BOJO. The end.

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Originally Posted by 1959_60

Nice reply mon ami, but I notice that you have totally avoided answering my question.

We have all spoken to people with these views, seen them clearly on programs like Question Time, read what they say on websites etc etc.

You must be blinkered if you haven't noticed them.

My question is, why do these type of people almost universally believe in Brexit and "taking back control"?

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But I did answer your question 59, I told you that the idea that Brexiteers are what you call 'racists and Little Englanders' is a Remoaner fantasy, I suppose it must make you feel better about yourselves denigrating people who don't agree with you as racist, especially when you've lost the argument, but nevertheless a fantasy it is. If these racists are appearing on Question Time and filling websites with racist bile, then they will have been prosecuted, so how many convictions have there been so far ?

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Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier

FFS 1959_60 our very existence is now completely embedded and intrinsically interwoven in Brussels and I am extremely unhappy about that.

I was brought up in an extended family and household that had witnessed and experienced the horrors the Germans perpetrated and the French quislings turning on their own. My uncle at El Alhamein captured scores of Italian cowards and witnessed Spanish neutrals suffering under the Franco dictatorship. That my friend is less than 75 years ago and I see no signs whatsoever of these particular leopards changing their spots.

I'm not xenophobic, but I am still rather proud to be an Englishman, born in Lancashire. Phuck 'em they need us more than they need them and I will bet once we leave, the whole rotten EU edifice will start to crumble.

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Well said mon ami, one of those infrequent occasions when we are very much on the same page, and in total agreement.

And I can concur with what you said about the French turning on each other, when we were living in France I read a lot about the resistance, and our neighbours had some hair-raising stories to tell about what had happened locally. I haven't got the figures but I read, and was told many times, that more Frenchmen were killed by their countrymen, during the in-fighting after the war, than were actually killed by the Germans in the entire occupation.

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Originally Posted by sinkov

But I did answer your question 59, I told you that the idea that Brexiteers are what you call 'racists and Little Englanders' is a Remoaner fantasy, I suppose it must make you feel better about yourselves denigrating people who don't agree with you as racist, especially when you've lost the argument, but nevertheless a fantasy it is. If these racists are appearing on Question Time and filling websites with racist bile, then they will have been prosecuted, so how many convictions have there been so far ?

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What I actually said was..

"Now, I am not calling Brexiteers racists and Little Englanders.

But...

Why are there so many racists and Little Englanders in the Brexit camp, and very few in remain camp?"

And I certainly stand by that.

I am claiming (by my own obsevations) that racists and Little Englanders tend to be Brexiteers.
I am not saying that all Brexiteers, by a large margin, are racists and Little Englanders.
Do you see the difference?

I could say that "Most people from Rawtenstall are Burnley fans." (I'm not saying that by the way!)
By your logic I could be accused of saying "Most Burnley fans live in Rawtenstall"

And having a downer on foreigners due to their behaviour in WW2 is simply wrong.
Most people have thankfully moved on.
Although seeing that poster yesterday from Leave UK makes me wonder.
Even Nick Ferrari was embarrassed.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...-voted-brexit/

BT, if take my advise you will remove your post quickly.

i believe that you are an exec member of your CLP, in which case you will end up in trouble if your party members see it.

""Now, I am not calling Brexiteers racists and Little Englanders.
But...
Why are there so many racists and Little Englanders in the Brexit camp, and very few in remain camp?"
And I certainly stand by that."

Sorry 59, you've lost me, is it that BDS kicking in again ?

I have no idea how many people who voted to leave are racist, (although I admit I don't possess your remarkable powers of clairvoyance), and neither have you, I have no idea how many people who voted to remain are racist, and neither have you, but I'm quite content to let the police deal with them, whether they think we should be a self-governing nation or a vassal state in the EU.

And again I don't really know what you mean by Little Englander, perhaps you could explain ? Is it that you think there is something wrong with being English and proud of it, is that it ? if not what is it ? What is one of these Little Englanders that you Remoaners are so fixated on ?

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ttle-englander

https://bnp.org.uk/brexit-is-our-destiny/

https://www.britainfirst.org/policies

Like I say, "Now, I am not calling Brexiteers racists and Little Englanders.

But...

Why are there so many racists and Little Englanders in the Brexit camp, and very few in remain camp?"

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but......Nationalism was thought ok when Remainers campaigned with "Scotland Stronger In Europe"...was the same with Wales...but we in England were pinned back with "Britain stronger in Europe"....so the remainers were ok with fuelling the divide to suit them....but backward of them to call out Englishness when it was they that determined to shrink Britain....byt still, no fear of being labeled Little Scotlanders/Welshtirs - as for them, is seemingly all well and good - as long as your in the phook England - E.U Nationalist remain camp !

XD

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Originally Posted by 1959_60

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ttle-englander

https://bnp.org.uk/brexit-is-our-destiny/

https://www.britainfirst.org/policies

Like I say, "Now, I am not calling Brexiteers racists and Little Englanders.

But...

Why are there so many racists and Little Englanders in the Brexit camp, and very few in remain camp?"

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Why must everything come back to racism half the problems in this country are created with the terminology you are using and alluding to.

Is that really the best you can come up with

I find it infuriating when an argument - discussion just isn’t going the way people want it.

I know we’ll throw the race card in.

Maybe just maybe if people voted leave based on immigration ( which is why your calling them racist ) that they genuinely believe there is a problem with our immigration.

It’s tough to accept for Mamy I know but they are entitled to a vote regardless of views on creed colour race etc.

Look at Jeremy he’s a hamas supporter and Ira for that matter ,
hasn’t bothered labours voters though has it
Throw in a bit of anti Semitic surely that’s the same isn’t it ?

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Originally Posted by 1959_60

BT, if take my advise you will remove your post quickly.

i believe that you are an exec member of your CLP, in which case you will end up in trouble if your party members see it.

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What are you going on about?

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Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier

What are you going on about?

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This bit BT.

"I was brought up in an extended family and household that had witnessed and experienced the horrors the Germans perpetrated and the French quislings turning on their own. My uncle at El Alhamein captured scores of Italian cowards and witnessed Spanish neutrals suffering under the Franco dictatorship. That my friend is less than 75 years ago and I see no signs whatsoever of these particular leopards changing their spots."

Would you put that out on one of your leaflets or a Labour twitter account?

I would remove it mate, and this post.