Hospitality Prices

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

The largest amounts of cash I ever saw going out of DFCSS all went direct to Dundee FC, including at one point a fairly large payment to help cover player wages and yes, that's since your messiah and DSA dictator John Nelms was on board, and at another point a fairly large payment to cover pitch maintenance.

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That?s good to know because that?s where I wanted my hard earned cash, like so many other to go,

Jaunts down south could easily have been rejected, you just send apologies, perhaps someone can tell us what was gained by them, apart from a hangover

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Originally Posted by jdfc

No one is talking about individual tops/balls that folk got with gold membership, I?m talking about the groups that were paraded on Dens each Saturday that were given the gifts,
I?m no fan of Nelms but you can?t come up with an alternative, remember he?s Keyes man and without Keyes where would we be, I do admire that he took action to save the staff at Gardyne ever having to put up with the clown, no one should have to put up with him during their day of work, and he?s told his story about Gardyne that much he believes it 100%, just a pity for him no one else believes it

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I assume that you are having another unsubstantiated pop at me without doing your homework.
The member of DFC staff who organised the tour for my wife and myself later told me that nobody in Dundee Football Club had asked her about our tour.
Nelms hates Dee4life and he used his continual hatred of Dee4life to tell a pack of lies about tour of Gardyne because I was a Dee4life Director at the time.

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Originally Posted by BP33

1 Why would DFCSS pay for something that they hadn?t received? If they have it?s gross mismanagement.
2 DFC should definitely be running DEETV.
3 What were the various packages? And you hear a lot of things, and give your opinion on a lot of things, most of them a lot of ****.
4 Spoke to a member of Downfield yesterday, who told me that you were a moaning chunt when you were a member there, and you were close to being kicked out.

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More duff information about me.
When I was a member of Downfield GC I was not frightened to ask questions at their Annual Financial meeting in November and their AGM in March.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

I remember the programme thing. He actually wanted the full cost of a hard copy, glossy programme from every DFCSS member for every game because a PDF was being uploaded to the website and available for viewing by every member. Reality was that very, very few people were accessing it and they (Nelms and Crighton) were told to beat it.

The Platinum meals thing is ringing a bell but I wasn't really involved in those discussions.

The removal of streaming rights was an absolute disgrace and he even refused to return the equipment needed for it which was the property of DFCSS. The standard of coverage fell off a cliff when the club first took it on but thankfully it's better now.

These things were done to try to get all the DFCSS funds which Nelms was adamant belonged to the club because the money came from Dundee FC supporters. His belief was, and probably still is, that any spare cash that any Dundee fan has and intends spending on football should be the club's either by the purchase of something or ideally by donation.

The John Nelms business model is essentially get as much money out of DFC fans as possible, at the lowest possible expense to him and spend the least amount to thank those same fans for their loyalty.

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Thanks for your information.
Regarding the Platinum membership they cost ?1000 per annum or 12 payments of ?100 = ?1,200.
From memory Platinum members used to get a free season ticket for the next season, a free ticket for the Player of the Year dinner, two meals with the Dundee FC players with one meal at Christmas time, a year?s entry for one line in the Dee Promotions lottery. I cannot remember if there were other benefits.
It was stated at a Dee4life board of directors meeting that Nelms was dead against the Dundee FC supporters using their own money as well as fundraising to raise the necessary funds to buy back Dens Park from John Bennett.
Nelms did not seem to realise that buying back the title deeds of Dens Park from John Bennett for ?750k would save Dundee Football Club a lot of money in the long run as the rental payments until the end of lease were going to cost over ?1,500,000.
Nelms wanted all the Dundee FC supporters to hand over all their money to Dundee Football Club.
Interestingly I do not see John Nelms putting all his own money into Dundee Football Club including purchasing the title deeds of Dens Park from John Bennett on 3rd October 2023 using his own money.
In my opinion the removal of the streaming rights by Nelms would never have happened if Bill Colvin has still been the Chairman of Dundee Football Club.
I remember reading that a Dundee FC supporter living in the Far East sponsored the DEETV streaming of home games from Dens Park when it was run by Dee4life.

Think DFCSS owning the club meant it was appropriate for them to get the revenue from DeeTV. After FPS take over they should have negotiated the sale of the media rights.
At a stroke DFCSS lost a significant income. What is Deetv earning every year for FPS?

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

I remember the programme thing. He actually wanted the full cost of a hard copy, glossy programme from every DFCSS member for every game because a PDF was being uploaded to the website and available for viewing by every member. Reality was that very, very few people were accessing it and they (Nelms and Crighton) were told to beat it.

The Platinum meals thing is ringing a bell but I wasn't really involved in those discussions.

The removal of streaming rights was an absolute disgrace and he even refused to return the equipment needed for it which was the property of DFCSS. The standard of coverage fell off a cliff when the club first took it on but thankfully it's better now.

These things were done to try to get all the DFCSS funds which Nelms was adamant belonged to the club because the money came from Dundee FC supporters. His belief was, and probably still is, that any spare cash that any Dundee fan has and intends spending on football should be the club's either by the purchase of something or ideally by donation.

The John Nelms business model is essentially get as much money out of DFC fans as possible, at the lowest possible expense to him and spend the least amount to thank those same fans for their loyalty.

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Nelms will not be happy when he sees who is sponsoring Cammy Kerr?s Queens Park home strip. https://queensparkfc.co.uk/cammy-kerr/
In my opinion I think that the management of Dundee Football Club as missing an opportunity to raise more funds through the sponsorship of the players football boots.
I have seen some professional football clubs advertise the sponsorship of their goalkeepers gloves.

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Originally Posted by BCram

Think DFCSS owning the club meant it was appropriate for them to get the revenue from DeeTV. After FPS take over they should have negotiated the sale of the media rights.
At a stroke DFCSS lost a significant income. What is Deetv earning every year for FPS?

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You will need to ask John Nelms that question. Good luck with that.
Alternatively you could ask the Dundee Football Club SLO John Burke to ask that question on your behalf.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

Nelms will not be happy when he sees who is sponsoring Cammy Kerr?s Queens Park home strip. https://queensparkfc.co.uk/cammy-kerr/

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And how do you come the conclusion he wont be happy? Because Scott Foam sponsor the shirt? Why on earth would he even care?

Your obsession with John Nelms is rather disturbing. Some would even say irrational.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

Nelms will not be happy when he sees who is sponsoring Cammy Kerr?s Queens Park home strip. https://queensparkfc.co.uk/cammy-kerr/
In my opinion I think that the management of Dundee Football Club as missing an opportunity to raise more funds through the sponsorship of the players football boots.
I have seen some professional football clubs advertise the sponsorship of their goalkeepers gloves.

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Cammy was on Off the ball on Radio Scotland a few weeks ago.

He stated that on his last day he went to see Nelmsy, and he stated that he had a great relationship with him. I’m sure you can get it on some type of catch up, if you don’t believe me.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

More duff information about me.
When I was a member of Downfield GC I was not frightened to ask questions at their Annual Financial meeting in November and their AGM in March.

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And you were nearly thrown out of the Golf Club. You are a troublemaker of the highest order..