I'm not watching but I have seen team sheet - how ****e do we look :|
I know we have players away still but 6 of that 11 couldn't get into our first team, or squad last season.
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I'm not watching but I have seen team sheet - how ****e do we look :|
I know we have players away still but 6 of that 11 couldn't get into our first team, or squad last season.
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Colback....absolutely sums up the way this club is run.
I cannot understand how anyone can pay to go and watch a team like that and, even-though I know our first team is a bit better than this, people who go are being ripped off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippity
Ha ha ha. Result to match the team.
Fkn comical, and its just the start.
I want Ashley out as much as anyone but it's as if some want the team to fail to prove a point.
I NEVER will hope for my team to lose no matter what the cause.
Wanting Ashley out is a good thing but if we are not careful more of our best players will want to leave,so we could have a worse team and still be stuck with Ashley.
I don't hope for the players to fail, or even Bruce, but if going down means we have a better chance of getting rid of MA, then I'm hoping for that. If he stays, we barely even have a football club.Quote:
Originally Posted by sherwoodmag
I’m trying hard not to care that we were taken apart yesterday and will try hard to distance myself from games this season.
It is harder not to go and not to support than go to support the shell of a club that we now are.
Speechless.
Getting rid of Ashley, for who?Quote:
Originally Posted by HughieG
Have you ever wondered just what getting rid of Ashley means?
You support Newcastle United and are a fan of Newcastle United, generally for better or worse and for richer or poorer...in sickness and in health, till death do you part.
It's called unconditional support and I see a lot of fans attaching conditions to their support, who likely haven't ever really done that, even though way worse times.
I think a lot of it is due to being carried along by a tide of hatred for one man and a dislike for anyone that dares to say anything good about him, coupled with a reliance on messiah's.
This is how I see it.
If some other potential owner doesn't ride in then you have Ashley as your club's owner. You absolutely do not need to even mention his name or think of him as the owner if you don't want to. You can merely support the club and be the fan of the club that you've always been.
It's pointless refusing to support the club because if everyone did that, you lose the club, not just Ashley.
If you think any Tom, Dirk or Harry can simply jump in and give you your fix of what you seem to expect, then you're going to be cheesed off, In my opinion.
Wishing failure of a manager by wishing on the club to go down in a belief that it'll get rid of the owner, is naive in the extreme, as far as I can see.
Ashley would simply downgrade to even things up to keep the club viable, even in a lower league. He wouldn't lose out and could quite happily run this club in a lower league...even league two and still have a decent fan base and decent stadium of fans that would very quickly adapt.
Take a look at the other big clubs. Their fans stick by them and some of those big clubs have went down the entire leagues and then clawed their way back up, only to go down again, then fight to get back up.
So...if you think this is bad then take a bit of time on your own, without anyone to nudge you in any direction and try and imagine being a supporter and fan of all the other clubs that were around us or below us, all the way to the non league and in that pack, look at all the clubs that have so called potential.
Leeds is a classic. Look at the absolute mental turmoil that club's been in with owners galore and an owner under investigation, etc.
Anyone that wants this club to fail to prove some kind of point or to rid it of an owner that actually has it running without begging, all because the owner is a tough nut who won't just bow down to fans or messiah's backed by fans, should...in my honest opinion, do themselves a favour and see that the people whose lives are being blighted are those that are thinking this and boycotting or spewing hate.
Some people saying they've never been or supported the club for 12 years is all well and good to say but, if Ashley ran the club for 20/30/40 or 50 years and the same applied, then the reality is, you might as well save yourself the turmoil of associating yourself with the club so you can have a better life without cutting off your own nose to spite your own face just so you can have your day with an owner who you rarely see.
And yet each and every time there's a squad of players doing the business on the pitch, whether it's good bad or indifferent.
As it stands, this club sits like another 19 as premier league competitors.