Harry Kane

Commentator said last night he is one of the all time greats..

for me Kane will never be an all time great the same as Shearer won't for one simple thing.. Trophies..

I saw a list last week and it was the top 100 players in the world ever, no Shearer or Kane making the list..

I think Kane should have left Spurs years ago when he had the chance, he showed loyalty like Shearer did but then left to chase a trophy.. the reason we hold Shearer in such high regard is his loyalty..... if he had left for another club at 29 would we still have the same respect for him.. I know Spurs don't for Kane..

No trophies, huh?

He happened to win the Millwall Young Player of the Year: 2011–12

A true legend!

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Originally Posted by Tutfoster1892

Commentator said last night he is one of the all time greats..

for me Kane will never be an all time great the same as Shearer won't for one simple thing.. Trophies..

I saw a list last week and it was the top 100 players in the world ever, no Shearer or Kane making the list..

I think Kane should have left Spurs years ago when he had the chance, he showed loyalty like Shearer did but then left to chase a trophy.. the reason we hold Shearer in such high regard is his loyalty..... if he had left for another club at 29 would we still have the same respect for him.. I know Spurs don't for Kane..

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Utter rubbish. There are 11 players on a team needed to win a trophy, not one.

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Originally Posted by toptoon

Utter rubbish. There are 11 players on a team needed to win a trophy, not one.

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Correct, it's surely what the player himself is and not his clubs haul of trophies.

Very few of you will remember or even know of the fantastic Johnny Haynes of Fulham, former England captain and rated by a lot of the world's experts as one of the finest footballers to grace a football pitch.

He played over 500 games for Fulham in 18 seasons. I may be wrong but I don't think he won a football trophy of any sort.

He was known though for being a leading light and instrumental in the breaking of the maximum wage imposed on pro footballers of £10 per week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Haynes

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Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie

Correct, it's surely what the player himself is and not his clubs haul of trophies.

Very few of you will remember or even know of the fantastic Johnny Haynes of Fulham, former England captain and rated by a lot of the world's experts as one of the finest footballers to grace a football pitch.

He played over 500 games for Fulham in 18 seasons. I may be wrong but I don't think he won a football trophy of any sort.

He was known though for being a leading light and instrumental in the breaking of the maximum wage imposed on pro footballers of £10 per week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Haynes

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The man scores lots of goals against whipping boys. Never scores in big matches nor against top class teams/nations.

He's not a great goal scorer, the record he holds for England is padded by all the additional matches played today.

Greaves, Charlton, Linaker, even Rooney can be considered great strikers for England.

Kane is a dude.

Never rated the guy. Apart from Arsenal (14) he's not scored double figures goals against any of the 'Top 4' in 11 seasons.

Also scoring 1 goal in a 1-0 win away at Anfield is a far more valuable goal than scoring 4 at home against Leicester or 3 against Stoke, Burnley, Hull or Southampton.

However, history will remember the totals and the trophies.

I guess the same comments could be leveled at Shearer, A side from his Premier League title with Blackburn, his career could have been far more successful.

I think Tut's got a point here. For me personally it doesn't really make a difference, I don't usually remember players for what they did and didn't win, BUT I think to be considered an all-time great, you will need to have won something. Not everything every year and every season, but you will need to have achieved the greatness that winning a major trophy is. Shearer did.

I find it hilarious that Kane went to Bayern solely for a dead-on trophy, to finally win something, and won f*ck all.

I thought Tottenham had won one of the cups a few years back

Trophies are one measure but, for me, Shearer's a legend regardless.

Kane, I couldn't care less about.

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Originally Posted by Zippity

Trophies are one measure but, for me, Shearer's a legend regardless.

Kane, I couldn't care less about.

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The perfect adage for this situation, and you would think it had been developed for this thread. >;)

Kane isn't fit to lace Shearers football boots. As far as strikers go both Shearer, Greaves along with Milburn are the legends of all strikers, followed closely by Rooney.

If youre going to judge a player on individual skills and statistics, do that.

However, to be a goat candidate you will need to win trophies.

Trophies isnt a parameter in my book really. Its nice and its certainly not a draw back.

Many great players havent won anything, and lots of mediocre players have won several trophies.