O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

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Originally Posted by Ayeayeskipper

Curtain death for Keir?

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There are 'rumblings' within the Party over his leadership. but then again there always are 'rumblings' over one thing or another. That's just the nature of the Labour Party.

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Originally Posted by CheltenhamPie

The Labour Party’s campaign was based solely upon John Lewis and wallpaper. They had no programme to promote to the country, and have/had no policies to hang their campaign upon. Unless there are radical improvements in their manifesto, and promote M.P.‘S who have a track record, Labour will be overtaken by the Greens and become a minor player in politics.

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What sort of policies should Labour put in the next manifesto that might win over those that have switched over to the Tory/Brexit party/UKIP coalition?

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Originally Posted by BigFatPie

What sort of policies should Labour put in the next manifesto that might win over those that have switched over to the Tory/Brexit party/UKIP coalition?

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Free kittens for everyone..or was that what the last campaign was fought on.?

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Originally Posted by countygump

There are 'rumblings' within the Party over his leadership. but then again there always are 'rumblings' over one thing or another. That's just the nature of the Labour Party.

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Len McB0ll0cks ( I bet he can't wait for the restaurants to open so he can start dining out on the members again ) thinks the party should swerve further to the left again. Yeah, worked last time.

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Originally Posted by jacobncfc

It’s completely flipped voting patterns (not just Brexit but cultural stuff more generally), Labour has just been much slower to work out what to do about it. The Tories have realised it and changed their offer to be more left wing economically than they ordinarily would be, and the result is easy wins in places like Hartlepool.

Labour needs to realise that the ‘Red Wall’ is basically gone and stop focusing all its efforts into winning back places like Hartlepool. Just as all of those places were vulnerable to the Tories, there are loads of seats currently Conservative which have been trending towards Labour over the last few years. Usually younger places, suburban seats, large towns. Once Labour works out what it’s offer to places like that is (Altrincham, Wimbledon, Broxtowe - that kind of place) then you’ll have your realignment complete.

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This 'strategy' has been mentioned by people within the Labour party on the TV today, actually but there's just not enough of them to give Labour a path to power. They have to 'mend' some of the Red Wall or make some gains in Scotland to get anywhere near No 10.

I guess once furlough is over things might change then if help is blocked when the job losses kick in.

At the minute Starmer clearly paying for what Corbyn wanted you are not going to change that overnight.

The vaccine roll out has hugely helped the Tories but lets be honest he pretty much got everything wrong on that and u turned on everything...I mean all these variants getting into the UK and we wonder why !

Boris is lucky we are a rich country with great science behind us as without it he would be under pressure.

Starmer has rinsed Boris time and again at PMQ, winning each time on points but failing to deliver the knockout. It's now clear that Joe Public couldn't give a poo about what happens during PMQ. It's also clear that personal integrity is but small fry where leaders are concerned. The fact that Starmer is a more principled and gentlemanly person than Johnson counts for nothing with most voters.
However, there are so many big causes out there that Labour failed to shout about - from cladding to the scandal over PO sub-masters.
Plenty of problems about to appear in the UK economy in the months ahead. Do the people of Hartlepool honestly expect the Tories to dig deep for them? Dream on.

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Originally Posted by sidders

Starmer has rinsed Boris time and again at PMQ, winning each time on points but failing to deliver the knockout. It's now clear that Joe Public couldn't give a poo about what happens during PMQ. It's also clear that personal integrity is but small fry where leaders are concerned. The fact that Starmer is a more principled and gentlemanly person than Johnson counts for nothing with most voters.
However, there are so many big causes out there that Labour failed to shout about - from cladding to the scandal over PO sub-masters.
Plenty of problems about to appear in the UK economy in the months ahead. Do the people of Hartlepool honestly expect the Tories to dig deep for them? Dream on.

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I watch PMQs each week and I must have missed Sir Kier rinsing Mr Johnson.

It appears he totally misjudged the mood of the country and so it seems did you!

The emperor's New clothes fooled em again sidders, Hasta la Victoria siempre.

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Originally Posted by legs77

The vaccine roll out has hugely helped the Tories..

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If what's happening in Chile (as reported on C4) is anything to go by, the feel good factor over vaccines isn't going to last long. The theory that vaccinating during a pandemic makes things worse, much worse, may yet prove to be the case and what we've been through over the last year is going to feel like a picnic compared to what's coming next.