⚽Match Thread vs. AFC Wimbledon 09.03.24 [EFL L2]

[skandark]

Team news around 2pm....

[skandark]

25841

[Old_pie]

No Bostick or Goldilocks!

Checkback Chicksen starts and our favourite man back in goal.

[drillerpie]

25841

Is that 4-4-1-1?

Well done to the poster who called Slocombe returning in goal on the prediction thread!

[hissingdwarf]

Will Randall? Who is he? Never heard of him.

Is this the start of something? :) :)

[1955pie]

Is that 4-4-1-1?

Well done to the poster who called Slocombe returning in goal on the prediction thread!

4 3 2 1 ??

[keldsyke]

Will Randall? Who is he? Never heard of him.

Is this the start of something? :) :)

No Morias as well 🤔

[SmiffyPie]

Well the back line sells itself. Nemane and JJ outside JOB and Robbo and ML and Crowley up?

[the_anticlough]

Jones is the interesting one for the formation - if he plays inside-forward SM can still go with his 3-4-2-1. If he goes 4 at the back, lets hope it lasts longer than 12mins this time.

Some of the changes look Ok. The keeper wheel has spun back around to Slocs. He's pretty good at playing the style, can make saves and tends not to have meltdowns when coming back in.
Macari for Warner makes sense - big difference in readiness and familiarity there. No JB/Didzy means there will be more running in the team.

[OP67]

Will Randall? Who is he? Never heard of him.

Is this the start of something? :) :)

If you'd taken your boots you'd have been on the bench ahead of Randall I'm sure. With so many injured including sick note Morias we're struggling to get a bench together I'd imagine.

[BanjoPie]

Anyone know if Mcgoldrick & Bostock have injuries?

[SmiffyPie]

Didzy probably from the other week but JB? (Did think JB needed a rest, but does he spit his dummy?)

[upthemaggies]

Surely we hit rock bottom with Sutton and it can only get better from here.

[WarsopPie]

No Morias as well 🤔

Going on loan back to national league before there deadline apparently.
Chicksen ffs he should never be anywhere near a league 2 line up is that what it’s come too? We lose this today Maynard is under some real pressure

[the_anticlough]

I'm kind of interested in watching out for who is playing for SM and his team and who isn't, but that's not normally noticeable when it's been a crisis of confidence across the team generally.
When it's that way, it looks similar but everything is done with less belief and conviction. Hopefully, it will be nothing like that today, but I'm not holding my breath.

[upthemaggies]

Bracegirdle is commentating on Stags today. Garner presenting. Hassel & Stall for Notts.

[TSANHO]

4-2-3-1 I’d have thought?

……………………Slocombe

Macari ……Balders…………Cameron……..Chicks

…………….Robertson……JOB

…….Jones………..Crowley…………Azza

………………….….Macca

Glad to see Slocombe and Chicks back in, someone who is a natural out and out defender. Says something about our recruitment when we have 4 goalkeepers and there’s not one who can cement a place in the side……or looks even remotely like they may be able to. Slocombe is our best imo.

Hopefully no silly individual errors that cost us goals today, that’d be a start. This is it really for this season isn’t it, If we don’t win or at least see big improvements we will be too far behind to mount a serious playoff challenge imo.

[drillerpie]

Bracegirdle is commentating on Stags today. Garner presenting. Hassel & Stall for Notts.

Things looking up already!

[hissingdwarf]

Positive vibes here, but if we stuff up early….it could turn nasty very quickly!

[upthemaggies]

Hassel just said it's a change of ref, Ollie Yates- who did the Sutton game!

[the_anticlough]

Jones is the interesting one for the formation - if he plays inside-forward SM can still go with his 3-4-2-1.

He stuck with his preferred shape and went with this

[upthemaggies]

Stags winning and Wrexham losing, not that either have much relevance to us now.

[upthemaggies]

First time we've gone beyond the 22nd minute in a home game under Maynard without conceding a goal.

[BCnotts18]

Not seen anything so far to suggest we can win this game today. Just two poor teams slogging it out with very little quality at all.

[BCnotts18]

Anyone know what the 26th minute clapping was for?

[upthemaggies]

Stall summing up so far: Contested in the middle of the park largely

[upthemaggies]

Anyone know what the 26th minute clapping was for?

26 year old Notts fan died this week. Oliver Dwyer I think his name was.
RIP.

[OP67]

Why didn't Cameron our so called "Captain" have a word then with the ref re the holding of Langstaff rather than just run past him?!!! He's got to be up there as one of our worst captains of all time XD

[upthemaggies]

MKD coming from behind to lead and tighten up the auto race. Notts down to 15th as it stands with Bradford leading 3-0 away and leapfrogging us. Still 7 pts behind the play offs.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Why didn't Cameron our so called "Captain" have a word then with the ref re the holding of Langstaff rather than just run past him?!!! He's got to be up there as one of our worst captains of all time XD

Cameron shouldn't be captain full stop, if O'Brien is playing should be but not Cameron

[upthemaggies]

HT 0-0

Stall: We can all go and pour some cold water on our faces to wake ourselves up.

[OP67]

I do find it odd that you get a free kick and because you needed the physio on you have to got off for 30 seconds. Giving the team that fouled and gave the free kick away an advantage. What an absolutely crazy rule that is XD

We can safely say we're not going to threaten the play off places with this football!!

[Davy500]

I will say this - obviously we are going to be ok this season, but the way things are going- i am worried about what could happen to us next season - massive changes are needed

[crazyfists]

Well half time but nothing much to report. It's all gone abit turgid of late.

[hissingdwarf]

Well, that was uninspiring to say the least.
Thought Nemane had a good half, but seems like it’s destined for a nil nil so far.

