Why pboro needs to go

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Originally Posted by toonlegend

I'm really not sure if i've read that correctly. "any tit for tat arguing can be split off to off topic."

it isn't possible to just move certain posts from a thread onto a different sub forum - it would have to be the whole thread = which would obviously include the football side of it as well, or none of it

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if you moved the whole thread you would likely end up with nothing on the footy forum. unless you just barred certain people from posting on the footy side haha that sounds like a plan!

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Originally Posted by toonlegend

I'm really not sure if i've read that correctly. "any tit for tat arguing can be split off to off topic."

it isn't possible to just move certain posts from a thread onto a different sub forum - it would have to be the whole thread = which would obviously include the football side of it as well, or none of it

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Generally you can split topics.
I don't know if this set up would allow that.

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Originally Posted by ghostrider

Generally you can split topics.
I don't know if this set up would allow that.

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You couldn't take certainly posts out of a thread though.

So if we started a thread - Who wants Ben Arfa back? and then it turned into talking about holidays in France for example we wouldn't be able to split the two topics. It would be either move whole thread and lose football, or leave thread and have it all same as before.

Unless i've misunderstood what you're saying?

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Originally Posted by Southerntoon75

True but it's the same crap, I hate Rafa, our players are ****e. I hate Rafa, our players ****e. That debate has been had hundreds of times with him on this board. You can't spout the same thing over and over again and claim that to be debating

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he can and does spout the same thing over and over. i'm sure he has a list of phrases saved and he just copies and pastes at will

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Originally Posted by toonlegend

I e mailed the person who set up the extra toon news forum for the footymad posts. I haven't heard anything back. I suppose its possible that he was just involved in the initial setting up and ironing out problems that occurred in the 1st few weeks/months.

I'll see if i can send another message to the overall footymad people themselves and see if anything comes of that. from what i could gather previously. kev who runs NUFC page can't open up a sub forum himself.

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if your talking GP he,s the man , the one who started FM from the first fan site ( liverpool) and believe he,s still at the top

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Originally Posted by ronandtet

if your talking GP he,s the man , the one who started FM from the first fan site ( liverpool) and believe he,s still at the top

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yes those are his initials

I actually wrote to whoever is at the helm adding to what has been asked for.
I simply put a case forward and asked for a reply to it.
Naturally I'm just one poster but if man y do a similar thing on top of the mods doing it, then maybe they will do something.
There's a few other forums on here that have sub forums, so there shouldn't really be any issue, assuming those at the top answer queries.

Not sure how an off topic board would solve the issues people are having, to be fair. The problem is that legitimately on topic threads constantly devolve into name calling and one upsmanship, so unless you have a special subforum dedicated to pboro and expat and the mods are prepared to constantly split their posts off into new threads on the other forum then I'm not sure it's going to change anything ;)

Setting the 'ignore' option on other posters will presumably only hide their input, but still show all the reaction to their input, which would just be odd - and doesn't solve the issue of new users being put off by the board being dominated by certain personalities.

Ultimately the only adult solution to all this is for those two posters to call a truce and try to stop turning threads into personal vendettas. To encourage this, maybe a zero tolerance policy for ad hominem attacks needs to be enforced by the mods - i.e. simply start deleting all posts that contain a non-banter personal attack on someone.

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Originally Posted by Nephy

Not sure how an off topic board would solve the issues people are having, to be fair. The problem is that legitimately on topic threads constantly devolve into name calling and one upsmanship, so unless you have a special subforum dedicated to pboro and expat and the mods are prepared to constantly split their posts off into new threads on the other forum then I'm not sure it's going to change anything ;)

Setting the 'ignore' option on other posters will presumably only hide their input, but still show all the reaction to their input, which would just be odd - and doesn't solve the issue of new users being put off by the board being dominated by certain personalities.

Ultimately the only adult solution to all this is for those two posters to call a truce and try to stop turning threads into personal vendettas. To encourage this, maybe a zero tolerance policy for ad hominem attacks needs to be enforced by the mods - i.e. simply start deleting all posts that contain a non-banter personal attack on someone.

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That would hurt Pboro deeply and exclude 95% of his posts. Is that not unfair?

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Originally Posted by Nephy

Not sure how an off topic board would solve the issues people are having, to be fair. The problem is that legitimately on topic threads constantly devolve into name calling and one upsmanship, so unless you have a special subforum dedicated to pboro and expat and the mods are prepared to constantly split their posts off into new threads on the other forum then I'm not sure it's going to change anything ;)

Setting the 'ignore' option on other posters will presumably only hide their input, but still show all the reaction to their input, which would just be odd - and doesn't solve the issue of new users being put off by the board being dominated by certain personalities.

Ultimately the only adult solution to all this is for those two posters to call a truce and try to stop turning threads into personal vendettas. To encourage this, maybe a zero tolerance policy for ad hominem attacks needs to be enforced by the mods - i.e. simply start deleting all posts that contain a non-banter personal attack on someone.

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Football debate is never always hand holding and ring o rind o roses stuff. There will always be people who dislike others and also people who will argue the toss in detail and in depth.

In between football matches there's always room for general chat as well.
A sub forum for this is ideal and it takes a lot of the heat from certain topics on the football side that can channel way off the mark when arguing starts.

An off topic forum does not impact the other so any person who has no intention of coming here for anything other than Newcastle or football talk can simply ignore it really easily as it sits out the way.

Asking two posters to call a truce doesn't sort the entire issues because any posters can get embroiled into a prolific on going disagreement or argument at any time.

An off topic forum solves all issues and I'd be more than willing to do the donkey work with it all if other mods need any help.