He?s now writing for the wonderful Sun on Sunday news paper.
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He?s now writing for the wonderful Sun on Sunday news paper.
How long before he's on page 3?
Been plenty of T**S on there over the years
Seen lots of Starmer or Labour bashing going on here and around the net and it?s all so childishly pathetic. We had 14 years of the Tories. Five different Tory prime ministers, each and every one of which proved themselves to be various degrees of dishonest, incompetent, self serving d1ck4eads.
So I say, if everything written about Starmer and Labour is actually true, so what? Really, so fffing what? It can only be ?as bad? at worst. And there may be a very slim chance that a different approach may bring an improvement. No, I don?t hold much hope, but it is certain that the Tories aren?t fixing anything except their own bank balances.
So that makes him right because what the Tories did, it?s like saying don?t sack S/E because who can we get better.Keep backing them without calling them out then & see how far we get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaufighter
I read today that Elon Musk is about to give Nigel Farage megamillions to turn Reform into a party of government. Then all our troubles will be over. :rolleyes:
Honest appraisal .
The Labour government have one hell of a job cleaning the mess of the last 14 years up and then some .
I read a lot of content from all political angles , simply reading things I agree with doesn't tend to expand my mind which is something I did for way too many years .
The consensus I find is that enough of the electorate understand what a difficult job the Labour Party have and if there was another election next week I think you'll find Labour would win with another large majority .
The criticism I have is that the messaging is poor and I'm far from convinced they have a solid plan or vision that will work and improve all of our lives , that's probably why the messaging is poor perhaps .
Mistakes will be made there's no doubt about it until such times something they roll out something that works , I think they are in a process of elimination type scenario and anybody including themselves looking for easy quick fixes are going to be disappointed .
It may well be that things get worse before they get better but that may well turn out to be the right outcome rather than sticking plasters on huge wounds or kicking cans further down the road which in my opinion has led us to the position we find ourselves in .
The good news if you are a Labour voter or simply don't wish to see the Tories back in government anytime soon is that there's nobody capable of winning a GE with a majority other than Labour .
The Tories are well and truly trashed , they were trashed before between 1997 and 2010 only this time It's much worse .
Whilst Farage believes he's manufacturing himself in to position A politically he's actually the biggest gift to Labour they've probably enjoyed in their entire political history .
Farage splits the Tory vote so well that neither is own party or the Tories will see power , he's never getting the died in the wool shire Tory vote and millions of these voters won't vote for anybody else and without that vote going to Reform Labour will win elections all day long .
The Tories without the Reform vote look short of government to me so the country may as well strap itself in and see where we are in four years time .
What a sad take on things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaufighter
Tories lied so Labour can so what.
They all fix their own bank balances not just Tories
Very strange take and low principles if any imo.
Lies and corruption are wrong whichever way you try to justify it.
I thought I?d never agree Thatcher but on some things I now do.
I have only ever voted Labour but now I wouldn?t.
I think Starmer is more of a puppet for the elite. The policies are going to cripple Britain especially now he has joined forces with Blackrock and Bill Gates. They should not have direct access to a leader of a democratic country.
I hate the fact that the son of a tool maker, can identify himself as working class is ridiculous. I hate that he was in charge of the justice system and let p?dos like saville get away with what they did.
I hate that he is the prime minister of Great Britain.
He is a ****!
I detested Thatcher and the damage she inflicted.
Starmer has surpassed her in quick time- lied thru his teeth to get in , zero personality or appeal, with a team of arrogant people beside him.
How may more times will I hear about this black hole !!😡
The only Labour Party that's got a chance of getting elected to government looks like this one frog .Quote:
Originally Posted by frogmiller
The country had an opportunity in 2017 and 2019 to vote for a Labour party that looked completely different and they rejected it .
The days of voters having a wish list that's covered by any of the major party's are long gone and we are down to voting for the least worse option .
Labour were deemed to be the least worse option by the electorate because there's wasn't much love that I saw for them , you felt in 1997 that the country actually voted for Blair with some enthusiasm , Starmer had none or very little .