[OP67]

MKD coming from behind to lead and tighten up the auto race

Can see them taking an auto place. Great job Williamson is doing there, I'm sure he would have been our No1 choice if he hadn't already gone to MK.

[SmiffyPie]

Best game so far for AN in a long long time.
Screaming for Jatta to come on and draw some fouls from their big defenders.

[keldsyke]

Best game so far for AN in a long long time.
Screaming for Jatta to come on and draw some fouls from their big defenders.

To be honest that’s not difficult! Another that’s not good enough

[DuckPie]

Why didn't Cameron our so called "Captain" have a word then with the ref re the holding of Langstaff rather than just run past him?!!! He's got to be up there as one of our worst captains of all time XD

You mate are deluded, Cameron has been on refs back the whole 1st half, put your hand in the box and pull another letter of a player to slate.🤷🏼*♂️. Try getting behind the team

[legs77]

I will say this - obviously we are going to be ok this season, but the way things are going- i am worried about what could happen to us next season - massive changes are needed

Yes that is a worry.

Jones just cannot get on the ball id get him wider its too congested in the middle.

We are tighter today but barely look like scoring, I just dont see what we are trying to do gameplan wise.

[Davy500]

Well half time but nothing much to report. It's all gone abit turgid of late.

Same old , same old - been going on for months now - thank god we started well this season - otherwisw we would be in real trouble

[legs77]

As Stallard said is it 1 minute aded time or is the 4th official giving his rating on the game 🤣

[OchPie]

Not watching today. Have we had a shot on target yet?

[upthemaggies]

Not watching today. Have we had a shot on target yet?

We just had the first one as you posted, keeper turned it away for the corner.

[BCnotts18]

Baldwin off injured.

[upthemaggies]

FGR 1 Walsall 0, closes Notts' gap to the play offs to 6 points.

[upthemaggies]

Notts having a decent spell, crowd getting into it.
7th, 8th and 9th all losing and we have at least one game in hand on all of them. If we were winning we'd be 4 points behind.

[upthemaggies]

10,224

including 1100 or so away

[SwalePie]

ffs

[upthemaggies]

Wimbledon score

Own goal

[upthemaggies]

Long throw into the box, Rawlinson (we think) went to head it and glanced it in.

[MapperleyMagpie]

This whole team and especially Maynard are an ffin joke!! Rawlinson should be nowhere near this team

[Big Bob]

I knew it. Maynard has to go

[Old_pie]

Wimbledon score

Own goal

Sorry. I've been busy and had literally just switch on, and it's not the first time that's happened. :mad:

[upthemaggies]

Wrexham are the only team we've failed to score against at home before today (in the league).

[MapperleyMagpie]

We are not only terrible on the pitch but it seems things really are not healthy off the pitch, we are committing financial suicide, all because we didn't invest correctly this season.

[legs77]

I knew it. Maynard has to go

Yes been totally negative today.

We cant have him in the dugout next season so defeats now might be a good thing.

[SmiffyPie]

hahahahaha Good old Notts.

[upthemaggies]

0-2

With all of the other results going for us, this is really frustrating. It's as if we're chucking away a play off position, somebody then goes and picks it up to hand it back to us and we throw it away again.

[BanjoPie]

Why did we sign Jatta?

[MapperleyMagpie]

For god sake sack him! Get Warnock in. Even Stall says this is totally embarrassing.

[Old_pie]

and now I've just turned off.

Sorry to all those who made the effort (supporters not players).

[OP67]

We're an absolute joke!!!

[upthemaggies]

Stall: I'm sorry but that's borderline embarrassing I'm afraid.... Two simple balls into the box and they've conceded two goals. loads of bodies there. Nobody putting him under pressure. Smash and grab job.

[MapperleyMagpie]

How long before someone comes in and says " we are Notts , we move on ! ""

[SmiffyPie]

Sod off Notts.

[upthemaggies]

Why did we sign Jatta?

The owners' other club Viborg needed the cash?

[Davy500]

Yes been totally negative today.

We cant have him in the dugout next season so defeats now might be a good thing.

- what is SM.s record now= one win in 10 matches?
Even me is now beginning to agree- as you all know i did not think LW was a genious- but LW would have done better than this by a way i think - 4 bloody home defeats in a row

[legs77]

Not a surprise is it.

No attacking subs just passive and this is the reward.

[OP67]

The owners' other club Viborg needed the cash?

Or we have a clueless coach!!!

[upthemaggies]

Stall baffled that Jatta hasn't come on for a game like this but "too late now"

[keldsyke]

Why did we sign Jatta?

Look at his record, he was only signed to appease supporters

[MapperleyMagpie]

If the owners do not act tonight, questions need to be asked of our owners

[legs77]

- what is SM.s record now= one win in 10 matches?
Even me is now beginning to agree- as you all know i did not think LW was a genious- but LW would have done better than this by a way i think - 4 bloody home defeats in a row

I have said it since the day LW went we will struggle to get in PO.

Anyone surely can see LW is LEVELS above this bloke he is clueless.

[OP67]

Yes been totally negative today.

We cant have him in the dugout next season so defeats now might be a good thing.

Agreed otherwise we'll be in a relegation battle for sure, he's clueless!!!

[WarsopPie]

Stall baffled that Jatta hasn't come on for a game like this but "too late now"

Seen enough came out the game early we need a goal and Jatta stays on the bench.
Maynard **** off I won’t be going again while he’s still here. Willing to give my season ticket away for free just private message me

[BCnotts18]

This is so reminiscent of the Fullarton era its frightening.

[upthemaggies]

Seen enough came out the game early we need a goal and Jatta stays on the bench.
Maynard **** off I won’t be going again while he’s still here. Willing to give my season ticket away for free just private message me

Hassel and Stall noted that the Kop was emptying.

