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07-03-2023, 04:57 PM
eric_sinclair

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

I'd say individual decisions play a part.

It's not difficult to be referred to a food bank, I've been offered a referral twice 🙄

There are poor people the vast majority far wealthier than they were 40 years ago

For every food bank there's more tanning salons and nail bars.

I know there are plenty food banks,food distribution for small fees.
Homeless food shelters and vans that go out to help feed the homeless and distribute shoes,clothes etc.

Nail bars and tanning shops I will need to take your word for it.
07-03-2023, 05:01 PM
Deeranged

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Holidays?, Car? House?

Cmon now, you can go to match and have a pints and a kebab for around £50.

Haven't been on holiday for about ten years.

I didn't drive in 1979 but my dad had a decent car and so did my brother, I have a decent car but I have a car allowance to pay for it otherise I'd have a banger.

Yes of course I have a house, I had to get on the market because there were no council houses. When I bought the house I'm in now I chose to keep my previous house on and to let it grow in value so I have two houses but that isn't wealth, it's investment or even speculation.

I probably could get to the match, pint and a kebab for £50 however I wouldn't get much more than that. Back in 1979 £50 was a dream amount of money to actually have at easy disposal, now it's almost a throw away amount. If I go out to the football (home game) for a day with my mates I'd need £200 and I wouldn't be getting a kebab.
07-03-2023, 05:17 PM
Deeranged

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Everything goes up and everything's going up substantially because of stupid lockdown.

Not wages though. I've been in my current job for 5 years. In that time I've had a 2% increase in my salary, meantime inflation was, and still is, rampant. I'm genuinely feeling the pinch here and have had to threaten my employer that I will look elsewhere if I don't get a substantial increase this year.

I choose to forget the 7% bonus because that goes straight into my pension.
07-03-2023, 05:26 PM
The AuldYin

It's a fallacy that Foodbanks are feeding the nation, no one on benefits is sitting in the house eating grass. A generation ago it was the rich who were fat and lazy now it's the poor.
07-03-2023, 05:32 PM
BCram

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

The same way Westminster has increased Scots wealth over the past say........... 40 years?

Sorry just picked this up. At last you get the point. How is independence going to make Scotland richer? It's not about the Barnett Formula or Westminster imo. What is going to happen to Scotland that independence will make us wealthier? Who has policies that actually have some economic credibility? What are they? I am not expecting you to say what they are, but surely it is not unreasonable to ask the SNP MSP's how they intend to help Scotland to grow wealthier. As a starter, I would cancel the Green pact and get back to investing in the resources in the North Sea. Don't spend the revenue on current consumption but set up a sovereign fund like Norway.
07-03-2023, 05:59 PM
islaydarkblue

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Originally Posted by eric_sinclair

I think I cud only vote in 87 when she was in charge you may be older.
It all depends on your circumstances I suppose.
We stayed in a multi,didna have option to buy.
I got started on Maggie's yts we the council.
Good wee break until council cuts next year cut the appreteships by more than two thirds.
Mum and dad always worked but didna have much.
Eventually saved up to work offshore as there was zero opportunities for fowk like myself.
You went into finance,I can count on one hand others I know who ended up there.
I prefer the socialist model but if we were all the same eh.

Who would you say is to blame for the unfairness of the pension system?
Genuine question as I dont know.

There was nothing to stop your parents purchasing their flat in their multi if they could have afforded it.
I know a person who purchased their flat in a multi in Glasgow and he still owns it.
The unfairness of the State Pension scheme.
That is worth a separate topic on its own.
07-03-2023, 06:06 PM
Returnofrros

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

Haven't been on holiday for about ten years.

I didn't drive in 1979 but my dad had a decent car and so did my brother, I have a decent car but I have a car allowance to pay for it otherise I'd have a banger.

Yes of course I have a house, I had to get on the market because there were no council houses. When I bought the house I'm in now I chose to keep my previous house on and to let it grow in value so I have two houses but that isn't wealth, it's investment or even speculation.

I probably could get to the match, pint and a kebab for £50 however I wouldn't get much more than that. Back in 1979 £50 was a dream amount of money to actually have at easy disposal, now it's almost a throw away amount. If I go out to the football (home game) for a day with my mates I'd need £200 and I wouldn't be getting a kebab.

£200 to go out with yer mates, lol.😄😄😄

Say £24 for the match ( but if money's tight go adult concession) so that leaves £176......say £4 per pint, cheaper pints are available. £176 >>>>>44 pints or 42 and a kebab or 40 a kebab and taxi up the rd or 38 pints and a kebab taxi up the rd and a coupon or miss the kebab taxi and coupon and £176 enough for about 8 nights in the pub.
07-03-2023, 06:08 PM
Returnofrros

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Originally Posted by The AuldYin

It's a fallacy that Foodbanks are feeding the nation, no one on benefits is sitting in the house eating grass. A generation ago it was the rich who were fat and lazy now it's the poor.

A lot of truth in that.
07-03-2023, 06:09 PM
Returnofrros

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

Haven't been on holiday for about ten years.

I didn't drive in 1979 but my dad had a decent car and so did my brother, I have a decent car but I have a car allowance to pay for it otherise I'd have a banger.

Yes of course I have a house, I had to get on the market because there were no council houses. When I bought the house I'm in now I chose to keep my previous house on and to let it grow in value so I have two houses but that isn't wealth, it's investment or even speculation.

I probably could get to the match, pint and a kebab for £50 however I wouldn't get much more than that. Back in 1979 £50 was a dream amount of money to actually have at easy disposal, now it's almost a throw away amount. If I go out to the football (home game) for a day with my mates I'd need £200 and I wouldn't be getting a kebab.

Two houses is wealth.
07-03-2023, 06:09 PM
Returnofrros

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

There was nothing to stop your parents purchasing their flat in their multi if they could have afforded it.
I know a person who purchased their flat in a multi in Glasgow and he still owns it.
The unfairness of the State Pension scheme.
That is worth a separate topic on its own.

I don't think it was allowed in Dundee, cud be wrong.

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