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Originally Posted by Ram59

I must admit that I haven't heard the one hour rule mentioned anywhere.

On the subject of driving to somewhere remote and going for a walk, I agree that it seems harmless. But I've heard senior police officers more than once say that the reasoning behind the ban on unnecessary driving is that an accident would create an extra burden for the already stretched emergency services. I can see their point.

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I’ve certainly heard it mentioned but seeing as the only places I can see it referenced are the Sun and the Express I may be wrong.

What Michael Gove has been quoted as saying is as follows...

‘People can go out for the standard length of run or walk they ordinarily would have done...but only once a day’...and, on the subject of allotments...

‘It would be sensible that people continue to go to their allotments but not for an excessive period of time’.

I don’t believe that either of those statements cause anything but confusion and I think that stopping/discouraging driving to places of beauty is necessary because if one does it others will follow.

The facts that Sheffield (closest City to the Peak District) currently has the fastest rising outbreaks of Covid-19 outside London and Derbyshire (home of the majority of the Peak District) has the highest number of cases in the ‘East Midlands’ may not be unrelated.

Aye, keep those pesky Yorkies out, put up a wall across the border

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Originally Posted by swaledale

RA whats this allotted hour? It isn't a rule, I go out and walk around 8 miles hardly see another sole, takes about 2.5 hours and if I feel like it I pop out for another hour in the evening, keeping clear of people isn't an issue.

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I imagine that people used to socially distance themselves from you even before the COVID lockdown anyway.

Also, unless you are walking along the English Channel, near Dover, you are hardly likely to see another "sole"

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

I’ve certainly heard it mentioned but seeing as the only places I can see it referenced are the Sun and the Express I may be wrong.

What Michael Gove has been quoted as saying is as follows...

‘People can go out for the standard length of run or walk they ordinarily would have done...but only once a day’...and, on the subject of allotments...

‘It would be sensible that people continue to go to their allotments but not for an excessive period of time’.

I don’t believe that either of those statements cause anything but confusion and I think that stopping/discouraging driving to places of beauty is necessary because if one does it others will follow.

The facts that Sheffield (closest City to the Peak District) currently has the fastest rising outbreaks of Covid-19 outside London and Derbyshire (home of the majority of the Peak District) has the highest number of cases in the ‘East Midlands’ may not be unrelated.

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Or it may be fake news! Drawing conclusions from statistics can be very misleading.

Thats the issue though, confused and conflicting statements from the government! There is nothing in the legislation which says one can go out once a day only or for an hour at a time. And why the length of time spent on an allotment is an issue is puzzling!

Anyway I manage at least 2 1/2 hours out this afternoon, so two other people who kept their distance and all was well. Fortunately the local Police are being sensible and using persuasion unless they meet an active refusal to comply. Having said that I am unlikely to encounter the Police where I walk so not an issue.

Don't agree RA, its not necessary to stop other doing things in case others copy, its necessary to provide clear and conistent advice and apply the law as it is, not as an individual Police Officer or Force would wish it to be.

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Originally Posted by swaledale

Or it may be fake news! Drawing conclusions from statistics can be very misleading.

Thats the issue though, confused and conflicting statements from the government! There is nothing in the legislation which says one can go out once a day only or for an hour at a time. And why the length of time spent on an allotment is an issue is puzzling!

Anyway I manage at least 2 1/2 hours out this afternoon, so two other people who kept their distance and all was well. Fortunately the local Police are being sensible and using persuasion unless they meet an active refusal to comply. Having said that I am unlikely to encounter the Police where I walk so not an issue.

Don't agree RA, its not necessary to stop other doing things in case others copy, its necessary to provide clear and conistent advice and apply the law as it is, not as an individual Police Officer or Force would wish it to be.

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Well there we are in full agreement, Swale...the issue is imo too, ‘confused and conflicting statements from the government’ and there is an absolute need for ‘clear and consistent advice’.

The latter needs to come from all sources, not just government, as there seems to be conflicting advice as regards something as basic as the benefits, or otherwise, of wearing masks.

I think my point about ‘copycat’ behaviour is illustrated by a story I heard about a family who lived opposite a very pleasant childrens’ playground. After days of lockdown and undoubted stress caused by having to keep their normally active children indoors, the parents eventually relented and took their kids across to the otherwise deserted playground.
Cue outrage...an angry neighbour stormed across the road to ask...’what the **** are you doing’?
‘But there’s no one here, what harm are we doing?’ came the reply.
‘Of course there’s no one here...that’s the whole ******* point!’ replied the outraged neighbour...at which point the penny dropped.