[WarsopPie]

This is so reminiscent of the Fullarton era its frightening.

Can’t even sing are you Fullerton in disguise he’s 1000 times worse than Fullerton

[Big Bob]

The crowds will be getting lower

[MapperleyMagpie]

I'm so depressed, I just cannot see where our next points are coming from ?

[The_Pie_Man]

Dear me.

Taxi for Maynard?

[legs77]

Agreed otherwise we'll be in a relegation battle for sure, he's clueless!!!

He'll be here for the season I think as they'll say we need to give him a chance / see the data etc.

It might sound weird its not just the losses for me its our performances/gameplan there isnt one and his chopping & changing is a major flaw.

LW only had ONE plan some said but at least he had one.

[hissingdwarf]

We are so lightweight in every area, including management, it’s unbelievable.
Wimbledon haven’t been great. We’ve been sh ite. As usual.

Even in the relegation season, I can’t remember too many games where I left early. Today is another one to add to the list. Shocking. Boring. Unimaginative.

Get rid of Maynard. Admit the balls up. Bring in an experienced, hard man manager and give him the reigns. Light a fecking fire under these players.

[BCnotts18]

If the owners do not act tonight, questions need to be asked of our owners

While I understand the need to get rid of Maynard now, I really don't see the point until the end of the season. While Maynard seemingly hasn't got a clue, the players have also shown themselves to be either completely disinterested or simply not up to the required standards since LW left, and I cant see what a new manager will be able to do to change that.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

I have said it since the day LW went we will struggle to get in PO.

Anyone surely can see LW is LEVELS above this bloke he is clueless.

He did nothing to get this chance, I don't get why we went for him in the first place.

[MapperleyMagpie]

The owners surely have to be bold and act tonight!! Warnock is available and will get this shower if ****e into some sort of shape.

[legs77]

While I understand the need to get rid of Maynard now, I really don't see the point until the end of the season. While Maynard seemingly hasn't got a clue, the players have also shown themselves to be either completely disinterested or simply not up to the required standards since LW left, and I cant see what a new manager will be able to do to change that.

Is it the players though I mean if they are being asked to do different roles / tactics each week then its bound to confuse you.

The best managers keep it simple.

[upthemaggies]

He'll be here for the season I think as they'll say we need to give him a chance / see the data etc.
.

If he's still here next season, as soon as we wobble the fans will lose all confidence in him again. I very much doubt he can recover from a start as bad as this.

[legs77]

If he's still here next season, as soon as we wobble the fans will lose all confidence in him again. I very much doubt he can recover from a start as bad as this.

He cant be here as if we have a Nolan start we are bang in trouble

[MapperleyMagpie]

We need to get rid of Montague, Maynard and half this team. Huge, huge rebuild needed this close season

[upthemaggies]

Stall: This looks like a soulless bunch of players, as if they've had the heart scooped out of them.

[upthemaggies]

Radio Nottingham switches over to Stags and the first words out of Garner's mouth "Field Mill is bouncing".
Dear oh dear oh dear.

[Bohinen]

The owners surely have to be bold and act tonight!! Warnock is available and will get this shower if ****e into some sort of shape.

If the owners were bold, they wouldn't have hired Maynard in the first place. I think they're a bit scared of Warnock, tbh. Either that or his likely requirement to have more input on transfers would have put Montague's nose out of joint.

To save face, they could tell us how great Maynard will be in the long term and hire Warnock as his mentor, but that didn't work with Sergeant Wilko.

[the_anticlough]

The wrong coaches for this set of players. The wrong coaches for this club at this time. Always was really, from the moment the appointment was announced

[Davy500]

He'll be here for the season I think as they'll say we need to give him a chance / see the data etc.

It might sound weird its not just the losses for me its our performances/gameplan there isnt one and his chopping & changing is a major flaw.

LW only had ONE plan some said but at least he had one.

Exactly - at least Notts had some fight under LW - as Stal said they are souless - dont seem to have any plan or idea of what to do - then just crumbled under any sort of pressure -
I am all for giving people time - but SM is clueless - can anybody actually see how he is going to turn things around??

[Eastcoastultra1977]

This clown is absolutely killing us.

We would never take Warnock on as he doesn't play the way the owners want. They are clueless too.

[LaxtonLad]

He did nothing to get this chance, I don't get why we went for him in the first place.

No, Legs. Why we went for a novice is a puzzle to us all 🙁.

[bule1]

Warnock would not fit their playing ethos, my guess is that they will see the season as over and give Maynard the rest of this season to prove himself or at least his potential.

[legs77]

We probably should now start playing Sanderson and if Mahovo hadnt gone on loan him too.

Likes Rawlo/Brindley/Chicksen just arent good enough.

[crazyfists]

Time to go Stu I'm afraid. The players aren't sure of you and the results show it. Don't like to call for managers to go but it's a no from me I'm afraid.

[meoldlaner]

One shot on goal at home... Enough said

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Warnock would not fit their playing ethos, my guess is that they will see the season as over and give Maynard the rest of this season to prove himself or at least his potential.

But what potential? He kept Wealdstone just above relegation in a poor national league?

[hissingdwarf]

After that performance, we also need to stop with this “we have a great attack” rubbish. The confidence is shot and, to be blunt, Macca will be wishing he went at Xmas. His value will be dropping by the minute now. We look so weak!

Imagine at the end there, Maynard is coming round clapping and hugging players I assume. He should be getting them all in the fecking dressing room and giving them the final *******ing that they all deserve before he gets sacked.

[legs77]

But what potential? He kept Wealdstone just above relegation in a poor national league?

In fairness CBP that is a good effort as they are part time so i'll respect his work there.

We are a different kettle of fish though we as a club/fanbase have higher expectations.

He seems a decent guy but he just doesnt cut it here.

