⚽ Match Thread vs. Shrewbury Town FC 01.12.23 [FAC R2]

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Originally Posted by Eastcoastultra1977

fu retard

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Keep looking in the mirror

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Originally Posted by uysapie

The only way to remove the comedy of errors at the back is change the selection but thanks to no recruitment, that means playing the younger players. We cannot keep on playing the same culprits game after game. Tonight was an absolute joke of a defence.

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I don't think it's a case of "no recruitment", but more "phased recruitment".

Self-evidently we invested heavily in attack-minded players in the summer. We took advantage of an exceptional opportunity to sign a player who wouldn't normally be found at our level in David McGoldrick, who even in taking a pay cut will still be a high earner by Notts' standards. We also signed Dan Crowley, who again won't have come cheap for wages, but who has proven to be an exceptional signing.

This investment probably came at the expense of investment in the defence, to a degree, but those are the resource limitations we face compared with, say, Wrexham, who might have more money to upgrade all parts of the team in one go.

We've got a team with plenty of attacking threat and goal-power, which has been key to making us very competitive in this league, but it probably means we'll have to wait for the January transfer window, and next summer (when certain out of contract players depart) in order for sufficient wages to be freed up to recruit the kind of quality in defence/midfield that we gained in attack last summer.

We're no different to most other League Two clubs in that respect, you have to evolve the squad gradually, in phases. You can't just write out cheques or sustain a wage budget to address all areas at once, especially when you're trying to recruit real quality.

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Originally Posted by MapperleyMagpie

I expect him to play macari and Tipton together. They cannot be worse than Backpass brindley, balls-up Baldwin, captain calamity, or rotten Rawlinson

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Mapperley Pie was you at the game ?
Did you see Tipton when he came on ?

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Originally Posted by jackal2

I don't think it's a case of "no recruitment", but more "phased recruitment".

Self-evidently we invested heavily in attack-minded players in the summer. We took advantage of an exceptional opportunity to sign a player who wouldn't normally be found at our level in David McGoldrick, who even in taking a pay cut will still be a high earner by Notts' standards. We also signed Dan Crowley, who again won't have come cheap for wages, but who has proven to be an exceptional signing.

This investment probably came at the expense of investment in the defence, to a degree, but those are the resource limitations we face compared with, say, Wrexham, who might have more money to upgrade all parts of the team in one go.

We've got a team with plenty of attacking threat and goal-power, which has been key to making us very competitive in this league, but it probably means we'll have to wait for the January transfer window, and next summer (when certain out of contract players depart) in order for sufficient wages to be freed up to recruit the kind of quality in defence/midfield that we gained in attack last summer.

We're no different to most other League Two clubs in that respect, you have to evolve the squad gradually, in phases. You can't just write out cheques or sustain a wage budget to address all areas at once, especially when you're trying to recruit real quality.

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Excellently put, my thoughts entirely.

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Originally Posted by Eastcoastultra1977

That was a complete waste of time and money,and I don't give a shiny ****e what any of you say.
Shrewsbury had scored 12 goals in 20 league games this season.
I am getting fed up to the back teeth of Williams putting out weakend teams in these cup matches.
When is he going to ****ing sort the defense out?This has been going on too long now.
We had a great chance of getting a good draw against a Prem. side and making a bit of money.
No doubt the same lame excuses will come out....tiredness,(it's the same for all teams at this level)the opposition were 'brilliant' etc.Yawn,yawn,bore,bore.
FFS Williams for once and for all get shut of your ****ing 'mates' in defence or **** off.

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I wonder if Eastcoastultra and this Russian guy are related? ;D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD1IjEoEwwo

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Originally Posted by Elite_Pie

We lost to a poor side tonight, but it was entirely self-inflicted. Playing such a weak team annoyed me, but we still had more than enough to beat them without the defensive howlers. We are used to gifting one goal a game, but THREE??? We created far more chances for them than they did, it was almost as if we didn't want to be in the next round. I'm seriously pissed off after watching that.

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A famous prolific striker once moaned about his defence letting in more than they could score, even if his team scored 4 the defence would concede 5. Very frustrating indeed with what's on offer next round.

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Originally Posted by jackal2

I don't think it's a case of "no recruitment", but more "phased recruitment".

