine by me if it means we keep him. 22 goals in this league with still plenty more to play isn’t a bad return. If other clubs don’t want him then that’s great for us imo. I hope no one wants Jones also.

[matt_magpie]

How many chances did we create against the better sides. Especially later in the games when all the bigger teams just shut up shop against us and we gleefully pass the ball around the edge of their box. We couldn't unpick a Christmas cracker padlock with the current team / set up and the stats speak for themselves against the better drilled sides. We cannot win ugly. We sometimes just need to.

When teams win ugly it usually means they’ve only had 2 or 3 chances and got a goal or maybe 2.
In both Mansfield and Wrexham away we’ve had sitters falling to the top scorer in L2 and an ex prem striker known for his finishing whilst keeping it relatively tight at the back, it’s just hasn’t gone our way but I can see what SMs trying to do on making us more solid.

[Bozzy11]

Looks to me like we were robbed. But what can you do.

https://twitter.com/Ford2Ford66/status/1758898816026104175
Deffo comes off his bicep.. never mind

[MAD_MAGPIE]

When teams win ugly it usually means they’ve only had 2 or 3 chances and got a goal or maybe 2.
In both Mansfield and Wrexham away we’ve had sitters falling to the top scorer in L2 and an ex prem striker known for his finishing whilst keeping it relatively tight at the back, it’s just hasn’t gone our way but I can see what SMs trying to do on making us more solid.

I can't fault SM for the way he's approached a tough run of fixtures against the top sides by making us hard to beat. It has had to be the first job in what has been an easily penetrable and porous defence this season.

To concede three goals against Barrow, Mansfield and Wrexham is a much better and marked improvement defensively and bodes well going forward especially away from home. Yes the counter argument is we only scored 1 goal in those three games, but certainly in the Mansfield and Wrexham games we created enough chances and had opportunities to take the lead and at least come away with the point if not all three. It would be more concerning if we had not created the chances.

We are at the point of it being very fine margins and the pendulum needs to swing just that bit so that we are getting a goal from two or three early chances. That's the difference between us and the likes of Mansfield and Wrexham at this point in time as we are able to compete with the best in this league.

We've got lots of games against teams around us who will be eying up a top seven finish such as Crewe, MK Dons, Harrogate, Bradford, Accrington, Wimbledon and a final big test against Stockport. So our fate is in our own hands. Let's make 7th place ours.

[Scrabble]

Unlucky to lose that one chaps - you play really nice footy but nice or ugly you need to get it in the net to win! Arthur also made a few great saves today to keep us in the game. I was particularly impressed with your Jones!

I think we will get auto promotion this year but it looks like you will have to do it through the play offs - again.

Hope you do though because it would be great to be playing you in L1 next season.

[BigFatPie]

Deffo comes off his bicep.. never mind

Not sure anatomy is your strong point.

[BigFatPie]

It's a bit of a mystery. I don't get it. Are Mansfield, Stockport, Wrexham, etc really that much better than us?

Yeah i don’t think anyone should mistake close games for thinking that those teams aren’t a good bit better than us. We’ve been found wanting in both boxes in all of those games, and when the opposition has managed to get in front, we’ve been fairly unconvincing in our efforts to get level, disallowed goals aside. We’ve not been ahead in any of them.

To be fair though, letting in 5 against Sutton, Grimsby and Colchester is a better indicator of where our weaknesses have been this season.

[jackal2]

Just seen the Parkinson interview and he said they targeted Cameron

Wise move. Kyle Cameron's disgraceful defending cost us a point.

For the goal, Cameron actually blocks the initial cross, but while the attacker (Barnett I believe) hastily retrieves the ball to have another go, Cameron saunters after him in the most "can't be arsed" fashion possible, completely failing to close him down, leaving an acre for the ball to be simply crossed over his head.

Absolutely passionless, pathetic defending. Just lack of effort and awareness of the threat, pure and simple. RUN man!

[1955pie]

Unlucky to lose that one chaps - you play really nice footy but nice or ugly you need to get it in the net to win! Arthur also made a few great saves today to keep us in the game. I was particularly impressed with your Jones!

I think we will get auto promotion this year but it looks like you will have to do it through the play offs - again.

Hope you do though because it would be great to be playing you in L1 next season.

Is that because you want 6 points? 😀

[Elite_Pie]

Obviously a disgraceful decision for the goal, but what can you do, Wrexham always get those decisions. Like Mansfield their manager gets into ref’s heads.

Funny you should say that. Just like the Stags fans, the Wrexham fans thought the ref was excellent when they played us at their place.

We must be biased!

[BenFostersGloves]

A lot of comparisons with the Mansfield game, but I thought we were far better today. Similar problems in the boxes as we’ve had all season against the top clubs, but I thought we were more dangerous, especially first half, and defended better than we’ve done previously.

Obviously a disgraceful decision for the goal, but what can you do, Wrexham always get those decisions. Like Mansfield their manager gets into ref’s heads.

Why our performances consistently get worse as matches progress is a problem Maynard really needs to get to the bottom of, sooner rather than later.

We absolutely do not. We've had many ref's come to the Racecourse this season and have absolute howlers.
I'm yet to see a replay of your disallowed goal that's conclusive. From what I've have seen that can either way and we just happened to get the decision on this occasion.

You keep the ball so well and started the much better team. But ultimately there's no real cutting edge, Langstaff's early chance aside its all in front of us which suits us perfectly. We grew into the game and rode our luck at times but I think if you'd have had that goal allowed we would've come to life. Thought Cannon was the best player on the pitch. Absolute class.
I love McClean and thought he was great too, he just knows what to do and when to do it.
Jones for you had a good first half but disappeared second half. I was annoyed we didn't target Cameron a lot more - the fella is no left back is he and was there for the taking all game.