[bule1]

But what potential? He kept Wealdstone just above relegation in a poor national league?

They must have seen something, though I am not sure what. That said changing managers after a short time has rarely if ever worked, many on here have said that when other teams do it, not for a second am I defending him though. Can not help but believe we would be in a different place if Jason Turner were still here, think some of the blame should be levelled at that area. We used to get updates with a clear picture of where we are and what we were doing then, not anymore.

[upthemaggies]

Sounds like Bracegirdle enjoyed himself at Field Mill this afternoon.

Incredibly we're now below where Steve Thompson was at this stage of the 2006/07 season on goal difference (they held MKD to a 2-2 in game 35) and only 4 points better off than both Thordarsson was in 2005/06 and Ian Richardson (taking over from Gary Mills) in 2004/05.

This is now Trust era levels of cr@p.

[WarsopPie]

They must have seen something, though I am not sure what. That said changing managers after a short time has rarely if ever worked, many on here have said that when other teams do it, not for a second am I defending him though. Can not help but believe we would be in a different place if Jason Turner were still here, think some of the blame should be levelled at that area. We used to get updates with a clear picture of where we are and what we were doing then, not anymore.

I’ll be blunt he’s a non league manager at best should never of been appointed in the first place and if he’s not gone and paid up by midnight owners need shooting

[Chicken Balti Pie]

They must have seen something, though I am not sure what. That said changing managers after a short time has rarely if ever worked, many on here have said that when other teams do it, not for a second am I defending him though. Can not help but believe we would be in a different place if Jason Turner were still here, think some of the blame should be levelled at that area. We used to get updates with a clear picture of where we are and what we were doing then, not anymore.

They've split the role of Jason Turner. The CEO is more like a commercial director, he doesn't get involved in the football side but I can imagine he's screaming at the board knowing the attendances will be plummeting

[BCnotts18]

They must have seen something, though I am not sure what. That said changing managers after a short time has rarely if ever worked, many on here have said that when other teams do it, not for a second am I defending him though. Can not help but believe we would be in a different place if Jason Turner were still here, think some of the blame should be levelled at that area. We used to get updates with a clear picture of where we are and what we were doing then, not anymore.

I think there's a reason that most of the fans of his previous clubs despised Joe Palmer. All he's done since coming in has said how bad everything is here and how much he wants to change. I'm not liking the direction the club is going in under his, or Maynard's stewardship that's for sure.

[keldsyke]

Sounds like Bracegirdle enjoyed himself at Field Mill this afternoon.

Incredibly we're now below where Steve Thompson was at this stage of the 2006/07 season on goal difference (they held MKD to a 2-2 in game 35) and only 4 points better off than both Thordarsson was in 2005/06 and Ian Richardson (taking over from Gary Mills) in 2004/05.

This is now Trust era levels of cr@p.

Love the stat train! :-)

[Davy500]

If the owners were bold, they wouldn't have hired Maynard in the first place. I think they're a bit scared of Warnock, tbh. Either that or his likely requirement to have more input on transfers would have put Montague's nose out of joint.

To save face, they could tell us how great Maynard will be in the long term and hire Warnock as his mentor, but that didn't work with Sergeant Wilko.

Well Warnock is a Manager in the true sense - not a head coach. He takes total responsibility for signing and recruiting players etc - so i doubt he would have come to Notts. I think he has turned other clubs down in the past- saying he makes the decisions - not the board etc

[marky]

Sounds like Bracegirdle enjoyed himself at Field Mill this afternoon.

Incredibly we're now below where Steve Thompson was at this stage of the 2006/07 season on goal difference (they held MKD to a 2-2 in game 35) and only 4 points better off than both Thordarsson was in 2005/06 and Ian Richardson (taking over from Gary Mills) in 2004/05.

This is now Trust era levels of cr@p.

Those seasons were absolute crap, the football was crap, the attendances were crap, the managers were crap, the players were crap, everything was crap, I hated going to matches and well, we're back to this again.

[upthemaggies]

Three away fixtures in a row to follow. That should be fun.
Maynard still hasn't come out for the post match interview.

Managers since 2000 first 8 league games in charge table....

1. Steve Cotterill W6 D2 L0 Pts:20
2. Luke Williams W5 D3 L0 Pts:18
3. Gudjon Thordarson W4 D4 L0 Pts:16
4. Keith Curle W5 D1 L2 Pts:16
5. Paul Ince W4 D1 L3 Pts:13
6. Steve Thompson W3 D4 L1 Pts:13
7. Kevin Nolan W3 D3 L2 Pts:12
8. Chris Kiwomya W2 D5 L1 Pts:11
9. Martin Allen W3 D2 L3 Pts:11
10. John Sheridan W3 D2 L3 Pts:11
11. Harry Kewell W3 D2 L3 Pts:11
12. Gary Mills W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
13. Ian Richardson W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
14. Ian McParland W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
15. Jocky Scott W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
16. Craig Short W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
17. Jamie Fullarton W3 D0 L5 Pts:9
18. Shaun Derry W2 D2 L4 Pts:8
19. Ricardo Moniz W2 D2 L4 Pts:8
20. Mark Cooper W2 D2 L4 Pts:8
21. Ian Burchnall W2 D1 L5 Pts:7
22. Neal Ardley W1 D2 L5 Pts:5
23. Gary Brazil (2) W0 D4 L4 Pts:4
24. Stuart Maynard W1 D1 L6 Pts:4
25. Billy Dearden W1 D1 L6 Pts:4

[Chicken Balti Pie]

I think there's a reason that most of the fans of his previous clubs despised Joe Palmer. All he's done since coming in has said how bad everything is here and how much he wants to change. I'm not liking the direction the club is going in under his, or Maynard's stewardship that's for sure.