You, from what you’ve said, and I enjoy the relative privilege of living in a rural setting and, like you, I can leave my house and walk a circuit of varying lengths with little chance of seeing anyone else or doing any harm. If I chose to walk with my next door neighbour - which I’d prefer to walking alone - there would be virtually zero chance of me being ‘caught’ or suffering any sort of punishment, but it’s not about getting away with it...it’s about doing the right thing.

Anyway...none of it will matter much unless our completely outflanked Government and ‘leader’ get their act together on testing.

P.S. Anybody had one of our ‘leader’s’ 30,000,000 letters yet? Only cost about £23,000,000 in postage that lot. Might it have been better spent on ventilators? :?

P.S. Anybody had one of our ‘leader’s’ 30,000,000 letters yet? Only cost about £23,000,000 in postage that lot. Might it have been better spent on ventilators?


Oh I wouldn't think it was that much RA.
You must be using Mad Mels valuation formulae. XD

After all, Camerons Mein Kampf leaflet was very reasonable. ;D

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum...
07/04/2016 · The government said the leaflets had cost £458,500 to produce and £5.94m to print and deliver across the UK. An additional £2.89m had been spent on the accompanying website and "digital promotion".

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Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds

P.S. Anybody had one of our ‘leader’s’ 30,000,000 letters yet? Only cost about £23,000,000 in postage that lot. Might it have been better spent on ventilators?


Oh I wouldn't think it was that much RA.
You must be using Mad Mels valuation formulae. XD

After all, Camerons Mein Kampf leaflet was very reasonable. ;D

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum...
07/04/2016 · The government said the leaflets had cost £458,500 to produce and £5.94m to print and deliver across the UK. An additional £2.89m had been spent on the accompanying website and "digital promotion".

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This has absolutely nothing to do with Cameron or Brexit, Tricky.

I was working loosely on the cost of postage of 30,000,000 letters.

Either way...have you seen any sign of a letter which we all know was written last weekend and isn’t going to arrive until tomorrow at the earliest? Ludicrous and outdated waste of time and money from a Bumbling, Obstructive, Ridiculous, Incompetent, Sh*t imo.

Currently listening to a doctor on Sky - not your hated BBC - describing the situation as a ‘shambles’ and testing facilities in the UK as ‘unfit for purpose’ compared to elsewhere in Europe. It’s the job of Government to protect it’s people!

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

This has absolutely nothing to do with Cameron or Brexit, Tricky.

I was working loosely on the cost of postage of 30,000,000 letters.

Either way...have you seen any sign of a letter which we all know was written last weekend and isn’t going to arrive until tomorrow at the earliest? Ludicrous and outdated waste of time and money from a Bumbling, Obstructive, Ridiculous, Incompetent, Sh*t imo.

Currently listening to a doctor on Sky - not your hated BBC - describing the situation as a ‘shambles’ and testing facilities in the UK as ‘unfit for purpose’ compared to elsewhere in Europe. It’s the job of Government to protect it’s people!

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FFS it was a J.O.K.E

Personally, I don't want his letter, about as much as I wanted Camerons propaganda.

I could detract onto the BBC, who in the current climate want the tv license added to your household bills, but that's another story.

I have a question on the testing situation.
I was under the illusion, that only vulnerable people and the otherwise ill, were being tested at the moment?
How come all these "celebrities" and "important" people can say they have tested positive?
Today bloody "Dynamo" has told us to be brave as he comes out as positive?

However, I will say RA that surely you wasn't so naive as to believe that things wouldn't go tits up in some form or another?
A country can get invaded, drop one clanger after another, before it gets it's act together and wins the war.
Bit of history there for you, XD

Postman has just arrived but I cant be arsed to see if its arrived. Probably will go in the recycling bin as far as I'm concerned - but then again I am subscribed to the government email alert system, so a status report almost a week old wont be much use. There are however some people not email literate still, so it maybe has an (expensive) use.

l wonder how many languages it will be in? Given our multicultural nation, where one in 5 schoolchildren are being taught English as a second language*, I reckon it will have to be in at least 30 languages and braille. There's some bait for tricky to bite into!

*: per OFSTED latest report, before anyone challenges the stat