CalMac

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

As an individual tax paying resident of Scotland can you tell me one perk that I get, that the equivalent tax paying resident of England doesn't, as a direct result of The Barnett Formula? No.

We're either better off because we have extras from The Barnett Formula or we're worse off as a result of paying more tax. You use both as sticks to beat the the SNP Government and to argue against any benefits of independence so how does it work? Do I, as an individual, benefit more from The Barnett Formula or am I penalised more by paying extra tax? Or do they balance out?

Is it not better for those who can afford it to pay more whilst those who can't pay less? Oh of course you're a committed old Tory so you'll believe the rich should pay less and the less rich more won't you? My error, should never have asked. Mind the gap, it's getting bigger by the day.

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Free eye test every year if you are aged 60 and over, every second year for people aged under 60.(People in England have to pay for their eye tests).
Free bus pass for people aged 60 and over throughout Scotland. (People in England aged 60 and only receive free bus travel in their own local area) If the English rules were adopted in Scotland this would mean that people aged 60 and over living in Dundee could only use their free bus pass on the Dundee bus service not travel on public busses throughout Scotland.
Free prescriptions for everyone in Scotland. (People in England aged 60 and over receive free prescriptions. All other adults unless they have an exemption due to a medical condition have to pay for their prescription which I believe is over £9 per item). Children in England still receive free prescriptions.

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Originally Posted by grantzer

How did every country in the world that doesn't get any Barnett money survive?

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There are a lot of former colonial countries that have got in serious financial difficulties since they became independent.
This also includes former French and Belgian colonial countries.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

Free eye test every year if you are aged 60 and over, every second year for people aged under 60.(People in England have to pay for their eye tests).
Free bus pass for people aged 60 and over throughout Scotland. (People in England aged 60 and only receive free bus travel in their own local area) If the English rules were adopted in Scotland this would mean that people aged 60 and over living in Dundee could only use their free bus pass on the Dundee bus service not travel on public busses throughout Scotland.
Free prescriptions for everyone in Scotland. (People in England aged 60 and over receive free prescriptions. All other adults unless they have an exemption due to a medical condition have to pay for their prescription which I believe is over £9 per item). Children in England still receive free prescriptions.

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Very little then, and all from the Barnett Formula payment and none of it from the extra tax I pay?

I'm not 60 yet by the way but will be soon and rest assured I'll take full advantage of the very limited additional benefits I get as a result of still being a valuable, working and tax paying member of society.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

There are a lot of former colonial countries that have got in serious financial difficulties since they became independent.
This also includes former French and Belgian colonial countries.

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And how many of them got money from barnett? Do you ever answer any question?

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Originally Posted by grantzer

And how many of them got money from barnett? Do you ever answer any question?

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The Barnett Formula was introduced by Joel Barnett who was a Labour Government minister.
I do not know the name of the French and Belgian equivalent schemes that bankrolled their own colonial countries before these countries decided that they wanted to become an independent country.

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Originally Posted by grantzer

And how many of them got money from barnett? Do you ever answer any question?

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

The Barnett Formula was introduced by Joel Barnett who was a Labour Government minister.
I do not know the name of the French and Belgian equivalent schemes that bankrolled their own colonial countries before these countries decided that they wanted to become an independent country.

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You asked for that Grantzer

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

You asked for that Grantzer

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But he did answer the question and it seems very likely, to me, that there will have been some kind of funding to get these new countries started. No not think it would be anything like £41bn though.

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Originally Posted by BCram

But he did answer the question and it seems very likely, to me, that there will have been some kind of funding to get these new countries started. No not think it would be anything like £41bn though.

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Of course there has to be one off payments at the point of separation. Any country that's given money over time to a parent nation to help that parent nation fund itself has to get some compensation; otherwise it's theft. Mind you we are talking English Tories so that probably wouldn't phase them.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

Of course there has to be one off payments at the point of separation. Any country that's given money over time to a parent nation to help that parent nation fund itself has to get some compensation; otherwise it's theft. Mind you we are talking English Tories so that probably wouldn't phase them.

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What would you suggest was a reasonable dowry?

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Originally Posted by BCram

What would you suggest was a reasonable dowry?

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Economics isn't really my thing so wouldn't know where to start.