O/T Which jab have you had?

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Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson

The greatest con-trick for a long time . How progressive leftie/ liberals have become enforcers of an authoritarian state while still believing they are being radical and in opposition to it.

Genius really.

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I think authoritarianism has been the goal all along, the reason for mass immigration and multiculturalism, to create an unsettled, disordered and violent society that can only be controlled by authoritarian government.

Blair has certainly been a central figure in this.

Indeed

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Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson

The greatest con-trick for a long time . How progressive leftie/ liberals have become enforcers of an authoritarian state while still believing they are being radical and in opposition to it.

Genius really.

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You see this is why I called you a liar and hypocrite on your laughable Putin thread. You have had the jab. So too has g_f. But you encourage others not to have it simply because the pair of you are very nasty people. You make me sick.

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Originally Posted by flourbasher

No one knows what the long term effects of the vaccine are simply because a long time period isn't available.
This issue has largely been brushed over by the authorities and medical professionals who are asked to comment in the media.

Feeling unwell for 24, having a sore arm or an extreme minority getting a blood clot aren't really the concern but what about if 30% of the UK population start getting chronic renal or another organ failure in ten years time

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As I understand it, and could be completely wrong, the vaccine is not a dose of Covid like the flu jab. From what Ive heard it simulates
an attack by using eliments of the virus to produce a defence response in the body.

I listened to a programme on Spanish flu a couple of weeks back. There were many long lasting effects, much of it phychological. But no more than about 5 years, certainly nothing reported in the programme recurring 30 years later.

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Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson

Excellent point flour

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Isnt this what you're railing against.

Shouldnt you find the research first before agree with media / social media comment.

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Originally Posted by great_fire

I think authoritarianism has been the goal all along, the reason for mass immigration and multiculturalism, to create an unsettled, disordered and violent society that can only be controlled by authoritarian government.

Blair has certainly been a central figure in this.

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For what purpose?

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Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller

Isnt this what you're railing against.

Shouldnt you find the research first before agree with media / social media comment.

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I said it was a good point....meaning worthy of investigation.

I might have said I agree...if I had an opinion.

Well worth looking into though as you have done.

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Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller

As I understand it, and could be completely wrong, the vaccine is not a dose of Covid like the flu jab. From what Ive heard it simulates
an attack by using eliments of the virus to produce a defence response in the body.

I listened to a programme on Spanish flu a couple of weeks back. There were many long lasting effects, much of it phychological. But no more than about 5 years, certainly nothing reported in the programme recurring 30 years later.

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Different solutions to a different problem in a different era though.
I don't think anyone knows whether there are any long term side effects and the authorities are putting pressure on everyone to have it because the alternative would be unacceptable and catastrophic.
I can see their point and it's a balancing judgement call whereby people have to consider the benefits and risks and then make a decision for themselves

The only problem I have with all this is that when learned people are asked about the long term side effects they aren't actually being honest and respond in an evasive way that suggests it's completely safe. In reality they don't actually know

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Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson

I said it was a good point....meaning worthy of investigation.

I might have said I agree...if I had an opinion.

Well worth looking into though as you have done.

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Dont disagree with this. Well worth some
people on this message board looking into it.

I hope you dont mean the science teams that develop these vaccines have neglected this part of the research. I dint think they have.

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Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller

Dont disagree with this. Well worth some
people on this message board looking into it.

I hope you dont mean the science teams that develop these vaccines have neglected this part of the research. I dint think they have.

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I think you are more up on it than me wanchai but thank you for the heads up. The Spanish Flu reference is very interesting and I will look into it.

I cant remember which poster it was who was very good on medical stuff ( beside Kempo).

Think it was John 2...always good for research.