Joe Palmer has no say on the football, he's not on the board, he's basically the commercial director

[upthemaggies]

Maynard : Disappointing, we can't be anymore in control, can't question the lads desire but we've got to be able to defend those moments. I don't feel we're equipped, everybody in L2 is putting balls into the box.

Says Jatta didn't come on because we weren't getting balls in to the box.

[bule1]

But whoever took on the other role(s), their positive contirbution is?

[Davy500]

Im beginning to think SM is not the man for this job, he has got to go. If he fails to win any of the next 4 games which is generous - he got to go- what would be the benefit of keep[ing him on ?? Talent or ability is usually revealed early on - either at the current club or previous success elsewhere - SM has neither ..

[WarsopPie]

Love the stat train! :-)

No Stuart Fullerton after game interview yet hopefully he’s in the office getting his settlement cheque and P45

[legs77]

Maynard : Disappointing, we can't be anymore in control, can't question the lads desire but we've got to be able to defend those moments. I don't feel we're equipped, everybody in L2 is putting balls into the box.

Says Jatta didn't come on because we weren't getting balls in to the box.

Isn’t it his job as coach to then tell players to put it in the box ?

[WarsopPie]

Just seen on twitter he’s resigned. ****ing amen he has a conscience

[BigFatPie]

Seen many, many games at Notts down the years like today’s, particularly in relegation seasons. Plenty of effort, plenty of endeavour, but just nothing in terms of personality, tempo or quality. Create not much and then lose to a couple of pieces of piss poor defending. Old school Notts returned today, after a few years of excitement. All those new fans we had won’t come down to watch that much.

He’s got to go. Someone’s got to be brave and admit it just hasn’t, isn’t and won’t work. Didzy had a dead leg about a month ago and he’s not been seen since, has he given up?

[Davy500]

Three away fixtures in a row to follow. That should be fun.
Maynard still hasn't come out for the post match interview.

Managers since 2000 first 8 league games in charge table....

1. Steve Cotterill W6 D2 L0 Pts:20
2. Luke Williams W5 D3 L0 Pts:18
3. Gudjon Thordarson W4 D4 L0 Pts:16
4. Keith Curle W5 D1 L2 Pts:16
5. Paul Ince W4 D1 L3 Pts:13
6. Steve Thompson W3 D4 L1 Pts:13
7. Kevin Nolan W3 D3 L2 Pts:12
8. Chris Kiwomya W2 D5 L1 Pts:11
9. Martin Allen W3 D2 L3 Pts:11
10. John Sheridan W3 D2 L3 Pts:11
11. Harry Kewell W3 D2 L3 Pts:11
12. Gary Mills W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
13. Ian Richardson W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
14. Ian McParland W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
15. Jocky Scott W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
16. Craig Short W3 D1 L4 Pts:10
17. Jamie Fullarton W3 D0 L5 Pts:9
18. Shaun Derry W2 D2 L4 Pts:8
19. Ricardo Moniz W2 D2 L4 Pts:8
20. Mark Cooper W2 D2 L4 Pts:8
21. Ian Burchnall W2 D1 L5 Pts:7
22. Neal Ardley W1 D2 L5 Pts:5
23. Gary Brazil (2) W0 D4 L4 Pts:4
24. Stuart Maynard W1 D1 L6 Pts:4
25. Billy Dearden W1 D1 L6 Pts:4

Think this shows SM,s level in the hierarchy

[keldsyke]

I have to admit every time I see our defensive cockups it just takes me back to
The Ricard Duffy era

[uysapie]

That was another wasted afternoon. 1 shot ( a weak one) on target! No urgency or attempts to try a shot from outside the box. Usual failures in defending crosses and almost walking football. JJ seems to have stopped attacking the defence and wtf was Chicksen doing on the pitch?

SM cannot get a tune out of these players, he has to go. He cannot be head coach next season.

[SwalePie]

https://youtu.be/qcYN7WDYAqU?si=HXCrBHsYAr4vIUOr

[Mark_Ross]

https://youtu.be/qcYN7WDYAqU?si=HXCrBHsYAr4vIUOr

The good times really don't last long at Notts do they?

Just about survive this season, but next we will be nailed-on favourites for the drop back down again.

[marky]

https://youtu.be/qcYN7WDYAqU?si=HXCrBHsYAr4vIUOr

Nah, you're alright.

[crazyfists]

Nah, you're alright.

Yeah this is the first time for a long time I can't bring myself to listen to it.

[SwalePie]

Just seen on twitter he’s resigned. ****ing amen he has a conscience

I hope you're not mistaken. This isn't going to work out regardless of how long he's given IMHO.

[matt_magpie]

I really feel for Maynard, I thought we were decent enough today. It’s up to players to sort themselves on set plays, was Rawlinson just unlucky? The second ones more unforgivable.
I would have taken Chicksen off earlier, as they were just sat back in a back 5 for most of the game.
I did take the positive that 2 of our younger players (Robertson and Macari) were very good.

[Glad2BeAPie]

That was another wasted afternoon. 1 shot ( a weak one) on target! No urgency or attempts to try a shot from outside the box. Usual failures in defending crosses and almost walking football. JJ seems to have stopped attacking the defence and wtf was Chicksen doing on the pitch?

SM cannot get a tune out of these players, he has to go. He cannot be head coach next season.
He'll be for the full season, get used to it

[The_Don_ORiordan]

It actually reminds me of the Russell shade time. We played nice football, had decent quality in the midfield and forward line, but just kept conceding silly goals and you didn’t know when the next points would come from.

We were just too soft, that team was relegated bottom of the heap.

Nice guy, nice football, but far too early to manage us.

[Davy500]

It actually reminds me of the Russell shade time. We played nice football, had decent quality in the midfield and forward line, but just kept conceding silly goals and you didn’t know when the next points would come from.

