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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

What is the maximum number of spectators capacity at Ice Arena at the Campy Leisure park and how many spectators were there at last night’s ice hockey.

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I’m sure you could research that.

2400 seated and an extra 300 standing on game night.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

What is the maximum number of spectators capacity at Ice Arena at the Campy Leisure park and how many spectators were there at last night’s ice hockey.

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Before you get on your high horse and start shouting objection! objection! just remember that the existing entry / egress would be available for any 'new stadium' as well as the planned additional entry / egress directly from and onto Kingsway. The proposed new Kingsway entry / egress might also be available for the ice arena patrons significantly alleviating any existing congestion.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

Before you get on your high horse and start shouting objection! objection! just remember that the existing entry / egress would be available for any 'new stadium' as well as the planned additional entry / egress directly from and onto Kingsway. The proposed new Kingsway entry / egress might also be available for the ice arena patrons significantly alleviating any existing congestion.

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As far back as 2018 Transport Scotland had changed the rules for accessing slip roads from large car parks.
If the Kingsway West Retail Park had been built in 2018 no access would have permitted from their car parks directly onto the slip road for the Crematorium roundabout. The only exit from the Kingsway West Retail Park car parks would have been directly onto Clepington Road.
That would certainly have caused tail backs into the car parks.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

As far back as 2018 Transport Scotland had changed the rules for accessing slip roads from large car parks.
If the Kingsway West Retail Park had been built in 2018 no access would have permitted from their car parks directly onto the slip road for the Crematorium roundabout. The only exit from the Kingsway West Retail Park car parks would have been directly onto Clepington Road.
That would certainly have caused tail backs into the car parks.

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I know, but the plan has never been to access the proposed car park from a slip road like at Kingsway West - it's a direct slip road off Kingsway.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

I know, but the plan has never been to access the proposed car park from a slip road like at Kingsway West - it's a direct slip road off Kingsway.

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The original plan was to exit the new stadium car parks onto the slip road for the Camperdown roundabout but that was quashed by Transport Scotland.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

The original plan was to exit the new stadium car parks onto the slip road for the Camperdown roundabout but that was quashed by Transport Scotland.

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I don't remember ever seeing that on a proposal. I do remember discussing the new stadium concept with someone involved in the initial planning who told me they couldn't design that type of access as the rules had changed since Kingsway West was built.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

Before you get on your high horse and start shouting objection! objection! just remember that the existing entry / egress would be available for any 'new stadium' as well as the planned additional entry / egress directly from and onto Kingsway. The proposed new Kingsway entry / egress might also be available for the ice arena patrons significantly alleviating any existing congestion.

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These are interesting points. I notice you say would be available and might also be available. I am not disagreeing but they seem to be possibilities for improving the traffic arrangements for all the businesses. Have these points been made in any official documents?

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Originally Posted by BCram

These are interesting points. I notice you say would be available and might also be available. I am not disagreeing but they seem to be possibilities for improving the traffic arrangements for all the businesses. Have these points been made in any official documents?

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I say 'would' and 'might' because I still believe these accesses will never be required because no stadium will ever be built.

The time to accept the 'planning submission imminent' comment by John Nelms as valid has passed IMO and I now consider that comment a total pi55 take.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

I don't remember ever seeing that on a proposal. I do remember discussing the new stadium concept with someone involved in the initial planning who told me they couldn't design that type of access as the rules had changed since Kingsway West was built.

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It was shown in the plans on display at the first Pre Application Noice meeting held in Dundee Ice Arena in September 2017.
I also saw the plans when I attended a Dee4life board of directors meeting as a non voting guest in Bob Hynd’s office in May 2018.