Neilson

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Originally Posted by duke_the_arab

Ye that's not happening.

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Agree with this, if there even was a fallout with the manager it's likely one of them would go.

Look at Ogren's statement re Neilson not coming back if he even talked to Hearts (Now this could be bluster as he knew he'd leave anyway)

Then look at United's press release when he was confirmed as the Hearts boss.

Seems that there's no real sense of hurt/loss to me.

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Originally Posted by Wullie

Seems that there's no real sense of hurt/loss to me.

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another poster of old returns, hello mate agree on all points especially the last point!

Tom English:

'Neilson not irreplaceable for United'

The change of tactic was as unexpected as it was dramatic. United fans will be angered by all of this, but not many, if any, will see Neilson as irreplaceable. It's the disruption and the concern of making a bad call on the next manager that will cause them angst rather than the loss of Neilson himself.

They don't see him as irreplaceable. There's only one person at Tannadice who holds that mantle and that is Lawrence Shankland. You wouldn't have to travel all that far into a hotbed of United fans to find folk who will tell you that the striker, and not the manager, is the reason they won the Championship at such a canter.

And the stats are compelling. Twenty-four league goals out of a club total of 52 and the decisive goal in nine games amounting to 27 points, Shankland was the difference between a title procession and a title struggle.

The fact that he scored so often for a manager who was regularly criticised by his own supporters for being too negative in his tactics is a testament to Shankland's fantastic predatory instincts. On fairly moderate service he remained a lethal weapon.

United can see a future after Neilson so long as they get the next appointment right - or Wright. The former St Johnstone manager has been mentioned widely as a possible replacement.

There's a lot of uncertainty around that for now, but one absolute truth is that had it been Shankland departing on Sunday you'd have seen an altogether different response, a mixture of tears and tantrums. Neilson's exit didn't really evoke that kind of emotion among the United supporters.

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Originally Posted by BudMill90

Tom English:

'Neilson not irreplaceable for United'

The change of tactic was as unexpected as it was dramatic. United fans will be angered by all of this, but not many, if any, will see Neilson as irreplaceable. It's the disruption and the concern of making a bad call on the next manager that will cause them angst rather than the loss of Neilson himself.

They don't see him as irreplaceable. There's only one person at Tannadice who holds that mantle and that is Lawrence Shankland. You wouldn't have to travel all that far into a hotbed of United fans to find folk who will tell you that the striker, and not the manager, is the reason they won the Championship at such a canter.

And the stats are compelling. Twenty-four league goals out of a club total of 52 and the decisive goal in nine games amounting to 27 points, Shankland was the difference between a title procession and a title struggle.

The fact that he scored so often for a manager who was regularly criticised by his own supporters for being too negative in his tactics is a testament to Shankland's fantastic predatory instincts. On fairly moderate service he remained a lethal weapon.

United can see a future after Neilson so long as they get the next appointment right - or Wright. The former St Johnstone manager has been mentioned widely as a possible replacement.

There's a lot of uncertainty around that for now, but one absolute truth is that had it been Shankland departing on Sunday you'd have seen an altogether different response, a mixture of tears and tantrums. Neilson's exit didn't really evoke that kind of emotion among the United supporters.

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Spot on as usual from Tom,the two most common things that happen with your manager is A(most likely)you sack him and owe him a shed load of cash or B a club comes in and pays you for his services.

I much prefer B especially when your manager hardly pulled up any trees last season,i was gutted when Levein left but there is very little sense of loss with Neilson going and that is the 100% truth of how i feel.

The obvious worry is sometimes its better the devil you know as any new appointment is fraught with risk unless its Pep or Klopp coming in.

Tom English is an excellent journalist - again read that and he is spot on

I think Neilson is one of these guys who is always looking for a better job, - more stature. He walked out already on Hearts for a better job with MK Dons - but was sacked there. United hired him when he was unemployed; now he can't turn down a club of Hearts stature. Will a bigger club than Hearts say Rangers tempt him? It seems loyalty is a difficult trait for Neilson.

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Originally Posted by BudMill90

Tom English:

'Neilson not irreplaceable for United'

The change of tactic was as unexpected as it was dramatic. United fans will be angered by all of this, but not many, if any, will see Neilson as irreplaceable. It's the disruption and the concern of making a bad call on the next manager that will cause them angst rather than the loss of Neilson himself.

They don't see him as irreplaceable. There's only one person at Tannadice who holds that mantle and that is Lawrence Shankland. You wouldn't have to travel all that far into a hotbed of United fans to find folk who will tell you that the striker, and not the manager, is the reason they won the Championship at such a canter.

And the stats are compelling. Twenty-four league goals out of a club total of 52 and the decisive goal in nine games amounting to 27 points, Shankland was the difference between a title procession and a title struggle.

The fact that he scored so often for a manager who was regularly criticised by his own supporters for being too negative in his tactics is a testament to Shankland's fantastic predatory instincts. On fairly moderate service he remained a lethal weapon.

United can see a future after Neilson so long as they get the next appointment right - or Wright. The former St Johnstone manager has been mentioned widely as a possible replacement.

There's a lot of uncertainty around that for now, but one absolute truth is that had it been Shankland departing on Sunday you'd have seen an altogether different response, a mixture of tears and tantrums. Neilson's exit didn't really evoke that kind of emotion among the United supporters.

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best thing i've read on the subject

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Originally Posted by Orjan11

I think Neilson is one of these guys who is always looking for a better job, - more stature. He walked out already on Hearts for a better job with MK Dons - but was sacked there. United hired him when he was unemployed; now he can't turn down a club of Hearts stature. Will a bigger club than Hearts say Rangers tempt him? It seems loyalty is a difficult trait for Neilson.

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I think Hearts is as big as it gets for him and they will sack him before his contract is up.There is no bitterness in my post that is truthfully what i think will happen.

Robbie brought stability and promotion so for that im grateful. Its laughable the irony of the situation though, reckon budgie thought this would be ultimate insult to us or something? £100k thank you and when you fail at court dont let the door bang yer fat arse or your melted face dear.

It would be funny if they got kick out the league all together though...unlikely to happen...but would be funny!