We were just too soft, that team was relegated bottom of the heap.

Nice guy, nice football, but far too early to manage us.

Feel abit for SM - came at a difficult time. He was always going to struggle to fill the shoes of the popular and successful LW - and to do so he would have to have hit the ground running and be very good - especially after the good start had artificially upgraded many supporters views that we were promotion contenders. SM also came when form was dropping and the suspect defense was getting worse . Even so most people myself included think LW would have done much better than SM so far

Notts are a team with ambition that expect to be pushing for promotion from L2 , whether the team are capable or not - and with a manager like SM with limited experience, and the circumstances mentioned above , it was always going to be a struggle for him

It was a strange appointment with SM,s only experience keeping a small team in the bottom half or midway in the NL, which appears right now to be the wrong one

For me i doubt SM can turn this around,he doesnt have the experience or natural talent - we will probably drop lower this season, and escape relegation because of our good start. Next season the best we can hope for with SM is mid table most likely lower . I hope i am wrong - but there is nothing to suggest otherwise right now

But hey perhaps that what the brothers want - solidifying low to mid table- solidfying over several seasons- eventually pushing more to the play offs and automatic ??

[SinceSept1959]

A decent start from Notts but didn't create a goalscoring opportunity.
I predicted a 0-1 defeat at HT
Confidence ebbs away and the same frailties leave us vulnerable to defensive errors and no points on the board.
The three stand out players again were Robbo, Macari and JOB.
Plenty of crosses into Macca but isolated, no height and he's trying to feed off scraps !
Two set pieces conceded and I agree Rawlinson was unlucky .
Why do fans have scapegoats ? Chicksen did ok returning from injury.
Sorry , but Maynard and Co are not up to the task. Players continually changing position have been less effective especially Jones & Crowley and chances for Macca are at a premium.

Substitutions made too late and basically like for like changes.
It was obvious Macca needed a partner in the box and Jatta was unused ??
0-1 down at 80 minutes and we have subs "warming up " for 6 minutes and concede again after 86 minutes.
Tactics and man - management deficiencies seem apparent !

The fact that Jatta didn't get on the pitch raises questions about him and/or Maynard.
Which or both are not ready for the task ?
A good manager would have put an arm round Jatta after about 70 minuted and said go on , enjoy yourself and win me the game ?

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Feel abit for SM - came at a difficult time. He was always going to struggle to fill the shoes of the popular and successful LW - and to do so he would have to have hit the ground running and be very good - especially after the good start had artificially upgraded many supporters views that we were promotion contenders. SM also came when form was dropping and the suspect defense was getting worse . Even so most people myself included think LW would have done much better than SM so far

Notts are a team with ambition that expect to be pushing for promotion from L2 , whether the team are capable or not - and with a manager like SM with limited experience, and the circumstances mentioned above , it was always going to be a struggle for him

It was a strange appointment with SM,s only experience keeping a small team in the bottom half or midway in the NL, which appears right now to be the wrong one

For me i doubt SM can turn this around,he doesnt have the experience or natural talent - we will probably drop lower this season, and escape relegation because of our good start. Next season the best we can hope for with SM is mid table most likely lower . I hope i am wrong - but there is nothing to suggest otherwise right now

But hey perhaps that what the brothers want - solidifying low to mid table- solidfying over several seasons- eventually pushing more to the play offs and automatic ??

Well when LW left, the board said the aim was to push for automatic so something has gone incredibly wrong. My hope is that they see next years season ticket sales are going to be nowhere near what they was this season and head that off by upping the budget and getting in very good signings early doors. They will also need to ship a fair few out so that will also cost a bunch because giving people 2 year contracts was a really good idea... The move for SM will have cost a fair whack more than the initial compensation we paid wealdstone for his "services"

[Davy500]

Well when LW left, the board said the aim was to push for automatic so something has gone incredibly wrong. My hope is that they see next years season ticket sales are going to be nowhere near what they was this season and head that off by upping the budget and getting in very good signings early doors. They will also need to ship a fair few out so that will also cost a bunch because giving people 2 year contracts was a really good idea... The move for SM will have cost a fair whack more than the initial compensation we paid wealdstone for his "services"

I forgot about the compensation we paid to Wealdstone - makes it even worse - if we were paying we surely want somebody with EFL experience ?? surely there was better head coaches on the open market . It did not come out of the blue LW leaving - the Bro,s had some time to think of a decent replacement.

[Elite_Pie]

That game had 0-0 written all over it, neither side did anything worth winning it. Wimbledon created very little, but that's where the problem lies. Teams only have to be strong defensively (and Wimbledon were) to beat us. If you keep us out, it's guaranteed we will gift you a goal or two. I thought the effort was there today, but there is no longer any belief. Worrying times.

[Davy500]

Also as others have mentioned i dont think we can under estimate the loss of Jason Turner

[Davy500]

I forgot about the compensation we paid to Wealdstone - makes it even worse - if we were paying we surely want somebody with EFL experience ?? surely there was better head coaches on the open market . It did not come out of the blue LW leaving - the Bro,s had some time to think of a decent replacement.

It reminds me of what Hardy did paying compensation for Harry Kewell, even tho Hardy did it himself by sacking Nolan, where LW left and it was forced on the brothers to make a replacement

[matt_magpie]

It reminds me of what Hardy did paying compensation for Harry Kewell, even tho Hardy did it himself by sacking Nolan, where LW left and it was forced on the brothers to make a replacement

I reckon the compensation would have been pretty minimal with them being part time and dwarfed by what we got for Williams.

[Davy500]

I reckon the compensation would have been pretty minimal with them being part time and dwarfed by what we got for Williams.