Self-evidently we invested heavily in attack-minded players in the summer. We took advantage of an exceptional opportunity to sign a player who wouldn't normally be found at our level in David McGoldrick, who even in taking a pay cut will still be a high earner by Notts' standards. We also signed Dan Crowley, who again won't have come cheap for wages, but who has proven to be an exceptional signing.

This investment probably came at the expense of investment in the defence, to a degree, but those are the resource limitations we face compared with, say, Wrexham, who might have more money to upgrade all parts of the team in one go.

We've got a team with plenty of attacking threat and goal-power, which has been key to making us very competitive in this league, but it probably means we'll have to wait for the January transfer window, and next summer (when certain out of contract players depart) in order for sufficient wages to be freed up to recruit the kind of quality in defence/midfield that we gained in attack last summer.

We're no different to most other League Two clubs in that respect, you have to evolve the squad gradually, in phases. You can't just write out cheques or sustain a wage budget to address all areas at once, especially when you're trying to recruit real quality.

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Lots of good points raised here. I know I've said this on here before but I think it's important to keep reminding ourselves to look at the league leaders Stockport. We have scored two goals more than them, but they have conceded 16 less goals than us. They are a year in front of us as this is their second season since getting promoted. So they have had two summers and a January transfer window to build a title challenging team. We've had a summer. It's a gradual process and double promotion in the professional game is something that is not easy. It's hard, difficult and challenging.

Wrexham are only a point in front of us and have only conceded five less goals and scored the same.

Barrow have got the best defence in the league, but can only dream of the firepower we have in Langstaff, Crowley and McGoldrick. They've been at this level three seasons.

Mansfield tough to beat as they've only lost once but have drawn plenty. They've been at this level a number of years and past two seasons finished 7th & 8th.

No team at this level is perfect and at the moment we are in the top six mix with three places for automatic promotion and only a point behind 2nd place. If we are still a point behind 2nd place in March as we come to the business end I'd take that now.

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Originally Posted by jackal2

I didn't hear that at all. In fact he had plenty of positive things to say about a number of players (e.g. Sam Austin and Dan Gosling), the work of the academy and our overall set-up.

What he was unhappy about on the night - rightly so - is the loss of a game we should have won due to the unnecessary concession of sloppy goals, and I think his comment that "at the moment I'm not good enough to stop this from happening, so I need to find a solution" is a strong hint that he's thinking the same things most fans are: either personnel changes in defence, or a shift towards less kamikaze risk-taking in defensive positions.

It wasn't an "I'm unhappy at Notts" narrative at all. Indeed he's said multiple times he's happy here and that the set-up is excellent. It was a narrative along the lines of what he/we need(s) to do (defensively) to take the next step forward.

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No, nor did I hear that. He’s pi55ed off at the Dog & Duck defending; first real test for him…how to fix it.

The most annoying thing about tonight is that Shrewsbury’s anti-football won because of our calamitous defending. In the whole game, I’m not sure if they put together a single good move, yet they didn’t need to do anything decent to score three goals. Diabolical.

Sam Austin and James Sanderson (and maybe Chicksen) are the only Notts players who can proud of their efforts tonight.

I didn’t see much to get excited about in Dan Gosling, but maybe that’s because I wanted a midfielder to drive forward and be looking to make things happen (Bostock wasn’t much better apart from one great run towards the end). Nemane yet again showed he’s lost in that right-sided midfield role, while Randall has yet to show that he can beat a full back and put a decent cross in. He had one good run where with a bit of composure he could have scored, but otherwise offered nothing - and started the rot with a sloppy back pass to Baldwin, though of course couldn’t have predicted what would happen next (unless he’s seen Notts play before this season, of course).

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Originally Posted by Eastcoastultra1977

That was a complete waste of time and money,and I don't give a shiny ****e what any of you say.
Shrewsbury had scored 12 goals in 20 league games this season.
I am getting fed up to the back teeth of Williams putting out weakend teams in these cup matches.
When is he going to ****ing sort the defense out?This has been going on too long now.
We had a great chance of getting a good draw against a Prem. side and making a bit of money.
No doubt the same lame excuses will come out....tiredness,(it's the same for all teams at this level)the opposition were 'brilliant' etc.Yawn,yawn,bore,bore.
FFS Williams for once and for all get shut of your ****ing 'mates' in defence or **** off.

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Are you on some kind of medication? Or is it anger caused by your parents dressing you as a little girl when you were younger? Crikey!