Probably was not much - but it makes you wonder why they paid anything SM is poor - surely they could got something better for free

[ForeignLegion]

I hope you're not mistaken. This isn't going to work out regardless of how long he's given IMHO.


If he does stay he needs a mentor/DOF figure, a la NW. He's in a downwards spiral and I'm not sure he knows how to get out of it. I wonder what LW is thinking from afar.

[Elite_Pie]

I hope you're not mistaken. This isn't going to work out regardless of how long he's given IMHO.

Bloody hell Swale, when you post a negative comment things must be bad! I'm 85% sure you're right, but I'm not prepared to give up on Maynard just yet. On the games I've seen we've deserved more points than we got, but my big concern is that we're a shadow of the team we could be. We are lacking passion and motivation, and that's a huge part of being a successful manager. I hoped Maynard would bring that because Wealdstone always performed above their capability, but we're performing below ours. My gut feeling is that the brothers have got this wrong, but because we aren't in relegation danger I would stick with him a bit longer, although I admit it's more in hope than expectation.

[upthemaggies]

“You can ignore reality. You cannot ignore the consequences of reality.”

[Observerpie]

Maybe Maynard isn't the world's best motivator but that doesn't excuse the lacklustre displays by the players. If they're sulking because Williams has gone then they need to ask how that will work out for them, for the great majority of them the only way is down and on their current performances I can't see a long queue for them.

[matt_magpie]

Probably was not much - but it makes you wonder why they paid anything SM is poor - surely they could got something better for free

Because they believed/believe in him, I’m not giving up on him yet and the players have to take responsibility especially where it’s individual errors.

[Togtastic]

The problems sit entirely on the players shoulders. Maynard may not be the manager many people think Williams was but it was Slocombe not Maynard whose awful clearance/pass gave them a throw in for the first and the players, not Maynard's collective negligence for the second.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

I really feel for Maynard, I thought we were decent enough today. It’s up to players to sort themselves on set plays, was Rawlinson just unlucky? The second ones more unforgivable.
I would have taken Chicksen off earlier, as they were just sat back in a back 5 for most of the game.
I did take the positive that 2 of our younger players (Robertson and Macari) were very good.

Is Stuart Maynard unlucky I ask myself? Mansfield and Wrexham away now AFC Wimbledon at home. All games where we deserved more but got nothing. Then the Newport and Barrow games a good four points based on the oppositions form.

There were those games that were horror shows or littered with individual errors such as Sutton, Crewe and Gillingham.

For me playoffs are gone now. We've got 7 points from the last ten games and have been stuck in the 40-49 point bracket since we beat Morecombe 5-0 on boxing day. The last eleven games are now a test to see if SM can turn it around. If we can get 15 points and finish around 60-65 points that will be an upturn and should see a top half finish.

It really has been the worst possible start to 2024 we could have imagined but I'm not giving up on SM yet. I want to see how he does against teams that LW beat as there has only been one game Gillingham so far that LW got a better result.

[BigFatPie]

Is Stuart Maynard unlucky I ask myself? Mansfield and Wrexham away now AFC Wimbledon at home. All games where we deserved more but got nothing. Then the Newport and Barrow games a good four points based on the oppositions form.

There were those games that were horror shows or littered with individual errors such as Sutton, Crewe and Gillingham.

For me playoffs are gone now. We've got 7 points from the last ten games and have been stuck in the 40-49 point bracket since we beat Morecombe 5-0 on boxing day. The last eleven games are now a test to see if SM can turn it around. If we can get 15 points and finish around 60-65 points that will be an upturn and should see a top half finish.

It really has been the worst possible start to 2024 we could have imagined but I'm not giving up on SM yet. I want to see how he does against teams that LW beat as there has only been one game Gillingham so far that LW got a better result.

Gotta say your thing about comparing Maynard’s and Williams results against the same teams is a bit odd. We play Crawley on Tuesday I don’t see any relevance to anything as to how we did against them the best part of 3 months ago. Even less so against Accy who we played 6 months ago.

I think you’re better off looking at the evidence of your own eyes at matches now.

[maddogslater]

5 home games, 1 point, just SIX goals scored, TWELVE conceded, says his little tweaks have been a disaster.

[jackal2]

My impression today was that the players individually were trying much harder to do the right things defensively and put in more meaningful challenges, and for much of the game it worked, but ultimately it was ruined by Rawlinson's rather ridiculous own goal from a 'long-throw threat' we knew all about.

I thought Aaron Nemane in particular showed more appetite to track and tackle back than I've ever seen from him before, that the defensive midfield pairing of O'Brien and Robertson continued to look effective, and that Cameron and Baldwin generally did better than they have recently, except for one really poor piece of defending in the second half where they were two on one with a Wimbledon forward and almost let him beat them both, until a last-ditch cynical foul that got Cameron booked.

I thought Macauley Langstaff chose a really bad day not to wear his shooting boots. To my mind he missed at least three great scoring opportunities while we were still at 0-0, when we were desperate for a goal to reinforce what had been mostly a solid performance for the first 75 minutes. I think if we had gone 1-0 up then the confidence boost would probably have seen us go on to win the game, but the longer it went at 0-0, and especially after O'Brien ran out of steam and Baldwin went off, we looked increasingly vulnerable.

My biggest criticism today would be the formation, where we deployed a number of players in positions that are not their best, and consequently diminished some of our attacking potential.

When I heard the team I thought it was certain to a 4-2-3-1 formation with Macari and Chicksen as orthodox fullbacks, Crowley in the number 10 role behind Langstaff, and Nemane and Jones attacking from wide right and left. I think this would have been a balanced set-up in view of the selected personnel:

----------------Slocombe

Macari-----Baldwin-----Cameron---Chicksen

-----------O'Brien------Robertson

Nemane----------Crowley-----------Jones

------------------Langstaff


Instead, we had Chicksen returning as a wing-back, despite the fact he is as uncomfortable from an attacking viewpoint in that position as Jodi Jones is from a defensive viewpoint, while Jones himself was forced mostly in-field, stifling 50% of his attacking ability to go past people and leaving him looking frankly rather ordinary, which he isn't.

What is this obsession with continuing with a wing-back system that simply isn't working as well at this level as it did in the weaker National League, with players who can only do half of the job a wing-back is required to do? Are the coaching staff overthinking things and not seeing the obvious? I hope it changes at Crawley on Tuesday and we can go back to what worked beautifully at Newport.

[Woodypie]

Is Stuart Maynard unlucky I ask myself? Mansfield and Wrexham away now AFC Wimbledon at home. All games where we deserved more but got nothing. Then the Newport and Barrow games a good four points based on the oppositions form.

There were those games that were horror shows or littered with individual errors such as Sutton, Crewe and Gillingham.

For me playoffs are gone now. We've got 7 points from the last ten games and have been stuck in the 40-49 point bracket since we beat Morecombe 5-0 on boxing day. The last eleven games are now a test to see if SM can turn it around. If we can get 15 points and finish around 60-65 points that will be an upturn and should see a top half finish.

It really has been the worst possible start to 2024 we could have imagined but I'm not giving up on SM yet. I want to see how he does against teams that LW beat as there has only been one game Gillingham so far that LW got a better result. Or, Maynard's ****e and an embarrassing appointment.

[Shropshire_Pie]

Losing Baldwin to injury yesterday was huge in terms of both the game and the chance of Maynard turning this around.

He was our only player properly defending the Wombles high balls into the box and as soon as he was gone they scored from the next high ball in. Yes he makes mistakes but he's hugely important with his pace and ability.

If he's out for the next game or longer I can only see the goals against column growing and the goals for and points staying the same.

This could be a taste of what we are gonna get next season as I can't see him signing a new contract at the end of the season with the current regime.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Losing Baldwin to injury yesterday was huge in terms of both the game and the chance of Maynard turning this around.

He was our only player properly defending the Wombles high balls into the box and as soon as he was gone they scored from the next high ball in. Yes he makes mistakes but he's hugely important with his pace and ability.

If he's out for the next game or longer I can only see the goals against column growing and the goals for and points staying the same.

This could be a taste of what we are gonna get next season as I can't see him signing a new contract at the end of the season with the current regime.

When Baldwin is your best defender, you have to worry

[marky]

Don't see much point in having a match thread from now until May as there's zilch to play for, it seems unreal that our season is over already.

[BanjoPie]

🥱🥱🥱🥱

[matt_magpie]

https://x.com/thischarmingdon/status/1766506154740371836?s=46

This is a horror show, can anyone explain why Nemane is marking their centre back? And then Slocombes looking the other way? I just don’t get why as something as basic as putting someone actually not small on their centre back is allowed to happen????

[BigFatPie]

https://x.com/thischarmingdon/status/1766506154740371836?s=46

This is a horror show, can anyone explain why Nemane is marking their centre back? And then Slocombes looking the other way? I just don’t get why as something as basic as putting someone actually not small on their centre back is allowed to happen????

Meanwhile we’re putting countless high balls into the box for shortarse Langstaff to compete for against 6ft a lot defenders.

[OP67]

https://x.com/thischarmingdon/status/1766506154740371836?s=46

This is a horror show, can anyone explain why Nemane is marking their centre back? And then Slocombes looking the other way? I just don’t get why as something as basic as putting someone actually not small on their centre back is allowed to happen????

It's not the first time that has happned either!! Oppostion managers know it's a massive weak spot and have exploited it. Why hasn't SM noticed this? Nemane would be better of on the half way line pulling 2 of their defenders (maybe theone that scored) out of the penalty area. It's utter madness that we continue doing this! It was noted that we had very little height in the team without Didzy and Bostock as well.

[matt_magpie]

It's not the first time that has happned either!! Oppostion managers know it's a massive weak spot and have exploited it. Why hasn't SM noticed this? Nemane would be better of on the half way line pulling 2 of their defenders (maybe theone that scored) out of the penalty area. It's utter madness that we continue doing this! It was noted that we had very little height in the team without Didzy and Bostock as well.

Exactly, it’s total madness.

[durhampie]

https://x.com/thischarmingdon/status/1766506154740371836?s=46

This is a horror show, can anyone explain why Nemane is marking their centre back? And then Slocombes looking the other way? I just don’t get why as something as basic as putting someone actually not small on their centre back is allowed to happen????

Williams did the same as well, and we still havent learnt...

[magpiekev]

We needed a Pep or a Klopp, we ended up with Plop

[maddogslater]

Brilliant Kevin 😆😆

[1955pie]

We need to get rid of Montague, Maynard and half this team. Huge, huge rebuild needed this close season

Very much agree but in reverse order and perhaps not all at the same time.

[SinceSept1959]

The defending positions at set pieces is unbelievable these days and not just at Notts.
As several have pointed out its absolutely ridiculous to expect Nemane to compete for headers with taller opponents or for that matter be a physically effective blocker .
I think the old style man for man marking was more effective with CF's traditionally marking opposing CH's. It's OK showing players diagrams when making substitutions but is any prior planning reinforced before kick off ?
I'm also of the opinion that having the GK and all ten outfield players to defend corners and free kicks is also a disadvantage.
Put three players up on thr half way line and the opposition have to bring 4 back to mark them. This in turn gives your GK more space to claim any cross into the box and an opportunity for a quick break ?

[Magpie1984]

At start of season I would've accepted 15th in table but just been such an anti climax given the start. I’m not losing hope though, should've buried Wimbledon before 80 mins